Gang 'crisis' to blame for tot's shooting: chief
23-month-old girl in critical condition after drive-by shooting
Last Updated: Monday, April 14, 2008 | 5:29 PM MT Comments5Recommend7CBC
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Local gangs are to blame for a drive-by shooting Sunday that left a
23-month-old girl in critical condition, the chief of the Samson First
Nation said Monday.
Marvin Yellowbird said gang violence has reached a crisis level in the
Hobbema area, about 100 kilometres south of Edmonton, which is home to a
number of First Nation groups.
Asia Saddleback was critically wounded in a drive-by shooting Sunday while
she ate supper in this house on the Samson First Nation.
(James Hees/CBC) Yellowbird has called a special meeting of the tribal
administration to discuss how to deal with the problem.
Asia Saddleback was eating supper with her family when a bullet came through
the wall of her home and struck her just below the stomach, her aunt,
Charmaine Saddleback, told CBC News Monday.
She was airlifted to an Edmonton hospital, where she underwent surgery early
Monday morning. She was reported in critical but stable condition Monday
afternoon.
Saddleback also believes gangs and drugs are behind the shooting and said
authorities need to do something to stop it.
Two male suspects, aged 18 and 19, are in custody but no charges have been
laid, said Cpl. Darrel Bruno, with the Hobbema RCMP.
Bruno wouldn't say whether gangs were responsible for the latest incident,
but he did say this is the 12th shooting in the area in the last three
weeks.

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Handmade ammunition legal in Canada
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 9:58 AM ET Comments16Recommend8CBC
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Buying ammunition in Canada requires a firearms licence, but some people
make their own ammunition, and gun and gang experts say that has led to a
black market in the sale of bullets.
"It would be nice if people had to have a licence to buy the components;
currently they don't," said Deputy Chief Tony Cooper of the Ontario Firearms
Office.
If you're over 18, it's legal to buy all the components needed to make
bullets - primers, gunpowder, casings and bullet tips. For about $100, a
person can buy enough supplies to make 1,000 "hand-load" homemade bullets.
"It's very common . for people to hand-load.
I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred
years," said Cooper.
He says hand-load bullets are commonly used by hunters and target shooters.
The fear is the hand-load bullets will get into the hands of the wrong
people.
Cooper said "it's the exception, certainly not the rule," but it is a
concern.
No one knows how many hand-load bullets make it onto the streets because
there has never been an audit of casings from crime scenes.
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OneTrex wrote:
Posted 2008/04/15
at 10:37 PM ETIf this is what passes for 'news', the CBC has just lost my
support. Not only is is a non-issue, but there appears to have been no
effort to check out the facts or obtain the point of view of those who
handload. This really is sensationalist tripe. For shame.
Straightup wrote:
Posted 2008/04/15
at 10:32 PM ETJust more of the anti gun loby BS. More people die from
swimming pool accidents every year but you don't see the goverment passing a
pool control law. let me guess,..."but but but...that's different!" Is it?
How? We are still talking about preventing people from dieing right? Guns
and the parts involved should be way down on the list of things to look at.
JimDevito wrote:
Posted 2008/04/15
at 10:25 PM ETSuputin wrote: If the chief of the provincial firearms office
doesn't know that the metallic cartridge is only about 130-140 years old
then why on earth is he in charge of a firearms office?
You are very right, and that subject was covered in the Canadian Firearms
Safety Course which came from the Canadian Firearms Safety Center of which
the esteemed Mr. Cooper is a senior officer.
Conclusion?
Who's the leader of the club that's right for you and me?
M - I - C - K -E -Y M- O - U - S - E
To the CBC - the National Enquirer does more to check the veracity of their
articles
Samtron wrote:
Posted 2008/04/15
at 10:23 PM ET
Non-issue
JimDevito wrote:
Posted 2008/04/15
at 9:57 PM ETWhoever wrote this 'story' should be sent to remedial
journalism. Check the facts and provide a balance instead of blindly
accepting what the great bureaucrats say.
Fact - reloading is not common, relatively few shooters reload.
Fact - reloaders have to show their PAL (Possession & Acquisition Licence)
to purchase ammunition and reloading components, the store I buy from enters
powder purchases in a log because the Firearms Center requires them to.
Fact - $100 will not pay for the components to make 1,000 rounds but if
Cooper knows of such a store please let me know. It costs a lot more than
that Cooper.
Fact - police forensics examine all the casings and bullets found at a crime
scene to determine their source if possible (the FBI and presumably the RCMP
even examine the lead and jacket material to determine manufacturer and lot
number if possible), to say they dont is to imply the police are incompetent
or more likely that Cooper doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.
To say that current police technology can't determine if a cartidge is a
reload or factory made is simply incredible.
Fact - criminals aren't going to reload, they dont have the inclination.
Cooper's quote about the possiblity that criminals 'may' reload or that
reloads may get into their hands is expressed in passive langauge as a
'remote possiblity'. The is fear mongering and idle speculation at best,
floating the latest social engineering BS on behalf of the Dave n Dalton Dog
N Pony Show at worst. Hardly an affirmative statement implying even he
doesn't beleive it.
Aside from the fact that he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about the
fact that he has a position of power and authority scares the crap out of
me, not the criminals though, (they're too busy laughing Coop) just those of
us who wind up choking on taxpayer funded incompetence.