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Scuba Forum / General / March 2008Unbelievable
I find this hard to believe. This says a lot about the French. I like to think Americans would do better. Note, this has nothing to do with guns or SCUBA. http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1773116 > I find this hard to believe. This says a lot about the French. I like to > think Americans would do better. Note, this has nothing to do with guns or > SCUBA. > > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1773116 Incroyable. JF > I find this hard to believe. This says a lot about the French. I like to > think Americans would do better. Note, this has nothing to do with guns or > SCUBA. > > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1773116 NONE of those objects ROTATE about the Earth. Hello. I couldn't see that is was in the translation, either; if it were, the translator is also an idiot. * > > I find this hard to believe. This says a lot about the French. I like to > > think Americans would do better. Note, this has nothing to do with guns or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that is was in the translation, either; if it were, the translator is > also an idiot. But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world will come to a screeching halt. 8) JF > But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in > matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world > will come to a screeching halt. 8) I take it that Star was taking issue with using the term 'rotate' vs 'orbit'... Perhaps to the laymen, they mean the same, but they're not... Rotation implies rotational movement about its axis... Orbiting implies a movement of one body around another another body... OK, technically, they are both orbiting their combined center of mass, but that would be getting a bit too detailed for the idiots creating the questions on these types of shows...  SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in >> matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a bit too detailed for the idiots creating the questions on these types of > shows... Hopefully, you didn't miss the fact that the contestant answered the sun. Lee > Hopefully, you didn't miss the fact that the contestant answered the sun. Yeah, I noticed that... I was just elaboration on the issue that Star pointed out... Whether it was a mistranslation or whether the person who wrote the question was not that scientifically oriented, I don't know, but at least in the translation, the technical term was incorrect... Since the moon's rotational period is equal to its orbital period, it keeps one face towards the Earth at all times... The sun on the other hand, has a rotational period of around 25 days or so (less at the poles than at the equator)... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. > Yeah, I noticed that... I was just elaboration on the issue that Star > pointed out... Whether it was a mistranslation or whether the person who [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > rotational period of around 25 days or so (less at the poles than at the > equator)... If you presume the earth to be the axis, the moon rotates around the earth, just like a tire, although bent a bit, rotates around its axis. The term used isn't scientifically precise, but it works just fine in common usage. Lee On Feb 21, 2:51 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in > > matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a bit too detailed for the idiots creating the questions on these types of > shows... That was my assumption too. Any Heinlein fan knows at least that much about the moon, besides it being a harsh mistress. BTW. All this talk about Robert H. has got me feeling kinda nostalgic. I'm going to organize of his books, start from the very beginning and read 'em all again. Well, I may pass on the latest ones. They got kind of repetitive, but the early days of Lazarus Long were great, even if it was sorta confusing with all the time warping. JF > > But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in > > matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a bit too detailed for the idiots creating the questions on these types of > shows... The idiots are seemingly smarter than Francis or the contestants. > > > But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in > > > matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The idiots are seemingly smarter than Francis or the contestants. You might want to reread the posts before you jump on the Popeye Fantasy Wagon. BTW. Did anyone else happen to see the lunar eclipse last night. It was very clear here. I've never watched one before. You could actually follow the earth's shadow as it circled the moon. 8) JF > BTW. Did anyone else happen to see the lunar eclipse last night. It was > very clear here. I've never watched one before. You could actually follow > the earth's shadow as it circled the moon. 8) We were overcast and getting some light rain... I've seen them before... Not really worth going outside for unless you were taking out the trash at that time anyway... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >>>>But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in >>>>matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > JF I watched the very first part, then when it was totally eclipsed - pretty cool. It was very cold out here so the last part I just looked at thru the window. > > "Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > was very clear here. I've never watched one before. You could actually > follow the earth's shadow as it circled the moon. 8) I got to see it during the break we had for class at the fire house. Nice. But then again, I've seen one before and I don't believe what the ancients said about the Gods coming during the black moon. On Feb 21, 11:51 am, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > But the moon does orbit the earth, doesn't it? I will defer to you in > > matters scientific, oh learned one, but if you say it ain't so, my world [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. yeah, what Grummy said, leaving out the center of mass calculations for the sake of the idiots. The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted "rotate' for "revolve" then the moon would be the only correct answer. > yeah, what Grummy said, leaving out the center of mass calculations > for the sake of the idiots. > > The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the > choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted > "rotate' for "revolve" then the moon would be the only correct answer. How about "wobble"? > > yeah, what Grummy said, leaving out the center of mass calculations > > for the sake of the idiots. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How about "wobble"? Different motion entirely. Is you spin a top or even a gyroscope and watch the very top of the top, at the axis of rotation, you will detect a tiny, sometimes rhythmic, variation in the exact location of the axis. The Earth does this too, The top would cease wobbling over a time if it spun long enough, but the Earth doesn't. THis is probably because the atmosphere and more importantly, the oceans are fluid and the pressure at the bottom changes due to salinity and temperature fluctuations and wind-driven currents. Amazing, huh? *, off to kiddieland now...... > > How about "wobble"? > Different motion entirely. Is you spin a top or even a gyroscope and > watch the very top of the top, at the axis of rotation, you will [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > fluid and the pressure at the bottom changes due to salinity and > temperature fluctuations and wind-driven currents. Amazing, huh? > *, off to kiddieland now...... Perfect. A marble with a thick layer of liquid mass at the periphery, a liquid core that is not all that stable, an eccentric, orbiting axis, and a parabolic orbit, with another mass that also has a parabolic orbit, and a wobbly axis. Still, it is hard to believe anyone is that stupid, until you drive I5. I balance reciprocating and revolving masses to 1/64 to 1/1000th of a gram, depending upon RPM. Some of the parts I work with are concentric and cylindrical to projected tolerances of .0002" or slightly better. It's an art, not a science; Science give you a spot to jump off in. >> > How about "wobble"? Weebles wobble. But they don't fall down. They're verrrry tricky... >> Different motion entirely. Is you spin a top or even a gyroscope and >> watch the very top of the top, at the axis of rotation, you will [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Science give you a spot to jump off in. Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > I balance reciprocating and revolving masses to 1/64 to 1/1000th of a gram, > depending upon RPM. > > Some of the parts I work with are concentric and cylindrical to projected > tolerances of .0002" or slightly better. But what are the diameters of the parts that you are working with that need tolerances of .0002"? > > I balance reciprocating and revolving masses to 1/64 to 1/1000th of a gram, > > depending upon RPM. > > Some of the parts I work with are concentric and cylindrical to projected > > tolerances of .0002" or slightly better. > But what are the diameters of the parts that you are working with that > need tolerances of .0002"? Plenty. An accumulation of error of .0002 per operation can later become huge and scrap parts. Just like an idiot writing code at the beginning of a simple job can make a simple plan insurmountable > The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the > choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted > "rotate' for "revolve" then the moon would be the only correct answer. The Sun is not the right answer no matter what term you use. >> The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the >> choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted >> "rotate' for "revolve" then the moon would be the only correct answer. > >The Sun is not the right answer no matter what term you use. The original question in French used the verb 'gravitate'. I was wondering if the contestant was related to Kelly Pickler or Miss Teen USA South Carolina :-) BTW the NSF asked the same question and the answers for 2002 were Earth goes around the Sun and not vice versa (86 percent of men compared with 66 percent of women). http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind02/c7/c7s1.htm to paraphrase a poster I guess that says a lot about Americans :-) just like this entertaining clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE On 26 Lut, 04:59, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.claranet.fr> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:05:04 -0500, "Lee Bell" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > to paraphrase a poster I guess that says a lot about Americans :-) > just like this entertaining cliphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE This one is even better :-)))))) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw Janusz > On 26 Lut, 04:59, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.claranet.fr> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Janusz I actually saw this one as it happened. While she had never heard of Hungary - she had heard of Turkey! I guess I should be surprised she had heard of Hamburg! Oh my god ! >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw > Oh my god ! > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw No license needed to bear children. Or vote. > > Oh my god ! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or vote. I'm curious what would have been be your answer ? Janusz > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On 26 Lut, 04:59, John R. Macdonald <scubaj...