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George Cathcart - 20 Nov 2007 20:03 GMT
Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.

Nov. 10-17.

A group of eight of us flew from Baltimore to Bonaire Nov. 10 for a
week at Buddy Dive. Short story is it was a great trip -- good to
excellent visibility, water temps about 83 all week, little to no
current, LOTS of animals on the reefs, which are quite healhy by
Caribbean standards.

It was a mixed group, consisting of one couple plus four additional
men and two additional women. We had two 2-bedroom suites and a truck
for each suite included in the package, as well as unlimited free
Nitrox, free breakfast and 50% off all other meals eaten at the hotel
up to $75. The package also included 6 one-tank boat dives, but most
of us opted out of that and saved about $115 off the package price.

The fact that several people did keep the boat dive option worked well
for us, though, because we were under no pressure to have all eight of
us agree on dive sites or schedules. We did a lot of mixing and
matching over the course of the week, and I think everyone pretty much
got to do what we wanted to do.

I did 24 dives over the course of the week, diving right up to 4:15
Friday afternoon, with my flight out scheduled for 4:10 Saturday. I
did do one a la carte boat dive to Klein Bonaire (Sarah's Serenity),
and I was glad I had not taken the boat option for the week. All the
boat dives are guided dives, which tend to be too crowded, especially
when the guide sees something and everyone swims over at once to see
what he's so excited about. I expect a tsunami to result some day from
the collision of a dozen divers all hurrying to get a look a a
seahorse. Otherwise it was a very nice dive.

As were they all. In addition to Sarah's Serenity, I dove at Wayaka
II, 1000 Steps. Oil Slick Leap, Andrea I and II, Bachelor's Beach,
Alice in Wonderland (twice), Salt City, Hilma Hooker, Angel City, Bari
Reef and, of course, Buddy's Reef. Also did one night dive at Town
Pier, but we couldn't get the permit to dive at Salt Pier. I'm pretty
sure I'm leaving something out, but I can't remember what right now.

Anyway, the highlights for me were my first dive at Buddy's and two
pre-dawn dives at Buddy's. On the first dive, the viz was 100+, and I
saw three different species of morays, a couple of very bold squid and
the generally amazing collection of fish life, corals and sponges that
make Bonaire so special. I have never seen so many trumpetfish nor
Christmas tree worms. Many of the trumpetfish were shadowing other
larger fish, including groupers and parrotfish. On night dives, tarpon
swam with us, hoping our lights would help them find snacks. There was
also a big cubera snapper that we saw only at night.

The pre-dawn dives were very special. We set up our gear the night
before and left it in the gear locker at Buddy's dock. We got up and
5:30, walked down to the dock and were in the water by 5:50 or so. It
started as a night dive, but less lively than in the early evening
darkness. A lot of the night denizens had retired by this time, so it
was pretty quiet, a few soldierfish and squirrelfish, an octopus
grabbing some last morsels. As the light came up, though, the reef
came alive. Parrotfish emerged from their coccoons and prowled about
sleepily. Tangs and damselfish appeared. But the coolest thing was
looking up the wall from about 45 feet and seeing swarms off mojarras
and chromis streaming out of the reef and up the wall toward the
light. There they settled in for a day of snacking in loose
aggregations on microscopic plankton while yellowtails and bar jacks
cruised along the edges looking for their own meals.

Town Pier was interesting, but not as much as I had expected, I guess.
It, too, was a guided dive, although each guide has only four divers,
so the convergences to look at sea horses were less calamitous. Hilma
Hooker was interesting, too, a nice wreck in pretty good condition on
its side between two reefs.

Most of the entries and exits were pretty easy, though I usually
needed a little extra help with my two-strobe and huge housing camera
rig, and we did pass on a few sites because the entries looked too
difficult and/or the swim was ridiculously long.

Buddy's was much nicer than I anticipated. I usually have fairly low
expectations, but the rooms were spacious and clean, service was most
excellent. Food was middlin', and service a bit slow there, but my
only real complaint was about the availability of Nitrox tanks at the
drive through fill station. There was a large group of about 50
people, and every morning, Buddy's loaded a large truck with Nitrox
tanks for them. There still should have been enough for us, but we
showed up several times to find no Nitrox AL80s available, but a dozen
or more on whips not being filled. We then had to hunt down the
operator and get him to fill some tanks for us.

There were always plenty of tanks at the dock where we did our shore
dives at Buddy's, however.

All in all, a fine trip that I'd do again happily, but my next trip
will be a liveaboard, and on the whole, liveaboard remains my favorite
way to go.

I'll have photos on my Picasaweb site in a few days. Got some nice
macros, which is what Bonaire is noted for, of course...

gc
ben bradlee - 20 Nov 2007 21:05 GMT
> Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.

Very good George.  Thanks for the report.
JOF - 20 Nov 2007 21:50 GMT
>I'll have photos on my Picasaweb site in a few days. Got some nice
>macros, which is what Bonaire is noted for, of course...

Thanks Geo. Any thievery problems encountered?

JF
George Cathcart - 20 Nov 2007 22:04 GMT
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:03:18 -0800 (PST), George Cathcart
>
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>
> JF

Our group did not have any theft problems. We left the windows open
and generally no valuables in the vehicles. Rooms felt entirely
secure.

As we pulled into one dive site, there was a truck already there, and
one of our group suggested we put something in it, but none of us had
anything we wanted to sacrifice...

gc
nitespark - 20 Nov 2007 22:16 GMT
> Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.
>
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> current, LOTS of animals on the reefs, which are quite healhy by
> Caribbean standards.

Sounds like you had a great time George.  Thanks for the trip report.
Did you see the seahorse off Bari Reef when you dove it?

Andy
George Cathcart - 20 Nov 2007 22:26 GMT
> > Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.
>
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>
> Andy

No, the seahorses I saw were on town pier. We saw a frogfish off Bari.

gc
Greg Mossman - 21 Nov 2007 02:59 GMT
> > > Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.
>
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>
> No, the seahorses I saw were on town pier. We saw a frogfish off Bari.

Someone on Bonairetalk reported seeing five there a few weeks ago.
It's gonna be my mission to find them all, since that will be our
house reef for the week.

Great report, which will make it even harder to get by for the next 11
days.  The water sounds like it's keeping pleasantly warm.  I was
fearing upper 70s, but I doubt it will cool too much over two weeks.

Not sure if I'll make a pre-dawn dive, but I commend your commitment.

Liveaboards are wonderful, to be sure, but Bonaire is a nice
alternative.  I'm looking forward to staying on land myself after
being seasick through half of our Galapagos misadventure.  Diving on
your own schedule can be a godsend, though that probably works out
even better with only two instead of eight.  Still, lugging all the
gear can be a bitch after getting spoiled by liveaboard ease.  At
least it burns up calories from all that good Euro & Caribbean food
there.

Speaking of which, where'd ya eat?

And how bad were the skeeters?  I've been hearing tales of horror on
BT.
George Cathcart - 21 Nov 2007 04:13 GMT
> Speaking of which, where'd ya eat?

Well, you're gonna hate this, but we ate mostly at Buddy's. Breakfast
was part of the package, and we had 50 percent off all meals at
Buddy's up to $75. We ate lunch there so we could get back in the
water quickly, and dinner so we could get out and do our night dives.
Diving is always my first priority. That's what the older group of us
did, anyway. The younger group, in the other suite (all are under 50,
buncha kids), got groceries and cooked dinner every night and ate
leftovers for lunch.

Actually, we didn't eat at Buddy's every night. We ate at the other
restaurant on the premises twice, and we went to a pizza place on
Wednesday and Thursday (Pasa Bon Pizza, just down the road from
Buddy's and Sand Dollar, past the roundabout -- good pizza). And on
the last night, we all went to It Rains Fishes, on the waterfront in
Kralendijk, not far from Town Pier. It was excellent.

