"Japan's whaling fleet was set to leave port Sunday for its biggest-
ever scientific whale hunt in the South Pacific, the government
fisheries agency said. The whalers have orders to kill up to 50
humpback whales -- the first known large-scale hunt for the species
since a 1963 moratorium put humpbacks under international
protection. . . . Along with the humpbacks, the 239-member mission
that runs through April will also take up to 935 Antarctic minke
whales and up to 50 fin whales in their largest scientific whale hunt
ever held in the South Pacific, according to a report Japan submitted
to the International Whaling Commission earlier this year."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_as/japan_hunting_humpbacks;_ylt=AkL
uh4.y3GcH.vjs8YsAFbFxieAA
What I wonder is, if there isn't any moratorium against it, why can't
we hunt a certain number of Japanese every year for scientific
purposes? They're taking 1,035 whales. I propose we take 1,035
Japanese fishermen and find out what makes them want to kill whales.
Only live brain dissections could truly give us an answer.
dazed and confuzzed - 17 Nov 2007 16:33 GMT
> "Japan's whaling fleet was set to leave port Sunday for its biggest-
> ever scientific whale hunt in the South Pacific, the government
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Japanese fishermen and find out what makes them want to kill whales.
> Only live brain dissections could truly give us an answer.
Better we start with lawyers. Then go to other species of humans.

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 17 Nov 2007 20:30 GMT
> "Japan's whaling fleet was set to leave port Sunday for its biggest-
> ever scientific whale hunt in the South Pacific, the government
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Japanese fishermen and find out what makes them want to kill whales.
> Only live brain dissections could truly give us an answer.
It looks that such a "scientific program is ongoing for many, many
years.
It started during WWII when Japanese trawlers were targets of
opportunity and one pilot (George Bush) was so committed to the job
that he was even strafing lifeboats with unarmed Japanese sailors.
The job was then continued by his son who authorized in 2001 USS
Greeneville to attack Japanese trawler. Unfortunately that time the
sub captain didn't have balls to kill survivors.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/archives.php?id=21873
Of course somebody less informed could say that it was an accident,
but any rec.scuba redneck can explain that it wasn't possible as the
American technology and training was superior.
Of course it should be mentioned another "strange accident" form 1995
when according to urban legend Russian Air Force cargo plane dropped
from 30 thousand feet live cow, which sunk Japanese trawler. Of course
it is not possible due to simple fact - Russians have huge supply of
different types of bombs, nuclear included, but their food supply is
rather short. They don't want to waste food and what is rather more
important Russians cows have short horns, which are useless for
piercing ship hulls and Soviet era bombers can't drop "smart weapons/
cows from 30000 feet. So definitely it was Texas longhorn dropped
from American B-52.
And there are also "private" enterprises as this one
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/11/05/071105fa_fact_khatchadourian?curre
ntPage=1
To summarize whale killers should be on the endangered species
list. ;-)))
Janusz
El Stroko Guapo - 17 Nov 2007 21:04 GMT
> "Japan's whaling fleet was set to leave port Sunday for its biggest-
> ever scientific whale hunt in the South Pacific, the government
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Japanese fishermen and find out what makes them want to kill whales.
> Only live brain dissections could truly give us an answer.
100% of the "scientific" catch is sold in the Japanese retail market.
The only organization willing to do anything is Sea Shephard
(seashephard.org) which has rammed several whalers and sunk a few.
Personally, I find their efforts crude and overly dramatic. I think they
should use Exocets.
esg
Scott - 17 Nov 2007 21:15 GMT
> 100% of the "scientific" catch is sold in the Japanese retail market.
>
> The only organization willing to do anything is Sea Shephard
> (seashephard.org) which has rammed several whalers and sunk a few.
> Personally, I find their efforts crude and overly dramatic. I think they
> should use Exocets.
Exocets suck, real men use Harpoons;
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-84.htm
Greg Mossman - 18 Nov 2007 06:09 GMT
> > What I wonder is, if there isn't any moratorium against it, why can't
> > we hunt a certain number of Japanese every year for scientific
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> 100% of the "scientific" catch is sold in the Japanese retail market.
Of course. I'm not suggesting we waste the Japanese we hunt either.
Perhaps we can find a market for the carcasses in New Guinea or Fiji.
Brad - 20 Nov 2007 03:00 GMT
>> > What I wonder is, if there isn't any moratorium against it, why can't
>> > we hunt a certain number of Japanese every year for scientific
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Of course. I'm not suggesting we waste the Japanese we hunt either.
> Perhaps we can find a market for the carcasses in New Guinea or Fiji.
They'd have to be fatty ones, lean meat doesn't sell that well here. Biggest
seller in the protein line here is lamb flaps which are about 80% fat.
Probably due to the fact that protein is a real treat and one tin of fish or
bully beef costs about 4 hours wages for a security guard. You haven't seen
anything like the locals chomping down the ferns. Now it were sumo carcasses
on offer, I could find a market for that.

