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Can't we all just get along? - Dan's invitation

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ben bradlee - 30 Nov 2007 15:54 GMT
It's too bad that Greg has to be off in Belize or I'm sure he would think
this get together would be a great idea.  Just a short time ago Dan B.
invited us to join him in Cozumel to enjoy his presence during our favorite
activity, scuba diving.  As the great moderator from the North, he has put
himself in the position of leading the greatest potential melding of the
great scuba minds ever to possibly occur.  All we would need to do is join
Dan and his wife Pat in Cozumel.

Here is our opportunity to enjoy the culture of the South.  We'll be
immigrants in the rich Mexican culture, able to speak Spanish, and drive to
our hearts content in the confines of our portion of Quintana Roo.  I'm sure
Lee would welcome the opportunity to meet with the families of his neighbors
to the south and compare his Cuban influenced Spanish with that of the
native Spanish speakers of Old Mexico.  Dennis, Doug, Scott, John, Chilly,
and all the rest can savor the reef diving then get together for hours of
great on-topic scuba discussion.  We can look at each other face to face to
ascertain others' depth of belief in the great conservative world as we know
it.  Brian might be there to tell us about Canada.  Maybe we can empty a
mini-bar or two from the rooms at the Iberostar before catching a few winks
and an early morning dive.  Oh the tropical camaraderie is only a few hours
away.

Short of money?  Maybe we can get work at the resort or in town to help pay
for the room.  I'm sure we have some services we can offer to earn a few
bucks to help pay the freight.  Don't plan to work full-time though, we need
to have plenty of time to get together and talk in English about our homes
and life.  Heck, maybe we could chip in and together buy a house on Cozumel
where we could stay part time - or, maybe full time.  It's really a great
place, the weather is wonderfully warm, the diving is excellent, and the
cost won't be that much per person.  Maybe if this works out we can buy more
homes and land, maybe plan to retire in the great State of Quintana Roo.

I know this is short notice.  Make your reservation now.  Maybe I will.
JOF - 30 Nov 2007 17:26 GMT
>It's too bad that Greg has to be off in Belize or I'm sure he would think
>this get together would be a great idea.  Just a short time ago Dan B.
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>
>I know this is short notice.  Make your reservation now.  Maybe I will.

What was the date again? I'll be nearby for most of January. It's just
a bus ride and a hop on the ferry away.

JF
ben bradlee - 30 Nov 2007 17:42 GMT
> What was the date again? I'll be nearby for most of January. It's just
> a bus ride and a hop on the ferry away.

I'm thinking the 8th thru the 15th of December.  (Just timed perfectly for a
great pre-<insert your own holiday name here> present.)  Dan knows his
vacation dates for sure - although he probably hasn't heard about his
possible duties as moderator for rec.scuba regulars and irregulars yet.
January will be too late.
chilly - 30 Nov 2007 18:10 GMT
> It's too bad that Greg has to be off in Belize

Greg is going to Bonaire.

I just got back from a  couple of weeks in Belize or I'd probably be going
with to Bonaire.

In any event, when you decide you want to buy a place in Belize, put me on
the list.  When you decide you want to buy a place in Bonaire, I'll bet you
can get Greg on your list.

For all those that are going to meet up with Dan Bracuk on Coz, have a great
time.

(snip)
Lee Bell - 30 Nov 2007 18:46 GMT
> I'm sure Lee would welcome the opportunity to meet with the families of
> his neighbors to the south and compare his Cuban influenced Spanish with
> that of the native Spanish speakers of Old Mexico.

I've been there and done that. It was well worth doing.

> I know this is short notice.  Make your reservation now.  Maybe I will.

This is the time of year when I have way too many things going on to escape
to anywhere, but your idea is still a good one. I'm working on the
Winterfest Boat Parade. Some know, some don't, but I'm the lead control boat
for the parade. I set up, contact and manage all the boats that keep the
spectators boats out of the way of the parade. It's a fill time job, on top
of my full time job. Then there's my wife's birthday, December 5th. I'm
setting up a party for her and, of course, buying birthday and Christmas
presents. On Christmas morning, we'll have somewhere between 30 and 50
people over for Christmas breakfast. 5 lbs of bacon, 5 dozen eggs, two trays
of hashbrown casserole, 5 lbs of sausage turned into Jayna's famous gravy,
enough biscuits for those that combine them with sausage gravy and those
that don't. A couple gallons of grits and Goetta, a sausage like treat
native to Ohio, as is my wife. Then, visiting with friends and family for
the day followed by a few days to recover, then back to facing the new year.

I've met Dan and Pat. We've done a few dives and eaten a few meals together.
They're worth meeting for the first time and again. Excellent divers and
both interesting and enjoyable folks.  This won't be my next time, but it
can be your first.  Go for it.

Lee
Grumman-581 - 30 Nov 2007 19:03 GMT
<snip>
> a sausage like treat native to Ohio, as is my wife.
</snip>

So, you're a Yankee sympathizer?
Lee Bell - 30 Nov 2007 19:12 GMT
>> a sausage like treat native to Ohio, as is my wife.

> So, you're a Yankee sympathizer?

No, but I am a Yankee lover . . . or slave. It comes out about the same.

Lee
Grumman-581 - 30 Nov 2007 19:35 GMT
> No, but I am a Yankee lover . . . or slave. It comes out about the same.

Well, Grace is from further south that I am... About the same latitude
as Key Largo... 25d 02'N... Unfortunately, she's been stuck up in NYC
the last few days dealing with Yankees...
-hh - 01 Dec 2007 00:44 GMT
> > No, but I am a Yankee lover . . . or slave. It comes out about the same.
>
> Well, Grace is from further south that I am... About the same latitude
> as Key Largo... 25d 02'N... Unfortunately, she's been stuck up in NYC
> the last few days dealing with Yankees...