> And how bad were the skeeters?  I've been hearing tales of horror on
> BT.

That would depend who you asked. One of us complained ad nauseum about
them and slathered herself in repellent. I hardly noticed them, but
did find welts later. So far I haven't died. Take DEET. It can't hurt,
though it may melt the lining of your wetsuit.

Also, I just looked up the other dive site I forgot to list: Ol'
Blue.  Very nice.

Have a great trip Greg. One of these days we'll find ourselves in the
same place at the same time. We'll probably end up talking about
guns...

gc
Greg Mossman - 21 Nov 2007 07:18 GMT
> Well, you're gonna hate this, but we ate mostly at Buddy's. Breakfast
> was part of the package, and we had 50 percent off all meals at
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> buncha kids), got groceries and cooked dinner every night and ate
> leftovers for lunch.

Your loss.  Good grub on Bonaire, and I find the prices quite
reasonable with the exchange rate (especially since the dollar is such
a lousy deal everywhere else nowadays).  You can't beat the two-minute
drive into town.  The fact that most of the island lodgings tend to be
condos with full kitchens keeps the restaurants from being too
crowded.  Of course the kitchen is wasted on us, but I do find the
full fridge handy for storing lots of cold beer (and Janna's Diet
Cokes), and the microwave is handy for leftover Pasa Bon pizza.

> Actually, we didn't eat at Buddy's every night. We ate at the other
> restaurant on the premises twice, and we went to a pizza place on
> Wednesday and Thursday (Pasa Bon Pizza, just down the road from
> Buddy's and Sand Dollar, past the roundabout -- good pizza). And on
> the last night, we all went to It Rains Fishes, on the waterfront in
> Kralendijk, not far from Town Pier. It was excellent.

Yep, Pasa Bon is decent, though I haven't had the courage to sample
their fish pizza yet.  I've heard mixed reviews about It Rains Fishes,
but they supposedly came under new management just the last month or
so that hopefully worked out all the bugs.

Tops on my list for our trip would be a repeat trip to Cactus Blue,
and I've heard almost nothing but good things about Donna & Giorgio's
and Mona Lisa.  I've already reserved a table at Patagonia in their A/
C'd dining room for the day we fly in, figuring we won't yet be
acclimated enough to want to dine outside.

We ate all our lunches at Buddy too on our last trip.  They did some
amazing things with chicken breast.

> That would depend who you asked. One of us complained ad nauseum about
> them and slathered herself in repellent. I hardly noticed them, but
> did find welts later. So far I haven't died. Take DEET. It can't hurt,
> though it may melt the lining of your wetsuit.

Our condo at Den Laman is fully A/Cd, so at least we won't have to let
them in like we did at Buddy whenever we aired out the place.  We have
lots of DEET, but I'm worried enough to want to bring something on the
plane that can get past TSA, since we land at dawn.  The worst I got
bitten on our last trip was pre-dawn on our departure date, when we
sat around Buddy's outdoor "lobby" waiting for the bus to take us to
the airport and I was too lazy to clip off the tie wraps to get to the
spray that I had forgotten to apply before we set out.  I was itching
the entire ride home.

> Have a great trip Greg. One of these days we'll find ourselves in the
> same place at the same time. We'll probably end up talking about
> guns...

Not if I shoot you first!

I've already got the important stuff packed, i.e. my camera gear.
This is the first time I've been proactive enough to get it together
so far in advance.  I can pack the scuba gear blind since I've done it
so many times before that it's automatic, but the camera bag takes
some thought.  We finally got Janna's BC back today after the new dive
shop that I decided to try ended up sending it on a two-month voyage
to ScubaPro, claiming that it wasn't holding air (even though it was
when we had originally brought it in for a different reason).  In any
case, it's working perfectly now, old and new issues addressed, and
the guy only charged me $20 and invited me to his X-Mas party, so I
guess can't complain.  I'll just have to make sure to drink and eat at
least $20 worth at the party.

If only I could find the 5T filter that I bought on eBay, since I was
planning on doing some supermacro while tooling around Bari Reef (no
camera on shore dives for me).  I have a 6T as well, but I'm not sure
if the images will be as sharp.  They allegedly have some pike
blennies in the shallows that I'm going to hunt after I've found all
five froggies.

Now off to bed for me, and then it will only be 10 more days!
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 22 Nov 2007 10:06 GMT
<snipping a bit here and there>

> Your loss.  Good grub on Bonaire, and I find the prices quite
> reasonable with the exchange rate (especially since the dollar is such
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> full fridge handy for storing lots of cold beer (and Janna's Diet
> Cokes), and the microwave is handy for leftover Pasa Bon pizza.

Don't forget mixed nuts, microwave popcorn, pepperoni, summer sausage
and crackers (all brought from home) and cheese bought fresh there.
Those are essential post-dive snacks.

> Tops on my list for our trip would be a repeat trip to Cactus Blue,
> and I've heard almost nothing but good things about Donna & Giorgio's
> and Mona Lisa.  I've already reserved a table at Patagonia in their A/
> C'd dining room for the day we fly in, figuring we won't yet be
> acclimated enough to want to dine outside.

Cactus Blue was my favorite on the island.  May I suggest Casablanca,
which is right next door to Cactus Blue.  Casablanca features the most
tender steaks and cuts of beef that you can imagine and the cuts they
give you are large. La Guernica is good if you like tapas. They also
own Bambu, another excellent restaurant... in fact, I liked Bambu
better than La Guernica. I would rate them as follows : Cactus Blue,
Casablanca, Bambu, La Guernica. We also ate at City Cafe and the
Lion's Den but I would not go back to either of those.
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2007 16:36 GMT
On Nov 22, 2:06 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > Your loss.  Good grub on Bonaire, and I find the prices quite
> > reasonable with the exchange rate (especially since the dollar is such
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> and crackers (all brought from home) and cheese bought fresh there.
> Those are essential post-dive snacks.

Yuck.  But each to her own, I guess.  I'm sure some Japanese people
out there are saying dried shrimp and fish cake make perfect post-dive
snacks.  Me, I'll stick with beer.

> > Tops on my list for our trip would be a repeat trip to Cactus Blue,
> > and I've heard almost nothing but good things about Donna & Giorgio's
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Casablanca, Bambu, La Guernica. We also ate at City Cafe and the
> Lion's Den but I would not go back to either of those.

We tried Bambu last time and Guernica is on my list for this trip.
While the owner is a nice lady - she sat at our table to chat for 15
minutes after our dinner - and we were treated to a neat show with the
cruise ship departure across the street, followed by the arrival of
the supply barge and all the trucks coming and going to offload it, I
found that the restaurant suffered from the same problem as a lot of
places back home: great appetizers, but uninspired entrees.

Last night I e-mailed a reservation for Cactus Blue on Wednesday
night, when they have live music.  So that's two nights planned so
far.  Five to go.  D&G's, Mona Lisa, and Wil's will be three of those
nights and we'll probably eat at Den Laman when we do a night dive, so
that leaves one more night to figure out: Guernica, Papaya Moon,
Casablanca, Bistro de Paris, or It Rains Fishes are my options.  It
sure would be easier if we could stay for two weeks!
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2007 19:42 GMT
> > > Tops on my list for our trip would be a repeat trip to Cactus Blue,

> > Cactus Blue was my favorite on the island.  May I suggest Casablanca,

> Last night I e-mailed a reservation for Cactus Blue on Wednesday
> night, when they have live music.  So that's two nights planned so
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> Casablanca, Bistro de Paris, or It Rains Fishes are my options.  It
> sure would be easier if we could stay for two weeks!

