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Lee Bell - 07 Mar 2008 02:16 GMT
JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical seminary
and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday, killing eight
people and wounding nine before he was slain, police and rescue workers
said.

Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip praised the operation in a statement, and
thousands of Palestinians took to the streets of Gaza to celebrate.

All it would have taken to reduce the toll was one armed citizen.

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-die-in-shooting-at-jerusalem-seminary/20080306143
909990001

John Kulp - 07 Mar 2008 03:21 GMT
>JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical seminary
>and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday, killing eight
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-die-in-shooting-at-jerusalem-seminary/20080306143
909990001

They've got more armed citizens in Israel than you could begin to
count, so there goes that cute theory.
Lee Bell - 07 Mar 2008 09:29 GMT
>>JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>>seminary
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> They've got more armed citizens in Israel than you could begin to
> count, so there goes that cute theory.

One person entered the seminary and killed 8 and wounded 9 before anyone
stopped him. How many of those armed citizens do you suppose were present in
that seminary? My guess is that it's another one of those gun free zones we
keep reading about deaths in.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 02:42 GMT
> One person entered the seminary and killed 8 and wounded 9 before anyone
> stopped him. How many of those armed citizens do you suppose were present in
> that seminary? My guess is that it's another one of those gun free zones we
> keep reading about deaths in.

Once again you display your utter lack of common sense and
intelligence.

A rabbinical seminary is like a priest seminary or a monastery.  By
virtue of their faith, most priest or monk candidates probably eschew
firearms like they eschew sex.  It's not as if they need to declare it
a "gun free" area because no one would even consider the idea of
carrying a gun to class while they're studying religion.  It's about
the absolute nuttiest statement I've heard you make to date and that's
saying a lot.
Rod - 07 Mar 2008 03:59 GMT
>JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical seminary
>and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday, killing eight
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-die-in-shooting-at-jerusalem-seminary/20080306143
909990001

Actually I heard on the news today the Rabbinical students were armed
and it was them that killed the gunmen
John Kulp - 07 Mar 2008 04:08 GMT
>>JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical seminary
>>and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday, killing eight
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Actually I heard on the news today the Rabbinical students were armed
>and it was them that killed the gunmen

Could well be.  I've been there twice and the place is armed camp,
both outwardly and concealed.
dechucka - 07 Mar 2008 04:43 GMT
> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> All it would have taken to reduce the toll was one armed citizen.

they were armed. Seems it was like the shootout at the OK Corral. Hope none
of those killed were by friendly fire.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 07 Mar 2008 06:14 GMT
>> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> they were armed. Seems it was like the shootout at the OK Corral. Hope
> none of those killed were by friendly fire.

 What, as opposed to waiting around and seeing how many the guy could kill
while unopposed?

 Luckily, the Israelis don't suffer your disease.

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dechucka - 07 Mar 2008 07:15 GMT
>>> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>>> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>  What, as opposed to waiting around and seeing how many the guy could kill
> while unopposed?

hopefully there was no friendly fire deaths

>  Luckily, the Israelis don't suffer your disease.

or the American gun diseases
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 07 Mar 2008 14:42 GMT
>>>> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>>>> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> hopefully there was no friendly fire deaths

 More mumbling.

>>  Luckily, the Israelis don't suffer your disease.
>
> or the American gun diseases

 Glad you never make AA remarks.

 Just another pork of the pie.

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dechucka - 07 Mar 2008 20:57 GMT
>>>>> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
>>>>> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>  More mumbling.

friendly fire deaths are OK if you have your gun? Look at US casualties in
Nam and the ME ( and British deaths) before you mumble about friendly fire
Greg Mossman - 07 Mar 2008 08:39 GMT
On Mar 6, 10:14 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> >> JERUSALEM (March 6) - A gunman entered the library of a rabbinical
> >> seminary and opened fire on a crowded nighttime study session Thursday,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>   Luckily, the Israelis don't suffer your disease.

It was a soldier that killed the guy.  We have armed soldiers in our
country too, as well as armed police.  The difference is that in
Israel, apart from terrorist acts, they don't have much of a problem
with violent crime.  Too bad they can't disarm the Palestinians.
Maybe that will change a bit now that there's one less "death
merchant" living free.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 07 Mar 2008 10:43 GMT
On Mar 6, 10:14 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Luckily, the Israelis don't suffer your disease.

It was a soldier that killed the guy.  We have armed soldiers in our
country too, as well as armed police.

   And if soldiers roamed the streets, blasting criminals, you'd squeal
louder then than you do now.

   Of course, it would be fine by me.

The difference is that in
Israel, apart from terrorist acts, they don't have much of a problem
with violent crime.

   So, you're saying that with a heavily armed populace, military, and
police, crime is less of a problem.

   And that everybody having a gun is not the problem.

   Glad you're finally on board.

 Too bad they can't disarm the Palestinians.

   You mean, like you want to disarm criminals (after the law abiding)
here?

   Wow.

   It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.

Maybe that will change a bit now that there's one less "death
merchant" living free.

