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Jerome's Sock Puppet - 02 Jan 2004 04:42 GMT
I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle
diving with her old man.  My plan is to run her through the PADI short
course, and then head south to the Keys, teach her to dive, and not give my
money to Disney or NASA.

I'd like to get in the water with some manatees, and see some tropical
stuff.  Any advice on where to go, and who to talk to?  Reputable shops or
instructors in the Jax area?  Anything in the Keys that I shouldn't miss?

Thanks!

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Kimber - 02 Jan 2004 13:04 GMT
> I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
> eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle

When are you headed this way?

Kimber
Jerome's Sock Puppet - 02 Jan 2004 17:09 GMT
> > I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
> > eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle
>
> When are you headed this way?

Probably April.  Depends on when the fed gets around to sending me my tax
money back.

-J
Kimber - 02 Jan 2004 17:12 GMT
> Probably April.  Depends on when the fed gets around to sending me my tax
> money back.

Keep us updated.  A dive trip is planned for spring sometime and well
overdue.

Kimber

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Jerome's Sock Puppet - 02 Jan 2004 17:34 GMT
> Keep us updated.  A dive trip is planned for spring sometime and well
> overdue.

Indeed!  Where are you planning to head to?

I don't know Florida waters for squat, and have no idea where to go, or what
to do.  I'm likely to get robbed by the shop monkeys and get dumped in a
premium mud puddle as anything.

-J
Scott - 03 Jan 2004 01:31 GMT
> > Keep us updated.  A dive trip is planned for spring sometime and well
> > overdue.
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> to do.  I'm likely to get robbed by the shop monkeys and get dumped in a
> premium mud puddle as anything.

Hook up with Jim Wyatt.

http://www.reef-divers.com/
Kimber - 03 Jan 2004 02:01 GMT
> Hook up with Jim Wyatt.
> http://www.reef-divers.com/

Heh -- I talked with Jerome today and told him that if he met us down there
that we would definitely be doing some dives with Jim!  (-:

Kimber
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Jerome's Sock Puppet - 03 Jan 2004 02:30 GMT
> Hook up with Jim Wyatt.
>
> http://www.reef-divers.com/

That's what I've been hearing a bunch of.

I'm going to be towing a brand new 14 year old OW diver, though.  I figure
we'll work something out.  I think if we can get in the water with some
manatees at Crystal River, she'll freak.

-J
Lee Bell - 04 Jan 2004 22:33 GMT
> I'm going to be towing a brand new 14 year old OW diver, though.  I figure
> we'll work something out.  I think if we can get in the water with some
> manatees at Crystal River, she'll freak.

The time to see manatees in the rivers, including Crystal River, is now.
They're only reliably there when the ocean and/or gulf waters are colder
than the rivers.

Lee
Jerome O'Neil - 05 Jan 2004 19:16 GMT

> The time to see manatees in the rivers, including Crystal River, is now.
> They're only reliably there when the ocean and/or gulf waters are colder
> than the rivers.

That's what I've heard.  

How reliable are they at other times of the year?  If we go in April,
will we be looking for the one remaining sea cow, or are our odds
better than average?

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David Gintz \(formerly newdiver2@aol.com\) - 03 Jan 2004 05:17 GMT
> Hook up with Jim Wyatt.
>
> http://www.reef-divers.com/
>
> I'd second that!
Dan Bracuk, CTHD - 02 Jan 2004 22:30 GMT
"Jerome's Sock Puppet" <jerome_oneil@yahoo.com> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:
:  My plan is to run her through the PADI short
:course, and then head south to the Keys, teach her to dive, and not give my
:money to Disney or NASA.

Isn't it great that there are certification agencies good enough to
offer courses like that?

If you are going in April, you might be too late for the manatees.

Dan Bracuk
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Jerome's Sock Puppet - 02 Jan 2004 22:36 GMT
> "Jerome's Sock Puppet" <jerome_oneil@yahoo.com> pounded away at his
> keyboard resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Isn't it great that there are certification agencies good enough to
> offer courses like that?

It's not like they are going to teach her to dive or anything.  Given our
selection of equaly shitty OW courses, what is left as a market
diferentiator?

> If you are going in April, you might be too late for the manatees.

So I've heard.  Apparently they are there in the spring, just not in the big
herds (schools? pods?) that you get in the winter.  Even if they aren't
there, we can still dive Boynton and the Keys.

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Kevin Falconer - 05 Jan 2004 00:20 GMT
> I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
> eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle
> diving with her old man.  My plan is to run her through the PADI short
> course, and then head south to the Keys, teach her to dive, and not give my
> money to Disney or NASA.

John Pennecamp state park (key largo) runs a dive boat that caters to snorkelers and
divers both, they typically do the more shallow reefs which would be great
for new divers. Their rates are much better than the regulars in key largo
and you can still see some pretty good stuff. They also knock off 10% if
you happen to be camping there.
Nutter - 06 Jan 2004 15:00 GMT
Can vouch for that, as a UK diver on holiday in the Keys in 1999 had a
very few memorable dives.

The dive boat did everything for us, all we had to do was 'step in',
only 15mins between dives. First dive 45 mins 30ft, 2nd dive 50mins
30ft.

Remember diving a small wooden wreck, just the shell really and a
black tip reef shark swam right accross me vision right to left. At
one point it looked like it might come towards me .... very scary
moment but MAGIC!

As a cold water diver I was only wearing swimming shorts, which was a
problem upon surfacing from the 2nd dive amongst 100's of small fist
sized) lightly stinging jelly fish. Was diving early September.

Have fun.

Ray.

>I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
>eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle
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>
>Thanks!
Lee Bell - 06 Jan 2004 23:14 GMT
> Can vouch for that, as a UK diver on holiday in the Keys in 1999 had a
> very few memorable dives.

> The dive boat did everything for us, all we had to do was 'step in',
> only 15mins between dives. First dive 45 mins 30ft, 2nd dive 50mins
> 30ft.

It's tough to find the best diving the Keys have to offer when you're on
holiday.  Many of the best sites have no names are are not frequented by the
cattle boats.

> >I'm getting ready for the annual spring Jacksonville treck to play with my
> >eldest child.  She's reached a stage where she's mature enough to handle
> >diving with her old man.  My plan is to run her through the PADI short
> >course, and then head south to the Keys, teach her to dive, and not give my
> >money to Disney or NASA.

> >I'd like to get in the water with some manatees, and see some tropical
> >stuff.  Any advice on where to go, and who to talk to?  Reputable shops or
> >instructors in the Jax area?  Anything in the Keys that I shouldn't miss?

When in Crystal River, we stay at the Best Western and rent a boat from
them.  That gives us the option of spending as much time as we like at one
or more of the areas where the manatees tend to congregate.

If you have time while in the area, arrange a drift dive along the Rainbow
River.  Unlike the areas favored by manatees, the water is crystal clear and
there's enough to see to make it interesting.  It can be snorkeled as easily
as it can be dove, but having a new diver with you, I suggest doing it on
scuba.  Max depth is only about 30 feet.

If you get far enough into the Keys to reach Islmorada, do not miss a stop
at Robbies.  Pay the fee and buy a bucket of bait to hand feet the tarpon
there.  It's about the only must do thing I can come up with for that part
of the Keys.  If you get to Key West, take the Conch Train tour.  It's
touristy as hell, but you'll see and learn a lot about the area.

Lee
 
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