Well, now we have two nights to fit in the five "other" restaurants on
my to-do list.  The Cactus Blue owners e-mailed me back to say that
they're closed the entire time we're in Bonaire.  They're traveling to
Yap and have a blurb on their website about Bill Acker visiting them
in Bonaire.  I know Bill, so I wished them well and promised to eat
there the next time.

So now that I won't have that to-die-for Argentinean filet, maybe
we'll have to give Casablanca a try instead.  Nine more days, and
today doesn't count since it's a holiday, so only eight real days to
go!
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2007 00:14 GMT
> Well, now we have two nights to fit in the five "other" restaurants on
> my to-do list.  The Cactus Blue owners e-mailed me back to say that
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> today doesn't count since it's a holiday, so only eight real days to
> go!

But wait... your Argentinean beef can be had at Casablanca !!  That is
what they feature.  Hope you have a safe trip and a great time.  :-)
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2007 00:11 GMT
> On Nov 22, 2:06 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Don't forget mixed nuts, microwave popcorn, pepperoni, summer sausage
> > and crackers (all brought from home) and cheese bought fresh there.
> > Those are essential post-dive snacks.

> Yuck.  But each to her own, I guess.  I'm sure some Japanese people
> out there are saying dried shrimp and fish cake make perfect post-dive
> snacks.  Me, I'll stick with beer.

I misspoke.  I'm with you on the idea of a beer after diving for the
day.  I was thinking more in terms of between dives.  The snacks I
mentioned above are good after a dive while you wait for your next
dive.  :-)

> > Cactus Blue was my favorite on the island.  May I suggest Casablanca,
> > which is right next door to Cactus Blue.  Casablanca features the most
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > Casablanca, Bambu, La Guernica. We also ate at City Cafe and the
> > Lion's Den but I would not go back to either of those.

> We tried Bambu last time and Guernica is on my list for this trip.
> While the owner is a nice lady - she sat at our table to chat for 15
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> found that the restaurant suffered from the same problem as a lot of
> places back home: great appetizers, but uninspired entrees.

I rather liked my shrimp with coconut, mango and rice entree at Bambu.
And oddly enough, I didn't order an appetizer there because I wasn't
feeling very hungry that evening.  LaGuerica features tapas, which are
appetizer-sized portions and so each person orders like 3 or 4 of
them.  Since I had never been to a tapas restaurant before, I thought
the concept was kinda cool but it's not something that I'd keep
repeating. I noticed the other day, however, that there is now a tapas
restuarant near me.

> Last night I e-mailed a reservation for Cactus Blue on Wednesday
> night, when they have live music.  So that's two nights planned so
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Casablanca, Bistro de Paris, or It Rains Fishes are my options.  It
> sure would be easier if we could stay for two weeks!

I'm sure you could arrange 2 weeks and Buddy Dive is so inexpensive.
Do you like live music during dinner ??  I generally like a more quiet
atmosphere while dining but I like restaurants that feature live music
later in the evening so that you can hang out and listen while having
dessert or an after-dinner cocktail.  I wasn't aware that Cactus Blue
had live music.  The place didn't seem all that large but then again,
I was only outside at one of the tables by the street.
Greg Mossman - 24 Nov 2007 02:53 GMT
On Nov 23, 4:11 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> I misspoke.  I'm with you on the idea of a beer after diving for the
> day.  I was thinking more in terms of between dives.  The snacks I
> mentioned above are good after a dive while you wait for your next
> dive.  :-)

Beer too.  It's not like anyone is gonna get buzzed after one of those
mini Amstels.

> I rather liked my shrimp with coconut, mango and rice entree at Bambu.
> And oddly enough, I didn't order an appetizer there because I wasn't
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> repeating. I noticed the other day, however, that there is now a tapas
> restuarant near me.

Maybe we should have ordered shrimp.  Janna's grouper was overcooked
(not too unusual for Bonaire) and my filet was perfectly ordinary.

I've heard beef can be hit or miss on Bonaire, depending on whether or
not the good stuff is in town.  Cactus Blue ages their filet at the
restaurant and it's incredibly tender.  Janna ordered it, so I only
was able to beg a few bites off her plate and I was sooooooo looking
forward to having my own this time.  Nuts.

> I'm sure you could arrange 2 weeks and Buddy Dive is so inexpensive.
> Do you like live music during dinner ??  I generally like a more quiet
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> had live music.  The place didn't seem all that large but then again,
> I was only outside at one of the tables by the street.

Actually I can't.  If I'm gonna spend 2 weeks on a vacation, it's
going to be somewhere that requires 2 weeks, such as a 10-day
liveaboard in Indonesia (= 14 days with travel time).  Bonaire, as
much as I love the place, isn't worthy of a two-week vacation IMNSHO.
If it weren't for Continental's one flight per week schedule, I
wouldn't even spend a week there.

I'm not sure where the band plays.  The inside is rather small, only 4
tables or so IIRC.
janerene - 24 Nov 2007 04:29 GMT
We went to Bonaire in June and had a fantastic time.  We stayed at Divi
Flamingo.  We went on two boat dives and the rest of the week was all shore
dives.  I love that you can just toss your tanks in the back of the truck
and go nearly anywhere on your own.  We did not go to 1000 Steps even though
we heard it was a good place.  With all the great places to dive, it just
sounded like an awful lot of effort to go there!  lol!  Maybe next time.  Do
people do 1000 Steps as a boat dive just to avoid the steps?  Just for the
record, we ate our breakfasts in the room--went to Cultimara Grocery and got
some of that great Dutch bread and Gouda cheese, usually had PB&J sandwiches
at noon since we were out diving, and then went out for dinner.  We liked
Zeezicht which is a seafood restaurant.  Also found a Middle Eastern place
over by the police station that had excellent shwarmas.  Another place was
(something) Garden.  Went there twice, in fact.  Still need to try Pasa Bon
and Cactus Blue.  Guess we'll have to go back!  Went to Cozumel in July.
Stayed at Scuba Club Cozumel.  That was fun--different kind of diving.
Great coral formations and lots of big crabs, lobster, and turtles.  As far
as sheer numbers of fish, Bonaire has Coz beat, though.  Hope to go back to
both places.  Jane

> On Nov 23, 4:11 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> I'm not sure where the band plays.  The inside is rather small, only 4
> tables or so IIRC.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 25 Nov 2007 16:41 GMT
> On Nov 23, 4:11 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I misspoke.  I'm with you on the idea of a beer after diving for the
> > day.  I was thinking more in terms of between dives.  The snacks I
> > mentioned above are good after a dive while you wait for your next
> > dive.  :-)

> Beer too.  It's not like anyone is gonna get buzzed after one of those
> mini Amstels.

I don't drink until I'm done diving for the day. It'd be my luck that
I would chance it and something would go wrong during the dive so I
don't risk it. Did you try those beers called "Bright" ??  Not bad.

> > I rather liked my shrimp with coconut, mango and rice entree at Bambu.
> > And oddly enough, I didn't order an appetizer there because I wasn't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > repeating. I noticed the other day, however, that there is now a tapas
> > restuarant near me.

> Maybe we should have ordered shrimp.  Janna's grouper was overcooked
> (not too unusual for Bonaire) and my filet was perfectly ordinary.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> was able to beg a few bites off her plate and I was sooooooo looking
> forward to having my own this time.  Nuts.

Try the beef at Casablanca and let me know your opinion. I don't think
you will be disappointed. I had the 'churrasco del centro"  (Argentine
ribeye).

> > I'm sure you could arrange 2 weeks and Buddy Dive is so inexpensive.
> > Do you like live music during dinner ??  I generally like a more quiet
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> If it weren't for Continental's one flight per week schedule, I
> wouldn't even spend a week there.

