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Scuba Forum / General / October 2007Reply from one of my Senators Re: shark finning
Dear Mr. Koplin , Thank you for contacting me with your opposition to shark fin soup. I appreciate hearing from you, and regret the delayed response. As you may know, shark finning was restricted by the passage of the Shark Finning Prohibition Act of 2000 (H.R.5461), which outlawed finning in United States waters and by United States vessels. The bill passed the Senate by a unanimous vote and was signed into law on December 21, 2000. The finning practice that was banned involved catching sharks, removing their fins for the purpose of sale, and then returning the carcass to the sea. The sharks are often still living. Because the ban was put in place to combat this specific procedure, it is still possible to obtain shark fins, as long as those shark fins are not obtained in this fashion. If the carcass is not discarded at sea, fins can be brought to shore for sale. Additionally, shark fins can be imported to the United States if they are imported with the carcass. These legal avenues mean that shark fin soup is not outlawed under the Shark Finning Prohibition Act. You are right to be concerned about shark protection, and we in the United States need to continue to work with other countries to protect wild animals, particularly those whose populations are dwindling. Throughout my time in the Senate, I have worked to protect our endangered species. For each of the last three years, I have signed a letter to ask for funding for the Multinational Species Conservation Fund. In April of 2007, I cosponsored legislation that established the second annual Endangered Species Awareness Day, so the public could be educated about what is happening to endangered species around the world. I will continue to be a strong supporter of protecting and preserving our threatened species. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should any legislation regarding shark fins or their procurement come before the Senate. Thank you again for writing me to share your thoughts on this matter. Finally, you may be interested in signing up for my weekly update for Washington State residents. Every Monday, I provide a brief outline about my work in the Senate and issues of importance to Washington State . If you are interested in subscribing to this update, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov . Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance. Sincerely, Maria Cantwell United States Senator For future correspondence with my office, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.html On Oct 19, 7:24 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should any > legislation regarding shark fins or their procurement come before the > Senate. Amazing she already had a form letter ready to answer constituent queries about shark finning. That's good preparation. You're just lucky you have a Democrat senator that even bothered to send a form letter. A Republican like Slade Gorton would have asked you for directions to the I-district restaurant serving the soup to make sure he didn't miss out on any. > On Oct 19, 7:24 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you for directions to the I-district restaurant serving the soup to > make sure he didn't miss out on any. Shut the f.ck up. Geezus. Gorton answered a month ago. It's f.cking raging bigots like you that are f.cking this nation up. On Oct 19, 12:52 pm, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Oct 19, 7:24 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > It's f.cking raging bigots like you that are f.cking this nation up. Well, unless you tell us what Gorton said, Greg's speculation about his answer seems valid, especially since you didn't refute Greg's speculation even though you apparently have Gorton's response in hand. gc On Oct 19, 10:27 am, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 19, 12:52 pm, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > > Shut the f.ck up. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > his answer seems valid, especially since you didn't refute Greg's > speculation even though you apparently have Gorton's response in hand. Scott is bullshitting as usual. Somehow I doubt that "Cyanide Slade" would care about shark finning. Like most Republicans, he wasn't exactly known for his conservation ethic. He certainly never cared about endangering salmon, that's for sure. What's funny is that it was one of the most corrupt Republicans, along with the guy who really won the last election, that ever bothered to do anything legislatively about the issue: from https://www.nrdc.org/legislation/record/chap2.asp : "Shark Finning Prohibition Act" H.R. 3535, H.R. 5461, Rep. Randy Cunningham (R-Calif.); S. 2831, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) Status: H.R. 5461 enacted on 12/21/00 (Pub. L. No. 106-557); S. 2831 referred to the Senate Commerce Committee An Asian delicacy known as "shark fin soup" can cost $100 a bowl, fueling the practice of shark finning by fishermen in the central and western Pacific Ocean. In 1991, the percentage of sharks caught for finning was approximately 3 percent; by 1998, it had grown to 60 percent. After a shark's fin has been cut off, the animal is discarded into the ocean where it dies helplessly. Unregulated shark finning results in a poorly managed shark population. Most shark species grow slowly, experience late maturation, and produce small litters. Sen. John Kerry introduced a bill (S. 2831) that would have prohibited shark finning in the U.S., mandated fishing restrictions, banned importation of improperly caught shark, and initiated efforts to ban shark finning internationally. Sen. Kerry's bill was referred to the Senate Commerce Committee, amended, incorporated in a larger coastal package and passed the Senate. The House bill, H.R. 5461, prohibits the removal of fins of a shark, including the tail, and the discard of the carcass into the sea. While Rep. Cunningham's bill does not prohibit the subsequent sale of shark fins, it does discourage the waste of the other valuable components of sharks by mandating that no fin may be landed without its corresponding carcass. H.R. 5461 passed overwhelmingly in the House by a vote of 390-1 on June 6, 2000. H.R. 