Have her bring back a baseball cap for Lee ;-)

-hh
Grumman-581 - 01 Dec 2007 05:23 GMT
> Have her bring back a baseball cap for Lee ;-)

I just got back from picking her up at IAH... Her plane had to return to
the terminal because some idiot decided he wanted to exit the rear door
of the aircraft while it was on the taxiway... The police escorted him
away from the plane along with his luggage and stuff... Don't know if it
was just your typical NY kook or if he realized rather late he was on
the wrong plane... I suspect the former... Grace has been bitching about
NYC and the people up there the whole drive back plus the time we spent
eating dinner... Using the criteria that we had in the Navy, she would
be definitely classified as a happy sailor... The only thing more
ridiculous than the hotel costs up there are the apartment costs... It's
bad enough that apartments cost $2-3K per month for something near her
work location, but when you consider the size of them, it's even
worse... Hell, I suspect a normal seagoing shipping container has more
room in it the way she was describing it... Oh well, as I've said
before, "9/11 -- Couldn't happen to a nicer town"...
Lee Bell - 01 Dec 2007 18:21 GMT
>> Well, Grace is from further south that I am... About the same latitude
>> as Key Largo... 25d 02'N... Unfortunately, she's been stuck up in NYC
>> the last few days dealing with Yankees...
>
> Have her bring back a baseball cap for Lee ;-)

I have one. It says New York F***ing City.

Lee
eeo - 02 Dec 2007 01:25 GMT
>> > No, but I am a Yankee lover . . . or slave. It comes out about the
>> > same.
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>
> -hh

Hey Mr. hh, how was Kaua'i?

eeo
-hh - 02 Dec 2007 02:44 GMT
"eeo" <eeolson(people in Hawaii actually like spam)hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:

> Hey Mr. hh, how was Kaua'i?

Got rained on in Po'ipu, of all things.

Overall, it was a nice change from my Caribbean stuff.  In general,
the time on Kauai went too quickly.  Did a lot of topside general
touring & hiked part of the canyon (tried to go to the highlands
swamp, but the trail was steep & way too slick).  For diving, used
'Bubbles Below' - nice small 6-pack type outfit operating out of Port
Allen.  I'd go out with them again.

Big Island was another "drive all over the place" to see various
historical sights, etc.  Stayed with a 6th Generation member of the
Lyman family at her coffee farm in Kona when we weren't over in Hilo
for a good lava chopper ride.  Dive op was "Kona Honu" which was a
disappointment; see the other thread for more, including URLs to a
couple of pics.

Oh, here's some new ones ... quick hacks from the night Manta Dive:

http://www.photo-hh.com/photo/manta1.avi
http://www.photo-hh.com/photo/manta2.avi

-hh
eeo - 02 Dec 2007 03:44 GMT
> "eeo" <eeolson(people in Hawaii actually like spam)hawaii.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mr. hh, how was Kaua'i?
>
> Got rained on in Po'ipu, of all things.

Raining on Kaua'i, in Winter?!  Can't imagine...   ;^)

> Overall, it was a nice change from my Caribbean stuff.  In general,
> the time on Kauai went too quickly.  Did a lot of topside general
> touring & hiked part of the canyon (tried to go to the highlands
> swamp, but the trail was steep & way too slick).  For diving, used
> 'Bubbles Below' - nice small 6-pack type outfit operating out of Port
> Allen.  I'd go out with them again.

Bubbles Below has a good crew but I *do not like* the owner.  You need to
come back during the summer and take their all day, three-tank trip to
Ni'ihau.  Best day of diving i have ever done out here.

> Big Island was another "drive all over the place" to see various
> historical sights, etc.  Stayed with a 6th Generation member of the
> Lyman family at her coffee farm in Kona when we weren't over in Hilo
> for a good lava chopper ride.  Dive op was "Kona Honu" which was a
> disappointment; see the other thread for more, including URLs to a
> couple of pics.

The Big Island is great and I always suggest to anyone heading out there to
do a helicopter ride.  It's expensive but worth it.  Not just because you
get to see the lava flows up close (without a 6 hour hike) but because you
also see how the Island is one complete ecosystem: you have parched
desserts, tall mountains, tropical rainforests all within just a few miles
of each other.

> Oh, here's some new ones ... quick hacks from the night Manta Dive:
>
> http://www.photo-hh.com/photo/manta1.avi
> http://www.photo-hh.com/photo/manta2.avi

Great footage!  Brought back memories.  I showed to my kids as an incentive
for them to get certified!  However, I do have ethical problems with the
Manta Ray dive: how is it different than a shark dive.  You are chumming the
waters.

eeo
Greg Mossman - 06 Dec 2007 12:52 GMT
On Dec 1, 7:44 pm, "eeo" <eeolson(people in Hawaii actually like
spam)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> Great footage!  Brought back memories.  I showed to my kids as an incentive
> for them to get certified!  However, I do have ethical problems with the
> Manta Ray dive: how is it different than a shark dive.  You are chumming the
> waters.

The Manta Night Dive attracts only weak and injured mantas that would
otherwise have problems finding food on their own.  Sure, it's going
against Darwinistic principles by aiding the least fit, but in that
sense it's no less ethical than Meals on Wheels.
crownfield - 06 Dec 2007 15:11 GMT
In article <1e841a22-00c1-4476-a825-
fa59f4a444ac@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
-The Manta Night Dive attracts only weak and injured mantas that would
-otherwise have problems finding food on their own.  Sure, it's going
-against Darwinistic principles by aiding the least fit, but in that
-sense it's no less ethical than Meals on Wheels.

one of the most (of few) valid posts you have made.

-

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