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Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? Probably, but you'll find a lot more of them at uk.rec.scuba. Lee Thank you Lee Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. >> Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > > Probably, but you'll find a lot more of them at uk.rec.scuba. > > Lee > Thank you Lee > Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It > > seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. Not off the top of my head. I can tell you, however, that you can reach them via Google Groups. Lee >>Thank you Lee >>Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It > >>seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. > > Not off the top of my head. I can tell you, however, that you can reach them > via Google Groups. Yes. And there is rec.plongee in France, and de.rec.sport.tauchen in Germany. > Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It > seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. Try motzarella.org...  SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It >> seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. > > Try motzarella.org... why didn't you give one of your cheesy grins [Default] Thus spake Marinesport <info@marinesport.hr>: >Thank you Lee > >Do you maybe know a free news server that distributes that newsgroup. It >seems that my news server transmits only croatian and us groups. Not free, but 10 euros a year isn't far off. individual (www.individual.net) No binaries, so I have to find my porn elsewhere. >>> Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? >> >> Probably, but you'll find a lot more of them at uk.rec.scuba. >> >> Lee > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? No. They've all been shot dead by Gruman and Popeye. I'm only here to tell the story because I left on time. Cheers, Froggy Froggy <hub666@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4292462c-8926-4aa8-ab0d- c84fceebf116@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com: > No. > > They've all been shot dead by Gruman and Popeye. > > I'm only here to tell the story because I left on time. Well, we kept some of ya'll around to serve us beer... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 28 Mar, 18:42, "Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > Froggy <hub...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4292462c-8926-4aa8-ab0d- > c84fceebf...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Well, we kept some of ya'll around to serve us beer... Tip of the Day - Mexicans are not Europeans Janusz > On 28 Mar, 18:42, "Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Janusz We keep them around because gringo's can't fix decent enchiladas. On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> wrote: > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > No. > They've all been shot dead by Gruman and Popeye. > I'm only here to tell the story because I left on time. You are here to "tell the story" because you think far too much of yourself. Most Americans, like Pops, Grummy and I wouldn't waste a crappy bullet on you, let alone the quality ammo we prefer. Far better just to let you be all you can be. You're welcome. > On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Most Americans, like Pops, Grummy and I wouldn't waste a crappy bullet on > you, let alone the quality ammo we prefer. Most Americans like you? Never hear anything more Anti-American. Janusz > You are here to "tell the story" because you think far too much of yourself. You can't be serious. Check your f.cking mirror. > Most Americans, like Pops, Grummy and I wouldn't waste a crappy bullet on > you, let alone the quality ammo we prefer. Popeye must cringe at some of your psychobabble. > > You are here to "tell the story" because you think far too much of yourself. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Popeye must cringe at some of your psychobabble. One can only hope. Somehow I don't picture Pops and Mike "wasting" a bullet, crappy or otherwise, on someone for offending them here. But solidarity with ones' brothers is hard to set aside in public. And I'd hate to think I'm wrong about "most Americans" and that Scott's moronic sentiment isn't shared by them all. I don't believe for a minute he really means it but it's telling that he doesn't even have the good judgement to keep from saying it in front of witnesses. JF On Mar 31, 4:55 pm, Buell <Bu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Popeye must cringe at some of your psychobabble. One can only hope. Somehow I don't picture Pops and Mike "wasting" a bullet, crappy or otherwise, on someone for offending them here. But solidarity with ones' brothers is hard to set aside in public. And I'd hate to think I'm wrong about "most Americans" and that Scott's moronic sentiment isn't shared by them all. I don't believe for a minute he really means it but it's telling that he doesn't even have the good judgement to keep from saying it in front of witnesses. I might, for carl nisrael, on the slightest excuse. With your selective, biased and hebetating memory, you forget that he's threatened people here several times, from anonymity, that he would attack them from behind without warning. And he's one of your a.shole buddies, another -gaping- notch in your credibility. Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com > I might, for carl nisrael, on the slightest excuse. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And he's one of your a.shole buddies, another -gaping- notch in your > credibility. First of all, I am not now, nor have I ever been, Carl Nisarel. As for your choice of "a.shole buddies", let's make that singular, a.shole buddy, he's a certified lunatic. It surprises me that you would back up and defend such a fool. Go back an re-read some of his insane rants. He's nuts. >> I might, for carl nisrael, on the slightest excuse. