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Jim - 01 Mar 2008 23:07 GMT Thought you lot might be interested by this potential technology.
Respirocytes will be tiny gas exchange nanomachines. So named, since their initial design was planned to simulate erythrocytes (ie inject into bloodstream and being able to absorb CO2 and give off oxygen).
Potential medical uses are huge - think of an antidote to asphyxia, carbon monoxide poisoning etc.
So why the relevance to diving?
Well, different respirocytes could be designed to mop up nitrogen from the blood rather than carbon dioxide. And that could eliminate the bends and totally transform deep diving.
Check out this overview here:
http://dev.nsta.org/evwebs/10955/index.html
They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an impact in a lot of fields.
Scott - 02 Mar 2008 15:34 GMT > Thought you lot might be interested by this potential technology. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an > impact in a lot of fields. Very intriguing.
My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer...
Joe English - 02 Mar 2008 16:04 GMT > Very intriguing. > > My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer... How old is he Scott, was he a smoker?
Scott - 02 Mar 2008 17:34 GMT > How old is he Scott, was he a smoker? 58 and yes.
Joe English - 02 Mar 2008 18:11 GMT >>How old is he Scott, was he a smoker? > > 58 and yes. 58 is pretty young
mat.voss - 02 Mar 2008 19:20 GMT >>> How old is he Scott, was he a smoker? >> >> 58 and yes. >> > 58 is pretty young I second that! Especially since 3 days. ;-)
Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 02 Mar 2008 19:07 GMT > > Thought you lot might be interested by this potential technology. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer... Next one?
"Come on. My dad died at 53, he smoked Camel studs for 30 years, Post mortem said it was obvious that he was a smoker, and not a smoker of lights."- Scott on 30 AUG 2004
Janusz
mat.voss - 02 Mar 2008 19:25 GMT >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an >>>impact in a lot of fields. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Janusz You completely misunderstand the concept of "dad", as in Scott' wording.
Alas, no wonder, given the choice of motorcycles and society you iron curtained suffered from.
Matthias
Scott - 02 Mar 2008 19:59 GMT > You completely misunderstand the concept of "dad", as in Scott' wording. > > Alas, no wonder, given the choice of motorcycles and society you iron > curtained suffered from. Don't bother engaging the worthless coward, I wasn't/wont address him.
People who matter know.
George Cathcart - 02 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Matthias What does "dad" mean on Scott's planet?
gc
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 19:01 GMT > > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > gc difficult to say and unfortunately we don't have professional psychiatrist here to explain meanders of Scott's "thoughts" and "origin" Janusz
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 03 Mar 2008 20:37 GMT >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > gc More hero worship/ leg humping from George the Master, who also decries off-topic posting.
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George Cathcart - 03 Mar 2008 22:43 GMT On Mar 3, 3:37 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> >> janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com And dogpile is right on cue with a reacharound and, of course, nothing of substance to say.
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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 04 Mar 2008 14:36 GMT > On Mar 3, 3:37 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > And dogpile is right on cue with a reacharound and, of course, nothing > of substance to say. And that may be true.
But what's more amazing is your hypocrisy.
Because what you've described as my "lack of substance reach-a-round" is -precisely- what your contribution was-
In addition to what you've previously described as "hero worship".
At least I has responding on behalf of a good friend- your reach-a-round goes to jAnus- a known and documented Jew-hater.
Classy.
It shows where and how you hang out in the gutter.
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Scott - 04 Mar 2008 22:35 GMT > And that may be true.
> But what's more amazing is your hypocrisy.
> Because what you've described as my "lack of substance reach-a-round" > is -precisely- what your contribution was-
> In addition to what you've previously described as "hero worship".
> At least I has responding on behalf of a good friend- your reach-a-round > goes to jAnus- a known and documented Jew-hater. Anyone, just anyone, to help him be all the punk he can be.
Birds of a feather and all.
> Classy.
> It shows where and how you hang out in the gutter. janusz_w@hotmail.com - 05 Mar 2008 07:27 GMT > > And that may be true. > > But what's more amazing is your hypocrisy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Anyone, just anyone, to help him be all the punk he can be. Nobody has to help Douggy. He is doing well on his own.
Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 18:57 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Matthias And you forgot to add that we didn't have Magnus Hirschfeld, so many "dad" family concept is unknown for us.
Janusz
mat.voss - 03 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Janusz Huh. You've got catholic priests by numbers. Not that it was in any form comparable, butt since you mentioned your obsession...
Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 06:12 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Huh. You've got catholic priests by numbers. Not that it was in any form > comparable, butt since you mentioned your obsession... And many of them found comfortable life in your country. BTW you seem to be ossessed with catholic priests. Childhood experience?
Janusz
dechucka - 04 Mar 2008 04:29 GMT >>>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an >>>>impact in a lot of fields. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You completely misunderstand the concept of "dad", as in Scott' wording. I gather that Scott's dad is whoever is living in the trailer with his mom
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 06:14 GMT > > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I gather that Scott's dad is whoever is living in the trailer with his mom another "dad" another 50$?
