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Greg Mossman - 03 Jul 2007 05:46 GMT
As Scott, the devoted patriot as always, will undoubtedly be flooding
the newsgroup with hundreds of offtopic threads in the next couple
days, I'll try to balance things out by posting yet another trip
report, and the second trip report on Cobalt Coast in as many weeks.

While at CC BTW, I coincidentally received an e-mail from one of the
many almost-ex-rec.scubans who rarely post nowadays due to the
hundreds of off-topic posts and general breakdown of order, who was
also very familiar with CC.  It's a popular place and for good reason.

To back up a bit, we flew Continental out of LAX, via IAH.  I was
intending on shooting a few pics with my new camera and housing, but
due to some confusion between my photo guy and Ikelight, first the
wrong synch cords arrived at his place when I went to pick up the
housing, and then the right synch cords arrived at his place when they
were supposed to be delivered directly to me.  We figured out that he
had the cords the day I was trying to leave for the airport.

Fortunately we were spending the night out at LAX on a park-and-fly
arrangement at a local hotel, so we really didn't have to get to the
hotel at any specific time before the flight as long as sleep wasn't
of the essence.  Apparently I miscommunicated that part about sleep to
Janna, so we left as our usual much-later-than-when-Greg-wanted-to-
leave time, the hitch this time being that we had to make a long
detour by my photo guy's place, which added another couple hours to
our drive.  The short of it is that I got my synch cords, but I didn't
get much sleep, as we checked in to the hotel at 10 pm, ate a late
dinner, and slept for a couple hours before waking up for the shuttle
to our 6 am flight.

The only nice thing about traveling that early is that LAX is nice at
quiet at 4:30 am.  That's about it.  Flight was uneventful, Houston
was a quick stop, and finally we were on the way to GC.  Arrived in
the late afternoon, were met by a blast of hot sticky air to welcome
us down the steps and across the tarmac, got a couple free carts for
all the luggage, breezed through customs/immigration, and were met by
Mr. Bush, the driver that Cobalt Coast uses.

Being met by a driver is always a nice change of pace.  My last two
times to Grand Cayman, we trudged our carts out of the terminal,
across the parking lot, and across the street to Andy's car rental, to
end up sitting on the wrong side, driving on the wrong side, and
frustrated.  This time, we were driven, in a nice air-conditioned
minibus, all the way to the little 18-room resort in Boatswain Bay,
north of Spanish Bay, in West Bay.  Basically it's the NW corner of
the horseshoe shaped island, far from Georgetown and the maddening
cruisecrowds, far from 7-Mile-Beach and the huge hotel complexes.

Our plan was to not drive, not even leave the hotel except to dive,
and the plan worked great.  Along with our classes and boat dives with
the onsite Divetech shop, we had booked a meal plan, which adds
lunches and dinners onto the already-included breakfasts.  We did have
a notion when we first arrived to make a stop at a convenience store
for drinkables, but even that seemed like too much complication and we
forgot about the idea.

No elevator in the place, so check-in lady hailed a waiter, and
between all of us, we were able to negotiate all the luggage up the
stairs to our room in one sweaty trip.  The doors electronically
unlocked with a nifty little plug-type key that they warned us "didn't
swim well" as if the exposed contacts weren't a clear-enough indicator
of that.

The room was actually a one-bedroom suite, an upgrade that cost us an
entire $6/night.  The central a/c was a bit sluggish, but by the time
it kicked in, we were acclimated a bit to the heat and humidity, and
it ending up serving its purpose well without getting us sick from
cold air.  Large tiled bathroom had a nice powerful shower/tub and a
large cabinet for toiletries.  The rest of the suite was carpeted, a
very welcome change from those sadistically slippery floors that many
dive resorts inflict on their guests.  Janna had wrenched her leg
pretty bad at Buddy Dive, something that Scott will find amusing, so
she really loved the carpet.

And I really loved the bed.  A very firm king-sized mattress with no
appreciable sag.  We had a big closet, lots of drawer space, and a
safe that Janna somehow locked up without setting a new code.  That's
how we first met Arie, the owner, a very pleasant Dutchman who was not
put out a bit having to trudge up to our room to open the safe with
the master key and rescue our valuables.  He really makes the place,
since he's not only an attentive manager, but also makes a point of
greeting each guest at least daily, a quick hello in the morning, a
stop for a chat by the dinner table at night, the personal attention
that you can only get in a smaller place.

Finally, we had a big living room with a picture perfect view of the
ocean (the bedrooms look out over the parking lot), and a little
kitchenette with microwave, full-size coffee maker, and a Britta-
filtered water pitcher.  They supplied the coffee and little half-and-
half containers.  After discovering they took care of both my needs,
clean water and strong coffee, I knew I didn't need to leave the
place.  Janna ended up getting her soda and iced tea fix with her
included drinks at the mealtimes, and the Divetech shop also vends
drinks and snack items.  The only reason I could think of to leave the
place would be to stock up on beer, but the bar served Caybrew on tap,
which obviated any need for bottled brew.

We were too exhausted that day to get in the water, so we headed down
to dinner instead, then went right to bed.  Dinners were very good for
the most part.  The meal plan allowed for an appetizer, entree, and
dessert.  Only the NY steak required a surcharge of $5.  They had
nightly specials, but the one night they offered lobster ($6
surcharge) they sold out after the first few tables were seated, and
didn't have any left by the time Janna came down to dinner.  Yes, I'm
still holding a grudge over missing my lobster.

Janna liked the jerk mahimahi, and my favorite was the seared tuna in
mustard sauce.  They had a good spicy shrimp appetizer that washed
down well with the Caybrew and a great mozzarella & tomato salad
drizzled with pesto.  Desserts included an excellent chocolate mousse,
and decent key lime and coconut pies.  For those who remember
Stingray, by the way, Caybrew is the new beer in town.  Apparently
it's brewed in the same brewery, but while I never cared for Stingray,
I really liked Caybrew.  They had a wine list of 15 or so bottles, all
but a couple also available by the glass.  Cocktails were good, though
somewhat weak.

Breakfast turned out to be buffet-style, even though the website
promised made-to-order.  I prefer buffets on dive days anyway since
it's much faster than ordering.  Scrambled eggs, pork products,
potatoes, juices, fruit, bread.  Lunches were good, but could be slow
if you ordered late as we found out the first day while our
instructors were awaiting our return to class.  The jerk chicken
caesar salad was our favorite, though I switched to their messy but
very tasty cheeseburgers for the last couple of days.

We started class at 8 am the first morning.  Janna had signed up for
PADI Rescue, a 2 day program, and I was taking the 5-day TDI Advanced
Nitrox & Decompression Procedures combination program.  She'll have to
speak for hers, but I was very satisfied with the tech instruction
there.  I know, it's the instructor and all, but Divetech (as you
might be able to tell from the name) does a lot of tech instruction
and they take it seriously.