   Or not.

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Lee Bell - 07 Mar 2008 11:57 GMT
>> >> Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip praised the operation in a
>> >> statement,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> > they were armed. Seems it was like the shootout at the OK Corral. Hope
>> > none of those killed were by friendly fire.

Me too.  If they were armed, I missed that in the article.  Seems they need
more practice.  Even you could probably do better than letting a single
gunman kill 8 and injure 9 before returning fire effectively.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 02:51 GMT
On Mar 7, 2:43 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

>     And if soldiers roamed the streets, blasting criminals, you'd squeal
> louder then than you do now.

Cite?

I travel a bit and plenty of the countries I travel to have soldiers
roaming the streets, police armed with automatic rifles, etc.  I agree
that we do need more security in the U.S., but where I disagree is who
should provide the security.  You want every Joe Schmoe, drunk,
feeble, insane, whatever, to be armed to the teeth.  Me, I'd rather
let the police and soldiers do the job they're trained to do and keep
the amateurs out of it.

>     Of course, it would be fine by me.

Then we agree on something for a change.  Our military is bloated,
being wasted in shitholes like Iraq because we need to "use them or
lose them".  I'd much rather soldiers keep us safe at home rather than
try to keep Iraqis safe.  Let the Iraqis handle their own problems.
We have enough of our own, thank you.

>     So, you're saying that with a heavily armed populace, military, and
> police, crime is less of a problem.

No, I'm saying that crime is less of a problem.  The society keeps
heavily armed because the country is surrounded on all sides by
terrorists with the stated purpose of killing Jews in Israel.  On the
other hand, we're surrounded by friendly Canadians and Mexicans who
merely want to visit Florida in the winter or pick our strawberries.
Why do you fear snowbirds and strawberry pickers so much you need to
be armed?

>     And that everybody having a gun is not the problem.

The armed Israelis all have military experience.  The average Dick and
Harry with a gun out here has no more training than plinking at beer
cans and shooting their guns in the air on New Year's Eve.

>     Glad you're finally on board.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>     It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.

If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.
Dennis (Icarus) - 09 Mar 2008 05:31 GMT
<snip>
>> You mean, like you want to disarm criminals (after the law abiding)
>> here?
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> It's just epiphany after epiphany for you today.

>If the entire world were disarmed, it would be a more peaceful place.
>If that's an epiphany, maybe you need one.

No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Dennis
Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 07:34 GMT
On Mar 8, 8:31 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:
> <snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead.  Maybe even a slap on
the cheek.  Ouch.

Anyway, got to cut this one short.  Aggressor bus is almost here.
Back in a week.
Dennis (Icarus) - 09 Mar 2008 14:50 GMT
>"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:41c887c7-e9df-4f05-9704-109d3e91dd8d@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 8, 8:31 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead.  Maybe even a slap on
>the cheek.  Ouch.

Uhm....wrong. Folks have been killed by manual strangulation, being beaten
to death, without any weapons involved other than hands and feet.
So if you truly wanted to "disarm" the world....

>Anyway, got to cut this one short.  Aggressor bus is almost here.
>Back in a week.

have fun.

Dennis
Curtis - 09 Mar 2008 15:55 GMT
>>Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead.  Maybe even a slap on
>>the cheek.  Ouch.

> Uhm....wrong. Folks have been killed by manual strangulation, being beaten
> to death, without any weapons involved other than hands and feet.
> So if you truly wanted to "disarm" the world....

   Must have been some moron that made light of a slap on the cheek.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 09 Mar 2008 20:04 GMT
> >>Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead.  Maybe even a slap on
> >>the cheek.  Ouch.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>     Must have been some moron that made light of a slap on the cheek.

Do you mean the guy who said something about turning the other cheek?

Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 10 Mar 2008 03:59 GMT
> >>Yeah, everyone would yell at each other instead.  Maybe even a slap on
> >>the cheek.  Ouch.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>     Must have been some moron that made light of a slap on the cheek.

Nah, just someone who's misguided.

Dennis
Curtis - 10 Mar 2008 04:39 GMT
>>     Must have been some moron <snip>

> Nah, just someone who's misguided.

   and yet another example of conservative vs liberal, in
terminology.......  ;-)

Curtis
Dennis (Icarus) - 10 Mar 2008 13:12 GMT
> >>     Must have been some moron <snip>
>
> > Nah, just someone who's misguided.
>
>     and yet another example of conservative vs liberal, in
> terminology.......  ;-)

Maybe he'd rethink his positions on "slaps" if you demonstrated how you used
(perhaps still do?) slap bricks about.

Dennis
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Greg Mossman - 16 Mar 2008 20:22 GMT
On Mar 10, 6:18 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:

> > "Dennis (Icarus)"  wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Maybe he'd rethink his positions on "slaps" if you demonstrated how you used
> (perhaps still do?) slap bricks about.

Ya think Curtis can break a brick with an open-hand slap?  That I
doubt.  On the other hand, I bet he could break bricks with his head.
Scott - 09 Mar 2008 14:12 GMT
> No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.