Janusz
mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 10:32 GMT >>>>>They're only an idea at the moment, but they could have a hell of an >>>>>impact in a lot of fields. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I gather that Scott's dad is whoever is living in the trailer with his mom Try again. Matthias
rocket - 03 Mar 2008 15:44 GMT > "Come on. My dad died at 53, he smoked Camel studs for 30 years, Post > mortem > said it was obvious that he was a smoker, and not a smoker of > lights."- Scott on 30 AUG 2004 That's known as a Scottism. ie. BS. He sometimes forgets what he said and when he said it.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 19:05 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That's known as a Scottism. ie. BS. > He sometimes forgets what he said and when he said it. Maybe poor Scott had really traumatic childhood. Like new "dad" every day. ;-)
Janusz
mat.voss - 03 Mar 2008 21:15 GMT >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Maybe poor Scott had really traumatic childhood. Like new "dad" every > day. ;-) He might have had one in Hannover, Germany, if he lived there. Enough food for thought now?
Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 06:18 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Matthias Hannover red-light district?
Janusz
mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 10:35 GMT >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Hannover red-light district? Hannover lacks here. Any decent.
Matthias
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 12:04 GMT Couple class acts, ole Anus and upchuck.
Go right straight to the shittiest things they can say, attacking people they know less than nothing about, one of whom is dying of cancer, the other a little old lady, because they are the very definition of punk, lowlife and scumbag.
It is good to know that I have managed to motivate them to be all they can be, for all to see.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 21:25 GMT > Couple class acts, ole Anus and upchuck. > > Go right straight to the shittiest things they can say, attacking people > they know less than nothing about, one of whom is dying of cancer, the other > a little old lady, because they are the very definition of punk, lowlife and > scumbag. Scotty, you are really bad boy. So far it's you and your stupidity under attack, not a man who is dying of cancer or little old lady even if according to your own words "they are the very definition of punk, lowlife and scumbag".
Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 21:18 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Hannover lacks here. > Any decent. So why have you mentioned Hannover, not Hamburg?
Janusz
mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 22:21 GMT >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > So why have you mentioned Hannover, not Hamburg? It's the biggest.
Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 05 Mar 2008 07:33 GMT > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > It's the biggest. But still "more "dads" in Hamburg
Janusz
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 01:02 GMT > > "Come on. My dad died at 53, he smoked Camel studs for 30 years, Post > > mortem [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's known as a Scottism. ie. BS. > He sometimes forgets what he said and when he said it. Hey Carl.
Ready to lose another account, you piece of sh.t?
Dillon Pyron - 03 Mar 2008 04:06 GMT [Default] Thus spake "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com>:
>> Thought you lot might be interested by this potential technology. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer... sh.t.
I won't mention the x-rays I took two weeks ago.
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 06:57 GMT > sh.t. > > I won't mention the x-rays I took two weeks ago. One of the problems of going to see a doctor is that you find out things that you probably didn't want to know...
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Scott - 03 Mar 2008 14:21 GMT > >Very intriguing.
> >My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer...
> sh.t.
> I won't mention the x-rays I took two weeks ago. I assume/hope it wasn't of you.
Yeah, it's a bad scene. The main tumor in his neck has metastasized and it is into his lungs and kidneys as well.
He just had all his teeth pulled and they are fitting him for a mask to protect what they can during radiation.
f.cking cigarettes kill more people in more horrible ways than any firearm ever invented, but you don't hear the lefties here or anywhere else screaming bloody murder for tobacco control legislation.
Greg Mossman - 03 Mar 2008 15:45 GMT > > >Very intriguing. > > >My dad has recently been diagnosed with lung cancer... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ever invented, but you don't hear the lefties here or anywhere else > screaming bloody murder for tobacco control legislation. Funny, one of your fellow right-winger racists here actually denies the connection between smoking and lung cancer.
It's "lefties" like me that pushed for surgeon general warnings, banning tobacco advertisements, taxing cigarette sales so high that no one can afford to smoke and giving the proceeds toward child health insurance, eliminating smoke from restaurants and bars and workplaces and just about anywhere else. There are communities in California where you cannot even light up in the street or in your own home if you have shared walls (apartment or condo) or in your own backyard.
It's the right-wingers that are paid and delivered by the tobacco companies as usual. Get the facts right before you mouth off and you won't look like such a moron.
Jim - 03 Mar 2008 22:13 GMT > > "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > companies as usual. Get the facts right before you mouth off and you > won't look like such a moron. sheesh!
I try and post something that I think might be interesting for divers, and the only comments I get descend into a political diatribe!
To Scott, sorry about your dad.
To the argumentists, wallow in your sh.t, please.
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 22:30 GMT > sheesh! > > I try and post something that I think might be interesting for divers, and > the only comments I get descend into a political diatribe! All threads morph into sex, politics, or firearm related threads eventually... If you don't like it, feel free to create your own newsgroup and talk to yourself... <grin>
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Jim - 03 Mar 2008 22:33 GMT On Mar 3, 10:30 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> > sheesh! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be nice to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :)
Jim - 03 Mar 2008 22:34 GMT > On Mar 3, 10:30 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be > nice to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :) s/1/2/g s/thread/message/g drinking too much beer :)
Grumman-581 - 03 Mar 2008 23:31 GMT >> yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be nice >> to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :) > > s/1/2/g s/thread/message/g drinking too much beer :) So, instead of 1 out of 23, you would prefer 2 out of 13...
