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Scuba Forum / General / January 2008Dear Geekmeisters-
Riddle me this; Since about the end of the century, I haven't been able to see Dan Bracuk's posts. And just recently, I can't see Dennis's posts. I got Windows Mail through Supernews. What's up with that? Is this some Dark Side Of The Force plot? Microscopic Chinese Communists? What? Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > Riddle me this; > > Since about the end of the century, I haven't been able to see Dan > Bracuk's posts. > > And just recently, I can't see Dennis's posts. Hmm...interesting. > I got Windows Mail through Supernews. > > What's up with that? > > Is this some Dark Side Of The Force plot? It's a vast left-wing conspiracy. Next time you're down this way, I'll be happy to take a look. copied via e-mail as well. Dennis > Since about the end of the century, I haven't been able to see Dan > Bracuk's posts. I've had this same problem, sometimes. Dan seems to post from two different computers. Posts from one of them don't seem to make it. Posts from the other one do. Most of the time, he seems to be using the one that doesn't make it. > And just recently, I can't see Dennis's posts. I hadn't noticed that, yet. > I got Windows Mail through Supernews. I use Supernews as well. I'm guessing that's where the problem is. Perhaps they use some sort of spam filter, and one of Dan's ISPs is blacklisted there.  SignatureArt Greenberg artg at eclipse dot net > Riddle me this; > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > What? My first guess would have something to do with your blocked senders list. Can you turn that off and see if it makes a difference? If so, you could turn each rule on and see which one is causing the issue. >> Riddle me this; >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Can you turn that off and see if it makes a difference? If so, you could > turn each rule on and see which one is causing the issue. And, uh... Where would that be? :-) Thanks. The only two a.sholes in there are carl and Eric, but maybe I drilled someone by mistake. SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > >> Riddle me this; > >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > The only two a.sholes in there are carl and Eric, but maybe I drilled > someone by mistake. If you've only got two entries, then it's more likely on the SuperNews side and, as far as I know, there's nothing you can do about that except change providers. I don't know anything about Windows Mail, but if it's anything like Outlook Express (OE), the rules stuff will be listed in a tools menu. In OE, I'd go to Tools --> Message Rules --> Blocked Senders and then check the list for anything that looked like it might be Dennis and/or Dan. I might do the same with Tools --> Message Rules --> News Rules, if the blocked senders option didn't fix the issue, but that list is probably empty for you. On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:12:13 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in rec.scuba: > Riddle me this; > > Since about the end of the century, I haven't been able to see Dan >Bracuk's posts. > > And just recently, I can't see Dennis's posts. About a month ago, most of Dennis' posts were being delayed for about 3-4 days. I use the German individual.net server and I have no killfile for Usenet. > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:12:13 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > > About a month ago, most of Dennis' posts were being delayed for about > 3-4 days. I use the German individual.net server and I have no > killfile for Usenet. The reason I did a "teste" was because I wasn't getting anything. Even as I see this, a number of the posts in the thread have not turned up . . and this has also occurred in other threads. > I use the German individual.net server And I have no idea what that means... SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:44:58 -0500, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in rec.scuba: >> I use the German individual.net server > > And I have no idea what that means... Other folks here have been saying that they use Supernews. I don't. The server I use is individual.net. Basically,what that means is that I had similar problems and I was using a different server than the other folks that had a different NNTP server. That is another piece of information that you can use to identify and then solve your problem. On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > Riddle me this; > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 Your ISP is filtering out my ISP. You can see this post because it's posted through google groups. For Art Greenberg, I only have 1 ISP. My guess is that if I send you an email, you won't get it. > On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > My guess is that if I send you an email, you won't get it. Dan - This is the posting address that gets through. So as far as Supernews is concerned, your ISP _is_ Google. What is the other method you use to post here? AFAIK, Supernews has _nothing_ to do with email. I certainly don't use it for email. SignatureArt Greenberg artg at eclipse dot net > > On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The method I normally use is with an email client through my ISP's news server. That's not currently working. On Jan 22, 8:02 pm, bra...@axxent.ca wrote: > The method I normally use is with an email client through my ISP's > news server. That's not currently working.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - For a recent example, find the 1st post of the Soon to Be Mandatory thread. That post and this one were sent from the same computer. Art Greenberg <none@none.invalid> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Dan - This is the posting address that gets through. So as far as :Supernews is concerned, your ISP _is_ Google. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :AFAIK, Supernews has _nothing_ to do with email. I certainly don't use :it for email. This method. Popeye won't see this post unless someone quotes it. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > Art Greenberg <none@none.invalid> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > This method. Popeye won't see this post unless someone quotes it. You mean like this? > > Art Greenberg <none@none.invalid> pounded away at his keyboard > > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You mean like this? Thanks Lee. So it's Dan's pathcom.com address that isn't making it to/through Supernews. I'll see if I can get a response from Supernews about this. SignatureArt Greenberg artg at eclipse dot net > Thanks Lee. So it's Dan's pathcom.com address that isn't making it > to/through Supernews. > > I'll see if I can get a response from Supernews about this. Doug could try using motzarella.org for USENET access if all he is accessing is text newsgroups... It's free and seems fast enough... I my laptop setup to use it since when I'm travelling, I don't have access to the USENET provider that my ISP uses... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. >> > Art Greenberg <none@none.invalid> pounded away at his keyboard >> > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I'll see if I can get a response from Supernews about this. Lemme know, please? SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > >> > Art Greenberg <none@none.invalid> pounded away at his keyboard > >> > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Lemme know, please? I sent an inquiry on Wednesday. No reponse yet. It probably wouldn't hurt if others sent inquiries as well. I sent mine to mailto:abuse@supernews.com - I asked why Dan's postings don't appear in the Supernews feed, and I included a copy of the headers from one of Dan's postings via pathcom, which I got from Google Groups. I also see that Dennis' posts aren't making through Supernews, either. Looking at the headers, it doesn't look like Dan and Dennis have much in common (at least not in that respect!). If - and that might be a large IF - I do get through to a knowledgeable person at Supernews, I'll pursue both of these cases. But I can't put in a lot of time in the near term. I'll be busy with work next week and I'm on vacation (yes, a DIVING vacation) the week after. SignatureArt Greenberg artg at eclipse dot net > I also see that Dennis' posts aren't making through Supernews, > either. Looking at the headers, it doesn't look like Dan and Dennis > have much in common (at least not in that respect!). I take that back. Both Dan's and Dennis' postings are going through "usenetserver.com" on the way to Google. This may be a factor. SignatureArt Greenberg artg at eclipse dot net On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > Riddle me this; > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 Your ISP is filtering out my ISP. You can see this post because it's posted through google groups. For Art Greenberg, I only have 1 ISP. My guess is that if I send you an email, you won't get it. I didn't get it. Did we ever decide what stops the delineation marks in these posts? SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 On Jan 25, 7:46 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <bra...@axxent.ca> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Did we ever decide what stops the delineation marks in these posts? You mean the carets? I made the switch to Google because Supernews was omitting Dan's and others' posts, but also because I had other intermittent problems with posting there. But I never had a problem with my carets going away until recently. Now I notice that you and some others lose my carets when replying to my posts. Yet I don't have any problem losing my carets when replying to myself. What's up with that? Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :You mean the carets? Probably not. A caret is ascii 94 and looks like this ^. On my keyboard, you can type a caret with <shift-6> or, of course, <alt-94>. He probably meant a greater than sign. That is asciii 62 and looks like this >. On my keyboard you can type a greater than sign with <shift - .> or of course, <alt-62>. Some geekmeisters would use the term "right angle bracket" instead of "greater than sign", but I am not one of those geekmeisters. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Some geekmeisters would use the term "right angle bracket" instead of > "greater than sign", but I am not one of those geekmeisters. But when you're tilting your head sideways to look at smileys in their proper perspective, they look like carets. In any case I call them carets because chilly first started calling them carets when she complained about losing mine. Why I should trust the banana-headed lady on correct computer teminology, I have no idea. Maybe she has a trustworthy looking face. Besides, carets is easier to pronounce than greater-than-signs. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I made the switch to Google because Supernews was omitting Dan's and :others' posts, I don't post that much anyhow so you're not missing much. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message news:b651f733-9601-4031-ab4b- > Did we ever decide what stops the delineation marks in these posts? You mean the carets? >>>>>>These things. I made the switch to Google because Supernews was omitting Dan's and others' posts, but also because I had other intermittent problems with posting there. But I never had a problem with my carets going away until recently. Now I notice that you and some others lose my carets when replying to my posts. Yet I don't have any problem losing my carets when replying to myself. What's up with that? I would ass-ume it's you. I just hit reply, and they arent there. But other people's are. Someone once suggested it had to do with international settings. SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message > news:b651f733-9601-4031-ab4b- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > >>>>>>These things. Which, BTW, are not carets. The caret is above your number 6 on the qwerty (^^^^^). The punctuation chart lists these "<<<>>>" as "brackets". On Jan 25, 2:51 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Someone once suggested it had to do with international settings. Is Google international? Can I even change any relevant settings in Google? Nope, I think it's your fault. On Jan 25, 2:51 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Someone once suggested it had to do with international settings. Is Google international? Can I even change any relevant settings in Google? Nope, I think it's your fault. Could be, I dunno. I've committed far more heinous crimes. Anyone know how it works? SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 >> Someone once suggested it had to do with international settings. > >Is Google international? Can I even change any relevant settings in >Google? > >Nope, I think it's your fault. If you go to google.com in Mexico you get the Mexican version in Spanish. If you go to google.ca you get English, even while using a Mexican isp. Presumably something similar happens in other countries. JF > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:53:15 -0800 (PST), Greg Mossman > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Spanish. If you go to google.ca you get English, even while using a > Mexican isp. Presumably something similar happens in other countries. So you got greater-than-signs/carets/pointy-things when you replied to my post, but Popeye can't? Apparently Canadians have more freedom of expression than Americans. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :So you got greater-than-signs/carets/pointy-things when you replied to :my post, but Popeye can't? Apparently Canadians have more freedom of :expression than Americans. The quote character is set on each of our clients. You only see them on replies. I use colons. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The quote character is set on each of our clients. You only see them > on replies. I use colons. Right. That part I got. See my "carets"? I think that's the default in Google, not sure if there's a way to change it. When I used Outlook Express, I had the ability to change it, so I left it as a caret. But why do some people (i.e. Popeye) not get any? Like I said before, it's entirely his fault and it's unnerving. It's like talking to yourself through Popeye's mouth, like we're slowly becoming one being with a dual personality. Very unnerving. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Right. That part I got. See my "carets"? I think that's the default :in Google, not sure if there's a way to change it. When I used :Outlook Express, I had the ability to change it, so I left it as a :caret. google does use the right angle bracket as a quote character and I don't think you can change it. You can overwrite them, but that's tedious. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. On Jan 28, 2:32 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote: > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The quote character is set on each of our clients. You only see them > on replies. I use colons. Right. That part I got. See my "carets"? I think that's the default in Google, not sure if there's a way to change it. When I used Outlook Express, I had the ability to change it, so I left it as a caret. But why do some people (i.e. Popeye) not get any? Like I said before, it's entirely his fault and it's unnerving. It's like talking to yourself through Popeye's mouth, like we're slowly becoming one being with a dual personality. Very unnerving. How bout that Kennedy torpedo in the U.S.S. Hillary? ;-) Probably payback for refusing to give a bl.wj.b. I knew that flatulent old commie wino was good for something. SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: <from me> :My guess is that if I send you an email, you won't get it. : : I didn't get it. I didn't send one. If you want to test it, is popeye @ finalprotectivefire dot com the address I use? Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Dan Bracuk > Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. Here's guessing Popeye did not see the above post. On Jan 25, 5:20 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote: > "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Dan Bracuk > Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. Here's guessing Popeye did not see the above post. *************** The address is correct. Also, when I reply to your post there are no pointy things... > The address is correct. > > Also, when I reply to your post there are no pointy things... You mean carets? That's probably Popeye's fault. There weren't any caret problems around here until he brought back some sort of international setting from Canada. Must be related to bird flu. What if I use Outlook Express instead of Agent? SignatureDan & Pat Bracuk www.pathcom.com/~bracuk Last Updated October 2007 http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj291/DanBracuk/ Last Updated Dec 2007 : : *************** : : The address is correct. : : Also, when I reply to your post there are no pointy things... There they are. > What if I use Outlook Express instead of Agent? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > : > : Also, when I reply to your post there are no pointy things... >On Jan 25, 5:20 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote: >> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Also, when I reply to your post there are no pointy things... Np pointy things on your message here either. But they are added when I hit reply to. See above. JF On Jan 25, 5:20 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote: > "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > the address I use? Yes, and, Here's guessing Popeye did not see the above post. no. SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > Riddle me this; > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 I just sent you 2 emails. One was composed using Agent. The other using Outlook Express. How many did you receive? On Jan 21, 11:12 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > Riddle me this; > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Popeye/www.finalprotectivefire.com > http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 I just sent you 2 emails. One was composed using Agent. The other using Outlook Express. How many did you receive? Both, but, only on had >>>>> thingies. As this one does not. SignatureDoes anybody here really think that taking away the guns will stop killing? Or knives, or icepicks, or chains, or ropes, or baseball bats, or poisons, or cars & trucks. People are gonna kill people, and they'll always think of a new weapon if you take away the old ones. And just because I carry a potential weapon doesn't mean I intend to commit murder, or that I may be tempted to commit murder. I often carry a big ugly knife. Lots of my friends do too. I have never heard of anyone being tempted to use the knife on anyone just because they have it with them. You gotta be in the mood to do the killing and you use what's at hand. -Jeff Cooper Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 On Jan 26, 12:33 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <bra...@axxent.ca> wrote in message > Both, but, only one had >>>>> thingies. > > As this one does not. Thingies is a good word. It is more accurate that carets and easier to pronounce than greater than signs. |
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