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Nitespark - 21 Dec 2003 01:44 GMT I changed a lightbulb.
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Kimber - 21 Dec 2003 01:56 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. All by yourself?!!?
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rnf2 - 21 Dec 2003 02:16 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. It's light bulb, note the space.
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srspencer@hotmail.com - 21 Dec 2003 02:30 GMT >> I changed a lightbulb. > >It's light bulb, note the space. > >rhys Could it be a lite bulb? As in low cal.
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rnf2 - 21 Dec 2003 02:51 GMT > >> I changed a lightbulb. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > T dunno, does it fit down a .22 barrel or a .44 barrel? I'd prefer a medium cal. such as .38
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chilly - 21 Dec 2003 02:37 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. That is so exciting! Was it a night light?
Nitespark - 21 Dec 2003 02:51 GMT >>I changed a lightbulb. > > That is so exciting! Was it a night light? Actually one of my infra-red tail lights.
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chilly - 21 Dec 2003 03:53 GMT > >>I changed a lightbulb. > > > > That is so exciting! Was it a night light? > > Actually one of my infra-red tail lights. ooooohhhhh, sexxxxxxyyyyy.
George Cathcart - 21 Dec 2003 03:11 GMT Were you drinking beer at the time?
Did you shoot the old bulb?
No real need to change the bulb unless you only like having sex in the dark.
There: beer, guns and sex in a single post.
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> I changed a lightbulb. rnf2 - 21 Dec 2003 03:26 GMT I already did guns, see the "Cal" post.
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> Were you drinking beer at the time? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > I changed a lightbulb. Curtis - 21 Dec 2003 03:24 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. Damn.......I have to tonight. Problem is, series Christmas lights, 100 on the string, gotta find which one it is......on 3 strings. Teach me to use them for more than one year. ;-)
Curtis
rnf2 - 21 Dec 2003 03:32 GMT > > I changed a lightbulb. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Curtis toss the lot in the open fireplace when no-ones looking, when they look around at the smell of plastic go Ooopsie, and go change the bulb with a Visa at the nearest Walmart.
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Curtis - 21 Dec 2003 04:05 GMT > toss the lot in the open fireplace when no-ones looking, when they look > around at the smell of plastic go Ooopsie, and go change the bulb with a > Visa at the nearest Walmart. But buying replacement bulbs for cash at Wally World and going through each one earns more "honey-do" points. ;-)
Curtis
Chris Guynn - 22 Dec 2003 16:19 GMT > > toss the lot in the open fireplace when no-ones looking, when they look > > around at the smell of plastic go Ooopsie, and go change the bulb with a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Curtis Generally, there's only one bulb out. What I do is replace the first bulb. If it works great, if not, I take what was the first bulb and use it to replace the second bulb. I repeat until I find the proper bulb. It's generally about 3/4 of the way from whichever end I start on.
David M. Burnworth - 23 Dec 2003 03:39 GMT "Chris Guynn" <chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message > Generally, there's only one bulb out. What I do is replace the first bulb.
> If it works great, if not, I take what was the first bulb and use it to > replace the second bulb. I repeat until I find the proper bulb. It's > generally about 3/4 of the way from whichever end I start on. What happens if you start in the middle and go one way? :)
David
Chris Guynn - 23 Dec 2003 15:08 GMT > "Chris Guynn" <chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message > > Generally, there's only one bulb out. What I do is replace the first bulb. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > David It will be approximately 1/4 of the way the opposite direction
David M. Burnworth - 23 Dec 2003 20:53 GMT "Chris Guynn" <chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message > It will be approximately 1/4 of the way the opposite direction
Is that better or worse?
David
Chris Guynn - 23 Dec 2003 22:02 GMT > "Chris Guynn" <chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message > It > will be approximately 1/4 of the way the opposite direction > > > Is that better or worse? > > David About the same. My way, I go through 3/4 of the strand from beginning to bad bulb.
Your way, I'd go through 1/2 the strand (middle to end) and then 1/4 the strand (middle to 1/4 other direction or end to 1/4 towards middle) for a total of 3/4 of the way.
David M. Burnworth - 24 Dec 2003 02:23 GMT "Chris Guynn" <chrisguynn@sbcglobal.N.O.S.P.A.M.net> wrote in message > About the same. My way, I go through 3/4 of the strand from beginning to
> bad bulb. > > Your way, I'd go through 1/2 the strand (middle to end) and then 1/4 the > strand (middle to 1/4 other direction or end to 1/4 towards middle) for a > total of 3/4 of the way. You just can't win...
