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Scuba Forum / General / July 2007Labor Day Weekend
We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm enough to not require a chain saw? Curtis > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm > enough to not require a chain saw? > > Curtis Possibly depending specific dates and locations. Andy > Possibly depending specific dates and locations. Specifically for me, Labor Day Weekend., 1,2, & 3 September '07 I'd be game for Martha's, the one in N GA, or maybe AL, suggestions? Curtis >>Possibly depending specific dates and locations. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Curtis Couple of those days may be good for me. Doubt I can make all three. I have absolutely GOT to be back by Sept 4. Not familiar with Martha's or N Ga. or Alabama. Andy > Couple of those days may be good for me. Doubt I can make all three. I > have absolutely GOT to be back by Sept 4. > > Not familiar with Martha's or N Ga. or Alabama. Figure the same, but I'll have a longer drive. Making a search , found 5 interesting so far, will post some links when done. Curtis > Making a search , found 5 interesting so far, will post some links when > done. Dive Haven Georgia Atlanta Area Quarry Scuba Diving Certification and Instruction White Georgia www.divehavenga.com Dive Land Park and Scuba Supply - Best Quarry diving in Alabama http://www.divealabama.com/ Dedicated to your scuba diving experience Martha's Quarry :: The Mid-South's Diving Destination Mermet Springs, Ill. - Scuba Diving Magazine Think I like the one in NC. Anyone know of others? Curtis >> Making a search , found 5 interesting so far, will post some links >> when done. Oops, try again. http://www.divehavenga.com/ http://www.fantasylakescubapark.com/home01.htm http://www.headsouth.com/diveland/ http://www.divealabama.com/ http://www.marthasquarry.com/ http://www.scubadiving.com/mermet_springs > Think I like the one in NC. > > Anyone know of others? > > Curtis >>> Making a search , found 5 interesting so far, will post some links >>>when done. > http://www.fantasylakescubapark.com/home01.htm >> Think I like the one in NC. >> >> Anyone know of others? Even though of all the ones you listed, this one is closest for me, if this is where everone decides to go, I will probably NOT attend. The viz at this place is notoriously piss poor. Last time I was there, it was about 2-3 ft. Although this is where I got my basic OW cert, the LDS no longer uses Fantasy Lake. Maybe they have cleared up the water in the past few years....I dunno. To give you a point of reference, it is located just outside Raleigh NC. I know we have one rec.scuban in that area that can probably give us a more up to date condition report. Andy > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm > enough to not require a chain saw? Sure - I live in North Alabama. Blue Water in Birmingham, AL Diveland in Glencoe, AL Martha's in Lebanon, TN I'd be willing to provide lodging. Each quarry's about 2 hours from where I live. Dennis > Sure - > I live in North Alabama. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I > live. somehow missed your post, found on a reset. Alabama's are about 140-160 miles closer than Tennessee. Which do you prefer to dive at, and why? Curtis > > Sure - > > I live in North Alabama. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Which do you prefer to dive at, and why? Generally we dive at Blue Water. It has a shop on site airfills & nitrox available. It also has facilities. Martha's is nice also, has a max depth of 45-50'. I've nothing agaisnt Diveland - when the local shop is setting up class trips we usually just go to one of those two. Dennis > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in > getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is > warm enough to not require a chain saw? As much as I would like to be there to suck your big gas man dick, I'm afraid that I have other plans for that weekend. It seems that there is a new glory hole opening up around here and I'm going to pick up a young boy from one of the local schools and go up there. Thanks for the offer though. Love and kisses, Carl Some of us are a bit North of you. How about Dutch Springs, in Pa.? http://www.dutchsprings.com/ > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm > enough to not require a chain saw? > > Curtis > Some of us are a bit North of you. How about Dutch Springs, in Pa.? > > http://www.dutchsprings.com/ 1,055 miles, and way north of the MD line. Looking at 550 to 600 max, even Mermet is out of range at 900. Curtis > > Some of us are a bit North of you. How about Dutch Springs, in Pa.? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Looking at 550 to 600 max, even Mermet is out of range at 900. I guess a drift dive on the Rhine is out then too.... -hh > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm > enough to not require a chain saw? I'm looking to spear fish that weekend. Walleye are calling me for an adventure in the Missouri River. >> We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting >> together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm >> enough to not require a chain saw? > > I'm looking to spear fish that weekend. Walleye are calling me for an > adventure in the Missouri River. By telephone or radio? >>> We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting >>> together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > By telephone or radio? Telepathy. They know my abilities and just want to have a little fun with a human before the long winter. Those committing suicide will fin into the launched spear tip committing hara-kiri (seppuku) so as not to endure the long winter of northern hemisphere darkness. It's really assisted-seppuku being the finned swimmers lack the where with all to do the job themselves. It's so much kinder than the hook. That's the way I interpret their thoughts anyway. This telepathy interpretation thing is still in its infancy and precise language from fish to human is being developed. >>>> We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting >>>> together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > still in its infancy and precise language from fish to human is being > developed. As I was saying...  