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Angry White Men
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Lee Bell - 19 Feb 2008 15:21 GMT I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of it. Take it as you will, or don't.
Lee
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There is a great amount of interest in this year's presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates - a woman and an African-American - while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary about their party's nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.
Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.
There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.
His common traits are that he isn't looking for anything from anyone - just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.
The victimhood syndrome buzzwords - "disenfranchised," "marginalized" and "voiceless" - don't resonate with him. "Press 'one' for English" is a curse-word to him. He's used to picking up the tab, whether it's the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.
He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a "living document" open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.
The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he's willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn't bother him.
The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina - he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.
His last name and religion don't matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.
He's a man's man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn't ask for a penny. He's the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.
Women either love him or hate him, but they know he's a man, not a dishrag. If they're looking for someone to walk all over, they've got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says "Yes, sir" and "No, ma'am."
He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.
He's not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He's willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.
Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don't pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.
He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It's not that she is a woman. It's that she is who she is. It's the liberal victim groups she panders to, the "poor me" attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.
There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.
He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.
Greg Mossman - 19 Feb 2008 15:52 GMT > I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of > it. Take it as you will, or don't. More off-topic right-wing propaganda? What a surprise/
Angry white male. What a joke.
A bunch of whining rednecks pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next president is what this sounds like to me. In other words, more of the usual. Get over it.
Chris Guynn - 19 Feb 2008 17:19 GMT ------------------------------------------ On Feb 19, 7:21 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of > it. Take it as you will, or don't. More off-topic right-wing propaganda? What a surprise/
Angry white male. What a joke.
A bunch of whining rednecks pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next president is what this sounds like to me. In other words, more of the usual. Get over it. -----------------------------------------
I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run.
I'm pissed off that there are no good choices in the election (or, at least, none that stand a chance of winning).
Grumman-581 - 19 Feb 2008 18:03 GMT > I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next > president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote > for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run. Colin Powell had a sex change operation?
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Chris Guynn - 19 Feb 2008 18:34 GMT > > I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next > > president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote > > for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run. > > Colin Powell had a sex change operation? You're close.
I wanted the opportunity to vote for Condi.
JOF - 19 Feb 2008 19:09 GMT > > Colin Powell had a sex change operation? > > You're close. I don't think getting screwed by yer friends constitutes a sex change.
JF
Greg Mossman - 19 Feb 2008 18:59 GMT > I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next > president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote > for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run. > > I'm pissed off that there are no good choices in the election (or, at least, > none that stand a chance of winning). But you're not one of Lee's Angry White Men, are you?
"He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner," doesn't exactly sound like the Angry White Man would want his U.S. President to be the same sex as his irrational emotional wife. God forbid she might get PMS and invade Iraq or something.
Chris Guynn - 19 Feb 2008 20:03 GMT ---------------------------------------------- On Feb 19, 9:19 am, "Chris Guynn" <chris.gu...@gamil.com> wrote:
> I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next > president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote > for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run. > > I'm pissed off that there are no good choices in the election (or, at least, > none that stand a chance of winning). But you're not one of Lee's Angry White Men, are you?
"He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner," doesn't exactly sound like the Angry White Man would want his U.S. President to be the same sex as his irrational emotional wife. God forbid she might get PMS and invade Iraq or something. -----------------------------------------------
"We made her female so she would be more docile and controllable" "You must not get out much."
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Chris Guynn - 19 Feb 2008 20:05 GMT --------------------------------------------- On Feb 19, 9:19 am, "Chris Guynn" <chris.gu...@gamil.com> wrote:
> I'm not pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next > president. As a matter of fact, I was hoping for the opportunity to vote > for a black woman in this election. Alas, she decided not to run. > > I'm pissed off that there are no good choices in the election (or, at least, > none that stand a chance of winning). But you're not one of Lee's Angry White Men, are you? ---------------------------------------------
Sorry, I forgot to add this in my other reply.
I am a white man. I am angry (that we don't have any good options for president). I *may not* be "one of Lee's Angry White Men. I'd have to go back and read it closer to say for sure.
Greg Mossman - 19 Feb 2008 18:28 GMT > > I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of > > it. Take it as you will, or don't. > > More off-topic right-wing propaganda? What a surprise/ By the way, since Lee never credits his sources as he probably has no idea where they come from, this article was an op-ed in the Aspen Times Weekly by Gary Hubbell, published 2/9/08.
