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Scott - 10 Nov 2007 12:52 GMT 232 and counting.
OORAH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsCCOor1KX8
http://www.marines.mil/cmc/34cmc.nsf/CMCBirthdayMessage2007.pdf
mag3 - 10 Nov 2007 14:14 GMT >232 and counting. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >http://www.marines.mil/cmc/34cmc.nsf/CMCBirthdayMessage2007.pdf Semper Fi!
____________________________________________ Regards,
Arnold
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 11 Nov 2007 15:18 GMT > 232 and counting. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.marines.mil/cmc/34cmc.nsf/CMCBirthdayMessage2007.pdf 232 years!
Go Marines!
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Scott - 11 Nov 2007 15:24 GMT > > 232 and counting. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Go Marines! You'd think that the Europeans would chime in with at least a small recognition of the freedom given them.
In spite of their best efforts.
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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 11 Nov 2007 19:01 GMT > > > 232 and counting. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You'd think that the Europeans would chime in with at least a small > recognition of the freedom given them. Your idiocy is amazing. Maybe one of your more educated friends can enlighten you that during WWII in European theater there were no US Marines. They fought in the Pacific. http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq11-1.htm
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 13 Nov 2007 02:33 GMT <snip>
> > You'd think that the Europeans would chime in with at least a small > > recognition of the freedom given them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Marines. They fought in the Pacific. > http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq11-1.htm Your idiocy is amazing. I am one of Scott's friends, so I will inform you that during WW I (1917-1918) in European theater there were US marines.
:) I know, Europe has had so many wars it's difficult to keep track. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/HD/Chronologies/Campaign/WWI_1917-1919.htm
Oh, and you may want to check these as regards to your claim that "that during WWII in European theater there were no US Marines"
http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/USMCETO.html http://www.hotmcl.org/europe.html
Dennis
Scott - 13 Nov 2007 09:05 GMT > in > > > messagenews:13je7dfhqqi1630@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > > Your idiocy is amazing. Oh. My. Gawd.
> > Maybe one of your more educated friends can > > enlighten you that during WWII in European theater there were no US [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/USMCETO.html > http://www.hotmcl.org/europe.html Why bother?
Another 20 years goes by and dipshits like jAnusz will have you believe the Polish Marines freed Europe from Nazi rule.
Scott - 13 Nov 2007 14:15 GMT > Your idiocy is amazing. I am one of Scott's friends, so I will inform you > that during WW I (1917-1918) in European theater there were US marines. > :) I know, Europe has had so many wars it's difficult to keep track. And not just in Europe.
Crusades, Our own revolutionary war, etc.
Gotta remember this jackoff (jAnusz) is the rocket surgeon that wants to blame the US for dumping Nazi chemical weapons (and just about anything else he can dream up) after we freed them from Nazi rule.
Lec Walesa would be proud... <ducking>
http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/ct_bw.htm
https://www.mfe.usmc.mil/
http://www.eucom.mil/english/FullStory.asp?art=609
http://poland.usembassy.gov/poland/marinewalk.html
http://poland.usembassy.gov/poland/msg.html
> http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/HD/Chronologies/Campaign/WWI_1917-1919.htm
> Oh, and you may want to check these as regards to your claim that "that > during WWII in European theater there were no US > Marines" > > http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/USMCETO.html > http://www.hotmcl.org/europe.html This Marine had a Polish wife;
http://chezjacq.com/maj_ortiz.htm
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 13 Nov 2007 22:08 GMT > > Your idiocy is amazing. I am one of Scott's friends, so I will inform you > > that during WW I (1917-1918) in European theater there were US marines. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Crusades, Our own revolutionary war, etc. Scotty, take your pill. Not a single US Marine took place in Crusades.
> Gotta remember this jackoff (jAnusz) is the rocket surgeon that wants to > blame the US for dumping Nazi chemical weapons (and just about anything else > he can dream up) after we freed them from Nazi rule. them? IIRC it was job of Soviet and Polish forces. Maybe you have to buy a map of Europe and ask somebody better educated to show you how to use it.
> Lec Walesa would be proud... <ducking> who?
> http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/ct_bw.htm > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://chezjacq.com/maj_ortiz.htm This guy had a Polish girlfriend. If you have problem to distinguish between two forms of relationship you have to ask your girlfriend. I'm sure she will explain it to you.
It's really funny that you mentioned Ortiz. He was son of Frenchman, was educated in France, received French military training, fought with the French forces etc. and it was enough to promote him - French NCO to the rank of captain in U.S. Marine Corps.
Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 13 Nov 2007 21:54 GMT On 13 Lis, 03:33, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that during WW I (1917-1918) in European theater there were US marines. > :) I know, Europe has had so many wars it's difficult to keep track. Dennis, your idiocy is really amazing. My statement was clear to anybody with at least elementary reading skills - WWII and you response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to keep track. Maybe you need something about WWI and compare the reason of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom given to Europeans by the US Marines. If you like WWI so much probably you have heard that number of US Marines in Europe at the time roughly equals the number of American volunteers who joined Polish Army in France.
> http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/HD/Chronologies/Campaign/WWI_1917-1919.htm > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/USMCETO.htmlhttp://www.hotmcl.org/europe.html You must be desperate to count OSS officers as Marines. Try a little harder and you will find some more guys who fought in Europe and later joined Marines.
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 13 Nov 2007 23:06 GMT > On 13 Lis, 03:33, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Dennis, your idiocy is really amazing. My statement was clear to > anybody with at least elementary reading skills - WWII and you Scott didn't limit his comments to WW II though.
> response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said > there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to > keep track. Maybe you need something about WWI and compare the reason I have no trouble with it.
> of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > during WWII in European theater there were no US > > Marines" http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/USMCETO.htmlhttp://www.hotmcl.org/europe.html
> You must be desperate to count OSS officers as Marines. Try a little > harder and you will find some more guys who fought in Europe and later > joined Marines. What about the chaps who were planning the amphibious assaults?
Dennis
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 14 Nov 2007 13:57 GMT On 14 Lis, 00:09, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Scott didn't limit his comments to WW II though. That's why I said "Dennis, your idiocy is really amazing". Because I like you small hint - WWI is sometimes called "family affair".
> > response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said > > there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to > > keep track. Maybe you need something about WWI and compare the reason > > I have no trouble with it. Oh Yes, you have. No doubt about it.
> > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > What about the chaps who were planning the amphibious assaults? You must be really desperate. Did they work as Marine planners or maybe as Army or Navy?
Janusz
> Dennis Dennis (Icarus) - 21 Nov 2007 02:24 GMT > On 14 Lis, 00:09, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > That's why I said "Dennis, your idiocy is really amazing". Because I > like you small hint - WWI is sometimes called "family affair". And it's at other times called "The Great War" or "The War to End All Wars".
> > > response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said > > > there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to > > > keep track. Maybe you need something about WWI and compare the reason > > > > I have no trouble with it. > Oh Yes, you have. No doubt about it. Oh there's quite a bit of doubt.
> > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > You must be really desperate. > Did they work as Marine planners or maybe as Army or Navy? Read the links provided, and learn.
Dennis
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 21 Nov 2007 09:26 GMT On 21 Lis, 03:24, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > And it's at other times called "The Great War" or "The War to End All Wars". and nothing about freedom?
> > > > response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said > > > > there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh there's quite a bit of doubt. Futile hope.
> > > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Read the links provided, and learn. Really desperate
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 21 Nov 2007 13:43 GMT > On 21 Lis, 03:24, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > and nothing about freedom? Well, lets see, after WW 1, Poland weas reconstituted with a democratic government, as was tried elsewhere in Central Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_%281918-1939%29
You may want to read this too, and learn. http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1917/wilswarm.html "Neutrality is no longer feasible or desirable where the peace of the world is involved and the freedom of its peoples, and the menace to that peace and freedom lies in the existence of autocratic governments backed by organized force which is controlled wholly by their will, not by the will of their people. We have seen the last of neutrality in such circumstances. We are at the beginning of an age in which it will be insisted that the same standards of conduct and of responsibility for wrong done shall be observed among nations and their governments that are observed among the individual citizens of civilized states. "
> > > > > response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you said > > > > > there were so many wars in Europe that it is difficult for you to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Futile hope. I know, so you should give it up, since the facts do contradict your view.
> > > > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > > > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Really desperate That you'd attempt to learn? Yes, it seems so.
Dennis
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 26 Nov 2007 11:01 GMT On 21 Lis, 14:43, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > Well, lets see, after WW 1, Poland weas reconstituted with a democratic > government, as was tried elsewhere in Central Europe.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland_%281918-1939%29 As you correctly mentioned - AFTER and it was quite a fight - unfortunately no US Marines involved. Of course you can find some American volunteers with Marine Corps background, but they did fight as Polish soldiers.
You can read about the events and learn (as it was prepared for American students) http://web.ku.edu/~eceurope/hist557/lect11.htm
> You may want to read this too, and learn.http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1917/wilswarm.html > "Neutrality is no longer feasible or desirable where the peace of the world [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > nations and their governments that are observed among the individual > citizens of civilized states. " and on the basis of this speech you think that the war was about freedom? Dennis you have a lot to learn. Maybe you can tell us why Wilson at the end of his life thought that he lied to the American people and his motives to go to war were in vain. Maybe you can also learn a little about idealism vs. realism in politics.
