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Steve Kramer & Mexicans

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Bob - 15 Sep 2007 02:59 GMT
Say Hey:

Well over 12 million illegal Mexicans in the United States and Steve
Kramer can't even qualify for government social security pension
benefits when he reaches 62. Something incorrect with the whole system
somewhere.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
Chuck - 15 Sep 2007 03:32 GMT
Why are some people just dicks? <plunk>
> Say Hey:
>
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>
> 5555 Yee-Haw !!
wiseoldgentleman@gmail.com - 15 Sep 2007 06:52 GMT
> > Say Hey:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Say Hey Chuckie:

I really cannot answer your question. But perhaps the U.S.government
can. I may wish to add that a large percentage of those illegal
Mexicans are actually receiving welfare benefits, dental, medical,
housing for FREE and U.S. citizens such as Steve Kramer cannot even
receive any benefits. Guess some of us may not have planned their
journey through life very well.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
Chuck - 15 Sep 2007 14:09 GMT
My comment wasn't about the illegals.  It was about all the Kramer bashing
threads.  Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up the same old
garbage.
>> Why are some people just dicks? <plunk>"Bob" <justicefora...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> 5555 Yee-Haw !!
Takin & Kanoknuan - 15 Sep 2007 15:45 GMT
"Chuck" <kb9kfs@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> My comment wasn't about the illegals.  It was about all the Kramer bashing
> threads.  Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up the same old
> garbage.

**Maybe it is immature and idiotic, but it's also *GREAT* fun.... especially
when you get Kramer to dance for you!  :o)

--
"Being so thin, yet powerful, gives me lots of ideas for uses. I'm going to
fill my front pockets with them [magnets] and take a walk through the bar
district. Every bar girl with braces will be drawn right to my crotch
without my even having to flash a 100 baht note! By the time I pass three
bars I should have about 15-20 girl's faces pasted to the front of my pants.
What can my wife say? "It wasn't me, Dear. It was the magnets!"" - newsgroup
personality Steve 'Kombat' Kramer
Deckard - 16 Sep 2007 09:25 GMT
Newsreader.com = Takin Gthepiss

............ Bulshit from a poor Englishman in a wheelchair snipped

The ONLY IDIOT in this and other Usenet groups is YOU, poor sod in a
wheelchair.

Living permanently with the fear that someone might now your real
indentity
one day and pay you a visit.

How many times do you look over your shoulder in fear when the black
guy
with his baseball bat from the wellfare pushes you and your wheelchair
on
the fresh air?

Every single poster in the Usenet is fed up with your rantings (except
your
master Deckard).

GOD created you with such tiny brains that you fail to realize that.

Your only life consist of a computer screen and wating for the guy
from the
Wellfare to push you and your wheelchair into the fresh air every week
and
pound your a.s with a baseball bat.

You must have been some real bad creature in a previous life to end up
being
what you are now.

Even your mama and your dad denied your existence and declared at your
birth
that you are not a son of them.

Your next life wil be even worse ......... (if possible)

Now, start posting again 10+ posts like you did last week.
You are free to use any of your foregered ID"s as you are used to
already.

Don't be such a coward and show us that you can post again 10+ posts
in one
day, wheelchairman.

--

Takin Gthepiss:
"If you want to make fun of me, that's fine."

USENET:
Sure as hell we like to fun of you

********************************

Note: if you or others knows the coward Takin Gthepiss real identity
or his
real name, publish it here and saves us the money of a lawyer to do
that.

>From NtlWord.com (an ISP provider of Takin Gthepiss):

"If you feel that the incident you are reporting warrants involvement
of an
appropriate law enforcement body then you must report the incident
yourself.
We will then cooperate fully with them as is appropriate under United
Kingdom law."

"Takin Gthepiss" <takin gthepiss@stuck-in-a-wheelchair.org> spewed in
message news:46ebf000$0$27947$ed362ca5@nr2.newsreader.com...

