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Scuba Forum / General / January 2008Diving Shortsighted
Hi there, I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually I have to wear either glasses or contact lenses. Do diving holiday companies make any provision for this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:29:25 -0800, jimboss007 wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually I > have to wear either glasses or contact lenses. Do diving holiday > companies make any provision for this? "Diving holiday companies"? I'm not sure what you're talking about here... In the sport of diving, there are a couple of companies (or individuals) that you will deal with... 1. The shop or individual that teaches you how to dive / gets you certified. 2. The shop or company where you buy your dive gear, although some dive gear is rentable if you so desire. 3. The shop where you get your air fills. 4. The shop or boat that arranges provides the transportation to the dive site. Not all of these have to exist for all divers... Here's some notes that I've made concerning SCUBA certification... http://grumman581.googlepages.com/scuba-certification Depending upon how bad your eyesight is, you might want to consider wearing contacts with a normal mask or having a prescription mask... This has been discussed quite a bit around here, so you can search the Google Groups archives for previous threads about this...  SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. >On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:29:25 -0800, jimboss007 wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> have to wear either glasses or contact lenses. Do diving holiday >> companies make any provision for this? I am sure the dive shops will be happy to accomodate you. They can sell you prescription masks, or even special contacts for underwater use. All at a reasonable price of less than 10 times a normal mask or soft contact set. -- mrr On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:29:25 -0800, jimboss007 wrote: <snip> I just noticed from your IP address that you're posting from the UK (Ripe in East Sussex according to geoiptool.com)... You might want to consider asking your question over on uk.rec.scuba... I've heard that hey do things a bit different over there... Oh well, what can you expect from people who drink their beer *warm*... SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:29:25 -0800, jimboss007 wrote: > > <snip> > > I just noticed from your IP address that you're posting from the UK > (Ripe in East Sussex according to geoiptool.com)... Hehe you Americans are SO insular... Ripe is a IP database not a place in East Sussex ;-) Hey, I'm thinking of coming over soon - fancy seeing MSDOS in California - heard its lovely this time of year ;-) You might want to > consider asking your question over on uk.rec.scuba... I've heard that hey > do things a bit different over there... Oh well, what can you expect from > people who drink their beer *warm*... Thats because it comes from Hops in Kent.. > Hehe you Americans are SO insular... Yeah, and you Brits are so fuckin' snobish... > Ripe is a IP database not a place in East Sussex ;-) Oh, is it? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Ripe%3B+uk&s ll=51.997565,-8.288498&sspn=0.229138,0.6427&ie=UTF8&ll=50.874445,0.154495&spn=0. 117421,0.32135&z=12&om=1 If I'm wrong, I'm just going on bad data... If you're wrong and you are located over there, it must mean that you're an idiot about your own country... > Hey, I'm thinking of coming over soon - fancy seeing MSDOS in California > - heard its lovely this time of year ;-) I'm sure you'll get along with the leftists in Kalifornia just right... Oh, by the way, Micro$soft is not in Kalifornia, they're in Washington -- Seattle area, Redmond to be precise... SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. > Hehe you Americans are SO insular... > > Ripe is a IP database not a place in East Sussex ;-) Maybe you should tell everyone else this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripe%2C_East_Sussex I'm sure wikipedia would like to know of the correction... Maybe you should tell this company that they don't exist... http://www.kudosfoods.co.uk/ SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. >> Hehe you Americans are SO insular... >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Maybe you should tell this company that they don't exist... > http://www.kudosfoods.co.uk/ Ok, I'll grant you that Ripe seems to be a VERY small Village in East Sussex - but the info you were working on (City=RIPE) was wrong look at the whois for the OP - inetnum: 88.81.128.0 - 88.81.146.255 netname: CWGG-INFRASTRUCTUREBB-070903 descr: Cable & Wireless Guernsey ADSL Customers descr: For abuse issues please email ONLY ripe@gg.cw.net country: GB admin-c: CWGG-RIPE tech-c: CWGG-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: AS8680-MNT source: RIPE Filtered person: RIPE Contact address: Cable & Wireless Guernsey address: Upland Road address: St Peter Port address: Guernsey address: Channel Islands UK phone: 44 1481 700 700 e-mail: ripe@gg.cw.net which shows him to be on the Island of Guernsey - here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Ripe%3B+uk&s ll=51.997565,-8.288498&sspn=0.229138,0.6427&ie=UTF8&ll=50.874445,0.154495&spn=0. 