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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Nov 2007 21:48 GMT
> >> > What I wonder is, if there isn't any moratorium against it, why can't
> >> > we hunt a certain number of Japanese every year for scientific
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> anything like the locals chomping down the ferns. Now it were sumo carcasses
> on offer, I could find a market for that.
What about this one ? http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762/Headshot
It's not Japanese, but it's really fat and almost butchered.
Janusz
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Brad - 20 Nov 2007 22:44 GMT
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> carcasses
> on offer, I could find a market for that.
What about this one ? http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762/Headshot
It's not Japanese, but it's really fat and almost butchered.
Janusz
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Fairly poor for a head wound, shouldn't even slow em down.
Im off to dive Tami island this friday and over the weekend so should be
good.
6°45'32.07"S 147°54'8.88"E have a google maps. not high res but beautiful
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dechucka - 17 Nov 2007 21:29 GMT
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What do they tast like? anything like Koala?
Joe English - 18 Nov 2007 00:30 GMT
> snip
>
> What do they tast like? anything like Koala?
I think they taste a little like bald eagle
dechucka - 18 Nov 2007 22:41 GMT
>> snip
>>
>> What do they tast like? anything like Koala?
>
> I think they taste a little like bald eagle
I had a sulphur crested cockatoo which could do impressions of anything,
fire a Smith & Wesson's New .500 Magnum Revolver it could get the sound of
the shot and the scream of the perp ( in this case the mailman delivering
the mail ( he did look threatening ) ) down pat, the call of butcher bird,
the sound of a siren, a kookaburra, SWMBO nagging he could do it all.
Unfortunately times got tough so we had to eat him. Tasted just like turkey
that bird could imitate anything
Greg Mossman - 18 Nov 2007 23:26 GMT
> I had a sulphur crested cockatoo which could do impressions of anything,
> fire a Smith & Wesson's New .500 Magnum Revolver it could get the sound of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Unfortunately times got tough so we had to eat him. Tasted just like turkey
> that bird could imitate anything
Funny how you're forced to eat cockatoos, yet all those sheep roam
around intact and bearing big smiles on their fuzzy little faces.
dechucka - 18 Nov 2007 23:38 GMT
>> I had a sulphur crested cockatoo which could do impressions of anything,
>> fire a Smith & Wesson's New .500 Magnum Revolver it could get the sound
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Funny how you're forced to eat cockatoos, yet all those sheep roam
> around intact and bearing big smiles on their fuzzy little faces.
you do know the recipe for cooking a cockatoo don't you.
Place cockatoo in billy with water and add 3 rocks, add any vegetables you
have and season to taste. Cook on a rolling boil for 6 hours. Take off heat
discard cockatoo and eat the rocks
crownfield - 17 Nov 2007 21:54 GMT
In article <69f181d9-6921-4d38-b899-e6ae43ea2827
@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, mossman@qnet.com says...
-"Japan's whaling fleet was set to leave port Sunday for its biggest-
-ever scientific whale hunt in the South Pacific, the government
-fisheries agency said. The whalers have orders to kill up to 50
-humpback whales -- the first known large-scale hunt for the species
-since a 1963 moratorium put humpbacks under international
-protection. . . . Along with the humpbacks, the 239-member mission
-that runs through April will also take up to 935 Antarctic minke
-whales and up to 50 fin whales in their largest scientific whale hunt
-ever held in the South Pacific, according to a report Japan submitted
-to the International Whaling Commission earlier this year."
-
-http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_as/japan_hunting_humpbacks;_ylt=AkL
uh4.y3GcH.vjs8YsAFbFxieAA
-
-What I wonder is, if there isn't any moratorium against it, why can't
-we hunt a certain number of Japanese every year for scientific
-purposes? They're taking 1,035 whales. I propose we take 1,035
-Japanese fishermen and find out what makes them want to kill whales.
-Only live brain dissections could truly give us an answer.
!! :)
-

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