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > First of all, I am not now, nor have I ever been, Carl Nisarel. Who cares? You're an anonymous usenet churl, attacking in fear from the dark. If you're not him, and I could care less, you're two peas. And by the way, skippy, nothing in my post indicates such an assumption. Methinks thou doth protest too much. > As for your choice of "a.shole buddies", let's make that singular, a.shole > buddy, he's a certified lunatic. Knowing him extensively and in person as I do, and you do not, I know this to be untrue. > It surprises me that you would back up and defend such a fool. I wasn't doing anything of the kind. A less-than-correct description of my general intentions was made, and I was clarifying it. That you find it a "defense" of "the fool" is projection on your part, and more than a little indicative of obsessiveness. >Go back an re-read some of his insane rants. He's nuts. That's bold talk from a sockpuppet devoted singularly to spewing vitriol about one individual. And it's empirical proof of your fear of him as well. YLAM Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com >> First of all, I am not now, nor have I ever been, Carl Nisarel. > > Who cares? Your a.shole buddy for one. > You're an anonymous usenet churl, attacking in fear from the dark. Fear? How about common sense. Ever been to a zoo? > If you're not him, and I could care less, you're two peas. Two peas? Kop and Pop. > And by the way, skippy, nothing in my post indicates such an assumption. Skippy? Now you're starting to even sound like him. You disappoint me, Popeye. B >>> I might, for carl nisrael, on the slightest excuse. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You're an anonymous usenet churl, attacking in fear from the dark. your an over the top of the trenches at dawn type man are you. "Douglas W. \"Fatboy\" Frederick" whimpered: > With your selective, biased and hebetating memory, you > forget that he's > threatened people here several times, from anonymity, that he > would attack them from behind without warning. Fatboy is demonstrating his paranoia. Fatboy will also spew and run from the claim above. He'll never produce any quotes to back up the claim. Scotty, rec.scuba's resident pussy, will now go piss his pants. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You're welcome. Thanks. It's great to see that the signature friendly spirit of rec.scuba is alive and well. And f.ck you, too. > > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > ... > > I'm only here to tell the story because I left on time. Hey Froggy, I'm going to be leaving in a week for some time in the 17ème; I think I heard Chilly say that she's going to be in the City of Lights too ... not sure when or what Arrondissement ... maybe we can meet up at a Cafe somewhere. Also, are they still selling the weekly 'Carte Orange' passes for the Metro? I'm mostly only finding references to the 'Paris Visite' or the 'Navigo', which are both pricey. -hh >> > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? >> ... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >-hh Hi, The weekly 'Carte Orange' for 1-2 zones costs 16.30 euros. 21.60 euros for 3 zones. The 'Carte Orange' coupons are being/have been phased out in favour of Navigo smart cards IOW your 'Carte Orange' is now on a Navigo pass. The Navigo card which would probably suit you best is the Navigo Découverte (Discovery) (one time 5 euro charge for the card itself) Remember the weekly cards run Mon thru Sun. The 'Paris Visite' runs x days starting on the first day of use. If you can read French checkout www.ratp.fr then 'Titres et Tarifs' HTH John > > > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > > ... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -hh That would be great, my hotmail address (not the hub666 one) is valid if you still have it. As John indicated, the Carte Orange is being phased out in favor of an equivalent RFID pass, but you may still be able to buy the old one, though I am not sure it is cheaper. > > Hey Froggy, I'm going to be leaving in a week for some time in the > > 17ème; I think I heard Chilly say that she's going to be in the City [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That would be great, my hotmail address (not the hub666 one) is valid > if you still have it. Found it; YGM. > As John indicated, the Carte Orange is being phased out in favor of an > equivalent RFID pass, but you may still be able to buy the old one, > though I am not sure it is cheaper. I'll be coming in from CDG; not sure if I can get a Navigo there, but it might be worth the try. I think I read that its 5 Euros for the initial RFID card...that's ok, since its Scott & Popeye's taxes that are paying :-) -hh >> > Hey Froggy, I'm going to be leaving in a week for some time in the >> > 17ème; I think I heard Chilly say that she's going to be in the City [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >-hh Roissy Airport (CDG) is a RER line B station (2 actually CDG1 & 2). You should be able to purchase a Navigo pass there. As an added bonus you can use your Navigo pass to identify yourself at the Velib stations in Paris Carte Orange coupons were discontinued on March 20th John >Hey Froggy, I'm going to be leaving in a week for some time in the >17ème; I think I heard Chilly say that she's going to be in the City >of Lights too ... not sure when or what Arrondissement ... maybe we >can meet up at a Cafe somewhere. (snip) >-hh I will be staying in the 15th, by Montparnasse Gate. You are probably back already, whereas, I haven't left yet. :^) On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> wrote: > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? No. They've all been shot dead by Gruman and Popeye. I'm only here to tell the story because I left on time. Cheers, Froggy MITCH!! How the hell are you! Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com On Mar 29, 6:21 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com Surviving. Was just lurking accidentally and saw this poor lonesome European soul about to be torn in pieces. What about you? Not in Irak yet, better hurry, apparently it's just about to become a peaceful tourist desination. On Mar 29, 6:21 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > "Froggy" <hub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com Surviving. Was just lurking accidentally and saw this poor lonesome European soul about to be torn in pieces. We were bloody civil to him. :-) What about you? I'm doing great! Not in Irak yet, I'm waiting till the Iranians come in. better hurry, apparently it's just about to become a peaceful tourist destination. How long was it before East Germany was a peaceful tourist destination? Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com > How long was it before East Germany was a peaceful tourist destination? I was not aware that this ever happened in recent history. On 1 Kwi, 13:21, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > On Mar 29, 6:21 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > I'm waiting till the Iranians come in. As usual only looking for excuses. Douggy be a man. > better hurry, apparently it's just about to become a > peaceful tourist destination. > > How long was it before East Germany was a peaceful tourist destination? As I remember it was always a very peaceful tourist destination. Janusz > -- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? Hi marinesport, I'm Italian, even if I'm living in Indonesia since a few years. May I help You? Cheers Ciao! Mi stavo chiedendo come mai nessuno qui parla di immersioni da noi, in europa, o vicino. Sembra che i europei non esistopno su usenet. Ok, adesso vado a vedere la scuba.co.uk, li forse ce di piu. Come mai se i in indonesia? Lavoravi li, o lavori ancora in subacquea? Volevo andare li gia da tanto, ma da qui ci vogliono parechi soldi, cosi non sono ancora andato. Forse mi potrai aiutare a scegliere il posto li. Darko >> Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers > Ciao! > Mi stavo chiedendo come mai nessuno qui parla di immersioni da noi, in > europa, o vicino. Sembra che i europei non esistopno su usenet. Ok, > adesso vado a vedere la scuba.co.uk, li forse ce di piu. Davvero. Italiani non fanno immersioni piu. salve, Matthias Qui da me e pieno di italiani, sopratutto vicentini, ma non vedo nessuno sull usenet >> Ciao! >> Mi stavo chiedendo come mai nessuno qui parla di immersioni da noi, in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > salve, > Matthias > Qui da me e pieno di italiani, sopratutto vicentini, ma non vedo nessuno > sull usenet C'e una lista usenet qui si chiama A.R.O. (autonomi respiratori ossigeni), del indirizzo aro-rebreather@yahoogroups.com. ciao, Matthias >>> Ciao! >>> Mi stavo chiedendo come mai nessuno qui parla di immersioni da noi, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> salve, >> Matthias > Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? yes why, what you advertising? >Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? It looks like you're near Rijecka, in Croatia, and you're a dive centre. If you're looking to promote your business here, you've made a big mistake. If you're looking to exchange information, then fire away. I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. But i never see any topics or discussions about any dives around europe, so i ask, because it looks like nobody in europe dives! >> Is here anyone from europe, or scubadiving in europe? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If you're looking to exchange information, then fire away. >I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still like >to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. > > But i never see any topics or discussions about any dives around europe, > so i ask, because it looks like nobody in europe dives! Lots do. I mentioned it before, I'll say it again. Try uk.rec.scuba where, by the way, the tone is much less agressive and the threads much more often on topic. Lee > I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still > like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. Nothing of interest for you here, then ;-) How is diving in Croatia? I only saw the coast when flying over it when going to the Middle East, but some places just look gorgeous. Cheers, Froggy Well, it is not like a coral reef, but it is still quite nice. Visibility almost always good, nice walls and a lot of life, although there is not much big fish. Region i am from has some endemic species as well because of special enviroment, but they are small crabs. Biologysts are very entusiastic about them, but it is not something you would show to an average recreational diver. Mostly everybody looks for big fish! Far north adriatic has a lot of war wrecks, but the bottom is sand and mudd due to river Po, so visibility is not much. The depths are very interesting. Almost all wrecks there are on -30m (-99ft i think) so with a bit of nitrox you can make long dives without any special technical preparation. My region is different, and deeper, so we have only one interesting wreck from -27 to -52m, all other wrecks are on average of -50m. There are some photos on my website, and if you chek it in few months there will be new and better photos together with satellite photos of sites. >> I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still >> like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Froggy > Well, it is not like a coral reef, but it is still quite nice. Visibility > almost always good, nice walls and a lot of life, although there is not [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > there will be new and better photos together