117421,0.32135&z=12&om=1 or about 300 miles from East Sussex The RIPE referred to is these people: http://www.ripe.net/ " RIPE NCC The RIPE NCC is one of five Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) providing Internet resource allocations, registration services and co-ordination activities that support the operation of the Internet globally." > Ok, I'll grant you that Ripe seems to be a VERY small Village in East > Sussex - but the info you were working on (City=RIPE) was wrong look at [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Ripe%3B+uk&s ll=51.997565,-8.288498&sspn=0.229138,0.6427&ie=UTF8&ll=50.874445,0.154495&spn=0. 117421,0.32135&z=12&om=1 Hmmm... I used geoiptool for his info... http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=88.81.138.55 If they are wrong, I'm sure that they would like to know it so that they could fix their system... I have to wonder if the internet database perhaps does not have lat/long coordinates associated with it and they are just using another database to lookup that information... If so, that could explain how that could occur... Your link above points to the same place that I sent you... You're probably not getting a new link from the "link to this page" option on the upper right part of the screen... > or about 300 miles from East Sussex Well, 300 miles probably seems a bit larger to you folks than it does to us here in Texas... Since you didn't know that there was a Ripe in East Sussex, perhaps you can't use this as an excuse to call us yanks "insular"? <snicker> SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. >> Ok, I'll grant you that Ripe seems to be a VERY small Village in East >> Sussex - but the info you were working on (City=RIPE) was wrong look at [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >Since you didn't know that there was a Ripe in East Sussex, perhaps you >can't use this as an excuse to call us yanks "insular"? <snicker> This is what I found % This is the RIPE Whois query server #1. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html % Information related to '88.81.128.0 - 88.81.146.255' inetnum: 88.81.128.0 - 88.81.146.255 netname: CWGG-INFRASTRUCTUREBB-070903 descr: Cable & Wireless Guernsey ADSL Customers descr: For abuse issues please email ONLY ****@gg.cw.net country: GB admin-c: CWGG-RIPE tech-c: CWGG-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: AS8680-MNT changed: ****@gg.cw.net 20070918 source: RIPE person: RIPE Contact address: Cable & Wireless Guernsey address: Upland Road address: St Peter Port address: Guernsey address: Channel Islands UK phone: +44 1481 700 700 e-mail: ****@gg.cw.net nic-hdl: CWGG-RIPE changed: ***********@cwgg.cwplc.com 20040126 source: RIPE % Information related to '88.81.138.0/24AS8680' route: 88.81.138.0/24 descr: C+W Guernsey origin: AS8680 mnt-by: AS8680-MNT source: RIPE changed: ****@ggcw.net 20061129 % Information related to '88.81.128.0/19AS8680' route: 88.81.128.0/19 descr: C+W Guernsey origin: AS8680 mnt-by: AS8680-MNT source: RIPE changed: ****@gg.cw.net 20070926 >> which shows him to be on the Island of Guernsey - here: >> >> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Ripe%3B+uk&s ll=51.997565,-8.288498&sspn=0.229138,0.6427&ie=UTF8&ll=50.874445,0.154495&spn=0. 117421,0.32135&z=12&om=1 Should be http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=guernsey&i e=UTF8&ll=51.399206,-2.592773&spn=11.361038,29.882813&z=5&iwloc=addr&om=1 as you say below, posted your link. Its actually an Island off France, tho part of UK. A LONG way away in UK terms... > Hmmm... I used geoiptool for his info... > http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=88.81.138.55 If its any use they are 70 miles out with my location - which is a lot of population in the overcrowded UK. > If they are wrong, I'm sure that they would like to know it so that they > could fix their system... I have to wonder if the internet database > perhaps does not have lat/long coordinates associated with it and they are > just using another database to lookup that information... If so, that > could explain how that could occur... It doesn't, I've never had a lot of joy with these positioning tools - at best they give the region covered by the ISP - which might be great if the provider is Rhode Island Telecom and deals with that area alone- but here in the UK an ISP might cover 1 million people in 200 square miles- on ONE of his franchises alone. > Well, 300 miles probably seems a bit larger to you folks than it does to > us