The only issue with class was that I had figured that we'd be doing
the dives off the boat.  Instead, we were treated with the local deep
wall, a surface swim about halfway to Cuba, after walking down a very
long dock in full gear.  I'm pushing 40, and admittedly not in the
greatest of shape, and I soon realized that getting to and from the
dives were as much of a test as any of the skills I was made to
perform underwater, i.e. if I had a heart-attack, I'd fail.  After
coming all that way, spending all that money, I was determined not to
have a heart-attack.  Thus my avoidance of cheeseburgers in favor of
jerk chicken salad and seared tuna, as mentioned above.  One the class
was over, I attacked those cheeseburgers like a drought-stricken
Ethiopian.

We covered dive planning on both tables and vplanner.  Javan Roberts,
a lanky Brit, was my instructor.  The academics, thanks to years of
rec.scuba, was a breeze.  I scored 100% on both exams, even revealing
an error in his answer sheet when I stuck to my guns on one question.
The diving on the other hand was a bit of a challenge.  We did
progressively deeper dives off the deep wall, with Javan playing all
sorts of evil tricks while I was narced and trying to keep to the
planned run times.  I ended up passing and surviving the classes, but
it was worlds apart from any of the recreational-level classes I've
done and I can't exactly call it all fun.  Fortunately, on the last
dive of the class, the weather had completely cleared and we had a
beautiful few minutes cruising at 150' on the "bottomless" wall with
great visibility, until the cheeky bastard spit out his reg and
starting heading for my bottle of "stroke" mix.  Fun, fun.

The only quirky thing about the hotel/dive op setup is that they
rarely boat dive directly from the hotel dock.  When I original booked
with them, I simply assumed all the boat diving was off the hotel
dock, like all the other dedicated dive resorts of the world.  Then I
found out that they would drive boat divers to a dock closer to the
dive sites, with the suggestion made that the water was too shallow at
the dock for their boats.  When we arrived, I questioned this, but was
assured that the water really wasn't too shallow, that their boats had
a draft of only 3 feet.  I figured that to be bunk, as the divers kept
piling into their vans each morning on the way to the boats, until the
last day when they actually pulled a boat into the dock and loaded up
some open water students and some nitrox students doing their cert
dive.  Apparently they only pick up at the hotel when they're going
someplace with a shallow hard bottom.

During the trip I had one day of boat diving without the stress of
class.  On that day, I decided to stress myself with my new camera
instead.  I had already taken it out on a shore dive in front of the
hotel and played around shooting a bit of macro.  On the boat dives, I
switched to the wide angle setup and was very impressed with the
quality of the shots.  Besides the pretty vertical wall cut with
canyons and outcroppings, we had a flyby by a jewfishy goliath
grouper, and there were several monster lobsters hiding about that fit
great in wide-angle proportions. Unfortunately, on the way home, my
practically brand-new Dell laptop decided to fry itself and is now
giving me a blue screen error upon booting and won't load Windows.
And that wasn't the only problem with our return, as our 10:55 pm
departure out of Houston didn't leave until 2:35 am.  So much for nice
endings.

I really enjoyed the hotel and dive op.  However, I'm not sure I'd
take another tech class there due to the annoyance of the long swim
out to the deep wall, not to mention the safety issue that even MHK
raised in his review of the place a few years back - it's a really
long swim for any potential rescuer.  On our next trip that way, we'll
probably do the Aggressor, as we've always wanted to visit the sister
islands but I'm leery of little planes with their little weight
limits.  Still, we were very satisfied with our visit and I definitely
recommend the place to anyone interested in diving that part of the
world.
George Cathcart - 03 Jul 2007 12:34 GMT
> As Scott, the devoted patriot as always, will undoubtedly be flooding
> the newsgroup with hundreds of offtopic threads in the next couple
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> recommend the place to anyone interested in diving that part of the
> world.

Thanks for the excellent report Greg. Several years ago, a group of us
visited GC and stayed on 7-mile beach cause we had an excellent deal
on a friend's condo there. One of our group started out taking one of
the Dive Tech tech courses, maybe the same one you were on, but he
dropped out after a day. He prefers diving for fun. We were glad to
get him back for fun dives.

We drove out to CC one day, and it looked nice, and if I go back I
might want to try that. I do like the idea of just staying at the
hotel and diving from there. Next best thing to a liveaboard. Dive.
Eat. Sleep. Repeat as often as needed.

Thanks again.
ben bradlee - 03 Jul 2007 14:43 GMT
> The diving on the other hand was a bit of a challenge.
> I ended up passing and surviving the classes, but
> it was worlds apart from any of the recreational-level classes I've
> done and I can't exactly call it all fun.

Interesting report Greg.  While I'm sure you don't want to here this now,
you would have enjoyed this class much more if you had taken the course in
Wazee Lake.  No long swim to depth, easy travel, and reduced perspiration,
just to name a few benefits.

It was during this very class that I realized some guys were just too
serious about keeping to a schedule.  The schedule takes the fun out of
diving.
ben bradlee - 03 Jul 2007 14:51 GMT
> Interesting report Greg.  While I'm sure you don't want to here this now,

So sorry, hear.
Greg Mossman - 03 Jul 2007 21:48 GMT
> It was during this very class that I realized some guys were just too
> serious about keeping to a schedule.  The schedule takes the fun out of
> diving.

It certainly did take the fun out of it, at least during class.  I
didn't have any fun until the last day and that's only because I was
narced.  But after I got the hang of sticking to the schedule, I
realized it sure would be better with a buddy that wasn't constantly
trying to test my skills at every opportunity.  Still, it was quite a
pleasure to hop back into my rec rig for the one day of boat diving
where the plan, as usual, was: dive until low on air then return to
boat.

I had originally viewed the class as a necessary stepping stone on the
way to advanced trimix.  Now I'm not as eager to proceed to the next
step.
Dan Bracuk - 04 Jul 2007 00:07 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:Janna liked the jerk mahimahi, and my favorite was the seared tuna in
:mustard sauce.  

Was it hot or sweet jerk?  Last Friday, in Marathon, when our gang had
supper, one of the specials was jerk mahi mahi with sauteeed tropical
fruits.  I had it and it looked like John Hanson did also.  Ours was
sweet jerk.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Greg Mossman - 04 Jul 2007 00:18 GMT
> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
> :Janna liked the jerk mahimahi, and my favorite was the seared tuna in
> :mustard sauce.
>
> Was it hot or sweet jerk?

Are you calling me a jerk?