Signature"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com >>>>> We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in >>>>> getting [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > As I was saying... Nice to see that Dan and John think you're such a swell guy. They seem to have forgotten to comment here. Signature"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com > Nice to see that Dan and John think you're such a swell guy. > > They seem to have forgotten to comment here. Who are you talking about? > > Nice to see that Dan and John think you're such a swell guy. > > > They seem to have forgotten to comment here. > > Who are you talking about? I was kinda wondering about that too, but figgered that it must be directed at Dan and me. JF >> Nice to see that Dan and John think you're such a swell guy. >> >> They seem to have forgotten to comment here. > > Who are you talking about? KennyBennyBradlyJohnson, the Fish Whisperer. Signature"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com On Jul 23, 9:42 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > >> <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message > >>news:pan.2007.07.23.15.34.36.463051@all.please.net... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > They seem to have forgotten to comment here. What's to say beyond what we said? JF > On Jul 23, 9:42 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > What's to say beyond what we said? Absolutely nothing, especially in your case. Signature"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com >> We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting >> together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is >> warm enough to not require a chain saw? > > I'm looking to spear fish that weekend. Walleye are calling me for an > adventure in the Missouri River. Yeah, but, everyone here thinks you're a weirdo. Signature"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : Yeah, but, everyone here thinks you're a weirdo. I don't. Dan Bracuk Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do. > "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: > > : Yeah, but, everyone here thinks you're a weirdo. > > I don't. Nor I, but we're Canucks. JF >>"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> >>pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > JF would not that be 'CANUTS' "Joe English" wrote in Ah, you're reading the thread.......was waiting to see if you and D&C would chime in somewhere. > "Joe English" wrote in > > Ah, you're reading the thread.......was waiting to see if you and D&C > would chime in somewhere. all I can commit to is a "maybe" at this point. But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ > But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. WTF's up with that? It ain't that hard. Get your butt to S. Florida and dive with us. It ain't like we're hard to find or anything. >>But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. > > WTF's up with that? It ain't that hard. Get your butt to S. Florida and dive > with us. It ain't like we're hard to find or anything. Business is HOPPING. I might even make up for the money I lost last year and the year before.... Of course, it means that I have to have enough staff to be able to go anywhere. The three trips I have tried to do in Lake Michigan have been canceled due to weather. Hell, I'm behind on my boat project as well. I'm working 70 hour weeks and i can't seem to get caught up. I'd bitch, but I am finally making some money...... Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ > I'm working 70 hour weeks and i can't seem to get caught up. > I'd bitch, but I am finally making some money...... Understood. Just don't forget that the idea is to work to live, not live to work. Lee >>I'm working 70 hour weeks and i can't seem to get caught up. >>I'd bitch, but I am finally making some money...... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lee Christ, for what I made last two years, I'd quit. But I can't..... Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ > >>But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > I'd bitch, but I am finally making some money...... Congrats on your success :) Dennis >>>>But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Dennis It helps to keep me afloat after 2 years losing money... Say what you want, but AFAICT, the economy is doing VERY well this year. People are spending money on leisure travel, which was lacking the last two years. Must be the new Democratic Congress...... Signature“TANSTAAFL” ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>But I'd love to. I haven't been wet yet this year. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > It helps to keep me afloat after 2 years losing money... Indeed. > Say what you want, but AFAICT, the economy is doing VERY well this year. > People are spending money on leisure travel, which was lacking the last > two years. > > Must be the new Democratic Congress...... Spend it now, for the tax man cometh. No point in doing something foolish like saving it now...... ;-) Dennis > >>"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> > >>pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > would not that be 'CANUTS'- Not on northern keyboards. JF > I'm looking to spear fish that weekend. Walleye are calling me for an > adventure in the Missouri River. Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? > Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? Good question... The Mississippi River sure is... The Missouri feeds into the Mississippi, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was also... Probably depends upon how rocky the terrain is up in that part of the country... Perhaps one of the Yankees from up there would enlighten us on this geological piece of trivia? > > Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > country... Perhaps one of the Yankees from up there would enlighten us > on this geological piece of trivia? "Big Muddy"? >>>Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "Big Muddy"? Big Buddy is a bit southwest of st louis and not the same river. the big muddy actually has parts nice for floating >>Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > country... Perhaps one of the Yankees from up there would enlighten us > on this geological piece of trivia? I don't think you would even consider diving the Missouri or Mississippi. Very muddy, yucky. the terrain I see is not rocky either sand or mud banks > I don't think you would even consider diving the Missouri or > Mississippi. Very muddy, yucky. the terrain I see is not > rocky either sand or mud banks When I was working on the Navy contract over in New Orleans, one of the guys in my apartment complex was a commercial diver who dove in the Mississippi to work on ships / rigs / whatever... Supposedly the river is up to 300 ft deep there in New Orleans... Of course, the visibility is such that if you're lucky, you can see your mask... >> I don't think you would even consider diving the Missouri or >> Mississippi. Very muddy, yucky. the terrain I see is not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >river is up to 300 ft deep there in New Orleans... Of course, the >visibility is such that if you're lucky, you can see your mask... 300 ft.? Wow. Where in New Orleans? > >> I don't think you would even consider diving the Missouri or > >> Mississippi. Very muddy, yucky. the terrain I see is not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 300 ft.? Wow. Where in New Orleans? No f.cking way. > No f.cking way. Doing a quick web search brought this up: http://www.nps.gov/archive/miss/features/factoids/ According to it, it's 200 ft... It's been a couple of years, so maybe I'm remembering what he said a bit wrong... Damn Alzheimer's Moment again... Still, 200 ft of mud would make for a really crappy dive... > 300 ft.? Wow. Where in New Orleans? Supposedly it was that deep at one of the bridges... I was working at the Lockheed facility over by UNO, right on the south side of Lake Pontchartrain... After I bought a house over in Slidell by the airport, I could fly to work since Lakefront airport was *very* close to my office... On Jul 26, 4:41 am, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:33:04 +0200 (CEST), Newbie Diver > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > country... Perhaps one of the Yankees from up there would enlighten us > on this geological piece of trivia? Ah, a topic I do know something about, as I have traveled the entire length of the Missouri, from its convergence with the Mississippi to its beginning where the Madison, Gallatin and Jefferson Rivers converge in Montana, and even to its trickling headwaters on the Continental Divide. So what part of the river are you asking about. In its lower stretches, it's almost muddy enough to walk across. It drains one sixth of the land mass of the U.S., which is a lot of farms and prairie, so it picks up plenty of silty stuff on its journey. At the upper end, though, it's gin clear and a pretty decent trout stream, in spite of its size. And it's not always shallow in its course through Montana, but it fairly swift. You might be able to do a pretty interesting drift dive up around Great Falls or Fort Benton. Problem is access points and distance between them. I'm not recommending it. :). gc > Isn't the Missouri a fairly muddy river? George provided good information. Any river is moving water and moving water has suspended sediment. Diving above a dam where the water is trapped means you are diving in a lake, effectively. (Lake Oahe is such a lake on the Missouri River.) Visibility varies with the amount of runoff in the area and from what has been pushed into the lake from upstream. Spearfishing is short range shooting. You don't need great visibility to spearfish but it's nice when visibility is good because it makes the dive more fun. In numerous dives in the Missouri River I recall only once when the water was really murky. Spearfishing is a solo sport. You enter by yourself and spread out along the river with ample distance to assure you are alone. You have the gun, a dive flag, a stringer, and whatever dive gear you choose. The sought after fish is the Walleye, but you can harvest whatever is legal. After you shoot a limit, get cold, or run out of air you surface and wait by the dive flag or on shore until the boat returns to get you. Getting to shore in the Missouri is sometimes a challenge because of the mud. I probably still have mud on my gear from a year ago after going to shore for a necessity. Spearfishing is one of the greatest adventures you will ever have that involves diving when visibility is not that great. I'm not too sure but great visibility may actually worsen the hunt. Fish often come to see what you are doing and that inquisitiveness brings them close enough for a shot. If they can see you from fifty feet away, you'll never get a shot. > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting >together at one of the Southern quarries this year, when the water is warm >enough to not require a chain saw? Oh Hell Curtis, flights from MCO to MSP are only about $200. Come up here and I'll take you to Lake Superior for some wreck diving and then off to some northern quarries. > We've talked about it in past years, is there any > interest in getting together at one of the Southern > quarries this year, when the water is warm enough > to not require a chain saw? There's quarries in Monroe County? Seriously though, when you've got all the Florida springs at your doorstep, why would you want to travel up north of I-10 to Yankee Land? > We've talked about it in past years, is there any interest in getting > together at one of the Southern quarries this year? Only a couple interested? Going diving for the weekend, will decide myself based on any changes in response. Play nice. Curtis |
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