David
Nitespark - 21 Dec 2003 05:24 GMT >>I changed a lightbulb. > > Damn.......I have to tonight. Problem is, series Christmas lights, 100 > on the string, gotta find which one it is......on 3 strings. Teach me to > use them for more than one year. ;-) You can get one of those little AC testers that you hold up next to a wire. If the wire is energized the tip of it will glow. Plug your Christmas lights into the wall socket and just follow the line tester up the string until it doesn't glow anymore and there is your bad bulb. You can get these testers at most any electrical supply house for about $20.
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Jammer Six - 21 Dec 2003 06:02 GMT > Damn.......I have to tonight. Problem is, series Christmas lights, 100 > on the string, gotta find which one it is......on 3 strings. Teach me to > use them for more than one year. ;-) Period key stuck, or are you functionally illustrious?
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Curtis - 21 Dec 2003 06:19 GMT > Period key stuck, or are you functionally illustrious? Well, (pausing) I'd explain it, (pausing) but I figure ya already have the answer.
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Jammer Six - 21 Dec 2003 08:41 GMT > > Period key stuck, or are you functionally illustrious? > > Well, (pausing) I'd explain it, (pausing) but I figure ya already have > the answer. You spelled "you" wrong.
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Curtis - 21 Dec 2003 15:12 GMT > You spelled "you" wrong. Not here in the South, I dinnit.
South......place where I can still tee-shirt dive in Dec-Jan.
Curtis
David M. Burnworth - 21 Dec 2003 20:48 GMT I thought series Christmas lights went out he door years ago. How passee....
David
> > I changed a lightbulb. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Curtis Jammer Six - 21 Dec 2003 22:16 GMT > I thought series Christmas lights went out he door years ago. How > passee.... There are no series Christmas lights.
There is only "New", "Tangled", and "Doesn't Work".
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Rudy Benner - 21 Dec 2003 22:36 GMT > ? I thought series Christmas lights went out he door years ago. How > ? passee.... > > There are no series Christmas lights. > > There is only "New", "Tangled", and "Doesn't Work". Any sensible person will throw the damned things in the garbage at the end of the holiday, or better yet, just leave them installed all year. Still, better, don't bother putting any up, don't buy anyone any presents either !!
Humbug !
David M. Burnworth - 21 Dec 2003 23:08 GMT > There are no series Christmas lights. > > There is only "New", "Tangled", and "Doesn't Work". Good point.
David
Curtis - 22 Dec 2003 02:46 GMT > ? I thought series Christmas lights went out he door years ago. How > ? passee.... > > There are no series Christmas lights. > > There is only "New", "Tangled", and "Doesn't Work". Damn if that ain't the truth!!
Curtis
Fishbre396 - 21 Dec 2003 03:36 GMT >I changed a lightbulb. Wow!!
Curtis - 21 Dec 2003 04:01 GMT > >I changed a lightbulb. > > Wow!! Something beyond your comprehension?
Curtis
Scott - 21 Dec 2003 04:19 GMT > > >I changed a lightbulb. > > > > Wow!! > > Something beyond your comprehension? What is not?
Scott - 21 Dec 2003 03:40 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. Cool.
I did three today (one was the result of a murder; I killed it with malice aforethought), and another one wants me.
Bulbs aint sh.t onced ya gets to know them.
rnf2 - 21 Dec 2003 04:10 GMT > > I changed a lightbulb. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bulbs aint sh.t onced ya gets to know them. Aren't Once You. get the spelling right
Scott - 21 Dec 2003 04:21 GMT > > I did three today (one was the result of a murder; I killed it with malice > > aforethought), and another one wants me. > > > > Bulbs aint sh.t onced ya gets to know them. > > Aren't Once You. get the spelling right In English please...
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 21 Dec 2003 05:31 GMT > > > I changed a lightbulb. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Aren't Once You. get the spelling right This from folks who add unnecessary "u"s to words?
Capitalize the G in "get". Don't you also need a period at the end of "right", or do they do stuff differently in NZ? :-)
Dennis
Dan Bracuk, CTHD - 21 Dec 2003 03:49 GMT Nitespark <nitespark@cox.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:I changed a lightbulb. Into what?
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Randy Buckner - 21 Dec 2003 05:40 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. Can you PROVE that you changed the light bulb. Do you have photos? Documentation? Witnesses? .....;-)
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Nitespark - 21 Dec 2003 14:08 GMT >>I changed a lightbulb. > > Can you PROVE that you changed the light bulb. Do you have photos? > Documentation? Witnesses? .....;-) > If you can't see the light, you must be in the dark.
