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Scuba Forum / General / November 2007Eden Rock Diving Center?
My Wife and I are going down to Grand Cayman to do our certification dives. I have been investigating dive shops and came upon Eden Rock Diving Center. Their prices are by far the lowest I've seen and they seem to use small boats Has anyone made use of these folks? Is it a case of "you get what you pay for?" ghbrown60640@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :My Wife and I are going down to Grand Cayman to do our certification :dives. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :Has anyone made use of these folks? Is it a case of "you get what you :pay for?" If you are staying at a resort with an on site dive shop, the convenience of using them might justify whatever extra cost there is. Along the same lines, Eden Rock is just south of Georgetown. Where is your hotel? Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > If you are staying at a resort with an on site dive shop, the > convenience of using them might justify whatever extra cost there is. > > Along the same lines, Eden Rock is just south of Georgetown. Where is > your hotel? We are staying at the Beach Club Colony Hotel. Its up by the Hyatt on 7 mile beach. I haven't heard good things about the on-site dive shop (Resort Sports Ltd.) and when I tried to get ahold of them they seemed, frankly, pretty disorganized. Red Sail is next door though and they appear to have a pretty good reputation. It wasn't just the price that attracted me, it was the fact that they use small boats and have departure times that are later than the others (we tend to be later risers on vacation). They also apparently arrange van service from our hotel. I just figured if they had a good reputation, why not use the one that costs less money. However, if we were going to have a bad experience I would obviously prefer to fork over the extra bucks. ghbrown60640@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :We are staying at the Beach Club Colony Hotel. Its up by the Hyatt on :7 mile beach. I haven't heard good things about the on-site dive shop [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] :were going to have a bad experience I would obviously prefer to fork :over the extra bucks. What a co-incidence, I stayed at the Beach Colony last December. Trip report is here. http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/Trips/cayman06.htm If Eden Rock is offering you van service, go for it. You have to take a van with Resorts Sports anyhow. Red Sail picks you up from the beach though. But they have big boats and early departure times. Just so you know, you may miss lunch if you go with Eden Rock. I don't remember the details, but the Beach Colony did not have continous feeding. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > ghbrown60...@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > What a co-incidence, I stayed at the Beach Colony last December. Trip > report is here. http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/Trips/cayman06.htm Thanks, I actually read your review already. That and the general feeling of disorganization I experienced on the phone with them was what turned me off to the Beach Colony's dive shop. I'm leaning more and more towards eden rock. I have seen some positive reviews on tripadvisor. I will put out a positive or negative report when we get back in January. On Nov 9, 7:33 am, ghbrown60...@gmail.com wrote: > My Wife and I are going down to Grand Cayman to do our certification > dives. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Has anyone made use of these folks? Is it a case of "you get what you > pay for?" It depends what you're paying for, I guess. I've used the Eden Rock shop. I've never used their boats, nor have I used the Red Sail boats. Why? Because I prefer less commercial operations that don't make the bulk of their money off of cruiseship divers. Why? Because I don't want to have to dive like a cruiseship diver. Pick whichever popular cruiseship dive shop you wish. They'll all be competent enough to make sure you probably won't die underwater. On the other hand, in an effort to make sure you won't all die underwater, you and your cruiseship buddies, they'll probably make sure you have the least exciting dive profiles imaginable. Grand Cayman already has a bad reputation of governmentally limiting recreation dive profiles. Being further limited would only make my rectum contract, but your mileage may vary. Enjoy! > It depends what you're paying for, I guess. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > recreation dive profiles. Being further limited would only make my > rectum contract, but your mileage may vary. Enjoy! Thanks, I love being turned into a meaningless stereotype. Jesus Christ man grow the f.ck up. I have never been on this group until now and you immediately: 1) Decide that I fit a specific profile. 2) Decide to insult me based on that profile. 3) Don't even take the f.cking time to provide any helpful advice on the companies YOU WOULD ACTUALLY USE. f.ck you. I'm done here. See you in the funny papers. On Nov 10, 8:57 pm, ghbrown60...@gmail.com wrote: > > It depends what you're paying for, I guess. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I love being turned into a meaningless stereotype. You weren't turned into one, you were one already. I was trying to help change you into something better. If you want to stay a stereotype then trust me, your response is exactly stereotypical. Congratulations. > Jesus Christ man grow the f.ck up. I'm a Jew. That Jesus Christ sh.t does nothing to me. > I have never been on this group until now and you immediately: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > f.ck you. Yep. > I'm done here. Yep. > See you in the funny papers. Yep. Like I said, completely stereotypical. Have a nice trip, especially with Red Sail. Tell all the cruisers I said hi. If you want better advice, you can always ask. But since you seem a bit testy, I doubt you will. And yes, that's another stereotype. Testy think-they-know-it-all idiots rarely ask for more help. > Thanks, > > I love being turned into a meaningless stereotype. > > Jesus Christ man grow the f.ck up. He's a LA lawyer and a liberal so far gone to the left that centrism isnt even on his horizon. Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life is so wasted and miserable that this is entertaining to him. He'll be right along to inform us all of how much money, prestige, cars, blah, blah and the rest of it. Call me drunken trailer trash (never lived in one), redneck, etc. He's the new KKK. > I have never been on this group until now and you immediately: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > See you in the funny papers. Dont let the foaming, raging bigot/fagot run you off. There is plenty to be learned and shared here, plus you immediately got one of the most important lessons, which is to ignore anything and everything this shitbag says. Dude, you are way ahead of the curve. It took many of us a couple years to come to the conclusion you got with one post. > > Jesus Christ man grow the f.ck up. > > He's a LA lawyer and a liberal so far gone to the left that centrism isnt > even on his horizon. So what's your opinion about Eden Rock Diving Center? Oh, you haven't been there? Then what's your opinion on other Grand Cayman dive shops and dive ops? Oh, you haven't been there? I've rented stuff from this shop three times. It's right near the cruise ship pier. I've never heard of anyone diving with them simply because no one I respect as a diver would think of diving with them. Since when did you become such a champion of cruise ship divers? > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life is > so wasted and miserable that this is entertaining to him. Actually it has been miserable the past week after working every day, including today, but hopefully not wasted. The trick is to make my life miserable enough the next three weeks so I can truly enjoy myself when I leave for Bonaire on December 1. What's your opinion of Bonaire? Oh, you haven't been there? You haven't been anywhere, have you? Well, Florida and St. Thomas, but you were too busy working to get any dives in. And you call my life miserable and wasted? > He'll be right along to inform us all of how much money, prestige, cars, > blah, blah and the rest of it. Pretty broke right now. I sunk almost everything into the new store besides making my life miserable with too much work. But that's sometimes the nature of business. You have to take risks. If you had any balls, you could try having your own business too. Supposedly some people like your backplates. Instead, you're reduced to a sniping pussy, spamming here to make a few extra bucks so you can afford another bottle of tequila. How sad. > Call me drunken trailer trash (never lived in one), redneck, etc. I don't think you came up in this thread until you reared your pointy little head. But now that you mention it, you're a drunken trailer trash redneck piece of sh.t. Happy now? > He's the new KKK. I do own some white pillowcases. But I'm certainly not a racist like you. I just have a bias against drunken trailer trash redneck pieces of sh.t. Happy now? > Dont let the foaming, raging bigot/fagot run you off. Bigot/fagot? If you spelled it right, it would be a great example of your extreme hypocrisy, calling me a bigot while simultaneously using a derogatory term for a strata of society that doesn't even fit me. Instead it's simply a great example of your stupidity. Everyone knows that faggot has two g's. > There is plenty to be learned and shared here, plus you immediately got one > of the most important lessons, which is to ignore anything and everything > this shitbag says. Obviously not by you. I'm still waiting for you to weigh on Eden Rock Diving Center, the name of this thread and the subject of this thread until you posted your off-topic rant. > It took many of us a couple years to come to the conclusion you got with one > post. Many of you? What's their opinion on Eden Rock Diving Center? Oh, they haven't been there? Why don't the many of you start a thread on trailer diving. Obviously that's a subject dear to your collective hearts. I've always wondered how close you can get the trailer to water without having to worry that it would fall in. And, what's the underwater half-life of empty Bud cans? > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life is > so wasted and miserable that this is entertaining to him. Oh Jehovah, this was just too rich to let pass by without comment. eeo > > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life is > > so wasted and miserable that this is entertaining to him. > Oh