> "Chuck" <kb9kfs@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> My comment wasn't about the illegals.  It was about all the Kramer
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> pants. What can my wife say? "It wasn't me, Dear. It was the magnets!"" -
> newsgroup personality Steve 'Kombat' Kramer
Takin & Kanoknuan - 16 Sep 2007 12:35 GMT
"Carse Hole" <trivino_abelardo@hotpoop.es> dribbled
>> "Chuck" <kb9kfs@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> My comment wasn't about the illegals.  It was about all the Kramer
>>> bashing threads.  Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up
>>> the
>>> same old garbage.

**Maybe it is immature and idiotic, but it's also *GREAT* fun.... especially
when you get a.sholes like Trivino Abelardo to dance for you!  :o)

For Trivino Abelardo - I want you to reply to this post with one of your
funny little 'Sue Chaisone' or 'Takin Gthepiss' posts. If you can't manage
one of those then I'm sure you'll think of another ID - BUT DON'T USE THE
TAKIN AND KANOKNUAN ID.

Thanks in advance mate for being such a sport/a.shole...   :-)

--
"I still make love to my wife every day (several times)." - Trivino Y Garcia
Abelardo

"And so do dozens of other men." - Takin Gthepiss      :-)

> Newsreader.com = Takin Gthepiss
>
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> We will then cooperate fully with them as is appropriate under United
> Kingdom law."
Takin Gthepiss - 17 Sep 2007 07:23 GMT
Newsreader.com = Takin Gthepiss

............ Bulshit from a poor Englishman in a wheelchair snipped

How about being a sport/a.shole and replying to this post with 10+ of
your funny little posts?

If you can't manage to write 10+ posts with your regular ID because
you are affraid to lose your Newsprovider again, I'm sure you will
able to forge a lot of ID's.
After all. you are known in the Usenet asTHE MASTER FORGER.

But dont use the ID's DECKARD,SUE CHAISONE or TAKIN GTHEPISS.

--

Takin Gthepiss:
"If you want to make fun of me, that's fine."

USENET:
Sure as hell we like to make fun of you

********************************

Note: if you or others knows the coward Takin Gthepiss real identity
or his
real name, publish it here and saves us the money of a lawyer to do
that.

>From NtlWord.com (an ISP provider of Takin Gthepiss):

"If you feel that the incident you are reporting warrants involvement
of an
appropriate law enforcement body then you must report the incident
yourself.
We will then cooperate fully with them as is appropriate under United
Kingdom law."
steve@seatraveler.com - 15 Sep 2007 17:39 GMT
> My comment wasn't about the illegals.

They know that, Chuck. But it's irrelevant to them.

> It was about all the Kramer bashing
> threads.  Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up the same old
> garbage.

Chuck, it's neither immature nor idiotic. It's neurotic. Big
difference.
This is the ONLY way these guys can get any attention. They don't care
if that attention is positive or negative, just so long as ANYONE
responds to their posts. Many people have them killfiled and never
even see what they write unless someone new to the groups includes
their posts in the reply.

Don't bother to read or reply to them. That's the best way to deal
with at least two of them for the moment.

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com
Nadia Aqui - 15 Sep 2007 21:55 GMT
> This is the ONLY way these guys can get any attention. They don't care
> if that attention is positive or negative, just so long as ANYONE
> responds to their posts. Many people have them killfiled and never
> even see what they write unless someone new to the groups includes
> their posts in the reply.

Sorry I through them a bone.  I haven't identified in particular who
they are.  But Christ they do make a big footprint!
Signature

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

LarbGai - 15 Sep 2007 23:23 GMT
> Sorry I through them a bone.  I haven't identified in particular who
> they are.  But Christ they do make a big footprint!

******Thats THREW them a bone son...............

signed

Bigfoot.
pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 03:01 GMT
> Sorry I through them a bone.  I haven't identified in particular who
> they are.  But Christ they do make a big footprint!