with satellite photos of > sites. Vis must be great if you can see the wrecks from space. Any how this is ng is like a Pub. There is a group of central people, 3/4s pissed people who try and build up each others egos and tell each other what good guys they are. The rest just stand around and laugh at the central group and occasionally spur them on with a comment or 2 to keep their bs spewing forth. To be fair occasionally someone from the central group have a lucid moment and post something sensible. PS do not try and get between popeye and scotties they are very close if you know what I mean > Any how this is ng is like a Pub. There is a group of central people, > 3/4s pissed people who try and build up each others egos and tell each > other what good guys they are. The rest just stand around and laugh at > the central group and occasionally spur them on with a comment or 2 to > keep their bs spewing forth. To be fair occasionally someone from the > central group have a lucid moment and post something sensible. You forgot to mention the small subgroup of you 'roo f.ckers and sheep shaggers who think you are better than Americans just because your worst beer is better than our worst beer... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> Any how this is ng is like a Pub. There is a group of central people, >> 3/4s pissed people who try and build up each others egos and tell each [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > shaggers who think you are better than Americans just because your worst > beer is better than our worst beer... our worst beer is better than your best beer, just saying that to keep the paranoid "dechucka hates America" people happy. On 3 Kwi, 05:05, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > Any how this is ng is like a Pub. There is a group of central people, > > 3/4s pissed people who try and build up each others egos and tell each [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You forgot to mention the small subgroup of you 'roo f.ckers and sheep > shaggers and "ghost" lovers ;-) > who think you are better than Americans just because your worst > beer is better than our worst beer... It's not very difficult. BTW do you know any country where the worst beer isn't better than American worst beer? How do you call good beer in America? Janusz > It's not very difficult. BTW do you know any country where the worst beer > isn't better than American worst beer? How do you call good beer in > America? I'm not particularly fond of Japanese or Chinese beers... I'm not sure how bad their worst beers are, but what I assume are their better beers (since they get exported) are bad enough that I would probably prefer a Budwieser instead (and I am definitely not fond of Budweiser)... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 3 Kwi, 21:07, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > It's not very difficult. BTW do you know any country where the worst beer > > isn't better than American worst beer? How do you call good beer in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > they get exported) are bad enough that I would probably prefer a Budwieser > instead (and I am definitely not fond of Budweiser)... I'm not an expert on Japanese or Chinese beers so it's very difficult for me to compare them, but IIRC "Japanese" beers available in America are locally brewed, so they should be qualified as American beer ;-))))))) Janusz > I'm not an expert on Japanese or Chinese beers so it's very difficult for > me to compare them, but IIRC "Japanese" beers available in America are > locally brewed, so they should be qualified as American beer ;-))))))) http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/foreign-beers-home-brewed/2005/09/17/1126750 168516.html Guinness brewed in Australia... The sacrilege... The shame... I guess it could be worse... It could be brewed in Mexico... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> I'm not an expert on Japanese or Chinese beers so it's very difficult for >> me to compare them, but IIRC "Japanese" beers available in America are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Guinness brewed in Australia... The sacrilege... The shame... I guess it > could be worse... It could be brewed in Mexico... and the Guinness brewed In Australia is brewed to a different recipe than the Irish Guinness, stronger and more bitter On 3 Kwi, 23:08, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > I'm not an expert on Japanese or Chinese beers so it's very difficult for > > me to compare them, but IIRC "Japanese" beers available in America are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Guinness brewed in Australia... The sacrilege... The shame... I guess it > could be worse... It could be brewed in Mexico... Do you like Guinness? AFAIK in North America it's brewed in Canada. Janusz > I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still > like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. > > But i never see any topics or discussions about any dives around europe, > so i ask, because it looks like nobody in europe dives! We can't speak english to tell. Matthias > I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still > like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. > > But i never see any topics or discussions about any dives around europe, > so i ask, because it looks like nobody in europe dives! It's not the best place to discuss scuba in Europe, as many of the "divers" here never left their country. Probably if you read some of the threads here you would have come to the conclusion that the word "sh.t" is more common here than "water". Anyway Dobro dosli Janusz Janusz, are your origins Hungarian? >> I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still >> like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Janusz > Janusz, are your origins Hungarian? No. AFAIK