> Last Friday, in Marathon, when our gang had
> supper, one of the specials was jerk mahi mahi with sauteeed tropical
> fruits.  I had it and it looked like John Hanson did also.  Ours was
> sweet jerk.

It had a little heat to it, but really not enough to call it hot.
Does that make it sweet?  Janna bought some jerk spice rub at the
airport but still hasn't unpacked it, so I can't look at it.  We're
supposedly testing it out tomorrow for our Canadian 4th of July BBQ.
I'll report back whether it was hot or sweet.

BTW, the Cobalt Coast menu is online at http://www.cobaltcoast.com/DinnerMenu.htm

They call it "Blackened mahi-mahi, Caribbean jerk spices, mango b.b.q.
glaze, rice and beans" so I guess it wasn't true jerk mahimahi like
the stuff in the Keys, except that the Key Yankees might call it
dolphin.
Dan Bracuk - 04 Jul 2007 00:54 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:It had a little heat to it, but really not enough to call it hot.
:Does that make it sweet?  Janna bought some jerk spice rub at the
:airport but still hasn't unpacked it, so I can't look at it.  We're
:supposedly testing it out tomorrow for our Canadian 4th of July BBQ.
:I'll report back whether it was hot or sweet.

Speaking of Canadian Jerk, there is a company called President's
Choice that makes a variety of food.  Their sauces are often named
Memories of Somehwhere.  One of their products is called, The Real
Jerk, Memories of Montego Bay.  They used to have a sister product
called, The Timid Jerk, Vague Memories of Montego Bay.

The Timid Jerk is no longer on the market.  Those who liked hot stuff
would go for the Real Jerk and those who didn't would go for kethcup
or something.

The Real Jerk is really good.  If we ever cross paths on a dive trip,
remind me to bring you a bottle.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Greg Mossman - 04 Jul 2007 23:12 GMT
> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
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> The Real Jerk is really good.  If we ever cross paths on a dive trip,
> remind me to bring you a bottle.

Janna found her spice rubs.  There are five.  The jerk is Key Lime
Jerk, apparently for use on fish.  We have chicken.  We might try
Habanero Orange instead.  They are made by Big Black Dick, apparently
a new Cayman company since I don't remember them from the last visit.
They also make rum.  Apparently the "Harry Bush Trucking Company"
wasn't suggestive enough.
JOF - 05 Jul 2007 00:24 GMT
> > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> > in:
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> They also make rum.  Apparently the "Harry Bush Trucking Company"
> wasn't suggestive enough.-

Dick was our cab driver last time we were there.

JF
Dan Bracuk - 05 Jul 2007 00:24 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:They are made by Big Black Dick, apparently
:a new Cayman company since I don't remember them from the last visit.
:They also make rum.

I remember seeing Big Black Dick rum at the Georgetown airport shops
last December.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
George Price and Sheree Price - 10 Jul 2007 02:54 GMT
>> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
>> in:
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> They also make rum.  Apparently the "Harry Bush Trucking Company"
> wasn't suggestive enough.

Of course I took a picture of my fifteen year old daughter next 'the pirate
statue", only to find out later the Big Black Dick on the pirates waste.
The rest of the family looked at me incredulously like,"You didn't notice?"
Not that I really cared.  I'm sure her friends will love the picture.  I
bought a bottle of BBD hot sauce for a friend at work (got a lot of laughs
at work), but saved the carryon liquor for the Tortuga 140.
Dan Bracuk - 04 Jul 2007 00:07 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:Being met by a driver is always a nice change of pace.  My last two
:times to Grand Cayman, we trudged our carts out of the terminal,
:across the parking lot, and across the street to Andy's car rental, to
:end up sitting on the wrong side, driving on the wrong side, and
:frustrated.  

When in Fiji, my wife laughed everytime I turned the windshield wipers
on instead of the turn signal.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
George Price and Sheree Price - 04 Jul 2007 16:35 GMT
> Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
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> When in Fiji, my wife laughed everytime I turned the windshield wipers
> on instead of the turn signal.

My kids get the same grin between my wife's Ford Expedition, and my Grand
Prix GTP when I have to drive "the boat"....doesn't really matter what
country you are in.

> Dan Bracuk
> If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
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George Price and Sheree Price - 04 Jul 2007 17:31 GMT
> As Scott, the devoted patriot as always, will undoubtedly be flooding
> the newsgroup with hundreds of offtopic threads in the next couple
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> the horseshoe shaped island, far from Georgetown and the maddening
> cruisecrowds, far from 7-Mile-Beach and the huge hotel complexes.

Specifically why we picked this place.  In the end, I would put this next to
Divi on CB for the quiet nature of the place, but the condo going up next
door my change things a bit.  Nice to have Mr. Bush ferry you around, as
well for our excusion into Georgetown.  People told me to go to Brac
reef....but it is just not ocean front...I really like geting up and looking
out at the ocean.  If they don't reopen Divi soon, maybe BBR would be an
option.

We do not like the puddlejumpers either, which is why we always did LC from
CB ;  we liked to fly a jet into CB, even if it was a 10hr layover; got a
room at the Sleep Inn.  I guess you could get a boat from CB to LC....Bloody
Bay Wall is their best in Cayman, but, if you can do the liveaboard, that
can get you   there.

> Our plan was to not drive, not even leave the hotel except to dive,
> and the plan worked great.  Along with our classes and boat dives with
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> swim well" as if the exposed contacts weren't a clear-enough indicator
> of that.

I'm just used to lugging all of that sh.t to the room  before I wait for
someone to do it for me.  Not all people are able to to that, so it could be
an inconvenience.

> The room was actually a one-bedroom suite, an upgrade that cost us an
> entire $6/night.  The central a/c was a bit sluggish, but by the time
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> pretty bad at Buddy Dive, something that Scott will find amusing, so
> she really loved the carpet.

We had major airconditioning problems the first day..I have seen reviews to
this problem in the past.  It became clear after actually being there:
Cobalt Coast is designed after the traditional Carribean Great House;  it
literally is one big home.  Therefore, it is under one ac sysytem.  That's
why there are no individual ac themostats in the rooms.  Arie told us that
the people before us had the air shut off, and it was a matter of
rebalancing the system...it did not work...he gave us keys to two separate
rooms until he got it taken care of...things cooled down at night, and by
the second day everything was fine.

We took the two bedroom suite, that had a living room at the front with and
ocean front view.  When ever I book this stuff for the family, I get the
ususal critical review.  They were awestruck.  Two bedrooms, two baths, with
the living room at the front overlooking the ocean.   I was told I did
good...a great living area for four people.  Yes, with the meal plan, and
diving, it was god awful expensive, but for us, fortunately, the expense was
not the problem......getting our last few years with our twin teens before
they set off on their adult lives ..priceless.

