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Where'd my batteries go?

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John Van Ostrand - 15 May 2008 02:16 GMT
So I killed the batteries in my dive lights earlier than I expected so
I'm considering getting rechargeables.

Are there any issues using rechargeables underwater? Will Li-ion
batteries explode? How about nmh?

Thanks,
dechucka - 15 May 2008 03:04 GMT
> So I killed the batteries in my dive lights earlier than I expected so
> I'm considering getting rechargeables.

you can't recharge them U/W

> Are there any issues using rechargeables underwater? Will Li-ion
> batteries explode? How about nmh?

no, yes and kill you see the latest DAN summery, nmh will kill your buddy as
well.

rechargeable batteries like the others run out. FFS charge them defore your
dive and if they run out just enjoy the dive
John Van Ostrand - 15 May 2008 03:40 GMT
> you can't recharge them U/W

No, but I can get a car charger for them and charge on the way to a
dive or during a SIT. I have a habit of forgetting to charge batteries
until the last minute. Dropping them in a car charger would give me a
couple of hours to charge before a dive.

> no, yes and kill you see the latest DAN summery, nmh will kill your buddy as

Kill my buddy? Is that because NiMH will explode or just because
there's less warning of final discharge?
dechucka - 15 May 2008 05:42 GMT
>> you can't recharge them U/W
>
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> Kill my buddy? Is that because NiMH will explode or just because
> there's less warning of final discharge?

no but probably because ou are a moron
Myself - 15 May 2008 17:44 GMT
In article <482bbf54$0$22135$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka@vomithotmail.com says...

> >> you can't recharge them U/W
> >
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>
> no but probably because ou are a moron

but you are the moronic pontificator, not him.
dechucka - 16 May 2008 00:05 GMT
> In article <482bbf54$0$22135$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> 01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka@vomithotmail.com says...
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>
> but you are the moronic pontificator, not him.

who are you a sock puppet for?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 16 May 2008 01:57 GMT
>> In article <482bbf54$0$22135$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
>> 01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka@vomithotmail.com says...
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>
> who are you a sock puppet for?

 This is beautiful, man. :-)

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dechucka - 16 May 2008 06:31 GMT
>>> In article <482bbf54$0$22135$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
>>> 01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka@vomithotmail.com says...
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Lee Bell - 15 May 2008 03:25 GMT
> Are there any issues using rechargeables underwater? Will Li-ion
> batteries explode? How about nmh?

Pay attention to how much they weigh.  Some rechargeable are noticeably
lighter, which will make your light more buoyant.

Lee
JRE - 15 May 2008 10:55 GMT
> So I killed the batteries in my dive lights earlier than I expected so
> I'm considering getting rechargeables.
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>
> Thanks,

All kinds of batteries work fine in a dive light underwater...just as
well as they do on the surface, in fact...just as long as the light
doesn't leak, the batteries are not pressurized or submerged.

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Foo Bahhhr - 15 May 2008 12:46 GMT
> So I killed the batteries in my dive lights earlier than I expected so
> I'm considering getting rechargeables.
>
> Are there any issues using rechargeables underwater? Will Li-ion
> batteries explode? How about nmh?

  Shortcircuiting either type might cause a fire or explosion.  There
are also other considerations, eg. NiMH are self-discharging at a rate
of about 2% per day IIRC, their nominal voltage is also 1.2V as opposed
to normal batteries which are about 1.5V.  Discharging them beyond a
certain point (about 0.95V/cell) is likely to cause permanent damage to
the cells, etc.  LiIon on the other hand need special charging circutry,
are a bit more volatile, and typically come in 3.0V or 3.6V cells, which
ofcourse isin't very comfortable for lights designed for 1.2V cells.

  Using NiMH/LiIon you will also need to consider discharge rates.
NiMH cells are usually rated for 0.2-0.5C discharge (unless you get
special high-discharge-rate cells).  LiIon should have some current
limiter installed in case of bulb shortcircuit.

  /m
 
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