5461, a later version of H.R. 3535, passed by unanimous consent in the Senate on December 7, 2000, and was signed by President Clinton on December 21, 2000. While environmentalists believe that H.R. 5461 is an effective first step, it does not go far enough in encouraging sensible shark management. More information is needed on the status of different shark populations. Funding should be directed to the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) for more shark research, and a fishery management plan should be established. On Oct 19, 10:27 am, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 19, 12:52 pm, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > gc You too, cheapshot. Gortons was the same boilerplate BS canned letter. >On Oct 19, 7:24 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Amazing she already had a form letter ready to answer constituent >queries about shark finning. That's good preparation. From a politician? KY first, Preparation H after. >You're just lucky you have a Democrat senator that even bothered to >send a form letter. A Republican like Slade Gorton would have asked >you for directions to the I-district restaurant serving the soup to >make sure he didn't miss out on any.  Signaturedillon Flower Whiskers, RIP What a great leader On 19 Pa , 16:24, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Mr. Koplin , > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > For future correspondence with my office, please visit my website athttp://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.html Scotty, maybe you aren't completely lost case. It's really nice to see you cooperating with liberal senator who is also against guns. http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Maria_Cantwell_Gun_Control.htm Janusz On Oct 19, 11:39 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Scotty, maybe you aren't completely lost case. It's really nice to see > you cooperating with liberal senator who is also against guns.http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Maria_Cantwell_Gun_Control.htm > > Janusz Talk about thick. I am not cooperating, this was the biggest troll I have thrown in years, and with absolutely predictable results. I know who and what she is, and her gun control BS has the same chance of passing as everyone else's. On Oct 19, 4:19 pm, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 19, 11:39 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I know who and what she is, and her gun control BS has the same chance > of passing as everyone else's. So you are actually in favor of shark finning. Noted. gc > On Oct 19, 11:39 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I know who and what she is, and her gun control BS has the same chance > of passing as everyone else's. Write enough letters to enough congressmen and senators and you'll start to see that the answers you get are all the same. I commend you for taking the time to write your letter, and who knows, maybe your representative really feels this way. I do know that most representatives have their minds made up on most issues and rarely change regardless of how many letters are written. Someone here should write a letter claiming that their uncle is very ill, and the only thing that seems to make them feel better is shark fin soup. Let's see what kind of letter the representative writes back. Trust me. They are more concerned with your vote than with doing anything productive. I grew up in DC and spent a lot of time with senators and congressmen. They are all pretty sleazy. That said, kudos to you and at least you are trying to do something. Now all we need is a "shark" swimming the halls of congress with lots of money to hand out. "Hey, vote to outlaw shark finning and I'll send you to Bermuda for free." Unfortunately, that's the way it works. Sheldon On 19 Pa , 22:19, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 19, 11:39 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I am not cooperating, this was the biggest troll I have thrown in > years, and with absolutely predictable results. You are SO humble Janusz > I know who and what she is, and her gun control BS has the same chance > of passing as everyone else's. > On 19 Pa , 16:24, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Janusz You've got strange ideas of cooperation. Matthias > You've got strange ideas of cooperation. He has strange idea's of just about everything. This is where he should go to meet more moonbats like him; http://tinyurl.com/2a9oqa > > On 19 Pa , 16:24, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: <snip> > > Scotty, maybe you aren't completely lost case. It's really nice to see > > you cooperating with liberal senator who is also against guns. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You've got strange ideas of cooperation. That's Janusz for you. Dennis >>>On 19 Pa , 16:24, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dennis Let's recall that Janusz is the name of the two-faced God of divergence. Matthias > >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Matthias You have to refresh your knowledge of Roman mythology. Two faced god was Janus not Janusz. The difference is like Matthias and Matjes. Do you get it? Regarding cooperation you can check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation the definition fits perfectly and our dumb friend was so happy that he had to cry - I got a letter from liberal senator, I got a letter. Janusz >>>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > was Janus not Janusz. > The difference is like Matthias and Matjes. Do you get it? After my dive today, the smell is the same. > Regarding cooperation you can check > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation > the definition fits perfectly and our dumb friend was so happy that he > had to cry - I got a letter from liberal senator, I got a letter. You did not get the message. By far not. Do you polish always have to doubly catch up in dumbness? Sorry that I have stretch out so far for what could be simply called Katchinskyness ;-) Matthias > > You have to refresh your knowledge of Roman mythology. Two faced god > > was Janus not Janusz. > > The difference is like Matthias and Matjes. Do you get it? > After my dive today, the smell is the same. > > Regarding cooperation you can check > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation > > the definition fits perfectly and our dumb friend was so happy that he > > had to cry - I got a letter from liberal senator, I got a letter. > You did not get the message. By far not. > Do you polish always have to doubly catch up in dumbness? > Sorry that I have stretch out so far for what could be > simply called Katchinskyness ;-) You got love the irony. > > > You have to refresh your knowledge of Roman mythology. Two faced god > > > was Janus not Janusz. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You got love the irony. Just like your parents Janusz On Oct 22, 12:33 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > You got love the irony. > > Just like your parents My dad is dead, you worthless, ignorant, arrogant parasite. Even at that, he would never have suffered the likes of you either. Just be glad that Poland has nothing the ragheads want. They'd walk on you like an old rug. On Oct 23, 6:33 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 22, 12:33 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > They'd walk on you like an old rug. They make polish sausages. Is horsemeat halal? > On Oct 23, 6:33 am, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > They make polish sausages. Unfortunately for you they are made of pork and beef mix - not kosher. Is horsemeat halal? Still dating horses ;-) http://www.shariahprogram.ca/eat-halal-foods/fiqh-halal-haraam-animals.shtml Janusz On 23 Pa , 15:33, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 22, 12:33 am, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > My dad is dead, Which one? you worthless, ignorant, arrogant parasite. > Even at that, he would never have suffered the likes of you either. Of course he/they had to suffer you, what BTW was PITA. > Just be glad that Poland has nothing the ragheads want. Are you obsessed with Muslims? You show clear symptoms of Islamophobia. Don't worry it's treatable Janusz > They'd walk on you like an old rug. > Are you obsessed with Muslims? You show clear symptoms of > Islamophobia. Don't worry it's treatable Yep, all it will take is a few nukes in a certain sand pit that we like to call the "Middle East"... Signature"Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have" > Are you obsessed with Muslims? You show clear symptoms of > Islamophobia. Don't worry it's treatable Finally something we are close to agree on. May be we'd like to differ in the methods, though. Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Are you obsessed with Muslims? You show clear symptoms of > > Islamophobia. Don't worry it's treatable > > Finally something we are close to agree on. Wonderful. > May be we'd like to differ in the methods, though. I would suggest Cognitive Behavioral therapy with extended exposure treatment. What about you? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I would suggest Cognitive Behavioral therapy with extended exposure > treatment. What about you? I don't know wether this will prevent them from circling like sheep this black meteorite famous for meaning in their ancient pagan rites. So I would like to concentrate on a conversion of this stone in order to reach an effective level of entropy enlargement, basically following Einsteins finding e=mc². Remember Einstein was a Jew, so he should be well respected in this matter. Matthias Matthias Voss <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in news:ffnha0$fq5$02$1@news.t- online.com: >>>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > like sheep this black meteorite famous for meaning in their > ancient pagan rites. Isn't that the same kinda thing like coming together on a big square and waiting for a old guy to give his blessing from a balcony? <snip> > Matthias Voss <spammat.voss@gmx.de> wrote in news:ffnha0$fq5$02$1@news.t- > online.com: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Isn't that the same kinda thing like coming together on a big square and > waiting for a old guy to give his blessing from a balcony? Different mantras, if any. And they don't exclude tourists, and don't mutter secret curses in cryptic language. Ah wait, I forgot about latin.... but after all, it ain't that cryptic. Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > like sheep this black meteorite famous for meaning in their > ancient pagan rites. Matthias I was talking about Scotty's islamophobia, what is mental problem. > So I would like to concentrate on a conversion of this stone > in order to reach an effective level of entropy > enlargement, basically following Einsteins finding e=mc?. > Remember Einstein was a Jew, so he should be well respected > in this matter. Maybe you missed the fact that Einstein was pacifist for the most of his life and the only grudge he had was against Germany. Janusz >>Just be glad that Poland has nothing the ragheads want. > > Are you obsessed with Muslims? You show clear symptoms of > Islamophobia. Don't worry it's treatable > > Janusz But apparently your stupidity isn't Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ America: Ironically, the safest place to be anti-American. > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > After my dive today, the smell is the same. poor Matjes ;-)) > > Regarding cooperation you can check > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Sorry that I have stretch out so far for what could be > simply called Katchinskyness ;-) Are you from East Frisia? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Are you from East Frisia? If any, then North ~. But not quite. Matthias > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > If any, then North ~. But not quite. Are you sure? Janusz >>janus...@hotmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Janusz As sure as the Marathon Man. Matthias SignatureVK exquis. mod. Gesch.haus in ruh. Wohnl.3 WE, ehem. Praxis, ca. 350/1000 qm WF/Grdst. 19km nördl. Braunschweig , hochw. einger; Nah VW, Hafen; frei, 0160-4433698 o. 0911-7809081. Gut für Arzt/RA/Ing.büro, oder ruhiges Wohnen, Bilder vorh. On 21 Pa , 04:44, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid> wrote: > > janus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Dennis Dennis, as usual you are very "smart" Janusz |
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