Not that much of a difference...
Maybe you should build your own home news server and not get any external news feeds for it... Assuming that you can stay on topic while talking to yourself, you should be fine... *Assuming*... <snicker>
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Jim - 03 Mar 2008 23:51 GMT On Mar 3, 11:31 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> >> yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be nice > >> to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :) > > > s/1/2/g s/thread/message/g drinking too much beer :) > > So, instead of 1 out of 23, you would prefer 2 out of 13... ok - couple more beers in me now, but you're still WRONG... :)
> Not that much of a difference... > > Maybe you should build your own home news server and not get any external > news feeds for it... Assuming that you can stay on topic while talking to > yourself, you should be fine... *Assuming*... <snicker> maybe.. at least I'd be guaranteed of a decent converstion. pedant fuckhead
Grumman-581 - 04 Mar 2008 00:08 GMT > ok - couple more beers in me now, but you're still WRONG... :) No, I'm right... You said "s/1/2/g" and from the previous post, that would replace both the '2' with '1' and the '23' with '13'... If you're going to use sed expressions, learn how they work...
> maybe.. at least I'd be guaranteed of a decent converstion. pedant > fuckhead And your mother dresses you funny...
Well, now that we've got introductions out of the way, what type of beer are you drinking?
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Jim - 04 Mar 2008 00:46 GMT On Mar 4, 12:08 am, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> > ok - couple more beers in me now, but you're still WRONG... :) > > No, I'm right... You said "s/1/2/g" and from the previous post, that would > replace both the '2' with '1' and the '23' with '13'... If you're going to > use sed expressions, learn how they work... actually I think you need a tutorial - check here http://www.gnulamp.com/sed.html maybe start at the section entitled "the substitute command"
> > maybe.. at least I'd be guaranteed of a decent converstion. pedant > > fuckhead > > And your mother dresses you funny... trying to think of a witty comeback... ok. I can't. How about *failed* pedant fuckhead.....
> Well, now that we've got introductions out of the way, what type of beer > are you drinking? Stella. aka "wife beater" although to be fair, she's fallen asleep by herself tonight. It's marked 5.2% on the can - I think your pissy American lagers pale into submission, no ?
> -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. Grumman-581 - 04 Mar 2008 01:17 GMT > trying to think of a witty comeback... ok. I can't. How about *failed* > pedant fuckhead..... I would have to say that you are probably the first person to ever call me a *pedant* fuckhead... Must be that quality educational system you have over there in London...
> Stella. aka "wife beater" although to be fair, she's fallen asleep by > herself tonight. It's marked 5.2% on the can - I think your pissy > American lagers pale into submission, no ? We have some good beers over here... We also have some spectacularly *bad* beers... I haven't ever tried Stella Artois -- figured it was too light for my taste... I prefer a beer that is very dark... If you hold the glass up to the sun and you can see through it, it's not dark enough in my opinion... Guinness and Mackesons is good... Over here, we have an Abita TurboDog (6.1% ABV, IIRC) that is right up there from a taste standpoint with Guinness in flavor... Guinness of course varies on its potency depending upon which of the brews that you can get... The Special Export has a pretty good ABV, IIRC...
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Jim - 04 Mar 2008 01:41 GMT On Mar 4, 1:17 am, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> > trying to think of a witty comeback... ok. I can't. How about *failed* > > pedant fuckhead..... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself...
but you've skipped over the point....... were you wrong about sed... or don't you wanna own up to that :)
Grumman-581 - 04 Mar 2008 04:19 GMT > that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself... Nawh, if I want to drink piss water, we've got plenty of those types of beers here in the States that would classify... I don't need to pay extra for *premium* piss water... I'll take a good dark ale any day...
> but you've skipped over the point....... were you wrong about sed... or > don't you wanna own up to that :) OK, I just looked back at what I typed... Hmmm... Should I blame it on it being an Alzheimer's Moment, impending dyslexia, insufficient caffeine in my system, excessive alcohol in my system, or the fact that my mother died today? f.ck you and your inbred little island...
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Jim - 04 Mar 2008 08:33 GMT On Mar 4, 4:19 am, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> > that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. or how about we just put it down to the fact that you're a failed f.cking pedant... :)
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 04 Mar 2008 14:43 GMT >> that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > my system, excessive alcohol in my system, or the fact that my mother died > today? f.ck you and your inbred little island... Sorry about your Mom, Mike.
f.ck him and his inbred little island.
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Grumman-581 - 04 Mar 2008 15:01 GMT > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in NW Louisiana on Friday...
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chilly - 04 Mar 2008 15:31 GMT > > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > > Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... My most sincere condolences.
Greg Mossman - 04 Mar 2008 17:52 GMT > > > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > > > Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > > NW Louisiana on Friday... > > My most sincere condolences. Me too.
Mike from Ottawa - 04 Mar 2008 22:38 GMT >> > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. >> >> Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in >> NW Louisiana on Friday... > >My most sincere condolences. You got mine, too, Mike.
Lee Bell - 04 Mar 2008 18:04 GMT > She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... Sorry to hear it. Our condolences.