I understand. I had mentioned to George that I found out about a nice
short-cut back to Buddy Dive after visiting the northern dive sites.
It avoids going thru Rincon and will save you about 30 mins. Coming
back, the short-cut goes off to the right and is marked with a stone
that has a picture of glasses or a bicycle painted on it.  (I'm not
sure what the artist intended)  The road is bumpy but it's driveable
and you'll probably see donkeys, goats and parrots.

> I'm not sure where the band plays.  The inside is rather small, only 4
> tables or so IIRC.
Greg Mossman - 25 Nov 2007 17:05 GMT
On Nov 25, 8:41 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > Beer too.  It's not like anyone is gonna get buzzed after one of those
> > mini Amstels.
>
> I don't drink until I'm done diving for the day. It'd be my luck that
> I would chance it and something would go wrong during the dive so I
> don't risk it. Did you try those beers called "Bright" ??  Not bad.

I don't "drink" between dives either, but like I said, no one is gonna
get buzzed off one of those mini Amstels so they don't count.  Brights
are the Amstels specially brewed in the NA to compete with Corona.
They're OK, Amstels are OK, Polar is OK.  All beer is OK with me as
long as it's not mass-produced swill like some American products I
know of.  The problem is that the bottles are too small so you either
have to keep getting up to go to the fridge for refills, or take more
than one at a time and risk letting them get warm.  But since that's
about the most stressful issue I plan to deal with on my vacation, I
guess I can handle it.

> Try the beef at Casablanca and let me know your opinion. I don't think
> you will be disappointed. I had the 'churrasco del centro"  (Argentine
> ribeye).

I'd like to, I really would, but it's just not gonna happen this time
unless any of my other restaurant selections are closed for the week.
Our seven dinners, so far, will be at Patagonia, Mona Lisa, Donna &
Giorgio's, La Guernica, Wil's Tropical Grill, Reef Restaurant (at Den
Laman), and Papaya Moon.  The latter made it back on my list due to
supposedly new management, a few recent decent reviews on BonaireTalk,
and I had been wanting to try even since our last trip when the buxom
blonde chick that dove on our boat several days in a row highly
recommended it.  I have to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I actually gave serious thought whether to include Patagonia or
Casablanca on my list as the token Argentinean steakhouse, since I
really should be eating fish every night if I knew what was good for
me.  Patagonia won out by a nose.  The main raves about Casablanca
seemed to come from the folks who ordered the mixed grill and then ate
the leftovers for dinner the next night as well, but I'm more about
quality over quantity unless I'm really hungry.  After reading your
opinion, I'd be willing to give Casablanca a chance, but it will
probably be on the next trip and there will be a next trip hopefully
soon as I'd like to take an extended range class with Walt and dive
the Windjammer.  This time, however, is all about shooting macro.

> I understand. I had mentioned to George that I found out about a nice
> short-cut back to Buddy Dive after visiting the northern dive sites.
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> sure what the artist intended)  The road is bumpy but it's driveable
> and you'll probably see donkeys, goats and parrots.

Cool.  Is it on any maps?  Janna no longer lets me drive (with her in
the truck, at least!) on any roads that aren't on maps.  We've gotten
in enough trouble on roads that are on maps for her to know better.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 25 Nov 2007 22:31 GMT
<snipping some>

> They're OK, Amstels are OK, Polar is OK.  All beer is OK with me as
> long as it's not mass-produced swill like some American products I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> about the most stressful issue I plan to deal with on my vacation, I
> guess I can handle it.

Vacation should be stress-free.  :-)  Here's an idea that my friend
had and it worked out well :  take one of those small vinyl insulated
'lunch bags' that you can buy at Walmart for 3 or 4 bucks.  It's a
good thing to have to pack water or soda (or beer) when you drive to a
dive site.  I guess you could also put about 4 or 5 beers in one so
that you wouldn't have to keep going to the refrige.  We put some
water bottles in the freezer the night before our dive and took them
in one of those bags.  The drinks were nice and cold after our dive.
Here's another idea that Janna might like :  buy a cheap float to
bring.  We bought one that was 5 bucks.  It takes little room in your
suitcase. You can blow it up there at the resort and she can use it to
float in the pool. I found it most relaxing.  At the end of our trip,
I left my float for a child who was staying on there.

> I actually gave serious thought whether to include Patagonia or
> Casablanca on my list as the token Argentinean steakhouse, since I
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> soon as I'd like to take an extended range class with Walt and dive
> the Windjammer.  This time, however, is all about shooting macro.

I had a ribeye, potato, vegie and salad for $17.50 at Casablanca and
although I got a large steak, I was able to eat it all.  It was melt-
in-your-mouth tender. My friends had filets and a sirloin, I think,
and they too enjoyed their meal.  I totally agree that food should be
about quality and not quantity.  I'd be interested to hear about the
restaurants you visit since we're thinking of going to Bonaire again
this summer. There were several on our trip who thought that they were
going to dive the Windjammer but they were denied permission.  They
were told that the government forbids that dive site.  I didn't get
all the details since I was not planning to make the dive myself.

> Cool.  Is it on any maps?  Janna no longer lets me drive (with her in
> the truck, at least!) on any roads that aren't on maps.  We've gotten
> in enough trouble on roads that are on maps for her to know better.

I don't know if the short-cut is on any maps but I tend to think it
isn't.  Our trip leader was told about it from a local.  I would bet
that you could ask about it and a local could draw you a map, which
then technically, Janna should allow you to drive. Remember the stone
with the glasses / bicycle marker.
Greg Mossman - 25 Nov 2007 23:50 GMT
On Nov 25, 2:31 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Here's another idea that Janna might like :  buy a cheap float to
> bring.  We bought one that was 5 bucks.  It takes little room in your
> suitcase. You can blow it up there at the resort and she can use it to
> float in the pool. I found it most relaxing.  At the end of our trip,
> I left my float for a child who was staying on there.

I solved that problem by finding the only place on the island without
a pool.  Now, if Janna wants to take a dip in between dives, she'll
have to go on another dive.

We found a treasure trove of pool floats of all different sorts during
our summer trip to Cobalt Coast and got someone in the dive shop to
blow them all up.  That kept us busy for hours, kept the bar rich by
continuously feeding us pina coladas, and I ended up with a really
nasty sunburn.  No thanks.  I have a pool at home.  This trip I plan
to dive.

Supposedly, though, if we get desperate, the Sand Dollar pool might be
available for us to use.  I'll check it out.

> I had a ribeye, potato, vegie and salad for $17.50 at Casablanca and
> although I got a large steak, I was able to eat it all.  It was melt-
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> were told that the government forbids that dive site.  I didn't get
> all the details since I was not planning to make the dive myself.

It may be like the Town and Salt Piers, where you need to dive with a
guide.  Walt Starker advertises it, and I know he dives there because
he occasionally posts reports and pics.  But I'm only in one-third of
the shape I want to be in before taking the next step in "tech"
diving.

You're making me hungry, but we have a fridge full of Thanksgiving
leftovers to take care of that.  And then one steak in Bonaire, and
that's it.  Patagonia at 6 p.m. on the day we fly in because we land
at 5:40 a.m and we're gonna be tired.  Patagonia has A/C and I don't
have to drive to and park in town and they had online reservations -
how stressfree is that?.  After that: fish, healthy fish.  Healthy
vigorous shore diving, fish, thousands of steps, more fish, and light
Bright beer: the Bonaire diet.  Unless my steak at Patagonia is lousy
and I need to make up for it.  Otherwise, I'll let you know about all
the good fish and the not so good fish and then try Casablanca when I
return.  When in the summer are you going?  I don't have my summer
planned yet.

> I don't know if the short-cut is on any maps but I tend to think it
> isn't.  Our trip leader was told about it from a local.  I would bet
> that you could ask about it and a local could draw you a map, which
> then technically, Janna should allow you to drive. Remember the stone
> with the glasses / bicycle marker.