Only an idiot would think it even possible to "disarm the entire world", let
alone propose such a complete line of vapid bullshit as a foundation for
anything.

People have been armed and killing each other since the first primate picked
up a rock a caved a lawyers skull in with it.
Dennis (Icarus) - 09 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT
> > No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> People have been armed and killing each other since the first primate picked
> up a rock a caved a lawyers skull in with it.

And before that, they just used their hands.

I guess there wouldn;t be any more rocks lying about.
Nor anything else that might cause injury.
Five day waitng period and background check when trying to buy rope, chain,
or even an extension cord?

Dennis
Scott - 09 Mar 2008 15:16 GMT
> And before that, they just used their hands.
>
> I guess there wouldn;t be any more rocks lying about.
> Nor anything else that might cause injury.
> Five day waitng period and background check when trying to buy rope, chain,
> or even an extension cord?

Or box knives, kitchen knives with points, airplane tickets...

Then We would be a real socialism, more like the Chinese...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080309/D8V9TLL80.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id
=528694&in_page_id=1811

janusz_w@hotmail.com - 09 Mar 2008 20:09 GMT
> > No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.
>
> Only an idiot would think
Quite interesting oxymoron. FYI idiots don't think and you should know
it.

> it even possible to "disarm the entire world", let
> alone propose such a complete line of vapid bullshit as a foundation for
> anything.
>
> People have been armed and killing each other since the first primate picked
> up a rock a caved a lawyers skull in with it.

Scotty, I know your obsession about lawyer, but believe me that when
first ape picked up a rock there were no lawyers.
Janusz
Joe English - 09 Mar 2008 20:40 GMT
>>>No, it wouldn't The violence would just take different forms.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> first ape picked up a rock there were no lawyers.
> Janusz
 The good ole days
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 22:08 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>   The good ole days

Do you miss them? You can always join some apes in Africa.

Janusz
Joe English - 12 Mar 2008 02:44 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Janusz

I try to stay away from your type - but thanks for playing
dechucka - 12 Mar 2008 02:49 GMT
>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> I try to stay away from your type - but thanks for playing and winning

typo fixed
Joe English - 13 Mar 2008 13:13 GMT
>>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> typo fixed

no typo just another third world country delusion it has now been fixed
properly
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 13 Mar 2008 13:51 GMT
> >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> no typo just another third world country delusion it has now been fixed
> properly

As you wish. Thanks for playing and losing, Joe

Janusz
Joe English - 13 Mar 2008 22:51 GMT
>>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Janusz

Your comprehension could use some help - try to keep up
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 14 Mar 2008 13:26 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> Your comprehension could use some help - try to keep up

O.K. I  w i l l  w r i t e  i t  v e r y  s l o w l y

Y o u  p l a y e d  a n d  y o u  l o s t

Janusz
Joe English - 14 Mar 2008 23:42 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> Janusz

Nice try - here in America just because you say it often enough doesn't
make it right.  You have been exposed here too many times to be taken
seriously.
Scott - 15 Mar 2008 01:39 GMT
> Nice try - here in America just because you say it often enough doesn't
> make it right.  You have been exposed here too many times to be taken
> seriously.

Oh, Anus is taken seriously here.

As a serious numbnut.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 08:56 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
> Nice try - here in America just because you say it often enough doesn't
> make it right.

You are too stubborn/stupid to accept it? Give up your hope -Y o u  p
l a y e d  a n d  y o u  l o s t.

Janusz
Joe English - 15 Mar 2008 12:57 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
>
> Janusz

Maybe you should try the Poish version of Are you Smarter than I 5th
Grader.  They only ask questions to 2nd Grade
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 17:32 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
> Maybe you should try the Poish version of Are you Smarter than I 5th
> Grader.  They only ask questions to 2nd Grade

No fun. Too many winners. BTW are you 5th grader?

Janusz
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Mar 2008 10:42 GMT
>> Y o u  p l a y e d  a n d  y o u  l o s t
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> make it right.  You have been exposed here too many times to be taken
> seriously.

 <snicker>

 "You have been exposed here too many times to be taken seriously."

 The perfect jAnus description, Big Joe.

 Remember when Futile John was impressed that jAnus was setting us all
straight? :-)

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Joe English - 15 Mar 2008 12:58 GMT
>>> Y o u  p l a y e d  a n d  y o u  l o s t
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>  Remember when Futile John was impressed that jAnus was setting us all
> straight? :-)

in fact I remember all too well
JOF - 15 Mar 2008 14:34 GMT
> >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> in fact I remember all too well-

It was an interesting sidetrack from our ongoing exercise in
commonsense vs monomania, wasn't it? Of course commonsense was as
usual drowned out by the baying of the Metoos. BTW. It just occurred
to me where I got that Metoo name from - Mini-Me. Have you seen that
movie?

JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Mar 2008 16:52 GMT
On Mar 15, 7:58 am, Joe English <joe2aengl...@wisperhome.com> wrote:
> Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> in fact I remember all too well-

It was an interesting sidetrack from our ongoing exercise in
commonsense vs monomania, wasn't it? Of course commonsense was as
usual drowned out by the baying of the Metoos. BTW. It just occurred
to me where I got that Metoo name from - Mini-Me. Have you seen that
movie?

JF

   No, but I remember where "Futile" comes from.

   It's the sum of your coherence and credibility here.

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Scott - 15 Mar 2008 17:05 GMT
>     No, but I remember where "Futile" comes from.

>     It's the sum of your coherence and credibility here.

There you go being generous again.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 17:39 GMT
> >     No, but I remember where "Futile" comes from.
> >     It's the sum of your coherence and credibility here.
>
> There you go being generous again.

Check your nose. It's getting more brown every post.

Janusz
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Mar 2008 20:50 GMT
>>     No, but I remember where "Futile" comes from.
>
>>     It's the sum of your coherence and credibility here.
>
> There you go being generous again.

\  It's just my nature.

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 17:36 GMT
> > >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> It was an interesting sidetrack from our ongoing exercise in
> commonsense vs monomania, wasn't it?
not only monomania, but also xenophobia, scolinophobia etc. ;-)))

Janusz

> Of course commonsense was as
> usual drowned out by the baying of the Metoos. BTW. It just occurred
> to me where I got that Metoo name from - Mini-Me. Have you seen that
> movie?
>
> JF
JOF - 15 Mar 2008 21:11 GMT
On Mar 15, 12:36 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> > > >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> not only monomania, but also xenophobia, scolinophobia etc. ;-)))

They aren't afraid of school. They're armed, remember? There are
definite signs of xenophobia though. A few of them seem particularly
conscious of the French for some reason.

JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Mar 2008 21:57 GMT
On Mar 15, 12:36 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On 15 Mar, 14:34, JOF <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> not only monomania, but also xenophobia, scolinophobia etc. ;-)))

They aren't afraid of school. They're armed, remember? There are
definite signs of xenophobia though. A few of them seem particularly
conscious of the French for some reason.

   That's pretty bold, passing between one guy who spends 100% of his
posting history here criticizing another country, and a guy who spends 80%
or more doing the same thing.

   Must be the usual different standards for Canadians.

JF

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JOF - 15 Mar 2008 23:34 GMT
On Mar 15, 4:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 12:36 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> posting history here criticizing another country, and a guy who spends 80%
> or more doing the same thing.

Nice dodge on the accuracy of the point though.

>     Must be the usual different standards for Canadians.

Obfuscation R us, eh?

JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 19 Mar 2008 11:27 GMT
On Mar 15, 4:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> posting history here criticizing another country, and a guy who spends 80%
> or more doing the same thing.

Nice dodge on the accuracy of the point though.

    I've never seen any of your points be accurate.

   But I don't follow conversations the jAnus is in, I was just commenting
on -your- use of xenophobia.

   Which would make you the obfuscator, since you've yet to respond to the
point.

> Must be the usual different standards for Canadians.

Obfuscation R us, eh?

   Repeatedly documented in detail.

   It's just the best you can do.

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Mar 2008 20:52 GMT
On 19 Mar, 11:27, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 4:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
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>
>     But I don't follow conversations the jAnus is in,
Frightened? Shiting your pants?

Janusz

> I was just commenting
> on -your- use of xenophobia.
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>
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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 15 Mar 2008 23:15 GMT
> On Mar 15, 12:36 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
> They aren't afraid of school. They're armed, remember?
Yes, they're armed, and it gives them some sense of "security".
Regarding scolinophobia they showed the most significant symptoms
during their school years, when they were not armed and it is still
somewhere in their subconsciousness that's why they're looking for any
news  about school shootings. Some of them were even so afraid of
schools that they joined Marine Corps at the age of 17. BTW nothing
other then scolinophobia can explain their lack of basic education and
elementary reading skills.

>There are
> definite signs of xenophobia though. A few of them seem particularly
> conscious of the French for some reason.
Just curious how many of Metoos can show France on a map or
distinguish French language from let's say Romanian.

Janusz
JOF - 15 Mar 2008 23:36 GMT
On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> > On Mar 15, 12:36 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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>  Just curious how many of Metoos can show France on a map or
> distinguish French language from let's say Romanian.

As long as there's a oui or non in it they'll figger they got it
nailed. What else is there to know?

JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 17 Mar 2008 18:57 GMT
On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On 15 Mar, 21:11, JOF <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> Just curious how many of Metoos can show France on a map or
> distinguish French language from let's say Romanian.

As long as there's a oui or non in it they'll figger they got it
nailed. What else is there to know?

   Most Americans can find France on the map- many of our servicemen have
died there.

   Who cares about various languages and dialects?

   We speak English, the most important language in the world, and don't
need to speak any other.

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JOF - 17 Mar 2008 21:20 GMT
On Mar 17, 1:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>     Most Americans can find France on the map- many of our servicemen have
> died there.