Lee & Jayna
Grumman-581 - 08 Mar 2008 09:15 GMT > Sorry to hear it. Our condolences. > > Lee & Jayna Thanks everyone...
Snow and rain make for a more interesting funeral... Especially all of the people who thought that the original weather forecast was going to be accurate... Hell, it only snows up here every 10 years or so... Women soon found out that high heels do not work well on ground that has seen so much moisture to become nearly swamp... They dress up for it and go away with muddy pants legs because their heels sunk down a couple of inches... Kind of funny from a warped sense of humor point of view... I guess my mother got the last laugh on all of them...
Got to see a lot of my cousins that I hadn't seen in many years... You don't really notice yourself aging that much over the years, but when you see someone that you remember from many years ago and see how they've changed, it really impresses upon you how old you're getting... When you see a cousin who was close to your age who is now a grandfather, it really hits you that perhaps you really are getting old...
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mag3 - 08 Mar 2008 11:34 GMT >Snow and rain make for a more interesting funeral... Especially all of >the people who thought that the original weather forecast was going to be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >of funny from a warped sense of humor point of view... I guess my mother >got the last laugh on all of them... I hear ya. Each one that I attended for my paternal grandparents were held in extreme seasons in Washington DC. For Grandad, in mid February in the middle of a snowstorm, and for his widow, roughly 2 1/3 years later in the height of summer heat in June. I don't think that either "planned" it that way, but the result is what it is.
>Got to see a lot of my cousins that I hadn't seen in many years... You >don't really notice yourself aging that much over the years, but when you >see someone that you remember from many years ago and see how they've >changed, it really impresses upon you how old you're getting... When you >see a cousin who was close to your age who is now a grandfather, it really >hits you that perhaps you really are getting old... What's worse is when they make the same comment about you, to your face.... ____________________________________________ Regards,
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Mike from Ottawa - 11 Mar 2008 06:36 GMT >> Sorry to hear it. Our condolences. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >of funny from a warped sense of humor point of view... I guess my mother >got the last laugh on all of them... I went to my uncle's funeral in the Ottawa Valley on Saturday, the 9th. He was 81.
We just happened to have the biggest dump of snow this year over Saturday night and early Sunday morning. About 12" in that area, and 22" in Ottawa. We were stuck at my parents' place until 15:30 on Sunday, when we finally got plowed out. Made it home Sunday evening to a driveway with the biggest pile of drifted snow I've seen in a long time. Thank god for snowblowers. It reminded me of when my uncle and dad brought me and my cousin to my uncle's cottage, before it was insulated, in the middle of winter -- the parents were worried and worked hard to keep us from freezing to death, but my cousin & I just had a lot of fun.
I found out that my uncle had become lucid for a short time and told his kids that he was OK and being taken care of, and not to worry. He wanted them to let him go, and it sounds like it helped them.
My cousin said a few words at the church service and that had everyone choking up. No matter how ready you are, it's still a shock.
>Got to see a lot of my cousins that I hadn't seen in many years... You >don't really notice yourself aging that much over the years, but when you >see someone that you remember from many years ago and see how they've >changed, it really impresses upon you how old you're getting... When you >see a cousin who was close to your age who is now a grandfather, it really >hits you that perhaps you really are getting old... Ditto. I saw all my cousins and almost all of their kids -- some of the "kids" are approaching 30. Ouch.
dechucka - 11 Mar 2008 07:47 GMT >>> Sorry to hear it. Our condolences. >>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > My cousin said a few words at the church service and that had everyone > choking up. No matter how ready you are, it's still a shock. Just recently attended my Aunts funeral in Edmonton, wanted to see her one last time but thankfully speaking to people it was lucky that she didn't last till I could make it over. It was so cold but so white which was in many ways very beautiful and calming.
I don't recommend Regional flight to Sydney-Vancouver- Edmonton -Funeral- Vancouver ( same day evening flight) and than home. Emotionally and physically draining
Mike from Ottawa - 11 Mar 2008 21:58 GMT <snip>
>Just recently attended my Aunts funeral in Edmonton, wanted to see her one >last time but thankfully speaking to people it was lucky that she didn't >last till I could make it over. It was so cold but so white which was in >many ways very beautiful and calming. After 13.5' of this stuff, it loses its charm. Long ago.
>I don't recommend Regional flight to Sydney-Vancouver- Edmonton -Funeral- >Vancouver ( same day evening flight) and than home. Emotionally and >physically draining Chris Guynn - 04 Mar 2008 19:30 GMT > > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > > Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... My condolences.
I've been to two family funerals in the last week (my great uncle and Janeen's grandfather).
Other people dying sucks.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT On 4 Mar, 16:01, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote:
> > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. My condolences.
Janusz
mag3 - 04 Mar 2008 21:45 GMT >> Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > >Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in >NW Louisiana on Friday... Mike - Deepest sympathies. Let us know if we can do anything.
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mat.voss - 04 Mar 2008 22:15 GMT >> Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > > Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... Sincere condolences.
Matthias
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 22:33 GMT > > Sorry about your Mom, Mike. Me too.
Does that count wuth the lickspittles?
> Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... f.ck.