Hmmm.  I wonder if that's one of the stretches on my map that are
marked as bicycle trails?  Were you the only truck driving it and
there were lots of bicyclists waving their fists at you?  Hint: waving
fists is not a Dutch show of solidarity.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 26 Nov 2007 17:16 GMT
> On Nov 25, 2:31 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snipping some>
> I solved that problem by finding the only place on the island without
> a pool.  Now, if Janna wants to take a dip in between dives, she'll
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> nasty sunburn.  No thanks.  I have a pool at home.  This trip I plan
> to dive.

LOL  Sounds like you over-did it.  We bought some rum at the airport
on the way in and frequently had a rum cocktail while floating in the
pool at the end of the day and after dinner.

> Supposedly, though, if we get desperate, the Sand Dollar pool might be
> available for us to use.  I'll check it out.

I hope they do.

> It may be like the Town and Salt Piers, where you need to dive with a
> guide.  Walt Starker advertises it, and I know he dives there because
> he occasionally posts reports and pics.  But I'm only in one-third of
> the shape I want to be in before taking the next step in "tech"
> diving.

I believe the trip leader thought he had a guide but I'm not sure.

> vigorous shore diving, fish, thousands of steps, more fish, and light
> Bright beer: the Bonaire diet.  Unless my steak at Patagonia is lousy
> and I need to make up for it.  Otherwise, I'll let you know about all
> the good fish and the not so good fish and then try Casablanca when I
> return.  When in the summer are you going?  I don't have my summer
> planned yet.

Please do let me know about the restaurants you try. I would be going
the end of June if I go with the same group as last year. They are
also offering a trip to Grenada in May that I'm considering.  I'm not
too sure if the 2 trips would be too close together for me to be able
to do but I'll know for certain toward the end of January. If you and
Janna could be there the same time we are, we'd like to meet up with
you and buy you some Brights.  :-)

> > I don't know if the short-cut is on any maps but I tend to think it
> > isn't.  Our trip leader was told about it from a local.  I would bet
> > that you could ask about it and a local could draw you a map, which
> > then technically, Janna should allow you to drive. Remember the stone
> > with the glasses / bicycle marker.

> Hmmm.  I wonder if that's one of the stretches on my map that are
> marked as bicycle trails?  Were you the only truck driving it and
> there were lots of bicyclists waving their fists at you?  Hint: waving
> fists is not a Dutch show of solidarity.

LOL  We were the only vehicle and the only humans. The other things we
saw on the road were wild donkeys and goats, some parrots and lots of
iguanas.  It's a dirt road and there is a part of it that goes uphill
for a little bit so it would be challenging for bikers.
Greg Mossman - 26 Nov 2007 18:17 GMT
On Nov 26, 9:16 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> LOL  Sounds like you over-did it.  We bought some rum at the airport
> on the way in and frequently had a rum cocktail while floating in the
> pool at the end of the day and after dinner.

If I were to buy rum by the bottle, I'd never leave the hotel.  With
the mini beers, I can have a couple "drinks" and still make it out to
dinner.  But as my own cocktail bartender, I tend to be too heavy
handed for my own good.  Besides, where would I find the little
umbrellas and such to stick in my glass?

> Please do let me know about the restaurants you try. I would be going
> the end of June if I go with the same group as last year. They are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Janna could be there the same time we are, we'd like to meet up with
> you and buy you some Brights.  :-)

Maybe it will work out that way.  After all, my sole purpose for
haunting these newsgroups for the past 8 years is to meet up with
fellow divers who will buy me free drinks.  It's cost me thousands in
airfare, but I'm certain I've drank at least several hundred dollars
of free booze out of it.

> LOL  We were the only vehicle and the only humans. The other things we
> saw on the road were wild donkeys and goats, some parrots and lots of
> iguanas.  It's a dirt road and there is a part of it that goes uphill
> for a little bit so it would be challenging for bikers.

It sounds nice, but it was hard enough getting Janna to let me drive
the national park's dirt road.  Besides, I'd be too afraid of breaking
down in the middle of nowhere and then have to do the unthinkable,
like hike several miles for help while wearing my booties.  At least I
wear proper shorts under my wetsuit.  I doubt anyone would lend a hand
if I was walking around in booties and speedos.

I got a flat on SoCal's infamous 26-mile Rincon Shortcut and had to
crawl in the dirt when it was 95-degrees out.  Fortunately I had a
good spare.  And I was wearing jeans.

When we drove Puerto Rico's Ruta Panorámica, I got a flat and ended up
on a shoulder a bit softer than I had thought, which mired us when the
jack sunk into the dirt after I had already taken off the tire.
Fortunately the family across the street, after twisting the neck of a
chicken for their dinner, came over to help.  Fortunately we had a
good spare.  The chicken probably didn't fare so well.

And the one time I got stuck without a vehicle in Kralendijk late at
night and couldn't find a cab, the guys that gave me a ride back
scared the crap out of me: I was in the back seat, the guy in front of
me put his seat all the way back crushing me in place, and they
started blasting loud hiphop music while driving fast with all the
windows rolled down.  Fortunately they were only screwing with my head
and I ended up surviving that encounter as well.

But being able to bypass Rincon sounds tempting.

Where did you say that shortcut begins?
ben bradlee - 26 Nov 2007 19:21 GMT
"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message

> After all, my sole purpose for
> haunting these newsgroups for the past 8 years is to meet up with
> fellow divers who will buy me free drinks.

It's good to have a purpose in life.

> Where did you say that shortcut begins?

Take the LeeGeorgeBellWashington exit next to the high pile of dung.  You
can't miss it - it's the road to freedom and happiness.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 29 Nov 2007 19:33 GMT
> On Nov 26, 9:16 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip snip>

> If I were to buy rum by the bottle, I'd never leave the hotel.  With
> the mini beers, I can have a couple "drinks" and still make it out to
> dinner.  But as my own cocktail bartender, I tend to be too heavy
> handed for my own good.  Besides, where would I find the little
> umbrellas and such to stick in my glass?

You have to pace yourself. And those little umbrellas and such can be
found at the dollar store or at party stores if you're so inclined to
pack them in your luggage. I prefer my rum drinks naked. (the drink,
not me)

> Maybe it will work out that way.  After all, my sole purpose for
> haunting these newsgroups for the past 8 years is to meet up with
> fellow divers who will buy me free drinks.  It's cost me thousands in
> airfare, but I'm certain I've drank at least several hundred dollars
> of free booze out of it.

It's a dirty job, but someone must do it.  And you are one of the few
fortunate ones to be able to afford the airfare, etc.  Be proud.  :-)

> It sounds nice, but it was hard enough getting Janna to let me drive
> the national park's dirt road.  Besides, I'd be too afraid of breaking
> down in the middle of nowhere and then have to do the unthinkable,
> like hike several miles for help while wearing my booties.  At least I
> wear proper shorts under my wetsuit.  I doubt anyone would lend a hand
> if I was walking around in booties and speedos.

You never know.  One person's nightmare is another person's fetish.

<snipping some very funny tales that included a chicken and for some
reason, made me think about the movie  "From Dusk Til Dawn">

> But being able to bypass Rincon sounds tempting.
> Where did you say that shortcut begins?

I think being able to cut off 30 minutes to get back to the hotel is
awesome because usually after diving, everyone is tired and sweaty and
hungry.  It was worth it to us.

