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Marcel Marceau dies

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dechucka - 23 Sep 2007 11:04 GMT
He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
silence in his memory
dazed and confuzzed - 23 Sep 2007 16:15 GMT
> He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
> silence in his memory

Reports are that he had no last words....

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chilly - 23 Sep 2007 20:56 GMT
> > He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
> > silence in his memory
> >
> Reports are that he had no last words....

He was a Holocaust survivor.
Conshelf - 23 Sep 2007 22:43 GMT
In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 02:56:02p, "chilly"
<slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:

> He was a Holocaust survivor.

Depends upon your definition, I guess.  If someone didn't go to the death
camps, is he anymore of a Holocaust survivor than any of the non-Jews who
didn't go?  I would think that the term should be reserved for those who
did go to the camps and managed to make it out alive.  His father did go
and did die in the camps from what I understand.
chilly - 24 Sep 2007 00:38 GMT
> In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 02:56:02p, "chilly"
> <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
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> did go to the camps and managed to make it out alive.  His father did go
> and did die in the camps from what I understand.

I'm only telling you what I heard on the radio report today.  If that info
was incorrect, sorry about that.
chilly - 24 Sep 2007 01:03 GMT
> > In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 02:56:02p, "chilly"
> > <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'm only telling you what I heard on the radio report today.  If that info
> was incorrect, sorry about that.

This is what the Washington Post had to say:

"At the outbreak of World War II, his father, a butcher, was arrested, sent
to the Auschwitz concentration camp and later executed by the Nazis. The
remaining family fled to Limoges. In 1944, Marceau changed his name and
became active in the French underground, altering identity cards, and,
masquerading as a Boy Scout director leading a hike in the Alps, he smuggled
hundreds of Jewish children into Switzerland. He later joined the French
Army and served during the Allied occupation of Germany."

Here is a website that talks specifically about Holocaust survivors:

http://www.holocaustsurvivors.org/survivors.php

And an American museum:

http://www.ushmm.org/remembrance/registry/

Looks like he might qualify.

There is a difference between a camp survivor and a holocaust survivor.
Conshelf - 24 Sep 2007 04:27 GMT
In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 07:03:12p, "chilly"
<slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:

> Looks like he might qualify.
>
> There is a difference between a camp survivor and a holocaust
> survivor.

Maybe I'm wrong.  It wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last.  
I still not sure that I agree with their definition of including basically
refugees in the group of "Holocaust Survivors".  They wouldn't be trying to
artificially inflate their numbers, would they?
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 04:33 GMT
> In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 07:03:12p, "chilly"
> <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
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> to
> artificially inflate their numbers, would they?

could be right!!!!!!!~!!  Those commies, Jews, muslims and blacks do that
type of thing,  bastards.

Although to be fair the Jews do seem to concentrate on Holocaust VICTIMS not
survivors. Some even acknowledge that not all victims were Jewish
Greg Mossman - 24 Sep 2007 04:35 GMT
> Maybe I'm wrong.  It wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last.  
> I still not sure that I agree with their definition of including basically
> refugees in the group of "Holocaust Survivors".  They wouldn't be trying to
> artificially inflate their numbers, would they?

God forbid someone would try to inflate the numbers and make it look
worse than a mere 6,000,000 Jews killed.  What, do they want sympathy
or something?
Conshelf - 24 Sep 2007 05:06 GMT
In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 10:35:23p, Greg Mossman
<mossman@qnet.com> wrote:

> God forbid someone would try to inflate the numbers and make it look
> worse than a mere 6,000,000 Jews killed.  What, do they want sympathy
> or something?

Agreed.  You would think that 6,000,000 would be a large enough number for
them.  I don't have an issue with them saying that the 6,000,000 killed are
Holocaust victims.  I don't have a problem with them saying that the ones
who survived the death camps be classified as Holocaust survivors.  I'm
just not so sure that claiming that someone who didn't like the current
political climate and decided to leave town should also be classified as a
Holocaust survivor.  Maybe "Holocaust refugee", but not "Holocaust
survivor".  It's just a semantics issue, I guess.  Uh, does that classify
as an inadvertant pun?
IntoGear - 24 Sep 2007 05:18 GMT
I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
his passing got to do with all these post here?

I've never heard of him before... and really not broken up over it.
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 05:26 GMT
>I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
> his passing got to do with all these post here?
>
> I've never heard of him before... and really not broken up over it.

you wouldn't of heard of him because he was a very quiet man

on the other hand you could be an ignorant prick with your head up your bum
Dennis (Icarus) - 24 Sep 2007 12:34 GMT
> >I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
> > his passing got to do with all these post here?
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>
> on the other hand you could be an ignorant prick with your head up your bum

Oh, chilly, here's another first punch thrown by, IMO, dechucka.

