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cameraflyer77@gmail.com - 07 Feb 2008 07:17 GMT
First off, I don't get a commission.  If your looking for underwater
DVD for off season, check out these guys.  http://hd2o.tv  Found it
online and just got it this stuff is like art with music. No lessons,
travel info, boat rides involved.  Entirely underwater.  They're cool,
so thought I'd pass the word.  T
Grumman-581 - 07 Feb 2008 08:12 GMT
> First off, I don't get a commission.  If your looking for underwater DVD
> for off season, check out these guys.  http://hd2o.tv  Found it online and
> just got it this stuff is like art with music. No lessons, travel info,
> boat rides involved.  Entirely underwater.  They're cool, so thought I'd
> pass the word.  T

Yeah, let's see... They're located in Las Vegas... You're posting from Las
Vegas... Not related, huh?  Likely story...

I'll take some green eggs with the spam...

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Hoges in WA - 07 Feb 2008 08:45 GMT
>> First off, I don't get a commission.  If your looking for underwater DVD
>> for off season, check out these guys.  http://hd2o.tv  Found it online
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>
> I'll take some green eggs with the spam...

Can you tell me how you can tell he's  posting from Las Vegas.
I've often wondered how you can work that out - I can't see where you see
it.
ta
Hoges in wA
Grumman-581 - 07 Feb 2008 09:23 GMT
> Can you tell me how you can tell he's  posting from Las Vegas. I've
> often wondered how you can work that out - I can't see where you see it.

Look in the NNTP headers... In his case, there is a field
NNTP-Posting-Host with a value of "71.50.73.102"... Go to somewhere like
"www.geoiptool.com" and plug it in... Just like when I plug your IP
address from your headers (124.182.56.41), I find out that you (or at
least your ISP) is located in Perth, Western Australia...
http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=124.182.56.41

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Hoges in WA - 07 Feb 2008 09:30 GMT
>> Can you tell me how you can tell he's  posting from Las Vegas. I've
>> often wondered how you can work that out - I can't see where you see it.
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> least your ISP) is located in Perth, Western Australia...
> http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=124.182.56.41

I am wiser now than I was before I asked.
Thanks for that.  I'm off to play with my new bit of knowledge.

With regards to mine, I'm actually about 180kms south of Perth but that's
probably where Telstra runs the main servers.

Hoges in WA
Grumman-581 - 07 Feb 2008 15:16 GMT
> With regards to mine, I'm actually about 180kms south of Perth but that's
> probably where Telstra runs the main servers.

Within 180 kms, that's pretty close... Actually, it is probably the
location of the company's administration offices instead of the actual
server farm... It's not perfect, but it works well enough to know where
someone is located in a very general manner... It gets within 25 miles of
where I really am...

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dechucka - 07 Feb 2008 21:48 GMT
>> With regards to mine, I'm actually about 180kms south of Perth but that's
>> probably where Telstra runs the main servers.
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> someone is located in a very general manner... It gets within 25 miles of
> where I really am...

Used to be more accurate when people were on dial up iirc well it was for my
address. I'm now listed as Melbourne which is about 750 kms to the South so
you are correct in suggesting that sometimes the company's Admin centre is
listed.
Grumman-581 - 07 Feb 2008 23:16 GMT
> I'm now listed as Melbourne which is about 750 kms to the South so you
> are correct in suggesting that sometimes the company's Admin centre is
> listed.

750 kms?  That's a bit off... It pretty much narrows it down to the
*country* at least... <grin>

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dechucka - 08 Feb 2008 00:07 GMT
>> I'm now listed as Melbourne which is about 750 kms to the South so you
>> are correct in suggesting that sometimes the company's Admin centre is
>> listed.
>
> 750 kms?  That's a bit off... It pretty much narrows it down to the
> *country* at least... <grin>

not quite, from Cape York ( top of Queensland ) to Melbourne ( which isn't
quite the bottom of Victoria ) is about 3 500 kms. Going East - west ,
Sydney to Perth ( neither of which are the most easterly/Westerly  places it
is ) it is about 3 200 kms say 2000miles. Land area is just a bit smaller
the continental USA ( excluding Alaska I think ).

There a few uninteresting facts about Australia
Grumman-581 - 08 Feb 2008 01:46 GMT
> not quite, from Cape York ( top of Queensland ) to Melbourne ( which isn't
> quite the bottom of Victoria ) is about 3 500 kms. Going East - west ,
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> There a few uninteresting facts about Australia

And that works out to be how many 'roos per capita?  Or are they measured
per household?

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dechucka - 08 Feb 2008 02:06 GMT
>> not quite, from Cape York ( top of Queensland ) to Melbourne ( which
>> isn't
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> And that works out to be how many 'roos per capita?  Or are they measured
> per household?

Bit hard to tell but the estimates for the 4 harvested types varied between
15million and 50 million over the last 20 years. For further information
http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/kangaroos.html
On 8 February 2008 at 13:04:45 (Canberra time), the resident population of
Australia is projected to be: 21 205 932
Hoges in WA - 07 Feb 2008 10:58 GMT
>> Can you tell me how you can tell he's  posting from Las Vegas. I've
>> often wondered how you can work that out - I can't see where you see it.
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> least your ISP) is located in Perth, Western Australia...
> http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=124.182.56.41

IE definitely does not like that site.

It starts up, shows what looks like a GoogleEarth map of WA then crashes
with the message that IE couldn't display the page.

Don't know what's doing it??

Hoges in WA
Don Gingrich - 07 Feb 2008 11:29 GMT
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581-usenet-2008@spambob.net> wrote in message

news:pan.2008.02.07.09.13.33.719000@grumman581-usenet-2008-spambob-net...

>>> Can you tell me how you can tell he's  posting from Las Vegas.
>>> I've often wondered how you can work that out - I can't see where
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>
> IE definitely does not like that site.

Stuffed if I know. I run Linux and either Firefox or Konquerer
Firefox likes it just fine.

It's a bit out of whack re the locations. Last I checked,
the house was in Southeast Melbourne. The site tells me
I'm in Boondall, Qld. Either I'm not in Kansas anymore,
or Internode doesn't allocate their fixed addresses
particularly geographically. Further, I checked the
headers of my posts and noticed that there's no
NNTP-Posting-Host line. Ah, well. Too bad the address
isn't right -- warm water all year... WooHoo! But
I guess it really isn't that cold here. (9C 48F is
the worst I've seen)

But an interesting toy, none-the-less. I've always
used the "follow the money" approach to tracking spam.
I operate on the assumption that the people who are
really behind the spam are likely to be at or near
the web site they're sending you to, assuming that
the spam is selling something or is a Nigerian con
or whatever. (Pump-and-Dumps are a different matter,
though.)

> It starts up, shows what looks like a GoogleEarth map of WA then
> crashes with the message that IE couldn't display the page.
>
> Don't know what's doing it??
>
> Hoges in WA
Grumman-581 - 07 Feb 2008 09:25 GMT
<snip>

As a side note... Not every news provider puts the IP address in the NNTP
headers and some do not reflect where the user is actually located...
There are some anonymous proxy servers that some people use that hide
their real IP addresses...

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