If you leave Buddy Dive, you turn left from the resort and follow that
road to get to the northern dive sites such as Oil Slick, 1000 Steps,
Old Blue, etc.  The road gets very narrow and changes to one-way.  You
can only go north then.  I think the one-way occurs before Old Blue
but I'm absolutely sure it's one-way just after 1000 Steps.  This is
the reason that we must all go thru Rincon to get back.... because of
the one-way stretch.  Now...either just before or just after the
Karpata dive site is the shortcut.  I know that sounds bad but I think
it is about one mile before Karpata when you are headed back.  I
recall seeing a radio station with huge towers. The "regular" road
bares left and the shortcut bares right. A dirt road with the bicycle/
glasses stone marker. Please ask the locals !!  They can tell you
best.
George Cathcart - 29 Nov 2007 19:38 GMT
On Nov 29, 2:33 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > On Nov 26, 9:16 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip snip>
>
> best.

By the way, Greg, have a great time. You leave Saturday, right? Find
those frogfish, and try to leave a little rum for the locals.

And try a dawn dive. You'll like it.

gc
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 29 Nov 2007 20:13 GMT
> By the way, Greg, have a great time. You leave Saturday, right? Find
> those frogfish, and try to leave a little rum for the locals.
> And try a dawn dive. You'll like it.
> gc

Did you try my short-cut route ??   And yes, I agree,  dawn dives are
cool.
Greg Mossman - 29 Nov 2007 21:02 GMT
On Nov 29, 11:38 am, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2:33 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> By the way, Greg, have a great time. You leave Saturday, right? Find
> those frogfish, and try to leave a little rum for the locals.

You mean find the rum and try to leave a little frogfish for the
locals.

> And try a dawn dive. You'll like it.

Yeah right.  Unfortunately I can think of a lot more reasons why I
won't like it.  I have to wake up before dawn for the flight home.
That's already one predawn wakeup too many for my vacation.  And it's
not just me.  Even if I were to get up, it would be near impossible to
get Janna up that early.  Which leaves me diving solo if I still
decide to dive.  And diving solo when I'm that tired probably isn't
the safest thing to do.

The only way I could a dawn dive is if I stay up that late, but
Bonairean nightlife isn't that exciting, and I'd be too drunk to dive
at that point anyway.  Or I could dive the early dawn that I have to
fly out, except that I have to fly out.

I'll have to take your word about the predawn dives.  I'll add it to
the list of things I'll probably never have the chance to experience,
along with diving Antarctica and diving the Doria.  Except that diving
Antarctica and diving the Doria seem much more approachable than
diving at dawn.
Greg Mossman - 29 Nov 2007 20:57 GMT
On Nov 29, 11:33 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> You have to pace yourself. And those little umbrellas and such can be
> found at the dollar store or at party stores if you're so inclined to
> pack them in your luggage. I prefer my rum drinks naked. (the drink,
> not me)

Maybe I should buy a pack before I go, just in case.  If I don't use
them in drinks, I can always hand them out to little kids so they can
have umbrellas with their rum drinks.  I'd hate to think of a poor
Bonairean child without an umbrella for his rum drink.

> It's a dirty job, but someone must do it.  And you are one of the few
> fortunate ones to be able to afford the airfare, etc.  Be proud.  :-)

I really can't afford it, but an inner compulsion to dive (and vacate)
forces an override of my normally sensible cost-saving ways and makes
me do it.  Fortunately there are credit cards to sustain such a
sickness or I'd be stuck at home.  I'll surely regret it all the next
month when the statement arrives, but the only cure for that is to
start planning another vacation.

> > It sounds nice, but it was hard enough getting Janna to let me drive
> > the national park's dirt road.  Besides, I'd be too afraid of breaking
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You never know.  One person's nightmare is another person's fetish.

Introduce me to the woman with a fetish for me in speedos and booties
and I'll propose to her on the spot (with a few other preconditions,
of course - I'm not that easy).

> <snipping some very funny tales that included a chicken and for some
> reason, made me think about the movie  "From Dusk Til Dawn">

I don't even remember a chicken in From Dusk Til Dawn.  I'll have to
rent it again.  I suppose you imagine me as the dashing Antonio
Banderas mass-murderer, and you the fair maiden sipping her cocktail
naked in the cantina that I'm shooting up?  You have me pegged
exactly, except that I don't have an accent.  I can fake one, though.

> I think being able to cut off 30 minutes to get back to the hotel is
> awesome because usually after diving, everyone is tired and sweaty and
> hungry.  It was worth it to us.

It would be nice if you could pack a cooler with food and drinks
without worrying about it being stolen.  I suppose a shortcut is the
next best thing.  I do plan to bring refilled water bottles for
rinsing off the post-dive sweat and the salt water too.

> If you leave Buddy Dive, you turn left from the resort and follow that
> road to get to the northern dive sites such as Oil Slick, 1000 Steps,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> glasses stone marker. Please ask the locals !!  They can tell you
> best.

I'm a man.  We don't ask for directions.  But thanks for the
directions.

I'll blame you if I get lost.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 30 Nov 2007 22:40 GMT
> On Nov 29, 11:33 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Maybe I should buy a pack before I go, just in case.  If I don't use
> them in drinks, I can always hand them out to little kids so they can
> have umbrellas with their rum drinks.  I'd hate to think of a poor
> Bonairean child without an umbrella for his rum drink.

You have a very warped sense of humor.  I like it.

> I really can't afford it, but an inner compulsion to dive (and vacate)
> forces an override of my normally sensible cost-saving ways and makes
> me do it.  Fortunately there are credit cards to sustain such a
> sickness or I'd be stuck at home.  I'll surely regret it all the next
> month when the statement arrives, but the only cure for that is to
> start planning another vacation.

I'm on a credit card free basis right now.  I was getting too carried
away with them and not able to pay in full every month.  I hate paying
interest.

> Introduce me to the woman with a fetish for me in speedos and booties
> and I'll propose to her on the spot (with a few other preconditions,
> of course - I'm not that easy).

I don't think your wife would be amused if you became a bigamist.

> I don't even remember a chicken in From Dusk Til Dawn.  I'll have to
> rent it again.  I suppose you imagine me as the dashing Antonio
> Banderas mass-murderer, and you the fair maiden sipping her cocktail
> naked in the cantina that I'm shooting up?  You have me pegged
> exactly, except that I don't have an accent.  I can fake one, though.

Not the chicken part but the part about you getting a ride from some
wild and crazy guys. I don't think Antonio Banderas was in Dusk Til
Dawn. It was George Clooney and Quinton Tarantino and a bunch of
vampires.

> It would be nice if you could pack a cooler with food and drinks
> without worrying about it being stolen.  I suppose a shortcut is the
> next best thing.  I do plan to bring refilled water bottles for
> rinsing off the post-dive sweat and the salt water too.

We left our truck windows open as per instructions from Buddy Dive.
Of course we didn't take anything valuable but we did have those vinyl
coolers with some water and beach towels, sunglasses, etc.  Nothing
was taken.

> I'm a man.  We don't ask for directions.  But thanks for the
> directions.
> I'll blame you if I get lost.

I don't want you to get lost.  Tell Janna to ask for directions.  Have
a safe trip and a great time !!  I'll look forward to your report.
JOF - 30 Nov 2007 23:20 GMT
>> On Nov 29, 11:33 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>I don't think your wife would be amused if you became a bigamist.

Perhaps he'd be more comfortable with the sobriquet polygamist. It
sounds nicer and is every man's dream, particularly those who lie
about it.

JF
Greg Mossman - 01 Dec 2007 03:42 GMT
On Nov 30, 2:40 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > On Nov 29, 11:33 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Maybe I should buy a pack before I go, just in case.  If I don't use
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You have a very warped sense of humor.  I like it.

I was dropped on my head one too many times as a child.

> I'm on a credit card free basis right now.  I was getting too carried
> away with them and not able to pay in full every month.  I hate paying
> interest.

I pay them (it) off in full every month too.  The hard part is getting
the money to do that.  I've been lucky so far as money always seems to
drop in my lap when I really, really need it.  But one day my luck
will run out and then I'll be running, perhaps to Venezuela where
there's no extradition, yet I could easily hop back and forth to
Bonaire whenever I want.