Here's Gary's commercial website: http://aspenranchrealestate.com/
Maybe JOF could take some lessons. A real estate agent who can organize prairie-dog killing expeditions? What a man.
"IT AIN'T BRAGGIN' IF YOU CAN DO IT Are you looking for a fly-fishing getaway for your family that's still close to good restaurants and a little nightlife? What about a horse ranch where you can raise and train cutting horses? Or is an English riding stable more your style? A high-mountain cabin retreat, a productive cattle ranch, a hunting lodge with private land access for elk and mule deer hunting, or a vacation ski home in Aspen, Breckenridge, or Vail--Gary Hubbell can find you just the right real estate for your adventurous lifestyle."
"Not only can Gary Hubbell read the fine print in a contract, he knows how to lead a pack string into the mountains and bring out a trophy elk."
Guess what? The American economy, particular the real estate market, is in the toilet. No one, especially not the laid-off Angry White Man, is buying a vacation ski home with English riding stable nowadays. Gary is probably going so broke he's forced to writing columns in the local rag for extra cash. No wonder why he's angry. Angry White Men with Guns. The Aspen Post Office had better be scared.
Remember Columbine! (wasn't that a couple junior Angry White Men also from Colorado who shot up the place? must be a coincidence)
dazed and confuzzed - 20 Feb 2008 00:04 GMT >>I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of >>it. Take it as you will, or don't. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is going to be our next president is what this sounds like to me. In > other words, more of the usual. Get over it. I would welcome a decent black or woman (or a black woman) as a presidential candidate.
Just not either of the two that you choose.
TO begin with, they are liberals, then there is (are) their other views.
I may well vote "none of the above"
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eeo - 22 Feb 2008 00:34 GMT More off-topic right-wing propaganda? What a surprise/
Angry white male. What a joke.
A bunch of whining rednecks pissed off that either a black or a woman is going to be our next president is what this sounds like to me. In other words, more of the usual. Get over it.
================================================== You will notice that no mention was made of Obama. Angry white men might brave enough to be openly misogynistic but they remain closet racists.
Greg Mossman - 22 Feb 2008 00:43 GMT On Feb 21, 4:34 pm, "eeo" <eeolson(people in Hawaii actually like spam)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> More off-topic right-wing propaganda? What a surprise/ > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You will notice that no mention was made of Obama. Angry white men might > brave enough to be openly misogynistic but they remain closet racists. Closet racists? You've obviously been absent for a while. Several of them came out of the closet.
Scott - 22 Feb 2008 02:15 GMT > You will notice that no mention was made of Obama. Angry white men might > brave enough to be openly misogynistic but they remain closet racists. The two of you define modern bigotry.
Thank The Fathers for writing a Constitution that limits your ability to lynch all those that dont think like you do, and at the same time, protect your rights.
Hillary and Bill are criminals. Period.
You dont care, because your partisan bigotry only allows you to project your bullshit onto others.
You dont have the balls, guts or moral fiber to be honest.
ben bradlee - 19 Feb 2008 17:24 GMT "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:j.102227$K27.16859@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
My thanks to Democrat Lee Bell, a devout Jewish liberal, for protesting the NRAs unequal treatment of an American First Lady. You go Lee!
Lee Bell - 19 Feb 2008 19:48 GMT > My thanks to Democrat Lee Bell, a devout Jewish liberal, for protesting > the NRAs unequal treatment of an American First Lady. You go Lee! You got three right, better than usual.
I am a registered Democrat. I am devout, but not Jewish. I'm not protesting the NRA's treatment of anyone, but it is unequal. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that. Inequality is kind of the essence of elections. If it weren't unequal, we'd never elect anyone. If you're talking about Hillary, she's neither First, nor a Lady. Considering Bill's affairs with others, I'm not sure she ever was first. I have my doubts about whether she was ever a lady too.
Lee
Joe English - 19 Feb 2008 19:58 GMT >>My thanks to Democrat Lee Bell, a devout Jewish liberal, for protesting >>the NRAs unequal treatment of an American First Lady. You go Lee! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Lee and hell, Hillary might just get PMS and invade Iran
mat.voss - 20 Feb 2008 14:04 GMT > and hell, Hillary might just get PMS and invade Iran PMS=? Post menopause syndrom?
Matthias
dechucka - 20 Feb 2008 00:07 GMT >I did not write this. It is not my words, but I find I agree with most of >it. Take it as you will, or don't. [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, > and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum. sounds loke a horses hoof to me
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