Don't get Scott started again. We know that many of your countrymen
have died, and are dying as we speak, all over the world in military
actions. It's one of the things that could earn huge respect for
Americans internationally, if not for some of you taking too much
delight in demeaning those who might otherwise be inclined to show
gratitude. It's that offensive posture again.

>     Who cares about various languages and dialects?

All the folks who speak them.

>     We speak English, the most important language in the world, and don't
> need to speak any other.

At least until some Asian language comes to the top of the heap in
international business etc. All good things must end. At the moment
about twice as many folks speak Mandarin as speak English as their
first language, though it's not considered a major player in
international business, yet. Spanish has been in the running but won't
likely beat out whatever language comes out of Asia.

But you're probably right. As long as you stay sheltered in your
shrinking stronghold of linguistic ignorance you'll need nothing but
English in it's ever-changing forms.

JF
Greg Mossman - 18 Mar 2008 04:47 GMT
> Don't get Scott started again. We know that many of your countrymen
> have died, and are dying as we speak, all over the world in military
> actions. It's one of the things that could earn huge respect for
> Americans internationally, if not for some of you taking too much
> delight in demeaning those who might otherwise be inclined to show
> gratitude. It's that offensive posture again.

Speaking of which, and to go on topic for a change, I just came from
diving at one of those places where lots of my countrymen died in a
military action.

Not knowing much about the Battle of Peleliu, but wanting to get off
the boat, I gave up one dive on Peleliu's West Wall in favor of a land
tour.  We were picked up at the dock by the famous Tangie and given a
road tour of the island with stops at the memorial at Orange Beach,
the museum, and a drive around the airfield, but we didn't have time
to make it to Bloody Nose Ridge.

The Battle seemed similar to the Iraq War: a promise that the mission
would be accomplished by a easy "3 day" land invasion following a
bombing campaign that flattened the entire island.  Instead, based on
a mistake regarding the tide tables, and the lack of intel on the
myriad tunnel complexes that the Japanese hid inside as they waited
out the bombing, the poor Marines suffered 1,100 casualties upon
landing on the island.  Over the next two months, and in 115-degree
heat, the Marines finally took the island, but not until suffering
6,500 casualties by the 1st Marine Division and 3,000 more casualties
by the 81st Infantry.

Like the Iraq War, the Battle was almost completely unnecessary:  "The
battle was controversial due to its lack of strategic value. The
airfield captured on Peleliu was of little use for the attack on the
Philippines. The island was never used for a staging operation in
subsequent invasions; the Ulithi Atoll, in the Caroline Islands north
of the Palaus, was used as a staging base for the invasion of Okinawa.
In addition, few news reports were made on the battle. Due to
Rupertus' "3 days" prediction, only six reporters bothered coming
ashore. The battle was overshadowed by MacArthur's return to the
Philippines and the Allies push towards Germany in Europe. It was said
the only useful aspect of the battle was the experience gained in
battling the heavily fortified positions across the island. Japan
would use these tactics with even greater success at Iwo Jima and
Okinawa, inflicting the worst casualties of the Pacific War on the
Marines and soldiers."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu

Fortunately we faced much better landing conditions than the Marines
as we used the harbor instead of crashing over the reef in LVTs, the
weather was in the upper 80s instead of 115 degrees, and the only
things sniping at us were mosquitos.  Tangie's van doesn't have A/C,
so we left the door open as I snapped lots of pictures.  Said pictures
are downloading to DVD as I speak and then will be transferred to the
web, along with all the underwater stuff.

The memorial at Orange Beach was our first stop, with Tangie
describing the battle and giving his profused teary-eyed thanks to
"our beloved Americans".  I've met quite a few people now from Peleliu
and they all spoke good English.  Tangie's accent is hilarious and I
thought it odd that off all Peleliuans, he would be the one to give
the tour.  It turns out that he is the one-man Peleliu welcoming
committee, having started his trade originally by displaying the war
artifacts he collected on the island in an ad-hoc museum.  Today he
coordinates memorial anniversaries, visits by returning veterans, and
documentary crews, along with providing tours to the handful of
tourists that make it out that way.  Peleliu is sort of off the beaten
track, but Tangie seems to be doing well.  He pointed out his house
along the tour and his is by far one of the nicest homes on the
island.

The original Japanese airfield, the main reason for the invasion, was
originally destroyed by the American bombing, then rebuilt for
American use and eventually for Palauans by a small now-defunct
airline (their only plane crashed).  Today it's overgrown with weeds
and potholed.  The only standard way onto the island is by boat.

The museum is filled with lots of recovered artifacts from the Battle,
along with photographs, letters from Battle survivors, and handwritten
accounts of various Battle campaigns.  We saw several Japanese bunkers
along the road, as well as the remains of a Japanese tank and a Marine
LVT.  The jungle has reclaimed the unpopulated portions of the island
to the point you can't tell it was ever obliterated.  Photos of the
bare island from WWII are a stark contrast to the verdant green
existing today.

