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Lake Michigan Diving???

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feistydiver@gmail.com - 10 Oct 2007 23:24 GMT
Anyone been diving in Lake Michigan?  My son is stationed at the Great
Lakes, IL Naval Recruit Training Command and graduates from boot camp
in November.  I am thinking about heading up a few days early and
trying to get in a dive or two.  He is stationed at the far northeast
corner of Illinois.  I dive California (where I live) and I have a
drysuit, etc.  Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Tessa
Grumman-581 - 11 Oct 2007 00:09 GMT
> Anyone been diving in Lake Michigan?  My son is stationed at the Great
> Lakes, IL Naval Recruit Training Command and graduates from boot camp
> in November.  I am thinking about heading up a few days early and
> trying to get in a dive or two.  He is stationed at the far northeast
> corner of Illinois.  I dive California (where I live) and I have a
> drysuit, etc.  Any information would be appreciated.

Yeah, some do... Probably MJB has the most dive time in the lake of
anyone we know... Quite an impressive amount of time there really...
Probably thousands of hours...

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John Hanson - 11 Oct 2007 02:54 GMT
>Anyone been diving in Lake Michigan?  My son is stationed at the Great
>Lakes, IL Naval Recruit Training Command and graduates from boot camp
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>
>Thanks,

Ever heard the term, "Gales of November"?  I doubt you'll find a
charter that will take you out to a wreck site that time of year but
don't let that stop you from trying.  If you do find a charter boat
that will take you out, let me know.  I might join you.
dazed and confuzzed - 11 Oct 2007 04:14 GMT
> Anyone been diving in Lake Michigan?  My son is stationed at the Great
> Lakes, IL Naval Recruit Training Command and graduates from boot camp
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>
> Tessa

cold, dark, choppy.

dive season ended in Sept.

You most likely won't find anyone to drive you to a dive site in Nov.

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ben bradlee - 11 Oct 2007 13:40 GMT
> Anyone been diving in Lake Michigan?  My son is stationed at the Great
> Lakes, IL Naval Recruit Training Command and graduates from boot camp
> in November.  I am thinking about heading up a few days early and
> trying to get in a dive or two.  He is stationed at the far northeast
> corner of Illinois.  I dive California (where I live) and I have a
> drysuit, etc.  Any information would be appreciated.

Google the area where you are staying for the availability of dive charters,
assuming you want to boat dive.  There are many options available.  Shore
diving is a bit more difficult.  You can contact local dive shops and ask
where they go.

The end of September I did four wreck dives in northern Lake Michigan.  The
water temperature ranged between 52 and 60 degrees, visibility was good, and
the charter was booked in advance.  A year or two ago I went out of
Milwaukee, Wisconsin.  Same general conditions and lots of wrecks to see.
Illinois divers routinely come north to Wisconsin or Michigan but there are
opportunities in Illinois as well.

Much depends on the weather.  Do not despair as there are wonderful diving
days in November, December, and even January in this part of the country.
Bring and use adequate insulation.  This time of year the heat is leaving
the water.  It will not stay 50+ degrees at 100+ feet deep.  Enjoy your trip
and have fun diving.
feistydiver@gmail.com - 11 Oct 2007 18:11 GMT
> <feistydi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> the water.  It will not stay 50+ degrees at 100+ feet deep.  Enjoy your trip
> and have fun diving.

Great, thank you.  I was starting to think that it wasn't going to be
possible. I have emailed a few LDS, still waiting to hear back from
them.  50 degrees is what I am used to here in CA, so hopefully I can
find a charter.  It looks like there is one dive shop that has booked
trips all through the month of October, so I have my fingers crossed
that I can get in one day of diving.  Thanks again for all the
information y'all.
Grumman-581 - 11 Oct 2007 22:09 GMT
> 50 degrees is what I am used to here in CA, so hopefully I can
> find a charter.

So, you're used to freezing your 'nads off... Just remember though, up
in the Chicago area, you don't make an "OK" sign by touching your hand
to the top of your head -- you flip 'em the bird and yell "Up
Yours!"... That's the Chicago way of saying "OK", "Hello", and a bunch
of other greetings... Kind of a multipurpose hand signal...

So, where is your son going after Great Lakes?  I was stationed on the
main base for ET "A" School around 1980-1981... Cold fuckin' winters
up there... Hell, even during the 'summer' (all 3 hours of it), the
water is still pretty fuckin' cold up there...

