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Scuba Forum / General / June 2007Question about Florida diving
There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I was wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe (obviously, past performance does not guarantee future results). I was there the last week of August last year and the diving was really good, IMO. I think about 30' of vis at LBTS and about '40 in WPB. It was worse in December and better in May. I think it has more to do with the weather and the currents than the time of year but I might be wrong. Lee or someone else can comment better than me. But, I enjoyed all of the dives. Even the one where Curtis was chumming the sea life on LBTS in December. >There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I was >wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe (obviously, >past performance does not guarantee future results). > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I was > wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe (obviously, > past performance does not guarantee future results). you are in prime hurricane season. Its a crapshoot as far as the weather is concerned. When I have been diving in North Carolina and Virginia, I have been blown out more times than I have dove in September. Andy > > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I was > > wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe (obviously, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Andy That's what I was afraid of. *If* I can go, I'm trying to decide if it's worth the effort/cost to plan to be there longer so I can go diving. If I go, I'll definitely be there Wednesday through Friday with Thursday evening being the least flexible time. If it was very likely that I would get good diving in, I was considering extending the vacation to go Saturday to Saturday, but if the chances aren't that good, I'll probably pass. > > > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I > was [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > diving in, I was considering extending the vacation to go Saturday to > Saturday, but if the chances aren't that good, I'll probably pass. Hurricane season is always chancy. If you get lucky, the conditions can be some of the best all year. If you get unlucky, you'll probably end up holed up indoors somewhere, wishing you were back home. I've been blown out of diving plenty of times outside hurricane/ typhoon season (Cozumel in February, Belize in May, Palau in May), and had some great experiences when I've been willing to risk it (Turks & Caicos last September, for example). In Florida, you have the alternative of diving the inland springs, which may be unaffected by coastal weather. It will mean a bit of a drive, and changing your hotel plans on the spot, but it's a nice drive (unless the roads are crowded with evacuees) and hotels can be very flexible at that time of the year if you plan for the flexibility in advance (they're happy to get anyone who's crazy enough to travel there during hurricane season). > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I > was > wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe > (obviously, > past performance does not guarantee future results). It's better than it ever is anywhere in Texas. If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going to be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not survive long. Next time I'm in Texas, I'd have to hunt you down and make you pay. Lee > > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I > > was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not survive > long. Next time I'm in Texas, I'd have to hunt you down and make you pay. Make him pay with proper Texas style smoked brisket. And beer. Bastard anyway... > > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I > > was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's better than it ever is anywhere in Texas. Even during a hurricane? > Even during a hurricane? Probably... Perhaps the La Brea tar pits have worse diving than most Texas rivers and lakes, but that's about it... Even with the bottom stirred up because of a hurricane, Florida probably has better visibility than 99% of Texas fresh waters... Offshore, it can be OK if you get far out from any of the rivers that dump their sediment into the Gulf... No coral reefs, but the rigs are pretty good... On the other hand, Chris is in Midland -- he's a good 400 miles from the Gulf (at least)... > > Even during a hurricane? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > other hand, Chris is in Midland -- he's a good 400 miles from the Gulf > (at least)... All I've got close to me is a little watering hole known as San Solomon Springs. It's used quite frequently by instructors from across the state for check out dives. That's not because the diving is so great (it's not), but because the conditions are just about perfect for a check out dive (that's not in a tropical location). It doens't get more than 25 feet deep, the water is clear (as long as the students stay away from the grassy area... otherwise there's silt everywhere). And there's a few (freshwater) fish and a couple of turtles to play with. >> It's better than it ever is anywhere in Texas. > Even during a hurricane? You think maybe Texas doesn't get hurricanes? Yes, even in a hurricane. > >> It's better than it ever is anywhere in Texas. > > Even during a hurricane? > > You think maybe Texas doesn't get hurricanes? Not at the same time as South Florida, though maybe this year will be special and there will be a double whammy. > If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going to > be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not survive > long. Next time I'm in Texas, I'd have to hunt you down and make you pay. Yeah, like you would actually be willing to drive all the way over to Midland from any place that might actually have a large enough airport that you would be there on business... You're talking 520 miles from Houston or 335 miles from Dallas or 327 miles from San Antonio... There are probably a few things more boring than driving through West Texas, but I can't think of any right now... <snicker> > > If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going to > > be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not survive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > There are probably a few things more boring than driving through West > Texas, but I can't think of any right now... <snicker> Cruising Pantex? > There are probably a few things more boring than driving through West > Texas, but I can't think of any right now... <snicker> Listening to RF give a lecture on statistics. >> If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going >> to >> be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not >> survive >> long. Next time I'm in Texas, I'd have to hunt you down and make you >> pay. > Yeah, like you would actually be willing to drive all the way over to > Midland from any place that might actually have a large enough airport > that you would be there on business... You're talking 520 miles from > Houston or 335 miles from Dallas or 327 miles from San Antonio... > There are probably a few things more boring than driving through West > Texas, but I can't think of any right now... <snicker> I cover 14 southern states. Texas is one of them. Hunting Chris down is far superior to actually working, even in Midland. > I cover 14 southern states. Texas is one of them. Hunting Chris down is > far superior to actually working, even in Midland. Hmmm... Sounds like you've never been to Midland... <snicker> > >> If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going > >> to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I cover 14 southern states. Texas is one of them. Hunting Chris down is > far superior to actually working, even in Midland. Thanks... I think. >> I cover 14 southern states. Texas is one of them. Hunting Chris down is >> far superior to actually working, even in Midland. > Thanks...I think. You're welcome. I'm sure. Lee > > If you visit S. Florida and don't let me know precisely when you're going to > > be here and where, you may survive to return home, but you may not survive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > There are probably a few things more boring than driving through West > Texas, but I can't think of any right now... <snicker> Have you ever watched the movie Pan's Labyrinth? That's more boring than driving through West Texas. > There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I > was > wondering how the diving has historically been in that timeframe > (obviously, > past performance does not guarantee future results). Take a chance, book it. >>There's a small chance I could be in the Miami area in mid September. I >>was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Not much of a chance. Yer odds of having a dive blown out by a hurricane are roughly 1 in 7,000. But mid-September is still the rainy season, plan for a.m dives. Mid September will see the warmest water, 84 degrees, prolly not very good viz but the viz here is whatever it is, can vary greatly in just hours. >> Take a chance, book it. > Not much of a chance. Yer odds of having a dive blown out by a hurricane > are roughly 1 in 7,000. Are the chances better for either talking you into Marathon, or at least sitting at the same dinner table on Sunday, the First of July? Curtis |
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