We visited a nifty little resort that would make a nice getaway from
the bustle of Koror on a future dive trip, and were shown taro
plantations, some pigs that didn't look or smell very happy in their
small pens, papaya trees, and he explained the various botanical uses
of the noni tree, ranging from digestif to abortifacient.  Then, on
the road back, we narrowly squeezed between the vehicles of two pot
farmers whose owners had left them blocking the road as they snoozed
on the ground beside them.  Quite the adventure in our little 2-hour
tour.

Back on the boat, we prepared to dive Orange Beach.  Instead of
crashing over the reef, we skirted through a cut and dropped into a
coral terrain between 40-60 feet of depth, filled with egg-guarding
anenomefish, sweetlips, and the myriad other species of reef fish that
make Palau justifiably famous.  The current was light for a change.
Corals weren't as spectacular as other sites, but then other sites
weren't the site of a major beach landing.  There were artifacts to be
found, but due to the current we didn't drift as far as the area where
they were usually spotted; besides, it was a photo trip and fish make
more interesting underwater shots than bullets.

We dove Orange Beach again at night, and it was easily the best night
dive of the trip, the flat terrain and spotty coral perfect terrain
for little critters.  Unfortunately this time we did have a stiff
current and it made shooting macro a painful experience.  I wasted
half my air trying to get an itty-bitty scorpionfish and ended up
ascending early, losing Janna in the process since I hit a current
going in the opposite direction as I started my safety stop.  I
drifted about a mile before ascending, while in the meantime the boat
was following the divers drifting in the opposite direction.  Being
alone under the millions of start, floating over the ghosts of dead
Marines, watching the plankton sparkle below, was a beautiful moment
of solitude, but I ended up breaking the mood and lighting up my twin
strobes like searchlights to get the dinghy driver's attention and
didn't even need to beep the Dive Alert.  The Aggressor runs a very
professional boat and even installed EPRBs on at least one diver of
every buddy team; unfortunately for me, the EPRB went on the buddy who
was still down with the group, but it was a nice thought.

After getting picked up in one direction it was amazing to see how
fast the rest of the group went in the other direction.  What a crazy
night dive.  I blame it on the ghosts.

The next day we dove Peleliu's West Wall.  While lacking the historic
significance of Orange Beach, the West Wall boasts awesome viz and a
straight-down drop to the abyss.  Again we were blessed with slack
current.  This time I warned Janna to stay with the guide, since I
planned to go deep to hunt leopard sharks and I didn't want to shorten
her dive.  Of course as soon as I hit 115', there she was behind me
tapping my shoulder.  OK, whatever.  It's probably better to have a
buddy when diving that deep anyway, I suppose.  Off we went down the
wall.

For a change I noticed it was very quite underwater, not another diver
in site and that was rare for the Aggressor with 17 divers on our
skiff.  There were a couple turtles and a white tip or two, but no
leopard sharks.  Beautiful sea fans hanging off the wall, though, so I
shot a few to practice my wide-angle.  At some point I recalled the
words of the guide during the briefing telling us that the wall was
supposed to be on the right, and we had spend the last 20 minutes
kicking slowly with the wall on our left.  Oops.  That's the problem
with current-free drift dives: you actually have to remember all that
complicated dive plan stuff instead of just jumping in the water and
going with the flow.

So we kicked back at a brisker pace for 15 minutes, catching up with
the tail end of the group.  I got bored in the shallows without wide-
angle stuff to shoot, so I ascended and helped the dinghy driver check
out the sunning bikini clad girls on a boat moored nearby.  No one
else in the group saw any leopard sharks, so my misguided direction
finding didn't seem to hurt and the solitude was nice for a change
even though I wasn't able to shake my buddy and truly get alone.

After that, it was back north toward Koror and all the dive sites in
between.  Our Peleliu trip was over, but not to be forgotten soon.

[Trip report for the rest of Palau to follow in a separate thread.]
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 20 Mar 2008 03:37 GMT
On Mar 17, 1:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> > Just curious how many of Metoos can show France on a map or
> > distinguish French language from let's say Romanian.
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> Most Americans can find France on the map- many of our servicemen have
> died there.

Don't get Scott started again. We know that many of your countrymen
have died, and are dying as we speak, all over the world in military
actions. It's one of the things that could earn huge respect for
Americans internationally, if not for some of you taking too much
delight in demeaning those who might otherwise be inclined to show
gratitude. It's that offensive posture again.

   American haters are American haters, and always have been.

   It's jealousy and angst.

   Witness Dechucka and jAnus.

> Who cares about various languages and dialects?

All the folks who speak them.

   Good for them.

   It's nothing to me, though.

> We speak English, the most important language in the world, and don't
> need to speak any other.

At least until some Asian language comes to the top of the heap in
international business etc. All good things must end. At the moment
about twice as many folks speak Mandarin as speak English as their
first language,

 But about half of them can't tell time, and a significant number of them
live in the stone age.

 I'm not yet quakin'

though it's not considered a major player in
international business, yet. Spanish has been in the running but won't
likely beat out whatever language comes out of Asia.

But you're probably right. As long as you stay sheltered in your
shrinking stronghold of linguistic ignorance you'll need nothing but
English in it's ever-changing forms.

