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Re: OT Multiculturalism, Isalm, and Appeasement

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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 31 Mar 2008 18:01 GMT
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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> "Paulf Foley" <paulfxfoley@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13uslreot3tvnba@corp.supernews.com...
>> www.liveleak.com/view?i=30a_1204991129
>
> 'Fitna' pulled from Web
> By Ab Zagt
>
> March 28, 2008
>
> RELATED: Muslim nations condemn film
> Anti-Koran film goes live on Web
>
> AMSTERDAM -- The controversial anti-Muslim film by Dutch right-wing
> politician Geert Wilders has been removed from the Web by its British
> Internet provider, which said its employees have been seriously
> threatened.
>
> "Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature and some
> ill-informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could
> directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, LiveLeak.com has been left
> with no other choice but to remove 'Fitna' from our servers," the company
> said.
>
> The 15-minute short film was posted Thursday and taken down Friday and had
> been seen by some 3 million people. In the film, presented in Dutch- and
> English-language versions, Wilders claims that the Koran provokes
> violence, using Sept. 11, the attacks in Madrid and London and the murder
> of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh as examples.
>
> In the Netherlands, most local Muslim organizations appeared not to take
> the Wilders project seriously. There was no disturbances of the kind that
> occurred three years ago following the murder of van Gogh.
>
> Meanwhile, Wilders can expect some copyright charges from Dutch media,
> whose material was used in "Fitna" without permission. Also, the infamous
> Danish cartoon of the prophet Muhammed being hit by a bomb was used
> without approval.
>
> Wilders made another mistake. When trying to show the murderer of van
> Gogh, he instead showed a local rap artist, Salah Edin.

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Lee Bell - 31 Mar 2008 20:11 GMT
> AMSTERDAM -- The controversial anti-Muslim film by Dutch right-wing >
> politician Geert Wilders has been removed from the Web by its British
> Internet provider, which said its employees have been seriously
> threatened.

So much for freedom of the press and freedom of speech. I'll bet it's still
out on the web somewhere. I'll bet I'm going to try to find it.
Lee Bell - 31 Mar 2008 20:38 GMT
> So much for freedom of the press and freedom of speech. I'll bet it's
> still out on the web somewhere. I'll bet I'm going to try to find it.

Freedom of the press and speech seems to be more respected than I thought.
Fitna's back up.
dazed and confuzzed - 31 Mar 2008 22:07 GMT
>>AMSTERDAM -- The controversial anti-Muslim film by Dutch right-wing >
>>politician Geert Wilders has been removed from the Web by its British
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> So much for freedom of the press and freedom of speech. I'll bet it's still
> out on the web somewhere. I'll bet I'm going to try to find it.

let me know where you find it, when/if you do.

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Lee Bell - 31 Mar 2008 20:37 GMT
Liveleak had a change of heart. After stating that they would not allow
threats to control their communications, they put Fitna back up. You can
view it at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

Believe it or don't, as you choose, but by all means take the time to view
it.

Lee
dazed and confuzzed - 31 Mar 2008 22:26 GMT
> Liveleak had a change of heart. After stating that they would not allow
> threats to control their communications, they put Fitna back up. You can
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Lee

Thank you

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