> > > > > > response was about WWI. It is really small difference, but as you > said [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I know, so you should give it up, since the facts do contradict your view. Logics is not your strong point, is it? And you should check the meaning of the word "contradict".
> > > > > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > > > > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > That you'd attempt to learn? Yes, it seems so. So far I'm not the one who refuse to learn. I'm all the time open to knowledge, real knowledge. It's a pity that I can't say the same about you. Unfortunately as a born optimist I have hope that some day you will learn about some of your deficiencies.
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 27 Nov 2007 02:32 GMT > On 21 Lis, 14:43, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:27a659fc-87ee-460b-9d3b-921f64f49b02@b32g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > On 21 Lis, 03:24, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > American volunteers with Marine Corps background, but they did fight > as Polish soldiers. So you do admit Marines were there! Wow! Finally!
So what exactly ws yhour problem with Scott's statement, again?
> You can read about the events and learn (as it was prepared for > American students) [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and on the basis of this speech you think that the war was about > freedom? Dennis you have a lot to learn. That was just one example. Google, and you'll be able to find others.
<snip>
> > > Futile hope. > > > > I know, so you should give it up, since the facts do contradict your view. > > Logics is not your strong point, is it? And you should check the > meaning of the word "contradict". I know what it means.
> > > > > > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about freedom > > > > > > > given to Europeans by the US Marines. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > So far I'm not the one who refuse to learn. I'm all the time open to > knowledge, real knowledge. It's a pity that I can't say the same about No, you're not.
Dennis
Scott - 27 Nov 2007 03:07 GMT > No, you're not. Never has, never will.
I knew I'd reel him in all the way to the ferrules.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 27 Nov 2007 09:16 GMT > > No, you're not. > > Never has, never will. > > I knew I'd reel him in all the way to the ferrules. Scotty, take your pill.
Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 27 Nov 2007 09:15 GMT On 27 Lis, 03:34, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > So you do admit Marines were there! Wow! Finally! Reading problem? Could you read my statement with at least elementary comprehension? I suppose the task is really difficult for you some small hints. US Marines are jihadists and al-Qaeda followers http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/94390_arrest06.shtml
US Marines are muslims and deserters - Abdul Raheem Al Arshad Ali
US Marines have Hezbollah ties - http://www.nypost.com/seven/11192007/news/nationalnews/a_new_jihad_jane_725026.htm
Do you get it or it is still too difficult for you?
> So what exactly ws yhour problem with Scott's statement, again? OMG, memory problems? LOOK UP
> > You can read about the events and learn (as it was prepared for > > American students) [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > That was just one example. Google, and you'll be able to find others. You have to be kidding. If you want to prove your point it's your job to find cites - Google. :-)))
> <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I know what it means. Once again you are wrong - "contradict" is not synonym to "confirm"
> > > > > > > > of the war with your friend in idiocy dumb statement about > freedom [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > No, you're not. LOL. Oh Yes, I'm
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 27 Nov 2007 12:16 GMT > On 27 Lis, 03:34, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message <snip>
> > > As you correctly mentioned - AFTER and it was quite a fight - > > > unfortunately no US Marines involved. Of course you can find some [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > US Marines are jihadists and al-Qaeda followers > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/94390_arrest06.shtml What's the relationship to that and WW I or WW II?
:-)
> US Marines are muslims and deserters - Abdul Raheem Al Arshad Ali The article doesn't say he deserted.
> US Marines have Hezbollah ties - http://www.nypost.com/seven/11192007/news/nationalnews/a_new_jihad_jane_725026.htm
Oddly, what the article says s that the illegal immigrant with Hezbollah ties has a former sister-in-law who also entered into a fraudulent marriage to gain citizenship. It doesn't say that Spinelli (the Marine officer) had ties to Hezbollah.
Read this, slowly, sound out the words "Spinelli - along with Nada Prouty's sister and her Hezbollah-connected husband, Talil Kahil Chahine - was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the feds' case against Nada Prouty."
> Do you get it or it is still too difficult for you? Yes, your reading comprehension is even worse than I thought.
> > So what exactly ws yhour problem with Scott's statement, again? > > OMG, memory problems? LOOK UP Scott's statement was that Marines were part of the forces that liberated Europe. You thought he was wrong. I provided cites that supported Scott's statement, both for WW I and WW II.
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> > > and on the basis of this speech you think that the war was about > > > freedom? Dennis you have a lot to learn. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You have to be kidding. If you want to prove your point it's your job > to find cites - Google. :-))) I have. You're the one who claimed that it wasn't about freedom. Your turn.
:-)
> > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Once again you are wrong - "contradict" is not synonym to "confirm" And I'm saying that the facts contradict your view. They do not confirm it.