Al Wells - 04 Mar 2008 22:37 GMT In article <pan.2008.03.04.15.01.51.828000@grumman581-usenet-2008- spambob-net>, grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net says...
> Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday.. Our sincere condolences Mike
dazed and confuzzed - 04 Mar 2008 23:54 GMT >> Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > > Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in > NW Louisiana on Friday... Sorry about your mom, dude.
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Rod - 05 Mar 2008 00:33 GMT >> Sorry about your Mom, Mike. > >Thanks Doug... She died yesterday at around noon... Her funeral is up in >NW Louisiana on Friday... Terribly sorry about your mother, I know what that feels like.
Joe English - 05 Mar 2008 00:44 GMT >>> that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > f.ck him and his inbred little island. My sympathies - Gru
dechucka - 05 Mar 2008 00:48 GMT >> that's nice - I prefer a lighter lager myself... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > my system, excessive alcohol in my system, or the fact that my mother died > today? f.ck you and your inbred little island... I'm sorry mate
sh.t happens
Rod - 04 Mar 2008 02:47 GMT >> trying to think of a witty comeback... ok. I can't. How about *failed* >> pedant fuckhead..... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >depending upon which of the brews that you can get... The Special Export >has a pretty good ABV, IIRC... actually a bottle of bud works for me doesn't seem to interfear with the flavor of patron
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 01:19 GMT > Stella. aka "wife beater" although to be fair, she's fallen asleep by > herself tonight. It's marked 5.2% on the can - I think your pissy > American lagers pale into submission, no ? No.
Here in my state alone there are many microbreweries, some of them putting out *really* good barley water.
I don't drink Coors, Bud, Oly, etc.
When I drink beer, it is a microbrew, and it is good.
http://www.brewpubzone.com/States/Washington.html
Jim - 04 Mar 2008 01:43 GMT > > Stella. aka "wife beater" although to be fair, she's fallen asleep by > > herself tonight. It's marked 5.2% on the can - I think your pissy [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.brewpubzone.com/States/Washington.html don't see any percentages there (as we call them in the UK). So what kind of strength are they? unless I'm being stupid (read drunk) and can't see the strengths on that page.
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 03:14 GMT > > "Jim" <camden...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a0fa92e6-3b59-46ce-a83a-6fcd4653fab1@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > Stella. aka "wife beater" although to be fair, she's fallen asleep by > > > herself tonight. It's marked 5.2% on the can - I think your pissy [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > kind of strength are they? unless I'm being stupid (read drunk) and > can't see the strengths on that page. Here the server is obligated by law to only allow so many of certain beers to be served in a specific time period.
Some adhere to that, some don't.
What the actual content of alcohol is I don't know.
I can tell you that there are several that after two or three, I aint driving.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 04 Mar 2008 14:42 GMT > On Mar 3, 10:30 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be > nice to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :) You think that hypothetical nano-technology is on-topic posting for this newsgroup?
That says a lot.
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Chris Guynn - 04 Mar 2008 16:39 GMT > > On Mar 3, 10:30 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > That says a lot. Is he a diver?
Did he want to discuss hypothetical nano-technology?
If the answers to the above questions are both yes, then I'd say that it's very on topic. :-)
crownfield - 04 Mar 2008 18:53 GMT - -"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in -message news:13sqo0t8jb4ku46@news.supernews.com... -> "Jim" <camdenguy@hotmail.com> wrote in message -> news:34920bf2-ce6c-4b3d-995c-312bd2d62f1f@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... -> > On Mar 3, 10:30 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> -> > wrote: -> >> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:13:36 -0800, Jim wrote: -> >> > sheesh! -> >> -> >> > I try and post something that I think might be interesting for -divers, -> >> > and -> >> > the only comments I get descend into a political diatribe! -> >> -> >> All threads morph into sex, politics, or firearm related threads -> >> eventually... If you don't like it, feel free to create your own -> >> newsgroup -> >> and talk to yourself... <grin> -> >> -> >> -- -> >> See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. -> > -> > yeah - I know that - call me selfish or egocentric, but it would be -> > nice to have >1 thread on topic in a chain of 23... :) -> -> -> You think that hypothetical nano-technology is on-topic posting for this -> newsgroup? -> -> That says a lot. - -Is he a diver? - -Did he want to discuss hypothetical nano-technology?
does this hypothetical nanotechnology have potential for diving?
yes, yes, and yes.
-If the answers to the above questions are yes, then I'd say that it's -very on topic. :-) - - -
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Scott - 04 Mar 2008 01:06 GMT > sheesh! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > To the argumentists, wallow in your sh.t, please. No sweat, these parasites are always here looking for a way to be the bully they cant be in real life.
Your post was very interesting, and since I am up against the wall here with my Dad (I guess no one ever heard of a son of two fathers), and if they could pull this off and make it work, it could save literally thousands of doomed people.
I can see artificial lungs, the ability to save so many lives in so many ways, the implications are staggering if they can actually pull it off.
Greg Mossman - 04 Mar 2008 02:01 GMT > No sweat, these parasites are always here looking for a way to be the bully > they cant be in real life. In contrast to you, a real life bully?