   That's the usual boldly hypocritical statement for an a.shole who can't
speak both the official languages of his -own- fuckin country.

JF

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dechucka - 20 Mar 2008 03:57 GMT
> On Mar 17, 1:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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>
>    American haters are American haters, and always have been.

you are paranoid

>    It's jealousy and angst.

I am jealous about what?

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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 20 Mar 2008 09:37 GMT
>> On Mar 17, 1:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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>
> you are paranoid

 Like your repeated denials that you never post anything AA?

 Even though it's 85% of your posting content?

 Sure.

>>    It's jealousy and angst.
>
> I am jealous about what?

 Well, I don't remember anybody mentioning you, but it's nice of you to
take ownership of the remark.

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JOF - 20 Mar 2008 15:29 GMT
On Mar 19, 10:37 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 1:57 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
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>
>     Witness Dechucka and jAnus.

We're making progress. A while back I was included in that list. I
suppose you figured out how inane that sounded to my American friends
here.

> > Who cares about various languages and dialects?
>
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>
>   I'm not yet quakin'

Then you're a fool. Not because you're not "quakin'" but because
you're own brand of national hubris has you blinded to what's
happening in your own world.

> though it's not considered a major player in
> international business, yet. Spanish has been in the running but won't
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>     That's the usual boldly hypocritical statement for an a.shole who can't
> speak both the official languages of his -own- fuckin country.

That's not hypocrisy, just mere happenstance. We have two national
languages because we have two principal language backgrounds and the
majority of the French speakers are located well east of here, and
some well west. Where I live there's no need to speak French except in
French class at school. I can still struggle by with my high school
French but I'm certainly better at reading than speaking it. If we had
a French speaking community here, like Ottawa for instance, I'd have
to be a whole lot better at it if only for my business.

Besides, if I was fluent in French you'd be all over me for pandering
to a "bunch of cowards". As with so many of the  things we argue
about, there's little chance of winning with you, and not because
you're always right. You simply change the context to suit your
vituperation of the moment. That's why I've so often referred to your
"fertile" mind. It can't be easy to switch from being a totally
charming generous guy to being such a total prick with the facility
you do.

JF
Greg Mossman - 20 Mar 2008 15:43 GMT
> It can't be easy to switch from being a totally
> charming generous guy to being such a total prick with the facility
> you do.

Normally it takes 3 years of law school.
JOF - 20 Mar 2008 15:52 GMT
> > It can't be easy to switch from being a totally
> > charming generous guy to being such a total prick with the facility
> > you do.
>
> Normally it takes 3 years of law school.

But lawyers are paid to be that way. They're smart enough to get
something tangible for their talent.

JF
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 22:46 GMT
> On Mar 19, 10:37 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
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> >     That's the usual boldly hypocritical statement for an a.shole who can't
> > speak both the official languages of his -own- fuckin country.

Quite interesting. I'm only curious if Douggy knows that there is no
official language in his own ..... country?

Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 17 Mar 2008 23:30 GMT
On 17 Mar, 18:57, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>     Most Americans can find France on the map
Can you?

>- many of our servicemen have
> died there.
FYI and many from other countries, too

>     Who cares about various languages and dialects?
Such guys are called educated ones

>     We speak English,
I'm sorry the lingo you speak maybe is based on English, but can't be
considered as English

the most important language in the world, and don't
> need to speak any other.

You remind me some nasty stories of dumb Americans visiting Europe
(small clarification I don't consider all Americans dumb - only small,
uneducated minority, which unfortunately is also too loud). Usually
people in Europe consider others "Intelligent until proven stupid".
Thanks to idiots like you Americans all over the world are considered
"stupid until proven intelligent".

Janusz
dechucka - 19 Mar 2008 23:45 GMT
> On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>    Most Americans can find France on the map

r u sure?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 20 Mar 2008 00:02 GMT
>> On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>
> r u sure?

 They can spell "are" and "you" as well.

 Besides, if we need to know where France is, we just ask the Germans.

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dechucka - 20 Mar 2008 00:06 GMT
>>> On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>
>  They can spell "are" and "you" as well.

r u sure?

>  Besides, if we need to know where France is, we just ask the Germans.

Why? by the way have you got French fries back on the menu or are they still
freedom fries
Scott - 20 Mar 2008 01:49 GMT
>   Besides, if we need to know where France is, we just ask the Germans.

*****
dechucka - 20 Mar 2008 01:56 GMT
>>   Besides, if we need to know where France is, we just ask the Germans.
>
> *****

the most intelligent thing you have ever posted
Grumman-581 - 20 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT
>   They can spell "are" and "you" as well.

Well, except for Gen-Slacker...

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 09:58 GMT
> > On Mar 15, 6:15 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
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>
> r u sure?

Only it it is written "France" in capital letters. Do you remember
that clip about Americans showing Australia as  North Korea and Iran?

Janusz
Grumman-581 - 20 Mar 2008 18:29 GMT
> Only it it is written "France" in capital letters. Do you remember that
> clip about Americans showing Australia as  North Korea and Iran?