@remove.claranet.fr> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Hungary - she had heard of Turkey! I guess I should be surprised she had > heard of Hamburg! Because she never was hungry. I suppose that at school cafeteria turkey and hamburgers were served. Janusz >> > This one is even better :-)))))) >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Hungary - she had heard of Turkey! I guess I should be surprised she had >> heard of Hamburg! I know jAnus is too dumb, but you guys wouldn't think that any of that is staged? > Because she never was hungry. I suppose that at school cafeteria > turkey and hamburgers were served. > > Janusz Oh, yeah. We have food in our country. Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com On 27 Lut, 15:51, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I know jAnus is too dumb, but you guys wouldn't think that any of that is > staged? staged? ROFTL. Douggy, give up your futile hope. as your reading skills are not too strong you can listen to some honest opinions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN6Rx8X6_I&feature=related > > Because she never was hungry. I suppose that at school cafeteria > > turkey and hamburgers were served. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > We have food in our country. Oh, yeah. Especially junk food. Janusz > -- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com >>>The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the >>>choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > just like this entertaining clip > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE John - I took the post not to slam the French - but more that American (specifically North Americans) don't hold the edge in really uneducated people. I am not big on reality shows - but do watch are you smarter than a fifth grader - while I do miss some questions (guess I'm not smarter) - i did get all the questions right including the million dollar one - some of the contestants would never be admitted to Mensa - I wonder how some of the contestants got out of first grade > >>>The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the > >>>choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > some of the contestants would never be admitted to Mensa - I wonder how > some of the contestants got out of first grade Thanks to American school system. Janusz >>>>>The preferred verb is "revolve." If one reads "rotate," none of the >>>>>choices are correct. If the translator incorrectly substituted [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Janusz it appears that the American School system doesn't have a corner on that market - by a long shot! But another Anti-American remark is duly noted > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > it appears that the American School system doesn't have a corner on that > market - by a long shot! But another Anti-American remark is duly noted Joe, it was you who wondered how some of contestants got out of first grade. As they are not too bright there is one simple answer - faulty American School system. And if you think that it was Anti-American remark I have no other option, but to wonder how you were able to get out of first grade. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Janusz the original post was the French version - I wonder how they get thru the school system there - try to keep up > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > the original post was the French version Yes, but since then the thread evolved a bit. Short term memory problem? It is so typical for the Club. >- I wonder how they get thru > the school system there - try to keep up It so easy. It's enough to google and you have results http://www.moving-to-france-made-easy.com/french-education-system.html "Being left back in France is not considered the extreme measure it is in the U.S. Generally, Public schools consider it more worthwhile for a weak student to consolidate his foundations by repeating the year than to move on to a higher grade on a shaky substructure. Also, French course curriculum is dense and, Math and Science are more heavily emphasized. This is perhaps why French students and parents are more or less in accordance with this practice. Thirty percent of French students repeat at least one year during their scholastic years." Janusz > It so easy. It's enough to google and you have results > http://www.moving-to-france-made-easy.com/french-education-system.html [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Janusz Now we see part of the problem - januz, you should have been kept back a couple of more times. Thank God, for the private education in the United States > > It so easy. It's enough to google and you have results > >http://www.moving-to-france-made-easy.com/french-education-system.html [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > couple of more times. Thank God, for the private education in the > United States private education? Joe, are you OK? Had you been a little bit smarter you would have found that the cite is from web site designated for Americans moving to France and comparing two public education systems. To make your task easier it's K-12. With little effort you could have read the whole text and find this "One thing is sure, no matter what type of student your child was back home, he would have become hardworking and industrious with EXCELLENT study habits that will serve him not only for the remainder of your stay in France, but for the rest of his scholastic career. Upon return to the USA, he will be placed in advanced Math, Science, and French classes (High School) or at the very least be placed in honor classes. " Janusz >>>It so easy. It's enough to google and you have results >>>http://www.moving-to-france-made-easy.com/french-education-system.html [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Janusz unfortunately I am referring to the original post of the story and the comments that followed about the original post. My sympathies on not being able to follow that line of reasoning. It really does suck to be you > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > comments that followed about the original post. My sympathies on not > being able to follow that line of reasoning. It really does suck to be you unfortunately it seems that you are completely lost, but what could be expected from the guy who sincerely wrote "I am not big on reality shows - but do watch are you smarter than a fifth grader - while I do miss some questions (guess I'm not smarter) - i did get all the questions right including the million dollar one" Joe, look up, reread the text, but very, very slowly and maybe you will catch up. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Janusz do the same > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > do the same No way. I'm not going to be watching "Are you smarter than 5th grader" Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Janusz I agree way to hard - start out slow try 'Am I smarter than a pre-schooler' Study hard and use your cheats. Go slow, don't move to the next level until you are very confident in your self. Hell in five or six years with a lot of hard work, and help you may make it to 'Are you smarter than a 1st Grader' Let us know how it goes! > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > or six years with a lot of hard work, and help you may make it to 'Are > you smarter than a 1st Grader' Let us know how it goes! Thank you for such nice piece of advice. I really appreciate it as you speak out of your experience. BTW I still wonder how/if you got out of the first grade. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > Janusz yeah one try, I missed the second and went on to the third - how 'bout? Not that it would make much difference in you educational system > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > yeah one try, I missed the second and went on to the third - how 'bout? So you tried three times, but it's not the answer for my question. > Not that it would make much difference in you educational system Of course not. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > Of course not. > Janusz no idiot I didn't try three times try to keep up > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > no idiot I didn't try three times try to keep up Of course, you tried three times to get out of the first grade. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > Janusz try to keep up, I realize it is very hard for you, bu then I would not expect any less from you > Joe, it was you who wondered how some of contestants got out of first > grade. As they are not too bright there is one simple answer - faulty [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Janusz It -was- one of your trademark AA remarks, as evidenced by your use of the word "American", while describing a situation that A) you're completely and personally ignorant of, and, B) has nothing to do with America in particular. It was the "faulty American school system" that took us to another planet (that we now own), and no other country's "school system" has yet to reach. And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. Signature-- A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > It -was- one of your trademark AA remarks, as evidenced by your use of the > word "American", while describing a situation that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. http://tinyurl.com/4een3 > > It -was- one of your trademark AA remarks, as evidenced by your use of the > > word "American", while describing a situation that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/4een3 I'm sorry Scotty, but it isn't the best example. http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/educators/study-guides/history_manhattan-project.htm "The main facility at Los Alamos soon became a miniature United Nations of top - ranking scientists, including nearly every past and future Nobel winner in the field. Among those who played central roles in the discoveries to come were Wigner, Bethe, Rotblatt, and Ulam from Germany; Leo Szilard and Edvard Teller from Hungary; Enrico Fermi from Italy; Kistiakowski from Russia; Carson Mark and Louis Slotkin from Canada; and Philip Morrison, Richard Feynman, and Robert Oppenheimer from the U.S." and BTW even Oppenheimer was trained in Europe. Janusz On Feb 29, 5:29 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > It -was- one of your trademark AA remarks, as evidenced by your use of the > > > word "American", while describing a situation that [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Janusz Good point, Janusz. Most American educators will tell you that since World War II the only part of the American education system that has shown superiority to other industrial nations is the graduate portion of American research universities (the higher education system some here like to disparage so much). The problem in the current century is that the backbone of these great graduate schools -- foreign students, especially from China and India -- is weakening. After World War II, the great technological advances that made the US the world's dominant economic power were created in very large part by foreign scientists who came here to go to graduate school and stayed on. Our tightened visa requirements and immigration policies have discouraged many of these talented students from either coming here or staying here, and countries like Germany, Australia and Canada are investing heavily in their universities to make them more attractive to these students, even as we are investing less in our universities. At the same time, enrollment of Americans in graduate school continues to remain flat or down. This means the next generation of innovators will study in those countries and many of them will choose to live in those countries -- or back home in India and China. This will in turn erode what's left of our technological and economic superiority. gc > On Feb 29, 5:29 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > gc