> And I really loved the bed.  A very firm king-sized mattress with no
> appreciable sag.  We had a big closet, lots of drawer space, and a
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> stop for a chat by the dinner table at night, the personal attention
> that you can only get in a smaller place.

Arie's the best.  Even took us on our own private trip to Hell, and even
sent out lost CD of the Barefoot Man from Hell.  It's A Moray, Divers Do It
Deeper, Jeff the Muff Diver...you have never heard of him?  It's fun diver,
if not a bit schoky entertainment...but we love it as part of past
experience.

> Finally, we had a big living room with a picture perfect view of the
> ocean (the bedrooms look out over the parking lot), and a little
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> wall, a surface swim about halfway to Cuba, after walking down a very
> long dock in full gear.

I understand the dock is 120 ft.  As we were leaving GC, heading north off
the North Sound, I told my son (window seat) he might be able to see where
we were staying.  He responded that he could see it.  I asked him how he
could tell:  He said he could see the pier.  If you look at google earth,
it's hard to miss...no one else has one.

I'm pushing 40, and admittedly not in the
> greatest of shape, and I soon realized that getting to and from the
> dives were as much of a test as any of the skills I was made to
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> recommend the place to anyone interested in diving that part of the
> world.
Greg Mossman - 04 Jul 2007 23:56 GMT
On Jul 4, 9:31 am, "George Price and Sheree Price"
<gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> Specifically why we picked this place.  In the end, I would put this next to
> Divi on CB for the quiet nature of the place, but the condo going up next
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> out at the ocean.  If they don't reopen Divi soon, maybe BBR would be an
> option.

Yeah, the condo could change things.  I forgot about that.  The ocean
view was sure nice.  My last trip to GC, I had cashed in Starpoints
and stayed at the Westin.  They were fully booked, so no upgrade: we
had a view of the parking lot "garden".  (It's odd that hotels only
offer ocean or garden views, but the Westin garden has a lot more cars
than plants).

> We do not like the puddlejumpers either, which is why we always did LC from
> CB ;  we liked to fly a jet into CB, even if it was a 10hr layover; got a
> room at the Sleep Inn.  I guess you could get a boat from CB to LC....Bloody
> Bay Wall is their best in Cayman, but, if you can do the liveaboard, that
> can get you   there.

I can make up the Starpoints with business stays, so I don't mind
staying at another hotel occasionally or on a liveaboard.  But I don't
mess with my Continental mileage.  If they or a partner don't fly
there, I don't go.  Unfortunately Continental doesn't get any further
than Georgetown so that's where I get off.

> I'm just used to lugging all of that sh.t to the room  before I wait for
> someone to do it for me.  Not all people are able to to that, so it could be
> an inconvenience.

I didn't wait, they volunteered.  I got to carry it all downstairs by
myself.

> We had major airconditioning problems the first day..I have seen reviews to
> this problem in the past.  It became clear after actually being there:
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> rooms until he got it taken care of...things cooled down at night, and by
> the second day everything was fine.

I remembered your post and we were on the edge of complaining about
it, but after a day it started working adequately and by the end of
the trip we were perfectly satisfied.  I've gotten sore ears from the
kind of a/c that blasts on your head all night, so I preferred the
Cobalt Coast air system.  Janna's usually pickier about strong a/c,
but she was able to hold out until it finally kicked in after I
reminded her of our last stay in Bonaire where you'd break out in a
sweat leaving the confines of the refrigerated bedroom.

> We took the two bedroom suite, that had a living room at the front with and
> ocean front view.  When ever I book this stuff for the family, I get the
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> not the problem......getting our last few years with our twin teens before
> they set off on their adult lives ..priceless.

I still can't figure out how our hotel bill grew so high.  I have to
find where I stuffed it.  We were in a hurry to get to our plane, and
going over the inch-high stack of bar charges outside where I was
sweating already from my cheeseburger wine and lugging all the bags
around, and I finally gave in and signed whatever he stuck in front of
me so that we could get out of the sun and into the wonderfully a/c'd
confines of Mr. Bush's minivan.

So I didn't realize the bottom line until I downloaded my charges from
Chase today.  The diving I can understand, around $2K for a tech class
and gear rental and custom gas, rescue class, lots of boat dives and
more nitrox, five T-shirts, the Rogest photo book that we had signed,
and the remainder of the tip.  But the hotel bill came to twice that,
and I know I didn't drink that much booze since I was being good
because of my tech class.  So now I've dug out the hotel receipt and
sure enough, there's a duplicate charge of $1,377.50 for "dive shop".
Oops.  I'll e-mail a note to Arie and see how quickly he adjusts it.

> Arie's the best.  Even took us on our own private trip to Hell, and even
> sent out lost CD of the Barefoot Man from Hell.  It's A Moray, Divers Do It
> Deeper, Jeff the Muff Diver...you have never heard of him?  It's fun diver,
> if not a bit schoky entertainment...but we love it as part of past
> experience.

I have that one.  This trip we picked up the new one, Thong Gone
Wrong, but haven't listened to it yet.

> I understand the dock is 120 ft.  As we were leaving GC, heading north off
> the North Sound, I told my son (window seat) he might be able to see where
> we were staying.  He responded that he could see it.  I asked him how he
> could tell:  He said he could see the pier.  If you look at google earth,
> it's hard to miss...no one else has one.

I spotted it too, easily identifiable by the pier and the big
construction site next door.  It's kind of fun to have a final wave
goodbye from the plane.
Dan Bracuk - 05 Jul 2007 00:24 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:On our next trip that way, we'll
:probably do the Aggressor, as we've always wanted to visit the sister
:islands but I'm leery of little planes with their little weight
:limits.  

Taking the Aggressor does not guarantee that you will get to the
sister islands.  I didn't on my cruise.

You may want to consult someone very knowlegeable, Reef Fish (Large
Nassau Grouper) for example.   They will be able to tell you what time
of the year the probability of going to LC and CB is highest.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
Greg Mossman - 05 Jul 2007 00:41 GMT
> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Taking the Aggressor does not guarantee that you will get to the
> sister islands.  I didn't on my cruise.

It's mind over matter.  If they don't mind not taking me to the sister
islands, then it doesn't matter if I drink all of their wine.

> You may want to consult someone very knowlegeable, Reef Fish (Large
> Nassau Grouper) for example.   They will be able to tell you what time
> of the year the probability of going to LC and CB is highest.

He doesn't drink, so that's no help.  I'm figuring that hurricane
season is the best time to do it, as long as there's no hurricane.
The Aggressor's FAQ warns that December-April are the iffiest months,
so I would try September to be safest.  We did a September trip on the
Turks & Caicos Aggressor and it was very nice.  The boats are rarely
filled to capacity and the crew is so grateful anyone is there at all
that they smile a lot.