> I don't think your wife would be amused if you became a bigamist.

You think she'd rather I just have an affair?  Maybe so.

> Not the chicken part but the part about you getting a ride from some
> wild and crazy guys. I don't think Antonio Banderas was in Dusk Til
> Dawn. It was George Clooney and Quinton Tarantino and a bunch of
> vampires.

Hmmm.  You seem to be right.  I saw that too, but I don't remember a
chicken.

Robert Rodriguez made Desperado a year before he made From Dusk Till
Dawn.  Desperado had Antonio as El Mariachi.  Salma Halyek, Cheech
Marin, Quentin Tarantino, and Danny Trejo starred in both movies.

So I was close?

But consider me the George Clooney character if you like.  I can live
with that.  I can't live with you comparing me to Tarantino.  I hate
Tarantino (as an actor).

> We left our truck windows open as per instructions from Buddy Dive.
> Of course we didn't take anything valuable but we did have those vinyl
> coolers with some water and beach towels, sunglasses, etc.  Nothing
> was taken.

That's not bad at all.  I figured they'd take everything.

> I don't want you to get lost.  Tell Janna to ask for directions.  Have
> a safe trip and a great time !!  I'll look forward to your report.

Thanks, and we will.

I'm already in deep water because it turns out Janna's BC weight
pockets didn't come back with the BC after I had picked it up from
being serviced, and of course this is my fault.  She can dive with a
weight belt, but hopefully we can find a pair of weight pockets on the
island or she'll make my vacation miserable.  I hate ScubaPro and
their damn weight pockets.  My Zeagle makes it real easy: pockets sewn
right into the BC.  Impossible to forget.

Hopefully someone on the island is enterprising enough to stock them.
I can't believe we'd be the only divers who lost or forgot to pack SP
weight pockets and would pay up the nose for replacements.
Al Wells - 21 Nov 2007 13:05 GMT
In article <32accec5-7ef0-4950-b475-071fbda01ab2
@f13g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, george.cathcart@gmail.com says...

> The pre-dawn dives were very special.
<snip>

Great report, thanks George. The pre-dawn dives are my favorite.
Dan Bracuk - 22 Nov 2007 02:09 GMT
Al Wells <al.wells@gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:Great report, thanks George. The pre-dawn dives are my favorite.

Any recommendations for talking a wife into one?

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
Al Wells - 22 Nov 2007 13:23 GMT
> Al Wells <al.wells@gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
>
> :Great report, thanks George. The pre-dawn dives are my favorite.
>
> Any recommendations for talking a wife into one?

Tell her the buxom young dive boat monkette has offered be your buddy if
your wife won't go.
George Cathcart - 22 Nov 2007 14:14 GMT
> In article <f6p9k39s71adeah8eaul61go2t1urqt...@4ax.com>,
> NOTbra...@pathcom.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Tell her the buxom young dive boat monkette has offered be your buddy if
> your wife won't go.

That's a good one, Al. I can't top it, or offer any other advice,
since my wife doesn't dive and doesn't go with me on these trips. I
just don't tell her about the buxom young dive boat monkette who begs
to be my buddy on every dive, even the dawn dives...:)

gc
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2007 16:43 GMT
> That's a good one, Al. I can't top it, or offer any other advice,
> since my wife doesn't dive and doesn't go with me on these trips. I
> just don't tell her about the buxom young dive boat monkette who begs
> to be my buddy on every dive, even the dawn dives...:)

That wouldn't work for me.  Janna knows that if the "pre-dawn buxom
young dive boat monkette" truly existed, there's no way I'd be waking
her up to spoil my fun.
Dan Bracuk - 22 Nov 2007 02:13 GMT
George Cathcart <george.cathcart@gmail.com> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:

:Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.
:
:Nov. 10-17.

Sounds like you had a great time.  Thank you for sharing.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 22 Nov 2007 09:53 GMT
> Trip report: Buddy Dive Resort, Bonaire, N.A.
>
[quoted text clipped - 94 lines]
>
> gc

Hey George, sounds like y'all had a great trip.  Just to compare
notes, these are the sites I dove last trip : Buddy's Reef, Joanne's
Kiss, Knife, Repel, Oil Slick, Karl's Wall, Andrea II, Hilma Hooker's
reef - not the wreck since I'd done that before, South Bay,  Sharon's
Serenity (not Sarah's  :-) and I'm told that Buddy named many of the
reefs he 'discovered" after his female friends), 1000 Steps, and Old
BLue.  We saw saw the seahorse on Andrea II, along with TEN squid in
formation and a snake eel eating a brittle star.  How did you like
1000 Steps ??  LOL  We sang the Stone's tune "Beast of Burden" while
wearing our gear up those steps after the dive just to make light of
the fact that we had to climb them. :-)

I'm glad you enjoyed the trip and hope to catch ya soon as per your
voice mail.
George Cathcart - 22 Nov 2007 14:20 GMT
On Nov 22, 4:53 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hey George, sounds like y'all had a great trip.  Just to compare
> notes, these are the sites I dove last trip : Buddy's Reef, Joanne's
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> wearing our gear up those steps after the dive just to make light of
> the fact that we had to climb them. :-)

Yer right, of course, it was Sharon's Serenity. I thought I did pretty
good listing all those from memory. Oh well.

As for singing, there's no way I could have sung anything for at least
ten minutes after climbing the 1000 steps full geared up. Wish you'd
been there to sing it for me!

Was it Buddy who "discovered" and named the reefs, or was it Captain
Don? I got the impression Don was the big pioneer there, but that
might be because he donated the museum at the National Park and
ensured that his arrival on the island was noted on the time line,
like the abolition of slavery and the leasing of the island to the
Brits at some point.

Anyway, happy Thanksgiving everyone. Take  'er easy on the turkey, and
just remember what you're doing it for.

gc

> I'm glad you enjoyed the trip and hope to catch ya soon as per your
> voice mail.
Greg Mossman - 22 Nov 2007 16:48 GMT
> On Nov 22, 4:53 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Yer right, of course, it was Sharon's Serenity. I thought I did pretty
> good listing all those from memory. Oh well.

You fooled us.  After reading your report, Janna and I were recalling
our nice dive at "Sarah's", but "Sharon's" does sound more accurate.
Heck, I can't even remember what I dove by the end of the dive day -
fortunately Janna always writes it all down.

> Was it Buddy who "discovered" and named the reefs, or was it Captain
> Don? I got the impression Don was the big pioneer there, but that
> might be because he donated the museum at the National Park and
> ensured that his arrival on the island was noted on the time line,
> like the abolition of slavery and the leasing of the island to the
> Brits at some point.

Capt. Don was (and still is) the ladies' man.  Was there a "Buddy"?  I
just figured they meant buddy as in dive buddy.

> Anyway, happy Thanksgiving everyone. Take  'er easy on the turkey, and
> just remember what you're doing it for.

Helping curb the dire problem of turkey overpopulation?
George Cathcart - 22 Nov 2007 17:54 GMT
> > On Nov 22, 4:53 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> Helping curb the dire problem of turkey overpopulation?

Exactly!

gc
JOF - 22 Nov 2007 22:06 GMT
>> > Anyway, happy Thanksgiving everyone. Take  'er easy on the turkey, and
>> > just remember what you're doing it for.
>>
>> Helping curb the dire problem of turkey overpopulation?
>
>Exactly!

But remember that we then have to deal with the excess methane
production and it's influence on global warming. I suppose though that
it's really not fair to blame that on mankind. It's the damned
turkeys' collective fault.