here in Texas... > > Since you didn't know that there was a Ripe in East Sussex, perhaps you > can't use this as an excuse to call us yanks "insular"? <snicker> Ahh but Ripe is one of about 16,000 minor villages (about 10 houses)in the UK, and I can't knw them all. Now if it had a dive site! ;-) > If its any use they are 70 miles out with my location - which is a lot > of population in the overcrowded UK. 70 miles isn't even all the way across town here in Houston... > It doesn't, I've never had a lot of joy with these positioning tools - > at best they give the region covered by the ISP - which might be great > if the provider is Rhode Island Telecom and deals with that area alone- > but here in the UK an ISP might cover 1 million people in 200 square > miles- on ONE of his franchises alone. I find they work well enough most times... Even in this case, they narrowed it down to an area around the southern part of the UK... After checking it, I suspsected that at the very least, the terms used over there are different than here... We would call it "nearsighted", not "shortsighted"... Over here, the term "shortsighted" is used to mean "lacking foresight" whereas "nearsighted" is used as a term for someone needing glasses for viewing things at a distance... Although the dictionary does give "nearsighted" as an alternate definition for "shortsighted", in practice, it is rarely, if ever, used that way over here... It also explained the phrase "diving holiday company" which we don't hear over here... Supposedly, we speak the same language... <grin> > Ahh but Ripe is one of about 16,000 minor villages (about 10 houses)in > the UK, and I can't knw them all. Now if it had a dive site! ;-) Ahhh, but you see, that's what makes us different... If you had posted the name of some small town and claimed it was in Texas, I would have looked it up because I know very well that there a lot of different communities here and the odds are that there might be one with any particular name on it... Hell, we even have a London, Liverpool, Manchester, Tunis, Naples, Milano, Paris, and Moscow here in Texas... SignatureAbove email address not valid. Look in NNTP headers for real contact info. > Ahh but Ripe is one of about 16,000 minor villages (about 10 houses)in > the UK, and I can't knw them all. Now if it had a dive site! ;-) There's two scuba divers who live over in Cowfold (Horsham, West Sussex), if that helps :-) -hh >> Ahh but Ripe is one of about 16,000 minor villages (about 10 houses)in >> the UK, and I can't knw them all. Now if it had a dive site! ;-) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -hh Have you got a very deep duck pond? > >> Ahh but Ripe is one of about 16,000 minor villages (about 10 houses)in > >> the UK, and I can't knw them all. Now if it had a dive site! ;-) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Have you got a very deep duck pond? I'm not in Cowfold - its where a couple of friends of mine happen to live. I've just enjoyed the village name, and I've been invited back, as they're looking for friends who are willing to learn how to do horsehair plastering. -hh jimboss007@googlemail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually :I have to wear either glasses or contact lenses. Do diving holiday :companies make any provision for this? Wear your contacts inside your mask. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > jimboss007@googlemail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > :I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Dan Bracuk And carry some spares or glasses. If your mask comes off under water and you open your eyes, your contacts are sure to float away. If not you may want to ditch them anyway as they can get contaminated by impurities in the water. > > jimboss007@googlemail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > > :I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Dan Bracuk Depends on just how short-sighted Jim Boss really is. When I first started, I didn't wear my contacts whilst diving because the water magnifies 25% or so and that took care of things to a certain extent. After I had more confidence, I began to wear my contact lenses. > And carry some spares or glasses. If your mask comes off under water and > you open your eyes, your contacts are sure to float away. If not you may > want to ditch them anyway as they can get contaminated by impurities in the > water. I never lost a contact lens, though once or twice I would think I had because with a bit of water in my eye would have the contact float up on my eyeball. I just had to blink out the excess water a few times and the lens would float back down into its proper position. That said, when removing my mask, I always squinted a bit to make sure the contacts didn't float away. As for your comment about "ditching the contacts", I agree. Get the daily disposables. > Hi there, > > I'm interested in going scuba diving but I am