I didn't see the Aggressor while we were there, but I did see the
Rorqual cruise past, its distinctive profile unmistakeable.
Dan Bracuk - 05 Jul 2007 02:37 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:I didn't see the Aggressor while we were there, but I did see the
:Rorqual cruise past, its distinctive profile unmistakeable.

Given a choice, I'd go with the Aggressor.  32 divers on one boat has
it's disadvantages.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
Greg Mossman - 05 Jul 2007 03:21 GMT
> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Given a choice, I'd go with the Aggressor.  32 divers on one boat has
> it's disadvantages.

Not to mention that the Nektons seem to have a bit of a problem
maintaining their boats.  When it's just the hot tub that was broken,
like on my Belize trip, it's a minor inconvenience.  Losing an engine
(like the trip several weeks before my Belize trip) or a watermaker or
the a/c could be potentially more problematic.  The Cayman Aggressor
gets rave reviews, and when you figure in the cost of nitrox, it's
actually $50 cheaper (and free beer and wine to boot).

The Aggressor archives the dive logs so it's easy to look up which
trips went to the sister islands and which didn't make it.  None of
the trips this June made it there, but the few I checked from last
September and October seemed to get lucky.  A few in May too, though
that seems chancier.
Scott - 06 Jul 2007 03:04 GMT
> Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Given a choice, I'd go with the Aggressor.  32 divers on one boat has
> it's disadvantages.

Unless they have big knockers...
Magilla - 06 Jul 2007 03:59 GMT
>> Given a choice, I'd go with the Aggressor.  32 divers on one boat has
>> it's disadvantages.
>
> Unless they have big knockers...

   Be my luck they'd be man-knockers, I'd take the lower passenger
count.....
Scott - 06 Jul 2007 06:06 GMT
>     Be my luck they'd be man-knockers, I'd take the lower passenger
> count.....

And to top it all off, it would be Canadian man knockers (on holiday)...
George Price and Sheree Price - 05 Jul 2007 04:47 GMT
>> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
>> in:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> I didn't see the Aggressor while we were there, but I did see the
> Rorqual cruise past, its distinctive profile unmistakeable.

Just in case you didn't know....as we know all to well here in Florida;
September is the peak for the hurricane season.
Greg Mossman - 05 Jul 2007 07:00 GMT
On Jul 4, 8:47 pm, "George Price and Sheree Price"
<gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> >> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> >> in:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Just in case you didn't know....as we know all to well here in Florida;
> September is the peak for the hurricane season.- Hide quoted text -

Yup, and Turks & Caicos is apparently the #1 spot for hurricanes, but
our September trip there was great.  The rest of the island was shut
down.

Even with the Aggressor's liberal policy and Continental usually being
good about hurricane cancellations, I would definitely procure some
reliable trip insurance before a September trip.  That eats up any
savings gained from traveling then, but the payoff is wonderful diving
or your money back.
-hh - 05 Jul 2007 10:00 GMT
>"George Price and Sheree Price"
>[other attributions]:
> > >> ... we've always wanted to visit the sister
> > >> :islands but I'm leery of little planes with their little weight
> > >> :limits.

Cayman Airways still has some 737 service to the Brac.  If you're
really leery of puddle-jumpers, the Brac to LC jump is around 10
minutes.  Or you can likely make special arrangements for being taken
over by boat (an hour).

> > > The Aggressor's FAQ warns that December-April are the iffiest months,

This advisement  corresponds to their local "winter" climate, where
the prevailing winds tend to be more out of the Northern quadrants,
and they encounter "Norwester" winter storms (manifestations from the
extreme southern tip of strong cold fronts working west to east across
the USA).

> > Just in case you didn't know....as we know all to well here in Florida;
> > September is the peak for the hurricane season.-
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> savings gained from traveling then, but the payoff is wonderful diving
> or your money back.

I've had 15? Annual Cayman visits specifically in the Sept/Oct
timeframe.  During all that time
(200+ nights), we've had only one actual hurricane (Lily), and
probably 2 "scares" where we actually became concerned.

We're moving into October this year, and if you want to charter a boat
to run to LC daily from the Brac, it can be done, space available, and/
or possibly do an exploratory run out to Pickles Bank, which is around
50 miles offshore.  Right now, I'm waiting on a 3rd party report on
the boat in question, specifically if it is in good mechanical shape
for such a long solo run.  Otherwise, would want to have a second boat
along for the trip.

-hh
Grumman-581 - 05 Jul 2007 00:31 GMT
> So I didn't realize the bottom line until I downloaded my charges from
> Chase today.  The diving I can understand, around $2K for a tech class
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and I know I didn't drink that much booze since I was being good
> because of my tech class.

I've seen you drink... I can believe it...
George Price and Sheree Price - 05 Jul 2007 04:43 GMT
> On Jul 4, 9:31 am, "George Price and Sheree Price"
> <gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 91 lines]
> sure enough, there's a duplicate charge of $1,377.50 for "dive shop".
> Oops.  I'll e-mail a note to Arie and see how quickly he adjusts it.

Just call them on their 800 number.  They should clear it up quickly.  When
we were checking out I had mentioned a $500 deposit,  that they produced
quickly;  they had the receipt but no name to atttach to it for some reason.
They adjusted it on the spot..

They do respond to email well, though.  After receiving the CD in the mail,
I was real curious where they found it.  I emailed the question, and Dora
responded the next day that it was under the radio/CD player...I know we
didn't put it there...must have been the cleaning people, but they were nice
enough to ship it back airmail from Hell.

>> Arie's the best.  Even took us on our own private trip to Hell, and even
>> sent out lost CD of the Barefoot Man from Hell.  It's A Moray, Divers Do
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> construction site next door.  It's kind of fun to have a final wave
> goodbye from the plane.

As far as the laptop, have you tried running the Dell diagnostic on startup?
My son dropped his Inspiron 1505, and lost the backlight.  I found out about
the diagnostic function after I researched the fact the inverter board was
bad...it's an $80 part that I would replace myself.  The Dell diagnostic
function said it was a bad inverter (changes the ac to dc...or visa versa
for the backlight). Dell won't replace the inverter; they want to replace
the whole screen for $800.  It was still under warrantee, so I sent it back
to them describing the Dell diagnostic as indicating a bad inverter.  They
next dayed a special box to send it to them with a prepaid shipping label
and had it back three days later fixed.
Greg Mossman - 05 Jul 2007 06:56 GMT
On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, "George Price and Sheree Price"
<gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> As far as the laptop, have you tried running the Dell diagnostic on startup?

