On Jul 16, 8:03 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 14, 2:15 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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> Did you have any examples of these hacked signatures, or just more sliding
> hyperbole?
> On Jul 16, 8:03 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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> it? If you're talking about lifting out of context, the one on this
> post of yours will do nicely.
It's sad when you get so old you can't remember what you write from day to
day.
Maybe if you had responded to it the first time, or the first dozen times,
it was posted, you wouldn't have to strain hemoroids to get out the
inevitably failing spin attempt.
>Have a great day.
I always do.
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From: JOF <jofran...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:34:04 -0000
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On Jun 21, 12:31 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
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> "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jun 20, 3:29 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > "JOF" <jofran...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1182360819.452423.261250@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > <snip>
> > > > > This "middle ground" that you advocate, requires that someone
> quantify
> > > > > your "responsible person keeping a reasonable number of reasonable
> > > weapons
> > > > > for reasonable and legal uses."
> > > > And the alternative that you prefer is no controls on any weapons at
> > > > all, so any whackjob can have all the weapons he thinks he needs to
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> > > > have to try so hard to defend your right to have guns. They're what
> > > > you're really defending. That's too bad, for you.
> > > So you finally agree that Popeye quoted you accurately?
> > If you'll agree that it proves he's a hypocrite when he gripes about
> > snipping posts. There remains the little problem of rhetorical
> > statements. Read this as a rhetorical statement.
> Go ahead & restate what you think his gripe is regards to snippage.
> > "And the alternative that you prefer is no controls on any weapons at
> > all, so any whackjob can have all the weapons he thinks he needs to
> > satisfy all his inadequacy issues."
> But the you in that statement refers to Popeye, which is inaccurate.
> Again, it is the writer's job to be clear. If you (JOF) are not referring
> to
> Popeye, then you should use a different pronoun.
> Perhaps if you'd spent more time on English instead of Latin.....?
> > Are you positive it's a lie or might it be that someone misinterpreted
> > my meaning? It's easy to do without body language, facial expression,
> > etc. That's the point I tried to make earlier but to no avail.
> Which is why, as I said, it is the writer's job to be aware of these
> things
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> At first I was correcting what I thought was your belief about Popeye's
> position on gun control.
> > > Finally?
> > > You're sure about this?
> > > You do agree to having written that?
> > Sure. I just saw the proof. I had to go find it for you, along with
> > the rest of the stuff he snipped out. But see my comment above. Is
> > this another case of paradigm thinking?
> Not for me, I remember it. Good thing you'v elearned how to search for
> things though.
> Congrats!
> I do hope that this does represent a paradigm shift for you.
> > > And do yo also remember where I have pointed out previously that your
> > > assessment of Popeye's position is incorrect?
> > > Even provided google references.
> > I remember you telling me I was wrong on lots of occasions. Do you
> > remember him complaining that snipped posts aren't proper, quite
> > recently in fact? Do we have a double standard in play here? 8)
> I do recall you've complained about "snipped context". :-)
Only when it's snippage that has quotes like "I don't agree." somehow
becoming "I agree." That's a more extreme example than we usually get
here. There's nothing wrong with losing extraneous stuff, but quoting
a paragraph, sentence, or words out of context when the context
defines the quote invalidates the cite. I'll give you a more
appropriate example. I might post something like "I hate guns being in
the hands of irresponsible individuals. I think there should be some
reasonable solution to control them and I support their confiscation
from owners who prove themselves to be irresponsible through their
actions." In rec.scuba that will likely become "I hate guns ... and I
support their confiscation" and become part of Popeye's epic sig.
JF

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"I wasn't going to get into any of this until later, but you asked
a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that
I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF
Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com
JOF - 17 Jul 2007 14:17 GMT
On Jul 17, 12:06 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 8:03 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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> actions." In rec.scuba that will likely become "I hate guns ... and I
> support their confiscation" and become part of Popeye's epic sig.
Maybe you should lay off the moonshine for a while. You're still
having reading comprehension problems, aren't you? Maybe old age sets
in at age 50 in your case?
JF
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 17 Jul 2007 14:46 GMT
> On Jul 17, 12:06 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
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> having reading comprehension problems, aren't you? Maybe old age sets
> in at age 50 in your case?
So you have no evidence, and never did.
Got it.
Just another round of Futile John slinging sh.t to see what will stick.

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a reasonable question. The problem for me in answering is that
I'm theorizing with more intuited logic than facts." -JOF
Popeye/ www.finalprotectivefire.com