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Chris Guynn - 22 Dec 2003 16:23 GMT > I changed a lightbulb. You mean a darksucker right?
http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/darktheory.html
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 22 Dec 2003 18:01 GMT > > I changed a lightbulb. > > You mean a darksucker right? > > http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/darktheory.html Nice page. I've pointed out to 'em that they dont mention the most powerful darksucker of them all - the black hole.
Dennis
Nitespark - 22 Dec 2003 19:18 GMT >>I changed a lightbulb. > > You mean a darksucker right? > > http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/darktheory.html Absolutely fascinating. So there really is no such thing as a heater....its actually a "coldsucker" and conversely, there is no such thing as a freezer, actually a "heatsucker"????
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Chris Guynn - 22 Dec 2003 22:53 GMT > >>I changed a lightbulb. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > heater....its actually a "coldsucker" and conversely, there is no such > thing as a freezer, actually a "heatsucker"???? hmmm... I'd have to see the proofs, but it stands to reason... :-)
Scott - 23 Dec 2003 01:46 GMT > >>I changed a lightbulb. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > heater....its actually a "coldsucker" and conversely, there is no such > thing as a freezer, actually a "heatsucker"???? Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement.
At absolute zero, nothing is moving.
Pressure is a measurement of molecular inertia. Each molecule has an area around it that it wants to keep free, kinda like the birds on a wire, so when you compress them into a flask, such as a SCUBA cylinder, they are all trying to find their space, and the result is inertia produced by movement away from each other.
Heat is energy, cold is lack of energy.
Vacuum is not a force, it is a lack of force. \
And always remember; two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts does.
Scott
Nitespark - 23 Dec 2003 01:49 GMT >>>>I changed a lightbulb. >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > And always remember; two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts does. Two wrongs don't make a right indeed.....
but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!!
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Lee Bell - 23 Dec 2003 03:39 GMT > Two wrongs don't make a right indeed..... > but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!! Which modern engineers can't duplicate, at least they couldn't this year.
Lee
Nitespark - 23 Dec 2003 10:44 GMT >>Two wrongs don't make a right indeed..... >>but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!! > > Which modern engineers can't duplicate, at least they couldn't this year. au contraire....modern engineers duplicated it....they just couldn't duplicate the weather conditions.
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Lee Bell - 23 Dec 2003 12:47 GMT > >>Two wrongs don't make a right indeed..... > >>but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > au contraire....modern engineers duplicated it....they just couldn't > duplicate the weather conditions. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the right name?) flew. The one this year didn't.
Lee
Chris Guynn - 23 Dec 2003 15:06 GMT > > >>Two wrongs don't make a right indeed..... > > >>but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lee My understanding was that it did fly, just not nearly as far...
Galen Hekhuis - 23 Dec 2003 15:17 GMT >The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the >right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. Actually what they said was: "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." You can't imagine how many hours I've wasted going through bowls of pudding futilely looking for proof. :^)
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Lee Bell - 24 Dec 2003 00:42 GMT > >The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the > >right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. > > Actually what they said was: "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." > You can't imagine how many hours I've wasted going through bowls of pudding > futilely looking for proof. :^) Must be a different they, but I have to admit, your staying is better than mine.
Time spent going through bowls of pudding is not wasted, at least not if it's butterscotch, banana or chocolate.
Lee
Nitespark - 24 Dec 2003 00:53 GMT >>The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the >>right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. > > Actually what they said was: "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." > You can't imagine how many hours I've wasted going through bowls of pudding > futilely looking for proof. :^) I suspect Popeye could help you with your pudding. How much "proof" would you like in it???
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Galen Hekhuis - 24 Dec 2003 01:07 GMT >>>The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the >>>right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I suspect Popeye could help you with your pudding. How much "proof" >would you like in it??? Some folks like mixes, and a little ice I can see for some things, but *pudding*?
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Nitespark - 24 Dec 2003 01:55 GMT >>>>The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the >>>>right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Some folks like mixes, and a little ice I can see for some things, but > *pudding*? Never can tell....might start a whole new market. Maybe get Bill Cosby to pitch it. :)
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Matthias Voss - 24 Dec 2003 07:47 GMT Galen Hekhuis schrieb:
> Some folks like mixes, and a little ice I can see for some things, but > *pudding*? Try this: http://www.york-united-kingdom.co.uk/localinfo/yorkshirepudding/
Matthias
Nitespark - 24 Dec 2003 00:50 GMT >>>>Two wrongs don't make a right indeed..... >>>>but two Wrights DID make an airplane!!! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. The Wright Flier (is that the > right name?) flew. The one this year didn't. Guess they just didn't have the Wright stuff!!