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> LOL. Oh Yes, I'm > > Janusz Yes, I know you're Janusz.
Dennis
Scott - 27 Nov 2007 12:25 GMT > Yes, I know you're Janusz. I am starting to wonder if it isnt actually spelled "Jealous".
Thanks for trying, but I wouldn't waste a keystroke on the loser/idiot.
The Marines and their history speak for themselves.
Socialist pig scrotums like Janus just cant handle the truth, and that's OK.
Dennis (Icarus) - 27 Nov 2007 12:37 GMT > > Yes, I know you're Janusz. > > I am starting to wonder if it isnt actually spelled "Jealous". > > Thanks for trying, but I wouldn't waste a keystroke on the loser/idiot. It does seem to be fairly futile.
> The Marines and their history speak for themselves. Indeed.
Dennis
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 28 Nov 2007 00:15 GMT >> > Yes, I know you're Janusz. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It does seem to be fairly futile. Remember that the lying, ignorant Jew-hater jAnus is Futile John's fancyboy.
>> The Marines and their history speak for themselves. > > Indeed. > > Dennis
 Signature "I don't know much about the different guns but based on the tv I watch there are lots of automatic weapons out there. In fact I'm sure they're in the majority, certainly in the handgun department. I guess my concern would be with the more easily concealed weapons capable of firing sustained bursts at extreme cycling rates." -JOF
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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 27 Nov 2007 23:36 GMT On 27 Lis, 13:21, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote:
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > What's the relationship to that and WW I or WW II? > :-) Need hint to hint?
> > US Marines are muslims and deserters - Abdul Raheem Al Arshad Ali > > The article doesn't say he deserted. What about this one? Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun Definetely he is a muslim a deserter
> > US Marines have Hezbollah ties - > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to gain citizenship. > It doesn't say that Spinelli (the Marine officer) had ties to Hezbollah.
> Read this, slowly, sound out the words > "Spinelli - along with Nada Prouty's sister and her Hezbollah-connected > husband, Talil Kahil Chahine - was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in > the feds' case against Nada Prouty." Now it's time for you - read it really slow and try to understand - "co-conspirator" If you have a lot of time you can practise your reading http://www.cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_Prouty_Case.html
> > Do you get it or it is still too difficult for you? > > Yes, your reading comprehension is even worse than I thought. Be careful with "thinking" - you can get terrible headache.
> > > So what exactly ws yhour problem with Scott's statement, again? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Europe. You thought he was wrong. > I provided cites that supported Scott's statement, both for WW I and WW II. No, my not too clever friend. Your brother in idiocy stated " You'd think that the Europeans would chime in with at least a small recognition of the freedom given them. In spite of their best efforts." Of course you can't see what is wrong with this statement and I know why - lack of elementary education and complete idiocy. If the first part alone theoretically could be improved the second one precludes it. I did my best to force you into thinking, but in vain. As I'm not qualified in special education I have no other choice but to give up trying to teach you.
Janusz
Dennis (Icarus) - 28 Nov 2007 03:35 GMT > On 27 Lis, 13:21, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:031765f5-d64c-4765-af35-1d9c3a9082d0@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > > On 27 Lis, 03:34, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > > > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > What about this one? Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun > Definetely he is a muslim a deserter There are those who desert.
> > > US Marines have Hezbollah ties - > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If you have a lot of time you can practise your reading > http://www.cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_Prouty_Case.html Of what crime? fraudulenty appropriating citizenship. Not of ties to Hezbollah.
> > > Do you get it or it is still too difficult for you? > > > > Yes, your reading comprehension is even worse than I thought. > > Be careful with "thinking" - you can get terrible headache. I don't, because I'm quite used to it. You may want to try tylenol.
> > > > So what exactly ws yhour problem with Scott's statement, again? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > recognition of the freedom given them. > In spite of their best efforts." And what part of his statement is incorrect?
> Of course you can't see what is wrong with this statement and I know > why - lack of elementary education and complete idiocy. If the first > part alone theoretically could be improved the second one precludes > it. I did my best to force you into thinking, but in vain. As I'm not > qualified in special education I have no other choice but to give up > trying to teach you. No, it's because there IS nothing wrong with his statement.
Dennis
Scott - 28 Nov 2007 09:40 GMT > No, it's because there IS nothing wrong with his statement. Well, we got one to chime in.
Next time they start eating each other, my vote is to let them.
Greg Mossman - 13 Nov 2007 00:08 GMT > You'd think that the Europeans would chime in with at least a small > recognition of the freedom given them. > > In spite of their best efforts. You have to post a Happy Birthday to yourself, then complain when everyone ignores it?
How sad.
Blow out a candle for me.
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