My old barracks...
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feistydiver@gmail.com - 12 Oct 2007 06:16 GMT
On Oct 11, 2:09 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-
gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:11:40 -0000, "feistydi...@gmail.com"
>
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> --
> "Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?"

Well, first of all...wrong body parts, I don't have nad's - LOL  I
will be freezing other things off I guess?

He is going through the Nuke program after he leaves the Recruit
Training Center in Great Lakes.  I guess he will go 2 years to school
in South Carolina and then 4 years on a ship or submarine.  He made it
into the nuclear power program, so he had to sign up for 6 years.
Smart kid, and mom gets to go diving in the Carolinas when
visiting ; )  I am trying to talk him into going to Hawaii, he is also
a diver, so that would be cool to get stationed somewhere that I can
visit and dive with him.

Cool photo, thanks.  I will remember your advice and make sure I
pronounce it correctly and use the "correct" signals.  I am hoping it
isn't going to be too much colder than CA?  I dive in 47-53 degree
water usually.  I still haven't heard back from the LDS yet, maybe
they are closed down.
Grumman-581 - 12 Oct 2007 08:18 GMT
> Well, first of all...wrong body parts, I don't have nad's - LOL  I
> will be freezing other things off I guess?

I stand corrected -- you'll be freezing your clit off...
<dirty-old-man-grin>

Reminds me of a rather cold day here in Houston a few years ago when I
was wording for NASA via one of the aerospace contractors... One of
the female engineers that was in my group came into my office one
morning and there was a couple of us male engineers in there working
on increasing our caffeine intake while talking about our project...
She's shivering when she get in and comments, "it's cold enough to
freeze my cajones off"... Well, me and one of the other engineers just
kind of looked at each other, wondering who was going to be the first
to say something... Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore and said,
"Uhhh... Tracey, unless you've got a surprise for us, I don't think
that would be physically possible for your anatomy"... It seems that
her husband always said that and she just repeated it without knowing
what "cajones" meant... Oh, we got a good laugh out of that one...
Let's just say that we never really let her live that one down...
Well, that one plus the time when she walked across 8 ft of freshly
poured concrete sidewalk without realizing that she had sunk down to
the top of her shoes with each step... What make that one funny was
that she had to walk right by the guy with the trowel that was
smoothing out the concrete at the time...

> He is going through the Nuke program after he leaves the Recruit
> Training Center in Great Lakes.  I guess he will go 2 years to school
> in South Carolina and then 4 years on a ship or submarine.

I had wondered where they moved the nuke program after they shut down
the Orlando facility...

> He made it into the nuclear power program, so he had to sign up
> for 6 years.

Technically, he's signed up for 4 years after he accepts his E4/PO3
upon successful completion of his "A" school... Which one is he going
with -- ET, EM, MM, or whatever rating they might have added these
days?  They have retired all the nuke cruisers, so his only choice
will be aircraft carriers or subs... Having served aboard a carrier
(CVN-68), I would suggest that he consider subs instead... The food is
a lot better since the cooks are not cooking for 6000 guys all at
once...

> Smart kid, and mom gets to go diving in the Carolinas when
> visiting ; )  I am trying to talk him into going to Hawaii, he is
> also a diver, so that would be cool to get stationed somewhere that
> I can visit and dive with him.

Well, back when they had the nuke school down in Orlando, it was even
better from a diving standpoint... These days, it's in Goose Creek,
IIRC...

> Cool photo, thanks.  I will remember your advice and make sure I
> pronounce it correctly and use the "correct" signals.  I am hoping it
> isn't going to be too much colder than CA?  I dive in 47-53 degree
> water usually.  I still haven't heard back from the LDS yet, maybe
> they are closed down.

Somewhere in my stack of negatives, I have some rather interesting
photos of various ice structures that were created when the waves from
Lake Michigan splashed across shore objects... I suspect they were
taken in December or January though...

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Greg Mossman - 12 Oct 2007 18:21 GMT
On Oct 11, 10:16 pm, "feistydi...@gmail.com" <feistydi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, first of all...wrong body parts, I don't have nad's - LOL  I
> will be freezing other things off I guess?

How do you have a kid if you don't have 'nads?  Adoption?
 
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