> Your post was very interesting, and since I am up against the wall here with > my Dad (I guess no one ever heard of a son of two fathers), and if they > could pull this off and make it work, it could save literally thousands of > doomed people. Of course we've heard of a son with two fathers. There's nothing wrong with that, even though the "wisdom" of certain Boards of Education requires school libraries to pull books like "Why Johnnie has Two Daddies" from the shelves. It's a credit to rural hickdom that a son of two fathers could grow up to be such a macho bully.
Rod - 04 Mar 2008 02:52 GMT >> No sweat, these parasites are always here looking for a way to be the bull= >y [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >has Two Daddies" from the shelves. It's a credit to rural hickdom >that a son of two fathers could grow up to be such a macho bully. This came from where ? Greg ius your father alive or dead, healthy or Ill? Scott isn't a bully he is a repressed politician and someone that serverd.
Scott - 04 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT > This came from where ? His a.s, like 99% of the sh.t he posts here.
He doesnt believe half the sh.t he posts here, but posts it anyway.
> Greg is your father alive or dead, healthy or Ill? Scott isn't a > bully he is a repressed politician and someone that serverd. Doesn't matter, this nigger (remember I am slinging it at a white guy) has nothing to offer to anyone, unless you are an illegal alien, then he has a sub standard wage job with no bennies, no medical to offer so he can sell cheap sh.t at the stores he runs.
He takes the cheapest of shots, from the cheapest of seats because he is a f.cking punk.
If he had enough hair on his a.s to face me I might be able to learn to have the smallest shred of respect for him, but he doesn't, and I don't.
Greg Mossman - 04 Mar 2008 04:02 GMT > Doesn't matter, this nigger (remember I am slinging it at a white guy) has > nothing to offer to anyone, unless you are an illegal alien, then he has a > sub standard wage job with no bennies, no medical to offer so he can sell > cheap sh.t at the stores he runs. There's the colorful language we love from such a colorful guy. Now that I know your rainbow background, I'm not surprised.
BTW, I employ over 40 people, with a total payroll, not counting my salary, of close to $1,000,000/year. All my I-9 forms are accounted for. That makes you a liar, Scott.
How many people do you employ and what bennies do you provide them?
> He takes the cheapest of shots, from the cheapest of seats because he is a > f.cking punk. My chair cost me almost $500. That makes you a liar, Scott.
> If he had enough hair on his a.s to face me I might be able to learn to have > the smallest shred of respect for him, but he doesn't, and I don't. I'm here as always, ready to face you whenever you hitchhike down here. But that will never happen.
Besides, you've been invited to more than one DWG, with other people volunteering to pay for your airfare because you're not even worthy enough to be able to scrape up the cash for a cheap flight to Florida. But you didn't show.
If I ever do earn stoop low enough to earn your "respect", kindly shoot me to put me out of my misery.
Rod - 05 Mar 2008 00:30 GMT >> Doesn't matter, this nigger (remember I am slinging it at a white guy) has= > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >If I ever do earn stoop low enough to earn your "respect", kindly >shoot me to put me out of my misery. But do you wear slacks and play golf
Greg Mossman - 05 Mar 2008 01:37 GMT > >Besides, you've been invited to more than one DWG, with other people > >volunteering to pay for your airfare because you're not even worthy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > But do you wear slacks and play golf Rarely and no.
Scott - 05 Mar 2008 13:49 GMT <el snippo>
It just makes me glow to piss him off.
> But do you wear slacks and play golf Who cares?
Greg Mossman - 05 Mar 2008 23:39 GMT > <el snippo> > > It just makes me glow to piss him off. Pissed off? Yeah, I was mad about having to get up at 5 this morning to catch my flight. But that's about it.
> > But do you wear slacks and play golf > > Who cares? Not me. On my second gin & tonic in the Honolulu PC, waiting to board to Guam, I've got a nice glow too. We get into Palau around 10 p.m. tonight. Have you been to Palau yet, Scott? No? Didn't think so. But you know what? Who cares.
Enjoy your cold water. It's supposed to be 84 degrees underwater with 150'+ viz on the outside reef. We'll try to have fun.
George Cathcart - 06 Mar 2008 02:13 GMT > > "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Enjoy your cold water. It's supposed to be 84 degrees underwater with > 150'+ viz on the outside reef. We'll try to have fun. Okay, this time you're getting to a place ahead of me, by about two and a half years. I hope it's not sunk by rising sea level by the time I get there.
Have a great time, and you know we'll expect trip report and links to photos...
gc
Greg Mossman - 07 Mar 2008 00:02 GMT > > > "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Have a great time, and you know we'll expect trip report and links to > photos... You never know. I was talking to a guy on the flight last night that said there was already some reports of flooded islands out here. But it's looking good right now. This afternoon we have kayaking for mandarinfish, which I'm going to try shooting on snorkel with natural light. But gee, you know after Scott's claims that he gets me mad, I might just sit in my hotel room and stew over his mean comments. Yeah, right!
After tomorrow we're on the Aggressor, with internet silence for a week. Keep the metooers in line while I'm gone!
George Cathcart - 07 Mar 2008 02:43 GMT > > > > "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > After tomorrow we're on the Aggressor, with internet silence for a > week. Keep the metooers in line while I'm gone! I know Scott has probably ruined your trip, if not your whole life. I hope a week on the Aggressor in Palau will help. My next couple of weeks will be too busy to worry much about the metooers, so they may just be disappointed, throwing out their bait and catching...
nada.