Say Hey Nada:

Watch your spellling or our self proclaimed internet english professor
(as he cares to call himself) Steve Kramer will be on you like stink
on you know what!

5555 Yee-Haw !!
LarbGai - 15 Sep 2007 23:21 GMT
On Sep 16, 4:39 am, "st...@seatraveler.com" <SteveKram...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Chuck, it's neither immature nor idiotic. It's neurotic. Big
> difference.
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>
> Steve Kramer

*******Hmmmmm Well it's a just that we're getting bored waiting for
the FBI, AFP, The Mayor of Tauranga with his deportation notices and
all the other threats you have made towards us come to fruition
Stevie.......
Meanwhile thanks for replying yet again, we know you never miss a post
and that you simply can't help yourself and not reply.

Thanks for dancing Pinkie.............................Once again.

*GRIN*
pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 02:55 GMT
On Sep 15, 11:39 pm, "st...@seatraveler.com" <SteveKram...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > My comment wasn't about the illegals.
>
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> "PhotoEnvisions" Photography
> Chiang Mai, Thailandhttp://www.photoenvisions.com

Say Hey Stevie:

I'll bet you 10,000 baht that out of ten (10) or twenty (20) bars that
you care to choose in Chiang Mai, that not one, NOT ONE has a barmaid
that is wearing braces on her teeth. I'll donate the winnings to a NGO
or government charity here in town. You can do the same.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 02:51 GMT
> My comment wasn't about the illegals.  It was about all the Kramer bashing
> threads.  Just seems immature and idiotic to keep dredging up the same old
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Say Hey Chuck:

You can be young only once. But immature forever.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
howardaslan@yahoo.com - 16 Sep 2007 08:24 GMT
On Sep 15, 1:51 pm, pinkieki...@pobox.com wrote:

> Say Hey Chuck:
>
> You can be young only once. But immature forever.
>
> 5555 Yee-Haw

You must be on some sort of mission to prove this to everyone.  It's
working.
Nadia Aqui - 15 Sep 2007 21:53 GMT
> I may wish to add that a large percentage of those illegal
> Mexicans are actually receiving welfare benefits,

Total bullshit, illegal immigrants don't qualify for TANF (temporary
assistance for needy families) previously AFDC, commonly puked up as
"welfare" in poltical tantrums.  They don't qualify, they don't get it.

> ...dental, medical, housing for FREE...

Didn't you leave out that they go to the front of the line at movie
theatres and get the first pick of pastry at the donut shop?

They aren't getting any of this stuff. That's simply a lie, though I
presume someone else made it up for you and you're simply repeating it,
as so many people who get their "opinions" from the radio do.

If not, please cite any documentation anywhere that indicates any such
percentage. No law accomodates these activitities certainly, only fraud
would provide it.  And such fraud as exists in this regard has no valid
citation of percentage that I have yet found, ("A guy I know" doesn't
count even if it's lords O'Reilly or Rush).  Only blabber hounds on the
internet and eye-clawing Repulikan radio make this stuff up.

Sheesh.  We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
now occupies that hallowed political landscape that once included
flag-buring as the most heinous crime in JesusLand.
Signature

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 02:58 GMT
> > I may wish to add that a large percentage of those illegal
> > Mexicans are actually receiving welfare benefits,
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> Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
> The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Say Hey Nada:

I know for sure that Steve Kramer isn't receiving any beneifts due to
the fact that he is not in the states.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
howardaslan@yahoo.com - 16 Sep 2007 08:32 GMT
On Sep 15, 1:58 pm, pinkieki...@pobox.com wrote:

> Say Hey Nada:
>
> I know for sure that Steve Kramer isn't receiving any beneifts due to
> the fact that he is not in the states.
>
> 5555 Yee-Haw !!-

WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
living proof!
Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
stop when a US citizen resides in another country?
Ang Moh - 16 Sep 2007 08:52 GMT
On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:

> WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
> living proof!
> Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
> living abraod? Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach
> Center in Manilla for needed hopspital care? Do you think benifits
> stop when a US citizen resides in another country?

Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...
LarbGai - 16 Sep 2007 10:19 GMT
> On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
> Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

*******Heh heh........ He's a goose alright.
pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 11:48 GMT
> On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > WE know for sure that a little stupidity goes a long way. You are
> > living proof!
> > Do you have any idea how many US ex-pats are receiving benifits while
> > living abraod?

I have no idea. But I would venture to say that there are many.

Are you even aware that there is a Veteran's Outreach Center in
Manilla for needed hopspital care?

Yes and also help from the VFW.

Do you think benifits stop when a US citizen resides in another
country?

Steve Kramer cannot legally claim benefits because he does not
qualify. Also he claims to be a Vietnam vet of which he is NOT.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
Chilla - 16 Sep 2007 12:21 GMT
> On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Stupidity? Do you have a spell-checker or you're full of it?
> Check all the words you so "gracefully" misused you plain idiot...

Huh, the spelling is all correct... what's your point?  Regards Charles
LarbGai - 16 Sep 2007 21:04 GMT
> > On Sep 16, 2:32 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Huh, the spelling is all correct... what's your point?  Regards Charles

*****Before you sound your horn Chuckie perhaps you should read
carefully......

*benifits ?
*abraod ?
*hopspital ?

You really made a goose of yourself there Chuckie old son........Yet
again.

*grin*
Chas - 16 Sep 2007 20:32 GMT
> Total bullshit, illegal immigrants don't qualify for TANF (temporary
> assistance for needy families) previously AFDC, commonly puked up as
> "welfare" in poltical tantrums.  They don't qualify, they don't get it.

Hogwash- in my city, every sort of government assistance is monopolized by
illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish, not
English. It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now comprise
the majority in my city.

> Sheesh.  We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
> would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
> now occupies that hallowed political landscape that once included
> flag-buring as the most heinous crime in JesusLand.

Illegal aliens, invading on behalf of some supposed Reconquista, are
probably the single most addressable problem for the US.
On my block, they can't even talk to one another- Mexico Northern, Mexico
Southern, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Salvador; some speak Spanish, some Nahuatl,
some in other dialects. They've formed gangs that fight amongst themselves
and prey on us- MS-13, Surenos, various drug cartels- and gangs from other
groups that fight all of them, and us, as well.
We've got to stanch this flow-
My solution is deport all of them after a month's work on the fence project-
finance it with fines for those who hired them.

Chas
Nadia Aqui - 17 Sep 2007 00:20 GMT
>> Total bullshit, illegal immigrants don't qualify for TANF (temporary
>> assistance for needy families) previously AFDC, commonly puked up as
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish, not
> English.

Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong. When a
person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify relative to
income, citizenship, size of family, etc. And they have to provie it to
government employees that have just about as rabid a group of talk-show
radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere. If they can't prove it--no aid.
I know this from the many lawyers I'm associated with that handle legal
aid for legal residents and so know the law very well.

What--did you think that Ted Kennedy was down there doing the
paperwork? All this horseshit about how illegals get free aid is just
total crock of sh.t and all the blowhard fascists that cite it now they
are repeating what some other person told them: a lie.

> It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
> expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now comprise
> the majority in my city.

Neither group gets TANF except by fraud. The percentage of which is
apparently very minor indeed, or you would hear fascist radio quoting
that percentage endlessly.

>> Sheesh.  We have real problems in the US, I can't believe so many folks
>> would rather attend to these lie-infused "talking points" instead. This
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Illegal aliens, invading on behalf of some supposed Reconquista, are
> probably the single most addressable problem for the US.

Zzzzzz. What problem?  Cheap hotel rooms?  Cheap packaged chicken?
Cheap strawberries?

