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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 05 Feb 2008 14:43 GMT
66 years, never needed a gun.

2 teen girls sentenced for beating senior in park
Last Updated: Monday, February 4, 2008 | 2:28 PM AT
CBC News
Two teenage girls were sentenced Monday to 12 months in custody for beating
a 66-year-old woman with metal table legs last summer in Halifax.

Judge Pam Williams rejected a joint recommendation from the Crown and
defence for eight-month sentences for the two 16-year olds, saying she
agonized over it for a week.

Williams pointed out the girls, along with another girl, attacked a
completely innocent woman who was walking through the Halifax Common, beat
her and only stopped when a passerby intervened.

She said the fact the attackers covered their faces with bandanas implied
premeditation.

The two teenagers sat quietly in youth court Monday. They stared at the
floor for most of the hour-and-a-half it took the judge to hand down the
sentences.

The 66-year-old victim did not appear in court. Her husband was there, but
refused to comment on the judge's decision.

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The woman suffered a broken rib and severe bruising in the Aug. 27 attack.

Williams said it was sad that one of the teens committed the assault so she
could return to jail, a place where she said she felt safe, and had food and
a bed.

The teens, from Halifax and North Preston, cannot be named under the Youth
Criminal Justice Act. They have already served time at the Waterville youth
detention centre.

The teenagers had pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and possession of a
weapon for a dangerous purpose.

A 15-year-old girl from Halifax was sentenced last month to 30 days, in
addition to the four months she has already spent locked up.

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Does anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop
killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball
bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people,
and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones.
And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to
commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder.
I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too.
I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on
anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the
mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper

           Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com
       http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762

Greg Mossman - 05 Feb 2008 16:26 GMT
On Feb 5, 6:43 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
>    66 years, never needed a gun.

> The woman suffered a broken rib and severe bruising in the Aug. 27 attack.

Bruises?  A broken rib?  These Canadian kids don't know what they're
missing.  If only they had easy access to guns like some of the
American kids from today's Top Stories:

Jonesboro shooter arrested again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/jonesboro_shooter;_ylt=Aq2lyBGZQ
j0BLrqqwUHRxo9vzwcF


Md. Scout held without bail in killings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/family_killed;_ylt=Arj.A0k9zt7dM
5FNqH_VCG9vzwcF


Besides, if she did have a gun, the chances are more likely than not
that the kids would have taken it from her and gone on to use it on
someone else.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 05 Feb 2008 20:11 GMT
On Feb 5, 6:43 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> 66 years, never needed a gun.

> The woman suffered a broken rib and severe bruising in the Aug. 27 attack.

Bruises?  A broken rib?  These Canadian kids don't know what they're
missing.  If only they had easy access to guns like some of the
American kids from today's Top Stories:

   But they do have easy access to guns.

Jonesboro shooter arrested again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/jonesboro_shooter;_ylt=Aq2lyBGZQ
j0BLrqqwUHRxo9vzwcF


   On the other hand, that "arrested again" thing might be and indicator of
a justice system problem to me.

   Or maybe "A federal jury convicted Johnson last week of possessing a gun
while being a user of or addicted to a controlled substance..."

   That was before this arrest, right?

   I find it pretty odd since you have me and the guys guilty before
commission of a crime, but you can't keep this guy in the hole.

Md. Scout held without bail in killings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/family_killed;_ylt=Arj.A0k9zt7dM
5FNqH_VCG9vzwcF


   And I don't know what this has to do with self defense either, but you
sure are convinced of your own failure.

Besides, if she did have a gun, the chances are more likely than not
that the kids would have taken it from her and gone on to use it on
someone else.

   Not according to scores of previous cites.

   Still, the decision to be armed, and the decision to be improperly
trained, are both choices.

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Does anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop
killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball
bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people,
and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones.
And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to
commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder.
I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too.
I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on
anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the
mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper

           Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com
       http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762

Joe English - 05 Feb 2008 21:29 GMT
> On Feb 5, 6:43 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Jonesboro shooter arrested again
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/jonesboro_shooter;_ylt=Aq2lyBGZQ
j0BLrqqwUHRxo9vzwcF

Arrested again?????  Wonder why?  If it were up to the law-abiidng
citizens who chose to protect themselves it wouln not be the case.  Why
was he on the sreets to be arrested again?

> Md. Scout held without bail in killings
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_re_us/family_killed;_ylt=Arj.A0k9zt7dM
5FNqH_VCG9vzwcF

>
> Besides, if she did have a gun, the chances are more likely than not
> that the kids would have taken it from her and gone on to use it on
> someone else.
 
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