Have a great time!
gc
Greg Mossman - 07 Mar 2008 08:46 GMT > > > > > "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > weeks will be too busy to worry much about the metooers, so they may > just be disappointed, throwing out their bait and catching... I wish I could at least blame Scott for the stomach ache I've had since the flight, but it's probably the fault of too much free business class booze. We skipped our kayak tour today since we're both exhausted, my stomach hurts, and it was pouring rain on and off all day. I should blame that on Scott too, why not? With all his hot air, he probably did cause the rain!
> nada. They can pester that Australian guy while we're busy. It's more fun for them to gang up on one poor soul.
> Have a great time! Oh yeah. Stomach is getting better since this morning, so I'm having maitais in the lobby bar while taking advantage of the free wifi. Tomorrow is scuba with the dolphins at Dolphins Pacific, the only captive dolphin program AFAIK that lets you dive with the slimy beasts instead of just snorkeling with 'em. But I'm sure that I'll still be reeling from all of Scott's profane insults so that I won't even be able to enjoy myself. Oh well, at least the dolphins will have a good time!
Joe English - 07 Mar 2008 13:25 GMT Greg, make sure you and your SO stay away form the morays
Enjoy your trip!
Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 02:33 GMT > Greg, make sure you and your SO stay away form the morays I have a good photo of her with her hand in a dolphin's mouth from yesterday's dive (a tame dolphin, but it still had teeth!), but there are so many other deadly things to poke out here, she'll probably leave the eels alone.
chilly - 08 Mar 2008 06:24 GMT (snip)able to enjoy myself. Oh well, at least the dolphins will have a good time!
I told you before and I'll tell you again. Quit posting while you are on vacation. Who do you think you are? Reefish?
So, in the meantime, is the Sat phone working or not?
Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 02:36 GMT > (snip)able to enjoy myself. Oh well, at least the dolphins will have a good > time! > > I told you before and I'll tell you again. Quit posting while you are on > vacation. Who do you think you are? Reefish? What else am I supposed to do on vacation?
> So, in the meantime, is the Sat phone working or not? Yeah, but I've only used it to check for messages so far, since I have to lean over my balcony to get a line of sight to the sky and that's not very comfortable for extended conversation. Wait until I'm safely aboard the Aggressor and then I can call you from a hammock on the sun deck.
At least the internet is working again today. It was out all yesterday. I suppose free wifi in the middle of Micronesia is enough of a technological marvel that I should consider myself blessed I'm able to get on at all since, like I said before, what else is there to do?
BTW, the dolphin dive was pretty cool, but the bastard dolphin kept kicking up the sand, making my photography a bit challenging. Some beasts have no respect. I bet they kick the corals too.
mag3 - 09 Mar 2008 04:56 GMT >Yeah, but I've only used it to check for messages so far, since I have >to lean over my balcony to get a line of sight to the sky and that's >not very comfortable for extended conversation. Wait until I'm safely >aboard the Aggressor and then I can call you from a hammock on the sun >deck. Where are you located (is it close to where I was)???
>At least the internet is working again today. It was out all >yesterday. I suppose free wifi in the middle of Micronesia is enough >of a technological marvel that I should consider myself blessed I'm >able to get on at all since, like I said before, what else is there to >do? Yeah, I forgot to mention sometimes it cuts out....
>BTW, the dolphin dive was pretty cool, but the bastard dolphin kept >kicking up the sand, making my photography a bit challenging. Some >beasts have no respect. I bet they kick the corals too. No, they're probably trained by the dolphin tour organizers to kick up the sand except when the tour organizers are takng picture they want to sell to their guests......... :-)
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Greg Mossman - 09 Mar 2008 07:31 GMT > >Yeah, but I've only used it to check for messages so far, since I have > >to lean over my balcony to get a line of sight to the sky and that's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Where are you located (is it close to where I was)??? Nope. We're a little walk away from the main building, past the dive shop, all the way to the 10 building. Actually that's where I stayed on my fam trip in 2003, but we were downstairs then.
> >At least the internet is working again today. It was out all > >yesterday. I suppose free wifi in the middle of Micronesia is enough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yeah, I forgot to mention sometimes it cuts out.... No problem, since it worked when I needed it for business. Rec.scuba is fun and all, but I really needed the internet for some bank transfers to prevent bouncing checks while I'm on the boat, and it fortunately came through.
> >BTW, the dolphin dive was pretty cool, but the bastard dolphin kept > >kicking up the sand, making my photography a bit challenging. Some [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sand except when the tour organizers are takng picture they want to sell > to their guests......... :-) Yeah, the bit about not letting the guests have cameras while you get your dolphin kiss so they can charge you $15 for a picture was a bit annoying, but we paid anyway.
Anyway, the hotel is pretty much as I remembered it except for two details: first, the pool underwent a major remodel from a motel-like uninviting waterhole to a beautiful horizon resort pool - that's a nice touch; second were the room toilets - the first time I've used a toilet that also wanted to wash and blow dry my butt!