> On my block, they can't even talk to one another- Mexico Northern, Mexico
> Southern, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Salvador; some speak Spanish, some Nahuatl,
> some in other dialects.

So the big problem is that illegals can't talk to one another? That is
a sad sad state of affairs.

> They've formed gangs that fight amongst themselves
> and prey on us- MS-13, Surenos, various drug cartels- and gangs from other
> groups that fight all of them, and us, as well.

Ah, so the problem is illegal immigrant gang crime?  Oh that's a big
one. Me, I'll guess that illegal immigrants contribute more than about
5% to over all street crime. Proove me wrong a cite a stat. And using
your guesses, they're killing and ripping off one another.

Ooo--here's one: Have you heard that they use a drop of American baby's
blood in every matzo ball--er make that tamale--that they eat!  Scary!

> We've got to stanch this flow-
> My solution is deport all of them after a month's work on the fence project-
> finance it with fines for those who hired them.

Perhaps you've forgotten that our government is populated by people who
are on the payroll of "those who hired them" too. And they consider
manufacturing and agra-business a lot more important than than
radio-listeners. Besides which they WANT us to have our panties in a
bunch over illegal immigration, that keeps us occupied while they strip
off the light-fixtures and sell them to China.

In any case, any money we might piss down another rathole is tied up in
Iraq fighting the other boogey man.

While you're angishing over that, please note that China has taken over
the world.
Signature

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Chas - 17 Sep 2007 02:44 GMT
>> Hogwash- in my city, every sort of government assistance is monopolized
>> by
>> illegal immigrants, to the place that the default language is Spanish,
>> not
>> English.
> Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong.

*My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
around me.

>......When a person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify
>relative to income, citizenship, size of family, etc.

Nope- only a bill from utilities to show their residence, for book-keeping
purposes. The use is so heavy, that the *default* language for aid-delivery
agencies is *spanish*.

>.....And they have to provie it to government employees that have just
>about as rabid a group of talk-show radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere.

Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

>.....If they can't prove it--no aid. I know this from the many lawyers I'm
>associated with that handle legal aid for legal residents and so know the
>law very well.

Oh crap- lies from lieyers. The selfsame profession will present
'immigration lawyers' that will tell you just the opposite, and the guy on
the street another thing again.
Documentation is *easy*- I'd bet I can get false documentation in no more
than 24 hrs to make the initial contact- starting from zero.

> What--did you think that Ted Kennedy was down there doing the paperwork?
> All this horseshit about how illegals get free aid is just total crock of
> sh.t and all the blowhard fascists that cite it now they are repeating
> what some other person told them: a lie.

Nope. I'm none of those things, and live in the middle of illegal aliens-
from all over Mexico, Central America and to some extent, from further down
the SAmerican continent.
Our aid-services are *clogged* past all planning; our schools are clogged;
our emergency services are clogged; our response services are clogged-
illegal aliens are a drain and a constant source of trouble here. Many of
the young men are crooks; sneak thieves, car thieves, extortion gangs, drug
smugglers/dealers.
We've got to secure our borders-
Perhaps take Mexico itself as a model of immigration laws- and their
treatment of Southerners as the standard for our enforcement.
D'ya think?

Chas

>> It's been a source of fights between the black Katrina refugees who
>> expect welfare, and the Latinos of various nationalities that now
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> While you're angishing over that, please note that China has taken over
> the world.
LarbGai - 17 Sep 2007 05:30 GMT
We've got to secure our borders-
Chas

******Could'nt agree more Chuck.......Letting idiots like you out into
the real world is asking for trouble......

btw  How goes the spelling lessons??????
Nadia Aqui - 17 Sep 2007 16:21 GMT
>> Again, whichever radio opinion your citing is simply wrong.
>
> *My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
> need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
> around me.

Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your
subjective assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your
vantage point perfectly.