Jehovah, this was just too rich to let pass by without comment. Another moth to the flame. So make a comment. Wiccan. >> > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life > is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wiccan. How did we get to discussing religion? > How did we get to discussing religion? What makes you think Wicca is a religion, or that if it is that lefties like you have a clue as how to practice it proper? > What makes you think Wicca is a religion, or that if it is that lefties like > you have a clue as how to practice it proper? It all boils down to virgin sacrifice... It doesn't matter what the religion might be... The only differences is their definition of the terms "virgin" and "sacrifice"... For muslims, "virgin" is defined as "any slow moving camel" and "sacrifice" is defined as "hold on baby, Alah's gonna put a smile on your face"... >> > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life > is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wiccan. And the bulk of Eric's posts would constitute what, exactly? And he's carl nisraels' butt surfing buddy, too...  Signature"If you guys would just settle to earth and admit that guns are just noisy potentially dangerous tools and quit waving them around like a steel dick then there's be no need for discussions like this." - JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 > >> > Abusing people here is how he makes himself feel good, because his life > > is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > And the bulk of Eric's posts would constitute what, exactly? <rhetorical> > And he's carl nisraels' butt surfing buddy, too... Ahh yes, the "liberal elite" is perfectly represented. At least Eric has a woman to make a living for him. "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message > And the bulk of Eric's posts would constitute what, exactly? > > And he's carl nisraels' butt surfing buddy, too... Hey Pops, I've been wondering about you. How are you doing? We haven't been getting along since shrub was elected but that doesn't mean I don't care about you. Send me an email. eeo > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > message [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > getting along since shrub was elected but that doesn't mean I don't care > about you. Send me an email. I hope you fuckin die. It's low enough to actively support the Hussein regime (still), and terrorism in general, costing American lives, just because of your blind hate for Bush (more insidiously: people who don't think like you). But spooning with Nisrael to take cheap shots at me puts you in a special class of loser. Like Sheryl giving Kramer a reach-around for a cheap point. And Futile John's alien abduction or whatever happened to him. I'm tired of your continual unsolicited cheap shots. I put my time in, while you were baking or waxing the kitchen or whatever, and have tried to do more yet. All you do is drag the flag in the mud, and give aid and comfort to the enemy. Big talk for the Betty Crocker Mom-Of-The-Year. You're the forth friend I've punted here in more than ten years, and it was your choice, and your -extensive- actions. Luckily, there are a score or more of others that will be my friends for life. I really don't care who wins next November, because it just doesn't effect me that much, but on the probability that we will (Billary took a couple good torpedoes this week, and I highly doubt this country will elect -any- woman president yet), I'll laugh myself into an aneurism thinking about you. Signature"If you guys would just settle to earth and admit that guns are just noisy potentially dangerous tools and quit waving them around like a steel dick then there's be no need for discussions like this." - JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 WOW! O.K. We've been through a lot. We've never been "best of buds" but I've always enjoyed the repartee. You aren't a dumb guy. If you don't want to make up and play nice, I'll understand but where the heck did this come from?: > But spooning with Nisrael to take cheap shots at me puts you in a special > class of loser. eeo > WOW! > > O.K. We've been through a lot. We've never been "best of buds" Well, stupid me, I thought we were. > but I've always enjoyed the repartee. You aren't a dumb guy. If you > don't want to make up and play nice, I'll understand but where the heck > did this come from?: Typical of your type to take a low brow shot so casually as to not even remember it. Everybody else in usenet treats nisrael like the ebola virus, and you were smoking his pole. Good luck finding it, that piece of sh.t Xoffs all his sockpuppets. >> But spooning with Nisrael to take cheap shots at me puts you in a >> special class of loser. > > eeo Signature"If you guys would just settle to earth and admit that guns are just noisy potentially dangerous tools and quit waving them around like a steel dick then there's be no need for discussions like this." - JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762 "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in message > Typical of your type to take a low brow shot so casually as to not even > remember it. OK. I apologize if I have harmed you in any way. eeo > "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in > message > > Typical of your type to take a low brow shot so casually