shortsighted so usually > I have to wear either glasses or contact lenses. Do diving holiday > companies make any provision for this? I'm nearsighted - I have a mask that matches my prescription that I wear while diving. > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dennis > Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks You can buy stick in lens from most scuba shops really cheaply. (They stick in the mask, not your eyes btw!) > Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks I highly recommend disposable contacts if that's an option. I've been diving with them for years. I can even remove my mask with them in (and put it back on, smartasses). Of course you can't open your eyes underwater, but personally salt water stings me too much for that anyway. My disposables come in individual little bubble packs. I always carry about six spares in my kit, so even if I both on each dive I'm okay for the day. But I've never lost one yet. See if your optometrist can get you some...it may be that you wouldn't be able to wear disposables for normal use (if you have astigmatism or something like that) but if you explain you'd only use them for diving, he might cut you some slack. Otherwise...get custom contacts and be careful with the mask, or a prescription mask if you don't like sticking things in your eye (took me a while to learn). Good luck! -Amanda Amanda <chicagofish@hotspambaitmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I highly recommend disposable contacts if that's an option. I've been :diving with them for years. I can even remove my mask with them in (and :put it back on, smartasses). Of course you can't open your eyes :underwater, but personally salt water stings me too much for that anyway. That's the 2nd best option. 1st is lasik. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > That's the 2nd best option. 1st is lasik. I'm not so certain of that... It depends upon how bad your prescription really is... Mine is around -1.25 to -1.50 and I can get away without prescription lenses in my mask if I want... It's nice having the prescription lenses when I get back on the surface though to be able to see the boat or shore... <grin> The Navy is pretty picky about what type of eye surgery is allowed for pilots and divers / special warfare personnel... If I was getting eye surgery, I would definitely consider something that the Navy has confidence in vs whatever the latest craze might be... http://www.usaeyes.org/lasik/library/navy-prk-fighter-pilots.htm Since as you get older, your near vision also goes, getting eye surgery for far vision only solves part of the problem... You'll probably still need to get reading glasses eventually... I figure that as long as I'm wearing glasses, I have eye protection for those miscellaneous things that seem to go straight for the eyes -- bugs when riding a bike, chips off of chisels when hitting them with a hammer, etc... All I have to do is look at all the nicks in my lenses when I get ready for a new pair of glasses to realize that it is probably a good thing that I wear glasses... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. Grumman-581 <grumman581-rec-scuba@spambob.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :> That's the 2nd best option. 1st is lasik. : [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] :ready for a new pair of glasses to realize that it is probably a good :thing that I wear glasses... Wearing contacts under a normal mask enables you to see just as well as you would with naked eyes and a prescription mask. Same thing with surgically repaired eyes. So far, it's a tie. Once you take the mask on, those with contacts or repaired eyes take the lead because they can still see. By the way, young feller, I'm familiar with the reading glasses situation, since I'm in it. I was with contacts and am with repaired eyes. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > > That's the 2nd best option. 1st is lasik. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > for far vision only solves part of the problem... You'll probably still > need to get reading glasses eventually... I needed reading glasses immediately upon having the lasik. I still don't regret having it done, but the short vision sucks. > I figure that as long as I'm wearing glasses, I have eye protection for > those miscellaneous things that seem to go straight for the eyes -- bugs > when riding a bike, chips off of chisels when hitting them with a hammer, > etc... All I have to do is look at all the nicks in my lenses when I get > ready for a new pair of glasses to realize that it is probably a good > thing that I wear glasses... LOL, maybe you should just be more careful. > LOL, maybe you should just be more careful. I'm a guy... I don't think that word is in my vocabulary... SignatureSee NNTP header field "X-Real-Email-Address" to reply by email. |
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