Dennis
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 23:29 GMT
>> >I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
>> > his passing got to do with all these post here?
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>
> Oh, chilly, here's another first punch thrown by, IMO, dechucka.

not really a punch more a slap around its head
Conshelf - 24 Sep 2007 08:32 GMT
In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 11:18:42p, IntoGear
<IntoGear@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
> his passing got to do with all these post here?
>
> I've never heard of him before... and really not broken up over it.

You probably haven't heard of him because you're a young kid.  Don't worry,
you'll grow out of it.

The reason there are all the posts about him here is that he's French and
we like to make fun of the French.  The fact that he is a mime just makes
it all the more fun to make fun of him.

"If a tree falls on a mime in the forest, does either make a sound?"
Dennis (Icarus) - 24 Sep 2007 12:38 GMT
> I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
> his passing got to do with all these post here?

Because the folks here want to talk about it.

If you've got something you want to talk about (diving or something
related), start a thread.
If its worthy, folks will reply and it'll be at least a couple of days
before it turns into politics or guns.
If not, they won't, and we'll continue discussing politics or guns (or
whatever else) in other threads.

Many of the regulars have been here for years. Some are friends and some
are, as they say in the Shire, bosom enemies.

> I've never heard of him before... and really not broken up over it.

Dennis
George Cathcart - 24 Sep 2007 14:53 GMT
> I have to ask... if he wasn't a diver or something related... whats
> his passing got to do with all these post here?
>
> I've never heard of him before... and really not broken up over it.

I've never heard of you before...and really not broken up over it.

gc
Dennis (Icarus) - 24 Sep 2007 12:33 GMT
> In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 10:35:23p, Greg Mossman
> <mossman@qnet.com> wrote:
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> survivor".  It's just a semantics issue, I guess.  Uh, does that classify
> as an inadvertant pun?

I think they left town, because f they didn't, then they'd be arrested and
shipped off to the camps.
Its a bit different than some Hollywood type wantong to move to Canada
because of Bush, or those claiming to leave the country of Clinton is
elected.

Dennis
chilly - 24 Sep 2007 04:42 GMT
> In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 07:03:12p, "chilly"
> <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> refugees in the group of "Holocaust Survivors".  They wouldn't be trying to
> artificially inflate their numbers, would they?

"They" who?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 Sep 2007 09:27 GMT
> In rec.scuba, on Sun 23 Sep 2007 02:56:02p, "chilly"
> <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> did go to the camps and managed to make it out alive.  His father did go
> and did die in the camps from what I understand.

 We could ask jAnus Jew-hater.

 He's an -expert- on the Holocaust.

 His definition, clearly stated, is that they were all "communist
collaborators", man, woman and child.

 And that they deserved what happened to them.
dechucka - 23 Sep 2007 23:02 GMT
"                                      "
Dan Bracuk - 23 Sep 2007 23:58 GMT
"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:"                                      "

Well said.  My compliments on an amusing post.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
-hh - 24 Sep 2007 01:42 GMT
> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
> resulting in:
>
> :"                                      "
>
> Well said.  My compliments on an amusing post.

I still recall also getting a chuckle out of his appearance in the Mel
Brooks feature, "Silent Movie" (1976):  Mel gave Marcel Marceau the
only spoken line in the entire movie.

-hh
chilly - 24 Sep 2007 01:49 GMT
> > "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
> > resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Brooks feature, "Silent Movie" (1976):  Mel gave Marcel Marceau the
> only spoken line in the entire movie.

:^)
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 02:16 GMT
>> "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
>> resulting in:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Brooks feature, "Silent Movie" (1976):  Mel gave Marcel Marceau the
> only spoken line in the entire movie.

yeah forgot about that. It was a classic "non" iirc

> -hh
nitespark - 23 Sep 2007 20:56 GMT
> He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
> silence in his memory

I'm speechless.
John Cassara - 24 Sep 2007 00:56 GMT
Was he a diver?

>> He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
>> silence in his memory
>
> I'm speechless.
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 01:02 GMT
> Was he a diver?

no but he could mime a great diva
Scott - 24 Sep 2007 03:01 GMT
> Was he a diver?

He didn't say.
GWB - 24 Sep 2007 03:39 GMT
Are they sure he's really dead?
dechucka - 24 Sep 2007 03:54 GMT
> Are they sure he's really dead?

of course

he's not saying anything
Dillon Pyron - 02 Oct 2007 22:32 GMT
>He went quietly at 84, nothing much else to say but I am having minutes
>silence in his memory

Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to have a moment of noise?

He was a master of a misunderstood art.
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