We're off in a half-hour, back in a week. "See" you then.
mag3 - 09 Mar 2008 12:16 GMT >> >Yeah, but I've only used it to check for messages so far, since I have >> >to lean over my balcony to get a line of sight to the sky and that's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >shop, all the way to the 10 building. Actually that's where I stayed >on my fam trip in 2003, but we were downstairs then. I don't even recall those buildings as whenever I was over that way, I was always on the dock waiting for Sam's boats or checking out that cute DM working the Splash Tours boats.. Talk about a "bronze statue" goddess!! 8-)
>> >BTW, the dolphin dive was pretty cool, but the bastard dolphin kept >> >kicking up the sand, making my photography a bit challenging. Some [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >your dolphin kiss so they can charge you $15 for a picture was a bit >annoying, but we paid anyway. So did I when I did this in the FFK's last year, but I paid for the whole CD.
>Anyway, the hotel is pretty much as I remembered it except for two >details: first, the pool underwent a major remodel from a motel-like >uninviting waterhole to a beautiful horizon resort pool - that's a >nice touch; second were the room toilets - the first time I've used a >toilet that also wanted to wash and blow dry my butt! And you've been to Japan???? Those toilets are all over the place in hotels, etc. Lucky for you you didn't get an "Asian Squat" variety facility!!! << evil grin >>
>We're off in a half-hour, back in a week. "See" you then. Have fun. ____________________________________________ Regards,
Arnold
Greg Mossman - 17 Mar 2008 20:45 GMT > >> Where are you located (is it close to where I was)??? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > was always on the dock waiting for Sam's boats or checking out that cute > DM working the Splash Tours boats.. Talk about a "bronze statue" goddess!! 8-) The 10 building is past the dock, quite a hike in the humidity there.
We ended up in the 600 building for our "day room" on the way back, a garden view room overlooking the fish pond. Enjoyed the shorter walk when lugging laptop to the lobby, but it still wasn't close enough to access wifi from the room.
Quite a few cute DMs from Neco Marine too, I discovered on the last night of the Aggressor trip when we disembarked for dinner and drinks at Kramer's. They ranged from very cute to stunning. The dive manager there who hires them is a somewhat recently divorced male. Imagine that.
> And you've been to Japan???? Those toilets are all over the place in hotels, > etc. Lucky for you you didn't get an "Asian Squat" variety facility!!! << evil grin >> Never been to Japan. Not sure I want to.
When I was in Chuuk in 2002, I had to take a piss during our tour of Xavier High School and was pointed over to the outside restroom. The kids there were laughing at me when I went in, thinking I was going to have issues with the toilet which was basically just a hole in the ground, no TP or other place to wash. Since peeing in a hole in the ground isn't an issue for me, I didn't care a whit. Otherwise...
mag3 - 18 Mar 2008 01:12 GMT >> I don't even recall those buildings as whenever I was over that way, I >> was always on the dock waiting for Sam's boats or checking out that cute >> DM working the Splash Tours boats.. Talk about a "bronze statue" goddess!! 8-) > >The 10 building is past the dock, quite a hike in the humidity there. It wasn't hot enough in Feb. to generate the Humidity. It was just fine for me. Summer in NJ is far worse.
>Quite a few cute DMs from Neco Marine too, I discovered on the last >night of the Aggressor trip when we disembarked for dinner and drinks >at Kramer's. They ranged from very cute to stunning. The dive >manager there who hires them is a somewhat recently divorced male. >Imagine that. This particular one worked for the PPR's on site dive shop, Splash Tours. You can see her from a distance in one of my website pictures (the one where you see the boats on the dock in the distance)....
>> And you've been to Japan???? Those toilets are all over the place in hotels, >> etc. Lucky for you you didn't get an "Asian Squat" variety facility!!! << evil grin >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >have issues with the toilet which was basically just a hole in the >ground, no TP or other place to wash. Well, not to gross out the group, but in many places in Asia, especially in "non-Westernized" private homes etc., TP is often non-existent. Instead, there is a bucket of water and a scoop. Westerners must literally carry their own TP as a "survival" matter. Even where there are Western Style facilities, one cannot place any form of paper in the system as it will cause major clogging damage. There is usually a small trash can nearby (Chile was one such place).
Those "wash and blow dry" seats are lookin' better now eh??? :-)
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Arnold
chilly - 18 Mar 2008 01:55 GMT (snip)>
> This particular one worked for the PPR's on site dive shop, Splash Tours. You can > see her from a distance in one of my website pictures (the one where you see the > boats on the dock in the distance).... (snip)> >have issues with the toilet which was basically just a hole in the
> >ground, no TP or other place to wash. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cannot place any form of paper in the system as it will cause major clogging > damage. There is usually a small trash can nearby (Chile was one such place). Always remember to stand on the footpads, facing in the correct direction or Splash Tours gets a whole new meaning.
(snip)
mag3 - 18 Mar 2008 08:26 GMT >> Well, not to gross out the group, but in many places in Asia, especially >>in "non-Westernized" private homes etc., TP is often non-existent. Instead, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Always remember to stand on the footpads, facing in the correct direction or >Splash Tours gets a whole new meaning. Oh Yah!!!! 8-)
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Arnold
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