I'm 100% Polish. Janusz >> Janusz, are your origins Hungarian? > > No. AFAIK I'm 100% Polish. > > Janusz I'm not touching that comment :-) I'm going to be nice >I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still >like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> If you're looking to exchange information, then fire away. OK, dobro dosli. Kako ste? Ja sam Misko. My father's parents emigrated from the Zagreb area. I've been there once in the winter, but my dad has been back several times. He loves the Adriatic coast -- Split, Dubrovnik, etc. I never really learned the language, apart from some cursing. My dad speaks Croatian. > >I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still > >like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > OK, dobro dosli. Kako ste? Ja sam Misko. Not bad start. To avoid some stupid remarks from the Metoos Club the above means: "Welcome. How are you? My name is Misko" > My father's parents emigrated from the Zagreb area. I've been there > once in the winter, but my dad has been back several times. He loves > the Adriatic coast -- Split, Dubrovnik, etc. So you have to go. Wonderful place and good diving. > I never really learned the language, apart from some cursing. That's mean you'll be able to understand sometimes up to 50% of conversation ;-) Janusz > My dad > speaks Croatian. >> OK, dobro dosli. Kako ste? Ja sam Misko. > Not bad start. > To avoid some stupid remarks from the Metoos Club the above means: > "Welcome. How are you? My name is Misko" Jebo ti pas mater. Yeah, I can do google searches for useful things... <grin> SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 2 Kwi, 12:47, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > >> OK, dobro dosli. Kako ste? Ja sam Misko. > > Not bad start. > > To avoid some stupid remarks from the Metoos Club the above means: > > "Welcome. How are you? My name is Misko" > > Jebo ti pas mater. Glup ti kao kurac. Janusz <snip> >> My father's parents emigrated from the Zagreb area. I've been there >> once in the winter, but my dad has been back several times. He loves >> the Adriatic coast -- Split, Dubrovnik, etc. > >So you have to go. Wonderful place and good diving. It would be great to see the Adriatic coast in the summer. >> I never really learned the language, apart from some cursing. >That's mean you'll be able to understand sometimes up to 50% of >conversation ;-) Of course. I travelled for a year after leaving university, and tried to learn to count and a few useful phrases in each country I visited. Despite my better intentions, cursing is always the first thing you tend to learn. When I visited family in Croatia, I found that after a while I could sometimes understand the gist of conversations, especially if I was drinking slivovice. > On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 03:12:39 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > It would be great to see the Adriatic coast in the summer. Better May or June. The weather is much more bearable. Definitely avoid August. > >> I never really learned the language, apart from some cursing. > >That's mean you'll be able to understand sometimes up to 50% of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Despite my better intentions, cursing is always the first thing you > tend to learn. And the most useful, too. > When I visited family in Croatia, I found that after a while I could > sometimes understand the gist of conversations, especially if I was > drinking slivovice. two or three days? I hope it was homemade. Janusz >> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 03:12:39 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" >> >> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:46:45 +0200, Marinesport <i...@marinesport.hr> <snip> >> When I visited family in Croatia, I found that after a while I could >> sometimes understand the gist of conversations, especially if I was >> drinking slivovice. >two or three days? I hope it was homemade. I was there with a Ukrainian friend, and we stayed with relatives for a couple of weeks. Seemed like both sides of the family wanted equal time with us, and at each home you visited, the slivovice got pulled out. Definitely. The home-grown slivovice is clear -- the stuff we can buy here is yellowish. 2 friends, my son and I did a weekend white water kayaking school a few years ago, and stayed at my parents' place, which is nearby. The first night, my dad brought out the slivovice, and 1 friend drank too much. My dad was offering both the Croatian (brought back with him from Croatia) & store-bought stuff. My friend, Dave, had a rough time the next morning. The first thing we had to do was bail-out of an upside-down kayak, in cold water. He was feeling rougher than fish hooks in bear sh.t. Dave looks back and says he got "slivo-blizted," and now can't stand the thought or smell of the stuff. > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > time with us, and at each home you visited, the slivovice got pulled > out. To break the language barrier ;-) > Definitely. The home-grown slivovice is clear -- the stuff we can buy > here is yellowish. Each family has it's own recipe for the drink. It's real fun when they distill it. > 2 friends, my son and I did a weekend white water kayaking school a > few years ago, and stayed at my parents' place, which is nearby. The > first night, my dad brought out the slivovice, and 1 friend drank too > much. My dad was offering both the Croatian (brought back with him > from Croatia) & store-bought stuff. > My friend, Dave, had a rough time the next morning. The first thing > we had to do was bail-out of an upside-down kayak, in cold water. He > was feeling rougher than fish hooks in bear sh.t. Dave looks back and > says he got "slivo-blizted," and now can't stand the thought or smell > of the stuff. Maybe he has to try different types of rakija, like loza or travarica. There is also shumadian tea which is quite good - especially after some swim in cold water. Janusz >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" <snip> >> My friend, Dave, had a rough time the next morning. The first thing >> we had to do was bail-out of an upside-down kayak, in cold water. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >There is also shumadian tea which is quite good - especially after >some swim in cold water. My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in those days (the 1970s), Poland had little you could buy. We were shocked at the food lines for milk and bread. We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 buddies tossed him into the back seat of our car, which was when we realised he was drunk. He passed us a bottle of what he called "rakija" -- we tried it, but almost hurled, it was so strong. It may well have been home-brewed. We nicknamed it "rakit fuel." >>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > those days (the 1970s), Poland had little you could buy. We were > shocked at the food lines for milk and bread. I'm shocked Smuggling is okay to make some bucks but us with legal guns are bad > > My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in > > some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Smuggling is okay to make some bucks but us with legal guns are bad You had guns in Poland, Joe? >>> My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in >>> some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You had guns in Poland, Joe? I could have > >>> My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in > >>> some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I could have How are you going to smuggle it in? A roll of dollars is probably much more comfortable than a six-shooter. > >>> My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in > >>> some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I could have No way. We have compulsory medical check and I'm 100% sure that you would have failed psychological part. Janusz >>>>> My friend had contacts in the black market in Poland -- we smuggled in >>>>> some US dollars and figured we could live high, not realising that, in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Janusz you are there - so obviously not > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Smuggling is okay to make some bucks but us with legal guns are bad Joe, how many times do I have to ask you for slower reading. MfO intent was to spend not to make some bucks. That's why he smuggled "in" not "out". Regarding guns - you can do the same and you will be granted nice accommodation and food for a couple years. The only inconvenience would be roommates, but you like tough boys. Janusz >>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" >>> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Janusz Oh got it, you smuggling in is good, smuggling out is bad. and here I thought it was the smuggling that was bad irregardless of the direction. I don't think I can slow my reading down enough to understand you. I've slowed to a crawl as it is. Sorry for that > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I don't think I can slow my reading down enough to understand you. > I've slowed to a crawl as it is. Sorry for that Joe, you have to make decision what you are going to do. If you crawl you can't read. So if I can suggest you something take a chair sit on it and start reading, but very slowly and try to understand what you're supposed to read. Maybe with some effort you' ll find out that nobody told if smuggling is bad or good. There is still possibility that it was that small guy in your head, but in such a case I can't help you. Janusz >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Janusz Oh My God! > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Oh My God! The guy in your head is not God. Janusz >>>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Smuggling is okay to make some bucks but us with legal guns are bad Huh? I wasn't making anything from the bucks, and it was only about $200. I don't see any relationship to your guns, nor do I care what guns you tote. > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > those days (the 1970s), Poland had little you could buy. We were > shocked at the food lines for milk and bread. What you took as food lines were regular shop lines. At the time it was necessary to buy milk and bread daily. Bread was baked without any artificial additives, so it was short duration. Similarly with milk - as a maximum it was pasteurized and the customer had guarantee that it lost contact with cow only a couple hours before. > We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) > decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 > buddies tossed him into the back seat of our car, which was when we > realised he was drunk. He passed us a bottle of what he called > "rakija" -- we tried it, but almost hurled, it was so strong. It may > well have been home-brewed. We nicknamed it "rakit fuel." Nice story, but there is something what make me suspicious if it is really true. No one in Poland would have used the word "rakija". Janusz > Bread was baked without any artificial additives, so it was short > duration. That does not make it short life. What makes it short life, is the addition of old bread to the new one's flour. With a bread w/o any chemical additives, you may count for a shelf life of 3 weeks. Fact was, you had to buy everything that was on supply, just to be able to have something to exchange for anything you might need. Matthias > That does not make it short life. What makes it short life, is the > addition of old bread to the new one's flour. There's also the issue of whether the bread picks up any germs from being handled by human hands... I've noticed that bread in which I'm dilligent in not touching with my hands when I pull it a slice out of the bag lasts longer than bread in which I use my hands to get a piece, even if I wash my hands beforehand... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 6 Kwi, 19:39, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > That does not make it short life. What makes it short life, is the > > addition of old bread to the new one's flour. > > There's also the issue of whether the bread picks up any germs from being > handled by human hands... right Janusz > I've noticed that bread in which I'm dilligent > in not touching with my hands when I pull it a slice out of the bag lasts [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >>That does not make it short life. What makes it short life, is the >>addition of old bread to the new one's flour. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > longer than bread in which I use my hands to get a piece, even if I wash > my hands beforehand... It's the thoughts... ;-) Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Bread was baked without any artificial additives, so it was short > > duration. > > That does not make it short life. What makes it short life, is the > addition of old bread to the new one's flour. I don't know. I don't have any experience in bakery. > With a bread w/o any chemical additives, you may count for a shelf life > of 3 weeks. Only if it was made traditional, not commercial way . > Fact was, you had to buy everything that was on supply, just to be able > to have something to exchange for anything you might need. Wrong, by a couple years. Janusz >>Fact was, you had to buy everything that was on supply, just to be able >>to have something to exchange for anything you might need. > > Wrong, by a couple years. How many couples of years does the grammatical tense "past", like in "was", include? Matthias > >>Fact was, you had to buy everything that was on supply, just to be able > >>to have something to exchange for anything you might need. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Matthias 1980s vs. 1970s Janusz >> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >What you took as food lines were regular shop lines. At the time it >was necessary to buy milk and bread daily. Yes, that's what I meant. >Bread was baked without any artificial additives, so it was short >duration. Similarly with milk - as a maximum it was pasteurized and >the customer had guarantee that it lost contact with cow only a couple >hours before. My understanding was that there was just a short supply of the basic necessities. There was a small tourist bureau where I asked a girl where I could buy Polish sausage. She got embarrassed and replied that today was not a "meat day" -- tomorrow was, but I'd have to line up early. We left Wroclaw the next day, heading for Vienna. >> We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) >> decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Nice story, but there is something what make me suspicious if it is >really true. No one in Poland would have used the word "rakija". Fine, doubt me. Maybe the soldier wasn't 100% Polish, maybe he was in Poland on loan from 1 of the other East Bloc countries, whatever. I've never heard the term "rakija" again until you. I've asked Croatians and other slavs and none had heard of the term. > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 00:40:49 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > My understanding was that there was just a short supply of the basic > necessities. > There was a small tourist bureau where I asked a girl where I could > buy Polish sausage. She got embarrassed and replied that today was > not a "meat day" -- tomorrow was, but I'd have to line up early. We > left Wroclaw the next day, heading for Vienna. That's possible. There was short supply of meat which even led to serious problems in the early 1980s. When exactly have you been in Poland? > >> We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) > >> decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the term "rakija" again until you. I've asked Croatians and other > slavs and none had heard of the term. The term "rakija/rakia/raki" is in use mainly in the Balkans area, where home brewing of hard liquor was allowed by law and become part of national tradition. The different story is with Poland, where it is against the law. Of course some people take the risk and make moonshine liquor, which is really strong, but the names used for are - bimber, samogon etc. and never "rakija". Janusz >> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 00:40:49 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" <snip> >> There was a small tourist bureau where I asked a girl where I could >> buy Polish sausage. She got embarrassed and replied that today was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >serious problems in the early 1980s. >When exactly have you been in Poland? The winter of 1976. As we headed out for the Czech border, our windshield fractured into thousands of cracks -- it was like rubber after that. We poked it out & put it in bags in the back seat. The guards at the border had a good laugh at us, but gave us a plastic sheet. We cut a slot in the plastic for the driver to see and got it fixed in Wien. I had taken some photos of the Berlin Wall and decided to get them developed in Zagreb. Big mistake. Those prints, which were in the middle of the roll, somehow didn't turn out. Damn. >> >> We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) >> >> decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >moonshine liquor, which is really strong, but the names used for are - >bimber, samogon etc. and never "rakija". The slavs I spoke to over here had never heard of it. As for being against the law, so is speeding, but almost everyone does it. In university, many of us in the house took labs, so we set up a still in our basement. > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:02:41 -0700 (PDT), "janus...