How'd ya do that?
ben bradlee - 05 Jul 2007 13:01 GMT
> On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, "George Price and Sheree Price"
> <gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> How'd ya do that?

http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/deke/laptopsupport/manuals/d600/diag.htm
Greg Mossman - 05 Jul 2007 16:28 GMT
> > On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, "George Price and Sheree Price"
> > <gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/deke/laptopsupport/manuals/d600/diag.htm

Awesome.  See, this group is good for something occasionally, and it's
diving-related since it's my recent uw pics that I'd like to get at.
Thank you ben.
George Price - 06 Jul 2007 01:07 GMT
>> > On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, "George Price and Sheree Price"
>> > <gpri...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> diving-related since it's my recent uw pics that I'd like to get at.
> Thank you ben.

I guess I forgot to mention this only works if you have the original Dell
hard drive, as the diagnostic function is a hidden partition on the original
OEM HD.  The link Ben gave you has all of the instructions;  you basically
start hitting the F12 button as soon as you turn it on to get into the
function, and the link explains the rest.

If you suspect the monitor, you can plug another monitor into the back of
the laptop (the blue 15 pin socket), then hold down the Blue (Fn) key
(second key at the lower left on the 1505), and press the F8 key ( it will
have crt/lcd in small blue letters under the F8).  This will output to the
other monitor...or slide projector, etc.  At least that way you can see
what's going on if the monitor is not working.  It doesn't sound like it's
the monitor though.

Google  Dell blue screen at startup; there's a lot out there.  It would help
narrowing the search to your model.
This was just one of many, and the Dell diagnostic didn't seem to help, but
there are a lot of people with the same problems...and solutions.
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic80656.html
Greg Mossman - 06 Jul 2007 01:31 GMT
> I guess I forgot to mention this only works if you have the original Dell
> hard drive, as the diagnostic function is a hidden partition on the original
> OEM HD.  The link Ben gave you has all of the instructions;  you basically
> start hitting the F12 button as soon as you turn it on to get into the
> function, and the link explains the rest.

Dell is sending me a new hard drive.  Unfortunately that won't replace
my data on the old hard drive, which consisted of the pics I just shot
in Grand Cayman.  Who woulda thunk I had to back up the stuff so
soon?  I guess from now on, I'll bring some DVDs or a portable HD to
make a backup of whatever I shoot on a trip.  Fortunately this was
mainly just practice with the new camera, but there were a couple of
decent shots I would have kept.  When I take out the old drive, I'll
try to find someone who can get the data off it, assuming they don't
want to charge too much.
Dan Bracuk - 06 Jul 2007 02:05 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:Dell is sending me a new hard drive.  Unfortunately that won't replace
:my data on the old hard drive, which consisted of the pics I just shot
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
:try to find someone who can get the data off it, assuming they don't
:want to charge too much.

My method is to constantly cull.  All you need to bring with you is a
camera and video cable.  Works well on those baggage limited puddle
jumpers to Little Cayman and Cayman Brac.
Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
JOF - 06 Jul 2007 02:09 GMT
> > I guess I forgot to mention this only works if you have the original Dell
> > hard drive, as the diagnostic function is a hidden partition on the original
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> try to find someone who can get the data off it, assuming they don't
> want to charge too much.

I had the same thing happen last year (not a Dell though) just after
getting home from Mexico. Lost 3 weeks of pics. This year I carried a
4 gig memory stick which is no bigger than a 128 meg stick and backed
up anything I thought I might like to keep. Of course this year the hd
was rock solid.

JF
George Cathcart - 06 Jul 2007 02:49 GMT
> > I guess I forgot to mention this only works if you have the original Dell
> > hard drive, as the diagnostic function is a hidden partition on the original
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> try to find someone who can get the data off it, assuming they don't
> want to charge too much.

That sucks, Greg. Good luck. I hope you're able to salvage the photos.

On my Galapagos trip I took four 2-gig memory cards. Used three of
them, and I haven't erased them yet. I have copied all the images to
my external hard drive, edited the best of them in PS and saved as PSD
files, then made jpg copies of them.

What I really want to do, though, is get a DVD burner so I can store
mass quantities safely.
George Price - 06 Jul 2007 02:53 GMT
>> I guess I forgot to mention this only works if you have the original Dell
>> hard drive, as the diagnostic function is a hidden partition on the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> try to find someone who can get the data off it, assuming they don't
> want to charge too much.

I take it you moved them off your camera?  I usually don't clear my camera
memory until I copy it to one, if not two sources, like the flash drive John
mentions.   I have noticed that sometimes the pictures don't copy well; half
of the picture will be dark.  I'm not sure what corrupts the file but it
happens from time to time, and am able to restore the picture to from
another source.

So much is digital now, except for my "old fashioned " Nikonos film, I get
real nervous about losing my pictures.  I copy my picture files to our two
desktop computers, my laptop, and a peripheral HD.  Short of someone nuking
Disney World and the resulting EM pulse, I should be okay (except if we were
home it wouldn't matter as we would probably be vaporized); I really need to
start transfering to DVD as well.
Greg Mossman - 06 Jul 2007 07:33 GMT
> I take it you moved them off your camera?  I usually don't clear my camera
> memory until I copy it to one, if not two sources, like the flash drive John
> mentions.   I have noticed that sometimes the pictures don't copy well; half
> of the picture will be dark.  I'm not sure what corrupts the file but it
> happens from time to time, and am able to restore the picture to from
> another source.

I figured my laptop would be safe enough to hold the pics for a few
days until I got home.  Shooting RAW, I get about 240 pics on a 4 GB
compact flash card, and I only own two of those.  After a couple
dives, I download and clear the CF so I have space for more.  I do
check the downloaded photos before wiping the CF, but I guess I'll
have to get in the habit of burning a DVD each time as well.
Dan Bracuk - 06 Jul 2007 23:06 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:
:I figured my laptop would be safe enough to hold the pics for a few
:days until I got home.  Shooting RAW, I get about 240 pics on a 4 GB
:compact flash card, and I only own two of those.  After a couple
:dives, I download and clear the CF so I have space for more.  I do
:check the downloaded photos before wiping the CF, but I guess I'll
:have to get in the habit of burning a DVD each time as well.

Cull early, cull often works a lot better.  Why waste card space on
out of focus pics and fish butts?

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
Greg Mossman - 07 Jul 2007 01:14 GMT
> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Cull early, cull often works a lot better.  Why waste card space on
> out of focus pics and fish butts?

It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
have to change the battery every two dives.  If I'm busy culling
underwater, I might miss something good.
Grumman-581 - 07 Jul 2007 01:35 GMT
> It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
> dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
> have to change the battery every two dives.  If I'm busy culling
> underwater, I might miss something good.