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David M. Burnworth - 24 Dec 2003 02:24 GMT To Nitespark,
Congratulations on creating one of the longest and sometimes funniest non-scuba threads I have seen in a long time!
David
Nitespark - 24 Dec 2003 10:51 GMT David M. Burnworth wrote:
> To Nitespark, > > Congratulations on creating one of the longest and sometimes funniest > non-scuba threads I have seen in a long time! > > David Thanks.....(I think)
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Lee Bell - 23 Dec 2003 03:38 GMT > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. I'm going to stick my neck out a bit, but I don't think this is correct. Absolute zero is the temperature at which, if it followed the graph, all molecules in a gas would cease all movement. It presumes, however, that it would still be a gas at that point, which it wouldn't. As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute zero have been achieved.
Lee
Grumman-581 - 23 Dec 2003 03:38 GMT > As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below > absolute zero have been achieved. Yeah, but only in a certain carpetbagger senator from NY... <snicker>
Dazed and Confuzed - 23 Dec 2003 04:53 GMT > > As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below > > absolute zero have been achieved. > > Yeah, but only in a certain carpetbagger senator from NY... <snicker> That was right after Monica came out of the woodwork.....Didja ever notice that shortly after that , the dog "buddy" disappeared and they got a cat?
I heard that the dog got betwen them and froze to death.....
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Scott - 23 Dec 2003 03:51 GMT > > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. > > I'm going to stick my neck out a bit, but I don't think this is correct. > Absolute zero is the temperature at which, if it followed the graph, all > molecules in a gas would cease all movement. Which is exactly what I said. Nothing we can measure or detect is moving. So, in reality, we could define the limits of this to the limit of the human ability.
> It presumes, however, that it would still be a gas at that point, which it wouldn't.
> As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute zero have been achieved.
Easy.
Space.
No molecules, no movement, no temperature. In fact, lack of molecular movement (due to no molecules) is a fact.
Scott
Lee Bell - 23 Dec 2003 12:49 GMT > > > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > > > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, in reality, we could define the limits > of this to the limit of the human ability. No, it's not what you said. You did not mention gas.
> > It presumes, however, that it would still be a gas at that point, which it > > wouldn't. As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute
> zero have been achieved.
> Easy. > Space. > No molecules, no movement, no temperature. In fact, lack of molecular > movement (due to no molecules) is a fact. Space, at least what we call space when talking about astronauts, is not a perfect vacuum. The molecules may be scattered far and wide, but they're still there.
Lee
Alan Street - 23 Dec 2003 22:12 GMT > > Easy. > > Space. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > perfect vacuum. The molecules may be scattered far and wide, but they're > still there. True. There's actually quite a lot of them in interplanetary space. Another interesting tidbit is the concept of temperature at very low pressures. As Scott pointed out, temperature is actually a measure of the average particle energy in a given area. Although there aren't many particles in space, those that are there tend be very energetic and tend to keep that energy because there isn't much for them to bump into. Although the concept of "temperature" becomes somewhat distorted in the upper atmosphere, the "temperature" of the plasma in the ionosphere is on the order of 1000 degrees C. Here's an interesting page that shows the pressure and temperature of the upper atmoshpere:
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/forschung1/
(nasa.gov also has some good references, but I couldn't quickly find any that easily showed what I was trying to say)
Alan
Dennis \(Icarus\) - 23 Dec 2003 03:59 GMT > > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute zero have been > achieved. Apparently, the movement doesn't stop, but they're as slow as they possibly can be. http://www.pa.msu.edu/~sciencet/ask_st/012992.html
I think the gas would have passed through to liquid (and solid)? states before reaching absolute zero.
This describes negative temperature on the kelvin scale http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/neg_temperature.html
Dennis
> Lee Chris Guynn - 23 Dec 2003 15:06 GMT > > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee They hadn't when I was in college... of course, that's been a year or two
:-) Lee Bell - 24 Dec 2003 00:40 GMT "Chris Guynn"
> As I recall, and I'm really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute zero have been achieved.
> They hadn't when I was in college... of course, that's been a year or two > :-) You're probably right. I did a bit of a search after I posted that suggests that there has not been a recorded temperature even at, let alone below absolute zero. Temperatures on Pluto, which I thought were a sure thing, weren't that cold.
Lee
Alan Street - 23 Dec 2003 21:24 GMT > > Temperature is a measurement of molecular movement. > > At absolute zero, nothing is moving. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > really getting iffy here, temperatures below absolute zero have been > achieved. Not to my knowledge.
Also, at absolute zero, all materials are solids.
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