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > windshield fractured into thousands of cracks -- it was like rubber > after that. We poked it out & put it in bags in the back seat. And it was winter. I'm shivering even thinking about it. > The guards at the border had a good laugh at us, but gave us a plastic > sheet. We cut a slot in the plastic for the driver to see and got it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > developed in Zagreb. Big mistake. Those prints, which were in the > middle of the roll, somehow didn't turn out. Damn. They were "censored" > >> >> We were there in the winter, en route to Croatia, and (foolishly) > >> >> decided to pick up a Polish soldier who was hitch-hiking. His 2 [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > it. In university, many of us in the house took labs, so we set up a > still in our basement. The difference is that speeding is for pleasure and penalty is not so severe. Janusz Hi Miško! I am sure that you can find a Croatian community in every bigger city in Canada if you want to learn some Croatian...or you can chat online and ask somebody. You should come with your dad. Croatia is worth visiting. (and this is not a commercial, i just love my country) >> I own a dive center, but i am still a person, still a diver, and still >> like to dive and discuss scubadiving with other people. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I never really learned the language, apart from some cursing. My dad > speaks Croatian. > You should come with your dad. Croatia is worth visiting. (and this is not > a commercial, i just love my country) I don't know much about Croatia except that one of my best competition pistols was made there. Springfield Armory imports XDs from Croatia. Lee >>You should come with your dad. Croatia is worth visiting. (and this is not >>a commercial, i just love my country) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lee You like the XD for competition? Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ America: Ironically, the safest place to be anti-American. ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 > You like the XD for competition? You bet. I have two of them. The sub compact that was purchased as a carry gun turned out to be impractical for me down here in S. Florida. It's not concealable when wearing shorts and a T shirt. I'll probably put it on the market before long since I don't shoot it and I no longer have a reason to own it. It was replaced by a Kahr PM9. The other one is the XD 9 Tactical. It's accurate, reliable and points quite well for me. With its 5 inch barrel and fully cocked striker action, it's perfect for USPSA Production division. The division is set up for production pistols with some "minor" modifications that are double action only, single action/double action or striker fired. There are only a couple of single action striker fired pistols that are legal in the division. The XD is one of them. Mine has a fiber optic front sight, an adjustable rear sight, a heavier trigger bar from Springer Precision (a known weak point in the XD) and a couple hundred dollars worth of trigger work. It has a clean, crisp 2.5 lb pull. Production scores everyone as minor, making the 9mm as good as any other caliber. What's not to like. I'm classified in four divisions, Production (XD9 Tactical), Single Stack (Kimber Stainless Gold Match II .40, Colt Gold Cup .45 and Colt Delta Elite 10mm), Limited 10 and Limited (my new CZ 75 TS .40). Lee >Hi Miko! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You should come with your dad. Croatia is worth visiting. (and this is >not a commercial, i just love my country) <snip> My dad just turned 80; he's in good health, but I doubt he'll go over again. He's also skipped over all the rest of Europe, which is unfortunate for him. For my dad growing up here, there was a fair bit of prejudice towards people of Eastern European descent. He was born here, but was still treated poorly at times by those of British origins. E.g., he worked in a steel plant with an uncle -- my uncle by marriage is pure English, and would never speak to my dad at work. I believe it pissed off my dad, and drew him closer to his Croatian roots. I never saw anything of that as I grew up. I'm half Croatian, and the other half is English, Irish and German -- a true mutt. I'm interested in my background and I'm aware of my Croatian roots, and I was the first in our family to visit Croatia. But I have to say I'm Canadian, and being Canadian is far more important to me. I'm sure you'll understand. My dad forced us to get involved in some of the cultural things when we were kids, against our wills. My brother did kolo dancing and it soured him against anything Croatian. I played tamburitsa. > I'm half Croatian, and the other half is English, Irish and German -- > a true mutt. I'm interested in my background and I'm aware of my > Croatian roots, and I was the first in our family to visit Croatia. > But I have to say I'm Canadian, and being Canadian is far more > important to me. I'm sure you'll understand. Not at all. Being Canadian is not far more important to me. Hey, I somewhat recently met a Croatian who lives in Toronto, the next town over from yours. His name is Joe. Do you know him? >> I'm half Croatian, and the other half is English, Irish and German -- >> a true mutt. I'm interested in my background and I'm aware of my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Not at all. Being Canadian is not far more important to me. What, are you Michael Moore? >Hey, I somewhat recently met a Croatian who lives in Toronto, the next >town over from yours. His name is Joe. Do you know him? Hey, I know him, too! And he drinks Canadian! |
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