JF
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 24 Nov 2007 00:59 GMT
> On Nov 22, 4:53 am, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Hey George, sounds like y'all had a great trip.  Just to compare
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> > wearing our gear up those steps after the dive just to make light of
> > the fact that we had to climb them. :-)

> Yer right, of course, it was Sharon's Serenity. I thought I did pretty
> good listing all those from memory. Oh well.

From memory ??  You did excellent !!   I had to look up my dive
notes.  :-)

> As for singing, there's no way I could have sung anything for at least
> ten minutes after climbing the 1000 steps full geared up. Wish you'd
> been there to sing it for me!

No, you don't wish that I was there to sing it for you !!  I felt just
as miserable as you did.  At first, I didn't want to wear all my gear
to climb back up but then my friend pointed out that the only
alternative was to take a few pieces of gear and make *several trips*
up and down those steps.  I sang the Rolling Stones tune  "Beast of
Burden"  to make light of the situation and it helped me.  My friends
thought it was funny too and so I guess it also helped them.  I had
several minutes after the dive to think about it and I changed the
words.  I sang it something like this :

I'll never be your beast of burden.
My back is small and it's a hurtin.
All I want is to get up these f.cking steps.
I'll never be your beast of burden.
I did my dive, my lungs are hurtin.
All I want is to get up these f.cking steps.
Am I narced enough
Am I bent enough
Am I tired enough
I'm not to seasick to see
I'll never be your beast of burden
So take me home and I'll get a nap in
Gear dryin on the patio
Come on now, we got another dive today
Am I narced enough
Am I bent enough
Am I tired enough
I'm not to seasick to see
Oh no more steps
Up and up and up and up and up and up and now
Up and up and up and up and I'm gonna puke now
Come on now, please please please
I'll tell ya
You can put me out
On these steps
Put me out
And ignore my protests
But put me out, put me out
put me out of misery.
Yeah, all this dive gear
I can suck it up
Make me climb this
I can shrug it off
There's one thing baby
I don't understand
You keep telling me
To climb up this land
Ain't we there yet
Ain't we to the top yet
Ain't we there yet, please please be there
ohhh please
I'll never be your beast of burden
I did that dive and now I'm hurtin
All I want is to get up these fuckin steps.

> Was it Buddy who "discovered" and named the reefs, or was it Captain
> Don? I got the impression Don was the big pioneer there, but that
> might be because he donated the museum at the National Park and
> ensured that his arrival on the island was noted on the time line,
> like the abolition of slavery and the leasing of the island to the
> Brits at some point.

No, my error on that. You're right.  It was Don.

> Anyway, happy Thanksgiving everyone. Take  'er easy on the turkey, and
> just remember what you're doing it for

We didn't have turkey. We went out to a Japanese place for sushi on
Thanksgiving.  Honest.  :-)
George Cathcart - 24 Nov 2007 17:28 GMT
On Nov 23, 7:59 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:
> ...my friend pointed out that the only
> alternative was to take a few pieces of gear and make *several trips*
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> I did that dive and now I'm hurtin
> All I want is to get up these fuckin steps.

That's awesome. Have you ever actually written lyrics before? I'd love
to see Jagger record it, set it to a video with Keith Richards falling
out of a tree...

gc
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 25 Nov 2007 16:26 GMT
On Nov 24, 12:28 pm, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 7:59 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> That's awesome. Have you ever actually written lyrics before? I'd love
> to see Jagger record it, set it to a video with Keith Richards falling
> out of a tree...

It's not really writing lyrics.  It's only changing the wording on the
existing lyrics.  If Jagger records it, the video should feature you
climbing those blasted steps, although Richards falling out of a tree
is funny.  I forget why he fell out... was he hunting or just high ??

BTW, I saw you say in your report that you felt like the boat trips
were "guided" and I meant to tell you that you don't need to stay with
the divemaster at all.  The only time we stayed close to the
divemaster was when we wanted him to find a seahorse because we were
not able to spot one. The rest of the time, we went our own way. I was
acting as a divemaster for those who wished to dive the reef at the
Hilma Hooker site instead of going with the divemaster to the
wreck. :-)

Were you able to find my short-cut coming back from the northern dive
sites ??

Your pictures are EXCELLENT !!  I esp like the post-larval cowfish.
George Cathcart - 24 Nov 2007 17:30 GMT
> I'll have photos on my Picasaweb site in a few days. Got some nice
> macros, which is what Bonaire is noted for, of course...
>
> gc

Photos are now posted at http://picasaweb.google.com/george.cathcart/Bonaire

gc
ben bradlee - 24 Nov 2007 19:29 GMT
"George Cathcart" <george.cathcart@gmail.com> wrote in message
> Photos are now posted at
> http://picasaweb.google.com/george.cathcart/Bonaire

Excellent pictures.
Dan Bracuk - 24 Nov 2007 20:00 GMT
"ben bradlee" <NoWay@Way.Bite.Me> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:Excellent pictures.

Especially this one:
http://picasaweb.google.com/george.cathcart/Bonaire/photo#5136441396757516162

They are all much better than anything I take.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
ben bradlee - 24 Nov 2007 22:02 GMT
> "ben bradlee" <NoWay@Way.Bite.Me> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
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>
> They are all much better than anything I take.

Sadly, me too.  It won't be long and you'll get another chance to practice.
Rod - 25 Nov 2007 16:35 GMT
>> "ben bradlee" <NoWay@Way.Bite.Me> pounded away at his keyboard
>> resulting in:
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>
>Sadly, me too.  It won't be long and you'll get another chance to practice.

George
I have heard that Buddy dive is getting a bit seedy, what are your
observations on the facility ?
George Cathcart - 25 Nov 2007 17:10 GMT
> >> "ben bradlee" <No...@Way.Bite.Me> pounded away at his keyboard
> >> resulting in:
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> I have heard that Buddy dive is getting a bit seedy, what are your
> observations on the facility ?

I had not stayed there before, so I have no point of comparison. I was
pretty impressed, though. Grounds were well-tended, rooms were
spacious and clean. Go back and read my full trip report; my only
complaint was the service for Nitrox tanks at the drive-through
station.

gc
hierophantfish@hotmail.com - 25 Nov 2007 22:44 GMT
> George
> I have heard that Buddy dive is getting a bit seedy, what are your
> observations on the facility

Rod,  like George, I had not stayed at Buddy Dive the last time I was
in Bonaire.  I had no problems there during my trip 5 months ago. Our
rooms were spacious and clean and the maids did a fine job of tidying
up every day... although we did have a baby scorpion in the
bathroom !!  We were in the rooms by the largest pool and I have a
feeling that some parts of the resort are a different than other
parts.  The boats were fine as was the patio restaurant / bar. The
dive shop and gear rental was ok and our rental truck was great.
There were 2 things that I thought that needed some work or changes :
the dock area and the gear storage rooms.  Regardless, we are thinking
of going back and staying there again.
Greg Mossman - 25 Nov 2007 23:25 GMT
On Nov 25, 2:44 pm, hierophantf...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > George
> > I have heard that Buddy dive is getting a bit seedy, what are your
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the dock area and the gear storage rooms.  Regardless, we are thinking
> of going back and staying there again.

I for one liked the dock area, and didn't think there was anything
much wrong with the gear storage room except for the lack of any sort
of security.  Capt. Don's gear room, OTOH, while providing lockers for
security, is in really poor condition.

But our room at Buddy's had a few maintenance issues that persisted
through our stay, besides lacking any practical way to vent the
bathroom and keep it from turning the already humid and hot living
space into a complete sauna and keeping the floors constantly wet and
slippery: a leaky refrigerator, a broken hot water maker, loose
moulding that cut my poor toe and made it bleed, and a really saggy
mattress.  None of this qualifed the place as seedy, and I thought the
grounds wellkept and the restaurants clean, but they could use a
little more attention to the room upkeep.
 
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