SD and Compact Flash cards are cheap these days if you can find them
on special over at Fry's... Current advertised price is $19 for the 2G
SD cards... When they are running specials on the Compact Flash cards,
they tend to be the same price... Maybe they're not the most ultra
fast cards (only 40x on the recent SD card ad), but they're good
enough unless you're taking multiple shots per second for an extended
period of time...
Dan Bracuk - 07 Jul 2007 02:09 GMT
Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
:dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
:have to change the battery every two dives.  If I'm busy culling
:underwater, I might miss something good.

Do it when you are finished diving for the day.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.
Scott - 07 Jul 2007 02:15 GMT
> It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
> dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
> have to change the battery every two dives.  If I'm busy culling
> underwater, I might miss something good.

Look and learn;

http://www.boydski.com/
Greg Mossman - 07 Jul 2007 03:05 GMT
> > It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
> > dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://www.boydski.com/

I looked.  Sorry, not much to learn there.  He has the older version
of my camera/housing, the Titan for the D100.  With the fix made to my
camera setup so the housing won't freeze up every few seconds, and if
I can manage to take some pictures home with me next time, I'll show
you some stuff just as nice or hopefully better.

I would have been able to show you some stuff as nice as his Belize
and Bonaire pics had my hard drive not taken a dive.  If I don't come
back from Palau with nicer shots than his Palau pics, I'll want my
money back.  As for cold water, I just need to get out more.  We're
diving the Coronados next week, attempt #2 with the new setup.  I'm
hoping for some decent viz and a sea lion or two.

Actually, even my old stuff, with the shitty rig, wasn't too bad.

Take a look at your buddy's Galapagos shark pic:

http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/Shark_photos.htm

Now take a look at this:

http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Galapagos_Shark.jpg

Or this hammerhead:

http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/Hammer_Head_Shark.htm

vs.

http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Hammerhead_Shark.jpg

These were taken in conditions, BTW, that would make a Coast Guard
cadet piss his leg.  Note the obligatory bald man in a DUI shot, my
personal favorite:

http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Diving_Darwin's_Arch.jpg

Now with decent resolution, shutter speed, excellent wide-angle lens,
and strobe, exposure, and focus control, I'll be able to eliminate the
mistakes of the past.  I wish I were bringing the new camera back to
the Galapagos, but I promised myself I'd shoot video this time and I
only have two hands.
Greg Mossman - 07 Jul 2007 03:18 GMT
> Take a look at your buddy's Galapagos shark pic:
>
> http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/Shark_photos.htm

Oops.  Meant this one:

http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/images/WolfGalShark1.jpg
Greg Mossman - 07 Jul 2007 03:20 GMT
> http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/Hammer_Head_Shark.htm
>
> vs.
>
> http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Hammerhead_Shark.jpg

Likewise, I meant this one:

http://www.boydski.com/diving/trips/Galapagos/images/HammerHead/DAHhead9.jpg

I think my cut and paste is sticking.
Scott - 07 Jul 2007 15:45 GMT
> > > It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
> > > dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> the Galapagos, but I promised myself I'd shoot video this time and I
> only have two hands.

Cant wait to see them.

Are you going on the Lammer Law?

Galapagos is a dream for me.
Grumman-581 - 07 Jul 2007 16:12 GMT
> Galapagos is a dream for me.

I guess that would be a *wet* dream, right? <grin>
Scott - 07 Jul 2007 16:19 GMT
> > Galapagos is a dream for me.
>
> I guess that would be a *wet* dream, right? <grin>

Get your mind out of the gutter so mine can float by...
Greg Mossman - 07 Jul 2007 18:09 GMT
> > Now with decent resolution, shutter speed, excellent wide-angle lens,
> > and strobe, exposure, and focus control, I'll be able to eliminate the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Are you going on the Lammer Law?

Peter Hughes.  One of the last 10-day trips, in the peak of whale
shark season, in the last year that anyone will be able to offer trips
longer than 7 days.  I've had quite a few people in envy of the berths
we were able to score as they had tried to get similar accommodations
without success.  Therefore, I can only take it as a sign from God
that we were meant to make this trip.  It's a whale shark Crusade.

But the airlines make it tough for camera-beladen divers to travel.
There's a "luggage embargo" in effect during the period when we're
traveling that absolutely bars extra luggage no matter how much you
try to bribe them.  It's going to be hard enough to bring dive gear
and clothes for 10 days and the video camera housing/lights.  There's
no way I could bring the still camera housing as well.

Vandit thinks I should bring the still camera and leave my dive gear
at home.  While renting gear for a day or two is never an issue, being
in unfamiliar gear in rough cold water for 9 full dive days gives me
pause.  Plus, the last time I brought both video and still on a trip,
I would up shooting primarily one format.  It's too hard to choose on
any one dive.  Since the viz isn't so hot and the diving balances more
toward pelagic action than pretty colors, I think video is the best
way to do it.

Assuming a miracle (not a bad assumption since God has already blessed
my trip), that my video lights are fixed and actually work this trip,
that the housing and lights are timely shipped back from Canada where
they're now being serviced, and I successfully manage to cart my tapes
safely back home and edit them, I'll gladly send you and anyone else
interested a copy of whatever DVD comes out of it.

In the meantime, this grainy beast was shot during the one single dive
I was treated to the behemoths on my last trip.  The mini-diver in the
lower left corner is a vice detective from Wisconsin, apparently
trying to arrest the big fish for indecent exposure.  Had my exposure
been decent, the shot wouldn't be so damn grainy:

http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Whale_Shark.jpg
Scott - 07 Jul 2007 22:15 GMT
> Peter Hughes.  One of the last 10-day trips, in the peak of whale
> shark season, in the last year that anyone will be able to offer trips
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>
> http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Whale_Shark.jpg

You suck.

I am jealous as a human can be.

But, having said that, I hope you do get to be with the whale sharks, what
an accomplishement.

One of my biggies is to go to Canada where the Orcas go to rub against the
bottom and exfoliate.

We have just started getting them back into the canal, they were put off by
the Navy using gnarly sonar to guard the sub bases and such.
George Price and Sheree Price - 13 Jul 2007 02:48 GMT
Looks to me that Gladin Spit off of Belize is the place to find regular
whale sharks March- June.  It seems to be a bit of a ride to get there, and
is not very calm...apparently they come there to feed, so they are regulars,
but as to the best months?, call them (whom ever you stay with) and ask.

http://tinyurl.com/2g3c6j

George

>> > Now with decent resolution, shutter speed, excellent wide-angle lens,
>> > and strobe, exposure, and focus control, I'll be able to eliminate the
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> http://users.adelphia.net/~gmossman/Galapagos/Whale_Shark.jpg
Chris Guynn - 09 Jul 2007 15:20 GMT
> > > It's not a waste of space if I'm changing out the card every two
> > > dives, and I might as well change out the card every two dives since I
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> I would have been able to show you some stuff as nice as his Belize
> and Bonaire pics had my hard drive not taken a dive.

