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50 Caliber ricochet

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Rod - 30 Jun 2007 18:47 GMT
Check this out lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Scott - 30 Jun 2007 18:58 GMT
> Check this out lol

> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

Must not have been an AP round...

That dude is lucky to be alive.
-hh - 30 Jun 2007 22:01 GMT
> > Check this out lol
> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
>
> Must not have been an AP round...
>
> That dude is lucky to be alive.

Even AP rounds can ricochet right back, depending on the target's
hardness & thickness.

-hh
Scott - 30 Jun 2007 22:26 GMT
> > > Check this out lol
> > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Even AP rounds can ricochet right back, depending on the target's
> hardness & thickness.

You know I know that.
Dillon Pyron - 02 Jul 2007 04:56 GMT
>> > Check this out lol
>> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Even AP rounds can ricochet right back, depending on the target's
>hardness & thickness.

A human skull is about 7.5 mm thick and not really all that hard.

Oh wait, you meant downrange and not uprange.

>-hh
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Lee Bell - 01 Jul 2007 00:02 GMT
> Check this out lol
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

That's at least the third time I've seen that and I still can't figure out
what he was shooting at or how far out it was.
Rod - 01 Jul 2007 02:16 GMT
>> Check this out lol
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
>
>That's at least the third time I've seen that and I still can't figure out
>what he was shooting at or how far out it was.

Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 01 Jul 2007 02:28 GMT
>>> Check this out lol
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
> Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron

 Note the time elapsed between the shot and it's return.

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-hh - 01 Jul 2007 12:35 GMT
"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com>
wrote:
> "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message
>
> > Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron
>
>   Note the time elapsed between the shot and it's return.

Timelapse register on youTube suggests ~2 seconds, although its a
quite crude measure.

Since the shot didn't penetrate, it suggests that it was going less
than 300fps on impact, and thus, a lot shorter range than most would
otherwise suspect.  While the average return velocity would have been
higher than impact velocity, using 'infinite' velocity outbound and
300fps as the average works out neatly to 200yds.

Similarly, the time lag between the target 'ping' and the 'thwack' is
the speed of sound beating the bullet back.  The timelapse for this
seems to be around 1sec, so 1100fps - 300fps = 800ft = ~260 yds.

-hh
Scott - 02 Jul 2007 17:04 GMT
>   Note the time elapsed between the shot and it's return.

Kinda like this;

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/010408.php
Scott - 02 Jul 2007 17:08 GMT
> Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron

I have tried .30/06 ball ammo against a torque converter and it barely made
a mark on it.

Just kinda scuffed the finish.
Dillon Pyron - 05 Jul 2007 03:46 GMT
>> Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron
>
>I have tried .30/06 ball ammo against a torque converter and it barely made
>a mark on it.
>
>Just kinda scuffed the finish.

My first paying drive was an A/FD.  Injected nitro burning 392
connected to a Ford 9 inch rear end with a Torquflite.  With me
sitting on top of the tranny.  You bet your butt I wanted it tough.
And I bet my butt that it was.  Although I did see quite a few
explosions.  Something about send 1000hp through something designed
for 150.
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JOF - 05 Jul 2007 03:48 GMT
> >> Best I can figure is a sheet of cast iron
>
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> explosions.  Something about send 1000hp through something designed
> for 150.

The pucker factor probably added some safety margin.

JF
Scott - 06 Jul 2007 03:03 GMT
> My first paying drive was an A/FD.  Injected nitro burning 392
> connected to a Ford 9 inch rear end with a Torquflite.  With me
> sitting on top of the tranny.  You bet your butt I wanted it tough.
> And I bet my butt that it was.  Although I did see quite a few
> explosions.  Something about send 1000hp through something designed
> for 150.

I have never yet seen a torque converter that compromised the casing.

The guts were fragged, but never a compromise of the case.
 
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