>> ......When a person applies for aid they have to prove they qualify
>> relative to income, citizenship, size of family, etc.
>
> Nope- only a bill from utilities to show their residence, for book-keeping
> purposes. The use is so heavy, that the *default* language for aid-delivery
> agencies is *spanish*.

You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get
you close to receiving TANF.  Language is a completely different
xenophobic aspect. So far we don't base our laws on ability to speak
English.  Yet.

>> .....And they have to provie it to government employees that have just
>> about as rabid a group of talk-show radio-loyalists as you'd find anywhere.
>
> Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
> needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
> their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.

Okay, you're just making stuff up now.  And not even winging it very well.
Signature

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Chas - 17 Sep 2007 17:54 GMT
>> *My* block, my neighborhood, my schools, my healthcare agencies- I don't
>> need to listen to a radio to see the effects of illegal immigration all
>> around me.
> Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your subjective
> assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your vantage point
> perfectly.

Nope; my report matches those from all over the country.
Entry into my country is not a right.
At best, it's a privilege extended to lawful applicants who qualify.
Mexicans, nor anyone else, can just get tired of where they live, and come
live in my house; use my utilities, eat at my table, use my charities, enjoy
the protections of my form of government without any comittment to our
system.

> You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get you
> close to receiving TANF.

Don't restrict it to one program, or only Federal programs, or some other
artificial parameter.
The reality is that service/welfare programs are targeted at
people-at-risk/in need, and entrance is easy enough that they're swamped by
illegal aliens.

>....Language is a completely different xenophobic aspect. So far we don't
>base our laws on ability to speak English.  Yet.

We should.
Mexico doesn't do business in other languages besides Mexican- why should
we?
We have legal immigrants from over a hundred countries- all speaking
different languages/dialects. We require them to learn English in order to
qualify for citizenship. Why treat illegal aliens any differently?
No reason to toady to mexicans' reluctance to learn English- particularly
when it's already accompanied by a predeliction to criminality- as evinced
by their illegal entry into the country in the first place.
They're refugees from *nothing*; no war, no ethnic cleansing, no religious
persecution- they just don't like living with a bunch of other mexicans.

>> Nope- it's in the charter of such agencies that they deliver help to the
>> needy and documentation is not necessary- because lots of people can lose
>> their documents and still qualify for the aid, maybe even moreso.
> Okay, you're just making stuff up now.  And not even winging it very well.

Not at all-
why don't you educate yourself in the basic information surrounding the
questions, and get back to me-

Chas
Nadia Aqui - 17 Sep 2007 23:33 GMT
> "Okie dokie. You're projecting the state of the nation by your subjective
>> assessment of your own neightborhood. I understand your vantage point
>> perfectly.

I think I'll join you.

> Nope; my report matches those from all over the country.

I just read a report that said those reports were lies and misinformation too.

> Entry into my country is not a right.

Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday!  Those durn Liberals done
it to us again!  Free money for illegals.  Dang!

> At best, it's a privilege extended to lawful applicants who qualify.
> Mexicans, nor anyone else, can just get tired of where they live, and come
> live in my house; use my utilities, eat at my table, use my charities, enjoy
> the protections of my form of government without any comittment to our
> system.

Not only that you have to move out of your own house, and pull a wagon
like a mule.  And your children too, and any non-illegal immigrant in
your neighborhood. They signed the papers yesterday on all that too
them dang Liberals!

>> You know nothing about the process. Showing a utility bill won't get you
>> close to receiving TANF.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> people-at-risk/in need, and entrance is easy enough that they're swamped by
> illegal aliens.

I'm reading the law right here: Negros, people who speak Spanish, gay
people and drug dealers can get these benefits for the rest of their
life even if they are already rich! And regular citizens have to eat
poop right from a dog's butt. It says ir right here in the "Liberal
Welfare Dream Law of 2006". Dang that's a hell of a deal!  Can't
something be done to stop it? I'm writing to Rev. Lou Dobbs.  He's mad
about this business of eating dog poop too.  It's just not right!