Right. I don't know if you have read this report http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-746.pdf it confirms what you said. For me BTW it is really amazing that even with all visa etc. restrictions foreign students earn more than 60% of doctorates in engineering. Janusz On 29 Lut, 01:38, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It -was- one of your trademark AA remarks, as evidenced by your use of the > word "American", while describing a situation that From the psychological point of view it is really interesting that when you see the word "American" in my post it immediately makes you think it means "anti-American'. IMHO you have delirium of persecution, but don't worry there is a cure for it. > A) you're completely and personally ignorant of, and, ROTFL > B) has nothing to do with America in particular. FYEO "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?" is an American program (I know for you it means AA). > It was the "faulty American school system" that took us to another planet > (that we now own) Too much SF movies? ROTFL Name at least one planet that you own. >, and no other country's "school system" has yet to reach. > > And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. Don't tell this to the Talibs or the Iraqis. Janusz > On 29 Lut, 01:38, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Janusz We don't have to tell them, unless you have been living in a 'cave' you have first hand experience > We don't have to tell them, unless you have been living in a 'cave' you > have first hand experience. Not only that, but they aren't a nation; they are a bunch of batshit nuts Islamic Fascists, so it's no surprise Anus holds them in high regard. > > We don't have to tell them, unless you have been living in a 'cave' you > > have first hand experience. > > Not only that, but they aren't a nation; they are a bunch of batshit nuts > Islamic Fascists, so it's no surprise Anus holds them in high regard. Scotty could you enlighten us what in your opinion makes a nation? Definition if you please Janusz >>>We don't have to tell them, unless you have been living in a 'cave' you >>>have first hand experience. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Janusz I don;t think there has been any counter information that says the Taliban or Al Qaeda is a nation. YMMV <chainsaw> What a dumb f.ck. > I don;t think there has been any counter information that says the > Taliban or Al Qaeda is a nation. YMMV As any fool knows, and a 2 second google shows, they are not on the list of nations; (A) Albania (Tirane) - in Albanian only Algeria (Algers) Andorra (Andorra la Vella) Angola (Luanda) Anguilla (St. Martin) Antigua and Barbuda (St. John's) Argentina (Buenos Aires) Armenia (Yerevan) Australia (Canberra) Austria (Vienna) Azerbaijan (Baku) (B) Bahamas (Nassau) Bahrain (Manama) Bangladesh (Dhaka) Barbados (Bridgetown) Belarus (Minsk) Belgium (Brussels) Belize (Belmopan) Benin (Port-Novo) - In French only Bhutan (Thimphu) Bolivia (Sucre) Bosnia and Herzegovina (Sarajevo) Botswana (Gaborone) Brazil (Brasilia) Brunei (Bander Seri Begawan) Bulgaria (Sofia) Burkina Faso (Ouagadougou) - In French only Burma/Myanmar (Yangon) Burundi (Bujumbura) (C) Cambodia (Phnom Penh) Cameroon (Yaounde) Canada (Ottawa) Cape Verde (Praia) - In Portuguese only Central African Republic (Bangui) - In French only Chad (N'Djamena) Chile (Santiago) China (Beijing) Colombia (Bogota) Comoros (Moroni) Congo (Brazzaville) Congo, Democratic Republic of (Kinshasa) Costa Rica (San Jose) Cote d'Ivoire/Ivory Coast (Yamoussoukro) - general link Croatia (Zagreb) Cuba (Havana) Cyprus (Nicosia) (Greek) Cyprus (Nicosia) (Turkish) Czech Republic (Prague) (D) Denmark (Copenhagen) Djibouti (Djibouti) Dominica (Roseau) Dominican Republic (Santo Domingo) (E) Ecuador (Quito) - links to government sites Egypt (Cairo) El Salvador (San Salvador) Equatorial Guinea (Malabo) Eritrea (Asmara) Estonia (Tallinn) Ethiopia (Addis Ababa) (F) Fiji (Suva) Finland (Helsinki) France (Paris) (G) Gabon (Liberville) Gambia (Banjul) Georgia (Tbilisi) Germany (Berlin) Ghana (Accra) Greece (Athens) Greenland (Godthab) Grenada (St. George's) Guatemala (Guatemala City) Guinea (Conakry) Guinea-Bissau (Bissau) Guyana (Georgetown) (H) Haiti (Port-au-Prince) Honduras (Tegucigalpa) Hungary (Budapest) (I) Iceland (Reykjavik) India (New Delhi) Indonesia (Jakarta) Iran (Tehran) Iraq (Baghdad) Ireland (Dublin) Israel (Jerusalem) Italy (Rome) (J) Jamaica (Kingston) Japan (Tokyo) Jordan (Amman) (K) Kazakstan (Almaty) Kenya (Nairobi) Kiribati (Bairiki) Korea, North (Pyongyang) Korea, South (Seoul) Kuwait (Kuwait City) Kyrgyzstan (Bishkek) (L) Laos (Vientiane) - U.S.A. Embassy Latvia (Riga) Lebanon (Beirut) Lesotho (Maseru) Liberia (Monrovia) Libya (Tripoli) Liechtenstein (Vaduz) - in German only Lithuania (Vilnius) Luxembourg (Luxembourg) (M) Macedonia (Skopje) Madagascar (Antananarivo) Malawi (Lilongwe) Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) Maldives (Male) Mali (Bamako) - embassy in Washington Malta (Valletta) Marshall Islands (Majuro) Mauritania (Nouakchott) Mauritius (Port Louis) Mexico (Mexico City) Micronesia (Palikir) Moldova (Chisinau) Monaco (Monaco) Mongolia (Ulan Bator) Morocco (Rabat) Mozambique (Maputo) (N) Namibia (Windhoek) Nepal (Kathmandu) Netherlands (The Hague) New Zealand (Wellington) Nicaragua (Managua) Niger (Niamey) Nigeria (Abuja) Norway (Oslo) (O) Oman (Muscat) (P) Pakistan (Islamabad) Palau (Koror) Palestine (Jerusalem) Panama (Panama City) Papua New Guinea (Port Moresby) Paraguay (Asuncion) Peru (Lima) Philippines (Manila) Poland (Warsaw) Portugal (Lisbon) Puerto Rico (San Juan) (Q) Qatar (Doha) (R) Romania (Bucharest) Russian Federation (Moscow) Rwanda (Kigali) (S) Saint Kitts and Nevis (Basseterre) Saint Lucia (Castries) Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (Kingstown) San Marino (San Marino) Sao Tome and Principe (Sao Tome) Saudi Arabia (Riyadh) Senegal (Dakar) Seychelles (Victoria) Sierra Leone (Freetown) Singapore (Singapore City) Slovakia (Bratislava) - in Slovak only Slovenia (Ljubljana) Solomon Islands (Honiara) Somalia (Mogadishu) South Africa (Pretoria) Spain (Madrid) - in Spanish only Sri Lanka (Colombo) Sudan (Khartoum) Suriname (Paramaribo) Swaziland (Mbabane) Sweden (Stockholm) Switzerland (Bern) Syria (Damascus) (T) Taiwan (Taipei) Tajikistan (Dushanbe) - general information Tanzania (Dodoma) Thailand (Bangkok) Togo (Lome) Tonga (Nuku'alofa) Trinidad and Tobago (Port-of-Spain) Tunisia (Tunis) Turkey (Ankara) - in Turkish only Turkmenistan (Ashgabat) Tuvalu (Funafuti) (U) Uganda (Kampala) Ukraine (Kiev) United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi) United Kingdom (London) United States of America (Washington D.C.) Uruguay (Montevideo) Uzbekistan (Tashkent) (V) Vanuatu (Port-Vila) Vatican City Venezuela (Caracas) Vietnam (Hanoi) - In Vietnamese only (W) Western Samoa (Apia) (Y) Yemen (Sana) Yugoslavia (Belgrade) (Z) Zambia (Lusaka) Zimbabwe (Harare) > <chainsaw> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > As any fool knows, and a 2 second google shows, they are not on the list of > nations; Maybe "any fool" knows, but you are not "any" you are very fine specimen of idiot who can't answer simple question and instead provide "list of nations" without Afghanistan. ROTFL Janusz > (A) > Albania (Tirane) - in Albanian only [quoted text clipped - 239 lines] > Zambia (Lusaka) > Zimbabwe (Harare) > Maybe "any fool" knows, but you are not "any" you are very fine specimen > of idiot who can't answer simple question and instead provide "list of > nations" without Afghanistan. ROTFL Well, as long as we're getting picky, he also left out the Republic of Texas... Obviously the website that he pulled that list from is incomplete... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. > Well, as long as we're getting picky, he also left out the Republic of > Texas... Obviously the website that he pulled that list from is incomplete... No, that just Anus looking for a way to claim anything but admit his stupidity. I was trying to be unbiased, I took the list of a liberal website; http://www.abc.net.au/civics/oneworld/nationlist.htm Serves me right. Plus, I didn't give enough of a sh.t to look it over, since my goal was only to show the f.cking worms sh.t stupid pinko that Al Quada and the Taliban arent nations. This list includes Palestine, which the UN list doesnt. > > Well, as long as we're getting picky, he also left out the Republic of > > Texas... Obviously the website that he pulled that list from is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No, that just Anus looking for a way to claim anything but admit his > stupidity. I was trying to be unbiased, and as usual only proved your dumbness >I took the list of a liberal > website; > > http://www.abc.net.au/civics/oneworld/nationlist.htm > Serves me right. Just like idiocy > Plus, I didn't give enough of a sh.t to look it over, because it would require some knowledge, > since my goal was only > to show the f.cking worms sh.t stupid pinko that Al Quada and the Taliban > arent nations. Hey Moron, did I say anything about Al-Quaeda or Taliban in this thread. Maybe some reading classes? > This list includes Palestine, which the UN list doesnt. So it should be mentioned as Palestinian National Authority, which is responsible for West Bank and Gaza Strip and BTW it's capital is in Ramallah Janusz > No, that just Anus looking for a way to claim anything but admit his > stupidity. I was trying to be unbiased, I took the list of a liberal > website; Liberal website, huh? Well, that would be why they don't list the Republic of Texas... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 1 Mar, 22:35, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > No, that just Anus looking for a way to claim anything but admit his > > stupidity. I was trying to be unbiased, I took the list of a liberal > > website; > > Liberal website, huh? Well, that would be why they don't list the > Republic of Texas... Hmmm. There is also another aspect. Douggie wants Aussie liberal for US president. Scotty publically admits using liberal web site. It looks that the Metoo Club has liberal inclinations. Janusz > On 1 Mar, 22:35, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Janusz does this stupid, uninformed idiot get anything right? Anything at all? Not that it should surprise anyone but at whole thread - WHOOOOOSH! > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On 1 Mar, 22:35, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > does this stupid, uninformed idiot get anything right? Anything at all? > Not that it should surprise anyone but at whole thread - WHOOOOOSH! Do you mean Douggy or Scotty? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Janusz just more proof. use to that the proof was in the pudding, but now it is janusz > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > just more proof. use to that the proof was in the pudding, but now it > is janusz the original (educated people) version of the proverb is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" :-))) You didn't answer my question. Did you mean Douggy or Scotty? Janusz >>>>>Janusz >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Janusz As I understand it, you are either, or a combination of: -The pudding - the proof of the pudding - been eaten Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Matthias culinary connotations? Do you think that we have cannibal on this ng? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > culinary connotations? Do you think that we have cannibal on this ng? I don' think we have only cannibals. Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Matthias not only? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > not only? > Janusz No. Not not only. Matthias >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Janusz sorry I thought you would figure that out since 'your cognizant skills' are so superior. It isn't Scotty, it isn't Douggy. It is none other than you, I thought you should have been able to figure that out, sorry that you weren't. > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > sorry I thought you would figure that out since 'your cognizant skills' > are so superior. If anything it should be "your cognitive skills", but thanks for appreciation > It isn't Scotty, it isn't Douggy. It is none other > than you, I thought you should have been able to figure that out, sorry > that you weren't. Poor Joe, your answer to my post about Douggy and Scotty was as follows "does this stupid, uninformed idiot get anything right? Anything at all?" if you wanted to offend me you should have used different form. Instead you preffered to ask about "him" (third person). As the post was about Douggy and Scotty it was logical to ask you which one is considered by you as an idiot. Now, you claim something opposite, so once again I have to ask you to think before writing, but very,very slowly. Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > Janusz if you can't keep up at this speed there is no hope for you, I can not slow down anymore, it really must suck to be you > does this stupid, uninformed idiot get anything right? Anything at all? > Not that it should surprise anyone but at whole thread - WHOOOOOSH! I am still trying to figure out why you haven't shitcanned him yet. >>does this stupid, uninformed idiot get anything right? Anything at all? >>Not that it should surprise anyone but at whole thread - WHOOOOOSH! > > I am still trying to figure out why you haven't shitcanned him yet. I am still recuperating the pain medication and no alcohol make it fun. However I will be quitting soon - suppose to be near 70F here with winter weather advisories Monday and Tuesday Yippeeee > > Maybe "any fool" knows, but you are not "any" you are very fine specimen > > of idiot who can't answer simple question and instead provide "list of > > nations" without Afghanistan. ROTFL > > Well, as long as we're getting picky, he also left out the Republic of > Texas... Obviously the website that he pulled that list from is incomplete... What? There is no Republic of Texas? I hope that Texas Navy is on the way to punish that ignorant dumb Yankee. ;-) . Janusz >> > Maybe "any fool" knows, but you are not "any" you are very fine specimen >> > of idiot who can't answer simple question and instead provide "list of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Janusz They did, they gave us their governer for president > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I don;t think there has been any counter information that says the > Taliban or Al Qaeda is a nation. YMMV Did I mention Taliban or Al Quaeda? Or maybe it was that little guy in your head? Janusz > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On 29 Lut, 01:38, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > We don't have to tell them, unless you have been living in a 'cave' you > have first hand experience I suppose you wanted to be funny, but it doesn't work. Could you rephrase it into something resembling English? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Janusz Works for me, my sympathies onnot being able to follow along, must suck to be you! > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > Works for me, So, I wonder how you ........ (you know what) Janusz >my sympathies onnot being able to follow along, must suck > to be you! On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> Joe, it was you who wondered how some of contestants got out of first >> grade. As they are not too bright there is one simple answer - faulty [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It was the "faulty American school system" that took us to another planet >(that we now own), and no other country's "school system" has yet to reach. Well if you think the moon is a planet then the American school system you went through is definitely faulty. If you think America owns the moon then you're deluded. > And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. Brawny is not the same as brainy. :-) You also forgot to add that America is the richest third-world country in the world. >-- > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > You also forgot to add that America is the richest third-world country > in the world. Cite, please >>-- > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Well if you think the moon is a planet then the American school system > you went through is definitely faulty. You would be incorrect, here. The moon is considered a "terrestrial" planet, or a "minor" planet. While the definition of what a planet is, exactly, is currently in flux, the moon has previously been considered a planet, and may soon be considered a "major" planet like the rest. > If you think America owns the moon then you're deluded. Sorry, Chump: http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/finderskeepers/male It's the standard that explorers have use for claiming territory since recorded history began. >> And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. > > Brawny is not the same as brainy. :-) As opposed you your third world shithole? You're just another howler money embarrassed by the fact you country never was, and never will be, in a position to make the decisions we do. Like a pee-wee coach cat-calling the Superbowl. > You also forgot to add that America is the richest third-world country > in the world. If we weren't "all that", you wouldn't be here leg humping, for -years- now. Run along, -boy-. Is it Spring, or something?? SignatureA skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears and sometimes hates the man who can. -Cooper Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Is it Spring, or something? Not quite, Global Warming <trademark> and all, but this is just more of the usual AA bullshit, tossed by people who cant handle being losers and in debt. A debt they can never repay, but also one they don't realize We hope they never have to repay, and asked no payment for. Ungraceful "people" can always ruin a truly magnificent gift. On 2 Mar, 03:28, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > You would be incorrect, here. Douggy, this was proved here by yourself many, many times. > The moon is considered a "terrestrial" planet, or a "minor" planet. Are you really so stupid? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_planet "A terrestrial planet, telluric planet or rocky planet is a planet that is primarily composed of silicate rocks" "Earth's solar system has four terrestrial planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, and one terrestrial dwarf planet, Ceres." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_planet "Minor planets, or asteroids or planetoids, are minor celestial bodies of the Solar system orbiting the Sun " > While the definition of what a planet is, exactly, is currently in flux, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet "A planet, as defined by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), is a celestial body orbiting a star or stellar remnant that is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity, not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals." > the moon has previously been considered a planet, and may soon be considered > a "major" planet like the rest. Blah, Blah, Blah. Cite, please (of course if it is not too tough job for you) > > If you think America owns the moon then you're deluded. > > Sorry, Chump: > > http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/finderskeepers/male Really good source. Exactly at your educational level. > It's the standard that explorers have use for claiming territory since > recorded history began. Ever heard about international law? > >> And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. > > > Brawny is not the same as brainy. :-) > > As opposed you your third world shithole? > You're just another howler money embarrassed by the fact you country never > was, and never will be, in a position to make the decisions we do. You don't seem to be in position to make any decission as it's job of better educated. Janusz On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:28:02 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:38:48 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" >> <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > The moon is considered a "terrestrial" planet, or a "minor" planet. Earth, Mercury, Venus Mars are terrestrial (or rocky planets). Funny I don't see the moon in that list. BTW 'minor' planets are asteroids. > While the definition of what a planet is, exactly, is currently in flux, >the moon has previously been considered a planet, and may soon be considered >a "major" planet like the rest. The current IAU list of planets, in the Solar system, is Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Damn, I can't find the moon in that list. Your 'soon' is a few billion years (when the barycenter moves outside of the earth) according to the 2006 IAU definition of a planet. By which point the sun will have become a red giant and gobbled up the Earth and the moon.. >> If you think America owns the moon then you're deluded. > > Sorry, Chump: > > http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/finderskeepers/male Yeah, I'm sure that will impress the judge in a court > It's the standard that explorers have use for claiming territory since >recorded history began. Article II of the Outer Space Treaty: "outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means". The US signed and ratified that treaty. Experts of international space law state that the Moon falls under the legal concept of res communis, which means that it belongs to a group of people, and may be used by every member of the group, but cannot be appropriated by anyone Your education is really faulty >>> And makes us, by far, the most powerful country in the world. >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Is it Spring, or something?? Yawn, usual rant from bitter overweight middle-aged Merkin who thinks the US is God's gift to the universe. > Well if you think the moon is a planet then the American school system you > went through is definitely faulty. If you think America owns the moon then > you're deluded. Well, if you go back through history, one of the factors in claiming ownership for a particular piece of land was for the explorer to plant hi flag on it... We did that... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 2 Mar, 06:11, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > Well if you think the moon is a planet then the American school system you > > went through is definitely faulty. If you think America owns the moon then [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ownership for a particular piece of land was for the explorer to plant hi > flag on it... We did that... Outer Space Treaty of 1967, Article II Janusz > Outer Space Treaty of 1967, Article II Liberal bullshit... We planted the flag there, it's ours... You don't like it? Go plant your own fuckin' flag... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. On 2 Mar, 09:56, Grumman-581 <grumman581-usenet-2...@spambob.net> wrote: > > Outer Space Treaty of 1967, Article II > > Liberal bullshit... No, it's a law (dura lex sed lex) and it was ratified by your country. > We planted the flag there, it's ours... Yes, I know it's your flag. BTW is it still there? > You don't like it? Go plant your own fuckin' flag... After you. You plant your Loon Star flag and I'll adjust it a little bit. Janusz > -- > See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. > No, it's a law (dura lex sed lex) and it was ratified by your country. And treaties never get dissolved? > Yes, I know it's your flag. BTW is it still there? Pro |
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