as to not even > > remember it. > OK. I apologize if I have harmed you in any way. Don't think so much of yourself. You didn't hurt him (as if), you simply pissed him off with your punk bullshit and he tossed your two-faced, ungrateful, arrogant, pinko a.s under the bus where you belong. The people you hurt are those who gave and keep dickheads like you free enough to be all the a.shole you are. Only in America. But, in spite of your best effort, and the best efforts of other far left partisan, lickspittle, socialist dog turds like you, Al Qaeda is getting it's a.s kicked; http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07322/834685-373.stm Even if you morons manage to put those criminals back into the White House, you will be doing so with the world watching how you handle the hard work and sacrifice made by your peers, because this time, instead of HillBillary kicking the can of Islamic Fascism and mass-murder into the next administration and pardoning criminals on the way out the door (with all the loot they could haul), you idiots are going to have to back up a successful campaign for freedom for all people, the liberation of millions, and my money says you'll f.ck it up like you always do. Narcissus had nothing on you douchebags. Signature"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams > Even if you morons manage to put those criminals back into the White House, > you will be doing so with the world watching how you handle the hard work [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > campaign for freedom for all people, the liberation of millions, and my > money says you'll f.ck it up like you always do. Damn, if I could score whatever dope you're obviously smokin', I'd be a happy man. > > Even if you morons manage to put those criminals back into the White House, > > you will be doing so with the world watching how you handle the hard work [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Damn, if I could score whatever dope you're obviously smokin', I'd be > a happy man. Don't know what makes you think that Greg. It sure as hell doesn't make him a happy man... gc > > > Even if you morons manage to put those criminals back into the White House, > > > you will be doing so with the world watching how you handle the hard work [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Don't know what makes you think that Greg. It sure as hell doesn't > make him a happy man... But at least he's high enough to think he is. > Everybody else in usenet treats nisrael like the ebola virus, and you were > smoking his pole. Just wanted to highlight that one. He earned it. > WOW! > O.K. We've been through a lot. We've never been "best of buds" but I've > always enjoyed the repartee. You aren't a dumb guy. If you don't want to > make up and play nice, I'll understand but where the heck did this come > from?: Not real f.cking bright, are you? > > WOW! > > O.K. We've been through a lot. We've never been "best of buds" but I've [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Not real f.cking bright, are you? Marrying a rich doctor chick who moved then to Hawaii and supports them? Suds is the smartest (or luckiest) guy I know. If there's anyone I might envy in this group, it's gotta be him. Maybe there's something to that Wicca stuff after all. >> > WOW! >> > O.K. We've been through a lot. We've never been "best of buds" but I've [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >might envy in this group, it's gotta be him. Maybe there's something >to that Wicca stuff after all. That's very democratic of you. JF > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:54:13 -0800 (PST), Greg Mossman > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > That's very democratic of you. That's because I'm a Democrat. We Democrats love our women taking care of us. Madam Hillary for Pres! Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : Because I don't want to have to dive like a cruiseship :diver. How is that exactly? Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How is that exactly? Probably on an overpriced cattleboat where the profiles and diver behavior are rigidly controlled by DMs bent on preserving their no accident record so they keep their lucrative cruiseship contracts. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Probably on an overpriced cattleboat where the profiles and diver :behavior are rigidly controlled by DMs bent on preserving their no :accident record so they keep their lucrative cruiseship contracts. My observations are different. I dove with cruise ship passengers with Resort Sports in Grand Cayman last year. While there was cattle boat potential, it did not happen that week. Hotel guests and cruise shippers were equally restricted, be back in an hour. The DMs did seem concerned about keeping their contracts though. They did urge ther cruise shippers to mention to their ship dive directors that they enjoyed their dive excursion, and to lie about the dive shop if they didn't. Admittedly, that was not Eden Rock diving. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Admittedly, that was not Eden Rock diving. And admittedly, there are exceptions to every stereotype. Otherwise they wouldn't just be stereotypes, they'd be full-fledged characteristics. Hi Folks, After sleeping on this and rereading Gregs post I realize I read WAY too much into it and overreacted. I felt really insulted by the term "cruiseship diver" because thats exactly what I am not trying to be. I want to do this right, which is why I am taking a week down there to dedicate to learning the ropes after My classroom and pool training. The resources out there for evaluating scuba shops in Grand Cayman is pretty thin and Eden Rock appealed to me for what I saw to be precisely what greg was talking about In terms of a scuba provider. >From what I could see on their website they appeared to be a small operation with reasonable prices and a small boat. I may be wrong about that. At any rate, I apologize to greg and everyone on this list for the inordinate disruption of civility. > Hi Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > At any rate, I apologize to greg and everyone on this list for the > inordinate disruption of civility. Relax, no biggie here. > > At any rate, I apologize to greg and everyone on this list for the > > inordinate disruption of civility. > Relax, no biggie here. It just shows he's man enough to apologize, unlike a certain runt- brain scum-of-the-earth machinist who runs his dumb mouth here whenever he thinks he has a sniper shot at me from under someone else's skirt. Go play with your machines, machine-boy, and leave the thinking to real adults. For the original poster. You could always pre-book Eden Rock for the first couple of days and see how it goes. If their later schedule is costing you lunch, make an adjustment. The onsite shop is not that bad when they actually take you out diving. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. >Hi Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >At any rate, I apologize to greg and everyone on this list for the >inordinate disruption of civility. There are folks here with far more experience than me with GC dive ops but here's my take. I spent 2 weeks there just after Hurricane Michelle and saw little to choose from between the different ops for the average tourist type diver. Some ops are more tech oriented (Dive Tech) although they also cater to the rec divers while others just cater to us run of the mill types. I didn't go out on the Eden Rock boats but we spent float time with some of them over dive sites and/or ran into them at the dock. I also did a number of shore dives at their facility and my conclusion was that I wouldn't hesitate to sign up with them for some reef dives, especially if they pick me up at the resort and have the best prices. You're staying only a short distance away but a little further than you'd want to walk. We did it one day but not carrying gear and wearing wet bathing suits. They have a nice shore dive site right out in front of the shop and you can save a lot of money by diving there. Just rent your tanks and weights and climb in. They have lockers you can use to store your shore stuff (unless one of the hurricanes washed them away). For the most part the diving on GC is pretty straighforward and if you're just doing your cert I'm sure you'll be taken to the easiest sites, and that's really easy. The nice thing about GC is that wherever the wind is coming from, the dive boats just go to the lee side of the island for calm water and smooth easy exits, and there's something to see wherever you go. IMNSHO it's a great place to start diving. Once you've done a bit you may get a little more particular but for now I'm sure you'll be thrilled with the diving you get to do. I'm pretty sure you'll have a ball and feel good about your trip. Have fun. JF JOF <jofrancis@gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :You're staying only a short distance away but a little further than :you'd want to walk. We did it one day but not carrying gear and :wearing wet bathing suits. Actually, he's staying on 7 Mile Beach, north of Georgetown. Eden Rock is south of town. That's what makes the pick me up van so nice. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. >JOF <jofrancis@gmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: >:You're staying only a short distance away but a little further than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Actually, he's staying on 7 Mile Beach, north of Georgetown. Eden >Rock is south of town. That's what makes the pick me up van so nice. Mea culpa. I didn't realize how far north he was. Our resort was close to Georgetown, next to Treasure Island Resort (did it finally close btw?) and not too awful bad a walk, but not something I'd want to do every day or carrying my dive gear. JF Another one I have found is Ambassador Divers. They appear to be committed to small boat operations and are relatively reasonably priced. They do appear to be located on south church st however so we have the same distance issue although it really isnt that bad for either of them if they are supplying for transport (haven't confirmed that yet). Anyone worked with them? ghbrown60640@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I felt really insulted by the term "cruiseship diver" because thats :exactly what I am not trying to be. I want to do this right, which is :why I am taking a week down there to dedicate to learning the ropes :after My classroom and pool training. One conclusion you can probably draw, is that none of us have been on an Eden Rock boat. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. |
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