>> ....Language is a completely different xenophobic aspect. So far we don't
>> base our laws on ability to speak English.  Yet.
>
> We should.

Read the new law!  We do!  English-speaking people have to dance in
their undies!

> Mexico doesn't do business in other languages besides Mexican- why should
> we?

Because we like money?  Okay, I'll guess: we need to comply with the
demands of the country that OWNS our a.s: China.  Remember when they
took sole possession?  You were out carping about cheap strawberries
and Jose not being able to quote Shakespeare.

> We have legal immigrants from over a hundred countries- all speaking
> different languages/dialects. We require them to learn English in order to
> qualify for citizenship. Why treat illegal aliens any differently?

I'll guess: because they are illegal aliens, they don't see any point
in respecting the "language rule" of citizenship for which they don't
qualify?

> No reason to toady to mexicans' reluctance to learn English- particularly
> when it's already accompanied by a predeliction to criminality- as evinced
> by their illegal entry into the country in the first place.

Sure, not when you can toady to radio blabber and agit-prop writers.

> They're refugees from *nothing*; no war, no ethnic cleansing, no religious
> persecution- they just don't like living with a bunch of other mexicans.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> why don't you educate yourself in the basic information surrounding the
> questions, and get back to me-

I just got back to you, and did the best to make up the same kind of
blabber you do.  How'd I do?  You'll be quoting me tomorrow.

Why don't you un-educate yourself by turning off the radio?  Use your
misguided anger and focus just a little bit of it on the people that
are really stinking your life up.  Don't you ever wonder how folks
manage to make everybody belive that the poorest, least-educated, and
(critical!) non-voting groups of people are always the ones causing all
the problems?  Sure does make it easy for the wealthy ones, the
government, and big business to have you do all their work for them.

Seems like the ones with money, education and voting habits would be
able to build a wall against these losers.  But amazingly, in your
little vapor world, it doesn't work that way. Through most of Americans
history it's been the poorest, hungriest and most enfranchised that
cause all the woes. Go figure.  Some people will believe anything they
read.  About 75% of them, apparently.

Meanwhile they strip off the light fixtures and hook you up to the cart
to pull the load for them.

You can have the last lie in this faux discussion.
Signature

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Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Chas - 18 Sep 2007 00:12 GMT
> Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday!  Those durn Liberals done it
> to us again!  Free money for illegals.  Dang!

Gee; I'm sorry.
I didn't realize you were crazy.
nevermind.

Chas
LarbGai - 18 Sep 2007 02:28 GMT
> > Yes it is, they signed the papers yesterday!  Those durn Liberals done it
> > to us again!  Free money for illegals.  Dang!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Chas

*******CRAZY?????? He made mincemeat out of you Chuckie.......

Perhaps you should get Kramer to help you out...............Redneck.
howardaslan@yahoo.com - 16 Sep 2007 08:22 GMT
On Sep 14, 5:52 pm, wiseoldgentle...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Why are some people just dicks?

> > > Say Hey:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I really cannot answer your question.

That's because you are a dick.

> U.S. citizens such as Steve Kramer cannot even
> receive any benefits.

And YOU konw this how?   Do you even know Steve Kramer?
pinkiekinky@pobox.com - 16 Sep 2007 11:32 GMT
On Sep 16, 2:22 pm, howardas...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sep 14, 5:52 pm, wiseoldgentle...@gmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Say Hey:

Do I know Steve Kramer? Well only met him once and that was on January
8, 2004 at the Chang Puak Police  in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Seems Steve
Kramer went and got himself into a bit of trouble and the Royal Thai
Police required some clarifiction from me as to his meddling in the
affiars of a Thai owned and operated business.

5555 Yee-Haw !!
Chilla - 16 Sep 2007 12:24 GMT
>>Say Hey Chuckie:
>>I really cannot answer your question.
>
> That's because you are a dick.

Seconded, so it must be true :-D
 
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