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I warned you of the dangers of ELEPHANTS

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dechucka - 01 Jan 2008 20:38 GMT
and the need to carry insurance in the form of concealed anti elephant guns
but you ignored me. This man may still be alive today except for the
restrictive gun laws in Australia :-)

Elephant crushes circus worker in Yamba

Posted Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:28pm AEDT
Updated Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:54pm AEDT

A circus employee has been crushed by an elephant in Yamba, on the north
coast of New South Wales

Sorry I couldn't bring you this news earlier but I have been away watching
some cricket in Melbourne and than doing some fantastic dives on the South
coast of NSW including a magic shore dive entering the water just as the sun
came up for the New Year.

Hope everyone had a good New Years night and that this coming year is good
to you
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 01:10 GMT
On Jan 1, 3:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:>

> A circus employee has been crushed by an elephant in Yamba, on the north
> coast of New South Wales

Maybe after enough are killed,  people will begin to understand that
keeping elephants in circuses isn't nice.  I don't think God approves
of circuses at all.
If people are being killed for their stupidity of trying to house
animals in cages / mistreating them,  then I think God is smirking
over it.
dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 01:22 GMT
On Jan 1, 3:38 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:>

> A circus employee has been crushed by an elephant in Yamba, on the north
> coast of New South Wales

Maybe after enough are killed,  people will begin to understand that
keeping elephants in circuses isn't nice.  I don't think God approves
of circuses at all.
If people are being killed for their stupidity of trying to house
animals in cages / mistreating them,  then I think God is smirking
over it.

OK so it's Gods retribution? and I thought it was because he wasn't carrying
a gun. I'm so confused God, guns and I thought I'd subscribed to a SCUBA ng.

OH well all good fun
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT
> <hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OH well all good fun

It's not God's retribution.  I never said that.  Don't try to put
words in my mouth.  But it is more of why was that animal in that cage
in the first place.  Don't you understand that animals should not be
harmed in this way?   Are you a Christian ?  Do you believe in the
Bible ?
dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 01:45 GMT
On Jan 3, 8:22 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
> <hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OH well all good fun

It's not God's retribution.  I never said that.  Don't try to put
words in my mouth.  But it is more of why was that animal in that cage
in the first place.  Don't you understand that animals should not be
harmed in this way?   Are you a Christian ?  Do you believe in the
Bible ?

I refuse to take my kids to circuses.

I am a baptised CofE and went to a CofE school
dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 01:49 GMT
> On Jan 3, 8:22 pm, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> <hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am a baptised CofE and went to a CofE school

but saying that I am either an aesthiest or an agnostic depending on my mood
and give the bible as much credence as other religious books. Having said
that the " Christian" moral values are quite good
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 21:45 GMT
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> and give the bible as much credence as other religious books. Having said
> that the " Christian" moral values are quite good

Nothing wrong with that.  I think your values are in the right place.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 21:40 GMT
> <hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I refuse to take my kids to circuses.

I am proud of you for that.

> I am a baptised CofE and went to a CofE school-

That's fine too.
dazed and confuzzed - 04 Jan 2008 01:49 GMT
>><hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> harmed in this way?   Are you a Christian ?  Do you believe in the
> Bible ?

The versions of the bible in my library don't mention anything about
elephants, IIRC.

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dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 01:51 GMT
>>><hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The versions of the bible in my library don't mention anything about
> elephants, IIRC.

try reading Kings Chapter 1
dazed and confuzzed - 04 Jan 2008 02:17 GMT
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> try reading Kings Chapter 1

got a specific verse?

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dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 03:13 GMT
>>>>><hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> got a specific verse?

the one that talks about ivory or Elephant teeth in the Hebrew version. Will
get back to you after I ask my local priest
dechucka - 04 Jan 2008 05:55 GMT
>>>>>><hierophantf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> the one that talks about ivory or Elephant teeth in the Hebrew version.
> Will get back to you after I ask my local priest

Now I can get back to you

Asking my mate what I should bring over to dinner tonight I had the
oppurtunity of asking him the question about elephants in the bible.

Kings1  10:22 was the answer. He suggested going back to the Hebrew as the
King James calls it "ivory"

Great having a diving mate who is a sky pilot
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 21:50 GMT
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There are many more than that.  Job 40:15 is a good example of one.
dazed and confuzzed - 04 Jan 2008 23:07 GMT
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> There are many more than that.  Job 40:15 is a good example of one.

"Look at the behemoth, [a]
       which I made along with you
       and which feeds on grass like an ox"

Could be an elephant, I suppose.

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dechucka - 06 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT
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> Could be an elephant, I suppose.

more likely a hippo
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 04 Jan 2008 21:43 GMT
On Jan 3, 8:49 pm, dazed and confuzzed <dedmann@comcast_remove.net>
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Delirious and Constipated,

Just stop now.
Brad - 04 Jan 2008 22:50 GMT
> On Jan 3, 8:49 pm, dazed and confuzzed <dedmann@comcast_remove.net>
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> Just stop now.

WTF has god got to do with any of this. Slavery was and is approved by GOD,
if slavery of humans is allowed then why would he disapprove of keeping an
elephant in my back yard for entertainment. Anyone that brings up god in any
approve/disapprove sort of context is a nut job, especially in this group.
If you say that you personally do not like the idea of keeping caged
animals, that I can respect. "God is smirking over it." when referring to a
tragic loss of human life displays your total lack of compassion and shows
the group that you have a total disregard for anything taught by our lord
Jesus Christ.

It's people just like you that will use the term "god spoke to me" while
testifying from the witness box.

On a lighter side the brewery once imported an elephant for a publicity tour
here. They had to print off thousands of fliers and do public education
lectures to the villages that could not read to the effect that they should
not kill the giant pig. I'll see if I can find a cite.

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