Is Dell letting you keep your hard drive?

If so, you might check out one of these:
http://www.priorityelectronics.com/laptopaccessories/laptopaccessoryharddrive.htm
becuase it may still be possible to retrieve your photos.

Of course, it might be a waste of money, but it's only $20 or so and you
might be able to retrieve all of those precious photos.
Greg Mossman - 09 Jul 2007 20:57 GMT
> Is Dell letting you keep your hard drive?

I assume so, as they didn't ask for it back.  The new one is supposed
to arrive by tomorrow morning.

> If so, you might check out one of these:http://www.priorityelectronics.com/laptopaccessories/laptopaccessoryh...
> becuase it may still be possible to retrieve your photos.
>
> Of course, it might be a waste of money, but it's only $20 or so and you
> might be able to retrieve all of those precious photos.- Hide quoted text -

Since they were just practice shots, I wouldn't spend $200.  However,
for $20 or so, it might be worth it.  I have three dead laptop hard-
drives now.  The other two have even better u/w shots.

So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
recognized as a slave drive?  That would be very cool if it's only the
boot sector that took a dive.  I'll give it a shot.
ben bradlee - 09 Jul 2007 21:43 GMT
>> Is Dell letting you keep your hard drive?
>
> I assume so, as they didn't ask for it back.  The new one is supposed
> to arrive by tomorrow morning.

Dell took my CC# and said they would charge the CC if a drive wasn't
returned.  I don't remember the details but they ended up with a drive back.
(I really dislike Dell - but that's another story.)

> So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
> recognized as a slave drive?  I'll give it a shot.

A friend did a recovery of data files off my niece's dead drive with no
loss.  He hooked it up as a second drive in an existing, compatible,
computer.  Your method sounds even simpler with the USB interface.  He says
it depends on what is wrong with the drive; expected no problem if the
circuit board and arm were good but didn't guarantee anything if he had to
transfer parts between drives.  I heard quite a few ifs and buts before he
took the drive.
Greg Mossman - 09 Jul 2007 21:43 GMT
> So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
> recognized as a slave drive?  That would be very cool if it's only the
> boot sector that took a dive.  I'll give it a shot.

Prestige Electronics didn't have the Serial ATA flavor of 2.5"
enclosures, so I found DigiDepot.com and ordered one of each from
them.  They also happened to be even cheaper than Prestige.  I shelled
out an additional $7 for shipping, though I should just call them and
try to pick it up as they're only about 15 miles away.  Hopefully it
will get to me by the end of the week and then we'll see what I can
recover.

Thanks for the tip.  I didn't even realize such DIY kits existed.
Once I get it connected to a working PC, it should hopefully be easy
enough, with the help of some utilities, to restore all my missing
pics.  Hooray!
George Cathcart - 09 Jul 2007 21:57 GMT
> > So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> > USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
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> enough, with the help of some utilities, to restore all my missing
> pics.  Hooray!

I hope it works Greg. I would really like to see those photos. And
even if they were "just practice shots" you can't learn anything from
them if you can't see them.

Good luck.

gc
Greg Mossman - 10 Jul 2007 01:03 GMT
> > > So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> > > USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
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> even if they were "just practice shots" you can't learn anything from
> them if you can't see them.

True.  They were going to help me with my Photoshop skills, if nothing
else.  The macro I shot is crap, but potentially fixable crap (just
playing around with PS one night there, I had made a nice black &
white rendition from a grey angelfish shot), but some of the wide-
angle was half-decent and I never got a chance to play with any of
that.

Here's the land stuff from the trip and 3 highly cropped u/w pics from
my last dive:

www.kodakgallery.com/mossman
George Cathcart - 10 Jul 2007 01:37 GMT
> > > > So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> > > > USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
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>
> www.kodakgallery.com/mossman

Good stuff, Greg. The u/w doesn't look bad. The Xmas tree worms are
very nice, except that the background is blown out, but that makes
them stand out more. That was your intent, right?

I do think you've convinced me to stay at Cobalt coast next time I go
to Grand Cayman. I like that it's so far from Georgetown and SMB.

Good luck with your hard drive.

gc
Greg Mossman - 10 Jul 2007 02:56 GMT
> >www.kodakgallery.com/mossman
>
> Good stuff, Greg. The u/w doesn't look bad. The Xmas tree worms are
> very nice, except that the background is blown out, but that makes
> them stand out more. That was your intent, right?

Uh, sure.  Yeah, that was my intent, just like with Jackson Pollack
cutting out the prettiest section of a huge paintsplotched canvas.
Call it art or call it luck.  But thanks anyway.

Actually, it's all washed out because I was in 12 feet of water on a
bright sunny day and because the housing was freezing up, I had no way
to check what I was doing.  Macro lenses are great for shortening the
depth of field, giving backgrounds that soft fuzzy look to enhance the
focused subject.  Here I simply combined soft fuzzy with overexposed
for an the overexposed soft fuzzy look that you admire.

I put the three originals under Grand Cayman #2 on the website for
comparison's sake.  I'm also uploading the pics from the three other
trips I've managed to keep, off my old website.  Hopefully I'll add to
these as I start restoring my dead hard drives.

> I do think you've convinced me to stay at Cobalt coast next time I go
> to Grand Cayman. I like that it's so far from Georgetown and SMB.

> Good luck with your hard drive.

The new one arrived.  I shall put it in as soon as I find the original
CDs for MS Office and Photoshop since I'll have to activate and
reinstall them.
Chris Guynn - 09 Jul 2007 22:21 GMT
> > So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> > USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
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> enough, with the help of some utilities, to restore all my missing
> pics.  Hooray!

All I ask in return is that we (or, at least I) get to see some of the pics
if you can recover any.

Glad I could (maybe) help.
Greg Mossman - 10 Jul 2007 00:59 GMT
> > > So with PnP, you think I can just stick the HD in one of these IDE-to-
> > > USB enclosures, plug the USB cable into my desktop, and it should be
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>
> Glad I could (maybe) help.

I'll post whatever I can recover on my nifty new photo homepage:
www.kodakgallery.com/mossman

Right now, there's only the land shots that I fortunately waited until
the last night and day there to starting shooting, and the u/w stuff
that I shot on my very last dive there, the dive I did to see if my
fix to the housing fixed the problem I was having with the housing (it
didn't).  Therefore, I wasn't composing shots, but basically pointing
and shooting to see if the housing would still lock up every few shots
(it did).  From the 20 or so pics I took, I managed to crop out two
little fishies and a pair of X-mas trees.  But the land shots have
local wildlife as well: a dog, a cat, and a large iguana.  Enjoy.
 
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