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Scuba Forum / General / February 2008What are people trained to do these days
I read this article http://www.scubazine.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=557 bout two English people who almost drowned while diving... The reason they almost drowned is the man mask flooded at 6m and he paniced and couldn't find his weight belt to release it. You have got to be joking. You mask floods and you panic. If they were qualified is it not the first thing they teach you to clear a mask. If they were on a course where was the instructor and didn't they do some pool time? All sounds like two people doing something they were not trained for.  Signature____________________________ Lee E. J. Arnould Web Slave http://www.ScubaZine.com mb:0419896933 skype:scubazine msn:scubazine > I read this article... > bout two English people who almost drowned while diving... The reason [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You have got to be joking. You mask floods and you panic. If they were > qualified is it not the first thing they teach you to clear a mask. Unfortunately, its no joke. A friend of mine has had similar mask- panic problems with divers who were previously certified and taking an AOW training class from them when the incident occurred. > If they were on a course where was the instructor and didn't they do > some pool time? > > All sounds like two people doing something they were not trained for. Actually, it sounds merely like the old internet discussion about the inadequacy of current training standards as it has been implemented by the industry. -hh >> I read this article... >> bout two English people who almost drowned while diving... The reason [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >-hh Or the inadequacy of students. They all seem to believe there is a law somewhere that says they won't get hurt > I read this article Not very well... > http://www.scubazine.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=557 > > bout two English people who almost drowned while diving... The reason > they almost drowned is the man mask flooded at 6m and he paniced and > couldn't find his weight belt to release it. They were in Australia tho, what do you expect from Aussie training ;-) > You have got to be joking. You mask floods and you panic. If they were > qualified is it not the first thing they teach you to clear a mask. > > If they were on a course where was the instructor and didn't they do > some pool time? Article clearly says they did pool time. But I agree, 'man found unconcious on surface' definitly sounds like he wasn't monitored properly > All sounds like two people doing something they were not trained for. They were undergoing training, hope they failed - as they clearly failed to demonstrate mask clearing ;-) > They were in Australia tho, what do you expect from Aussie training ;-) Obviously their problem was that they were upside down... If they had been in the northern hemisphere, they wouldn't have had that problem... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> They were in Australia tho, what do you expect from Aussie training ;-) > >Obviously their problem was that they were upside down... If they had been >in the northern hemisphere, they wouldn't have had that problem... >See NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. But did they get the can of fosters open ? >>> They were in Australia tho, what do you expect from Aussie training ;-) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > But did they get the can of fosters open ? I think they would be drinking Castle beer, Simon Town is in South Africa. Actually has some very nice diving >> They were in Australia tho, what do you expect from Aussie training ;-) > > Obviously their problem was that they were upside down... If they had been > in the northern hemisphere, they wouldn't have had that problem... Come again? They were where? Hoges in WA >I read this article > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > If they were on a course where was the instructor and didn't they do some > pool time? "the 54-year-old man's goggles " Well, there you go, he should have been wearing a proper mask. <plonk> Deep. > bout two English people who almost drowned while diving... The reason > they almost drowned is the man mask flooded at 6m and he paniced and > couldn't find his weight belt to release it. Why would he need to release his weight belt? So he could embolize instead of drowning? Drowning is more treatable than an AGE. > You have got to be joking. You mask floods and you panic. If they were > qualified is it not the first thing they teach you to clear a mask. Big IF > All sounds like two people doing something they were not trained for. Most certified divers are doing something they were not trained for, or at least begging for something they were not trained for. In an activity where panic can so easily kill, responsible, prudent training will involve steps to gauge and/or push back the trainee's panic threshold. However, that involves personal growth through adversity, something that has fallen way out of fashion in the world. Dive training has changed to accommodate this fashion, Yet another way society is working overtime to encourage the Paris Hilton approach to life. In article <9b508da6-ad38-485e-b395-dd4b2e16e0d4@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, dweebgs@gmail.com writes > Dive training has >changed to accommodate this fashion, Yet another way society is >working overtime to encourage the Paris Hilton approach to life. Wot! No knickers? SignatureMick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2. >In article ><9b508da6-ad38-485e-b395-dd4b2e16e0d4@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Wot! No knickers? Hey ! A person like her has to save money where she can |
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