If you interview enough people, you'll get some like that regardless of
which country you are interviewing... If you are wanting to show how
geographical knowledge challenged a particular group of people are, you
just edit out all the ones who got the answer right and only show what you
wanted to show in the first place... Ask enough people and eventually you
will find some idiots that you can use to claim that the entire population
conforms to to the results that you intended to get in the first place...
Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
your own country that can't point it out on a map...

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Scott - 20 Mar 2008 20:03 GMT
> Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
> your own country that can't point it out on a map...

Especially after you remove the swastika and the hammer and sickle...
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 22:57 GMT
> > Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
> > your own country that can't point it out on a map...
>
> Especially after you remove the swastika and the hammer and sickle...

Just perfect example of uneducated redneck.

Janusz
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 21 Mar 2008 00:12 GMT
>> Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
>> your own country that can't point it out on a map...
>
> Especially after you remove the swastika and the hammer and sickle...

 Ouch.

 :-)

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Scott - 21 Mar 2008 01:08 GMT
> > "Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message

news:pan.2008.03.20.17.28.57.531000@grumman581-usenet-2008-spambob-net...

> >> Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
> >> your own country that can't point it out on a map...

> > Especially after you remove the swastika and the hammer and sickle...

>   Ouch.

>   :-)

The current flag looks like a spin-off of Bill Ruger....
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 21 Mar 2008 10:00 GMT
On 21 Mar, 00:12, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> >> Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
> >> your own country that can't point it out on a map...
>
> > Especially after you remove the swastika and the hammer and sickle...
>
>   Ouch.

Yes, idiocy is painful.

Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2008 22:55 GMT
> > Only it it is written "France" in capital letters. Do you remember that
> > clip about Americans showing Australia as  North Korea and Iran?
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> Hell, with a bit of effort, you could probably get a video of people in
> your own country that can't point it out on a map...
Maybe you are right, but in some countries it is much easier to find
such people. Just look at the rec.scuba population and tell where are
the idiots from ;-))).

Janusz
Joe English - 21 Mar 2008 02:38 GMT
>>>Only it it is written "France" in capital letters. Do you remember that
>>>clip about Americans showing Australia as  North Korea and Iran?
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>
> Janusz

from the posts we see here - Poland
Grumman-581 - 21 Mar 2008 05:33 GMT
> Maybe you are right, but in some countries it is much easier to find such
> people. Just look at the rec.scuba population and tell where are the
> idiots from ;-))).

As a general rule, they are located north of I-10, but there are a couple
of exceptions... <grin>

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 21 Mar 2008 10:03 GMT
On 21 Mar, 05:33, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net>
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> > Maybe you are right, but in some countries it is much easier to find such
> > people. Just look at the rec.scuba population and tell where are the
> > idiots from ;-))).
>
> As a general rule, they are located north of I-10, but there are a couple
> of exceptions... <grin>

LOL

Janusz
dechucka - 14 Mar 2008 00:51 GMT
>>>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> no typo just another third world country delusion it has now been fixed
> properly

America isn't that bad
Joe English - 14 Mar 2008 01:12 GMT
>>>>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> America isn't that bad

here on the good side of the pond - we already now that
dechucka - 14 Mar 2008 01:38 GMT
>>>>>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> America isn't that bad

good country ruined by the immigrants

> here on the good side of the pond - we already now that
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 13 Mar 2008 13:41 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> I try to stay away from your type - but thanks for playing

Good to know. I'm much more comfortable, now.  BTW when are you going
to Africa?

Janusz
Joe English - 13 Mar 2008 22:50 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Janusz
your comprehension could use some work - try to keep up
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 14 Mar 2008 13:21 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> your comprehension could use some work - try to keep up
My comprehension?  It was you who said something about avoiding my
type and it's very good information for me as it means - Joe English
is not going to Europe. That's the reason I'm much more comfortable.
On the other hand you expressed your feelings/dreams about pre-law ape
societies. AFAIK you can find them in Africa, in places where gorillas
and chimpanzees are roaming freely. That's my question was about your
trip and as so far there is no answer. Of course you can also stay in
your beloved country and harass Bigfoot, but I think that the creature
would not have as much patience for you as I have.

Janusz
Joe English - 14 Mar 2008 23:41 GMT
>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> type and it's very good information for me as it means - Joe English
> is not going to Europe.

Not Europe you idiot, Africa - please try to keep up

Poland would be the 3rd last place I would visit
Scott - 15 Mar 2008 01:39 GMT
> Not Europe you idiot, Africa - please try to keep up
>
> Poland would be the 3rd last place I would visit

I wouldnt be so hasty;

A couple of the old guys at the VFW say the Polish chicks are easy and
tight.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Mar 2008 05:34 GMT
>> Not Europe you idiot, Africa - please try to keep up
>>
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> A couple of the old guys at the VFW say the Polish chicks are easy and
> tight.

 Probably like Aussie chicks-

 Once you get past that first two or three inches that's worn out, they
tighten up pretty good.