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Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 May 2007 06:28 GMT Teen dies after Toronto school shooting Last Updated: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 | 9:21 PM ET CBC News A 15-year-old student has died after being shot at a school in Toronto's north end on Wednesday, police said.
The boy was rushed to Sunnybrook Hospital in critical condition after he was found at about 2:30 p.m. ET in a hallway of C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute.
A 15-year-old boy was rushed to hospital after a shooting at C.W. Jeffreys Colligiate Institute. (CBC) Toronto police confirmed just before 5 p.m. that the teen had died of a single gunshot wound.
"It's shocking such a crime could take place in our schools," Chief Bill Blair told reporters after the shooting.
"It's a very serious matter.. A young student has lost his life in a school, and that should be a safe environment."
The boy has been identified as Jordan Manners, a Grade 9 student. Police have not named any suspects or made any arrests.
There were reports of a fight outside the school before the shooter followed the student inside.
The school on Sentinel Road, near Finch Avenue West and Keele Street, went into lockdown mode after the shooting.
Students were held in classrooms and the library as police officers combed the hallways and rooms for evidence and any signs of danger.
Parents gathered outside the school, many crying as they tried to reach their children inside by cellphone.
"I want to know what happened. My son is inside. He's in Grade 10," one woman told CBC News, her eyes filled with tears.
"I want to know if someone can say something, if he's OK or no."
At 6 p.m., students were ushered out of the school and boarded onto city buses, then reunited with their families at a nearby middle school. One girl was taken to hospital in shock, but there were no other reported injuries.
Family member sobs when told of death
The victim's family congregated at the hospital shortly after the boy arrived there and one woman sobbed loudly when she heard of the boy's death. The family was eventually joined by some students from C.W. Jefferys.
There were reports of a fight outside the school before the shooter followed the student inside at C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute in north Toronto Wednesday afternoon. (CBC) The shooting happened near the school's swimming pool and was originally called in to police as a drowning.
About 850 students attend the school and many have already posted tributes to the boy who died on the website Facebook.
Shortly after the shooting, Ontario's premier expressed his condolences to the victim's family.
"I also know I speak for all Ontarians when I condemn and deplore the violence we've seen here today," Dalton McGuinty said in a written statement.
"I want the entire community at C.W. Jefferys C.I. to know that they are in my thoughts and prayers at this difficult time."
Toronto Mayor David Miller said the situation shows the need for stricter gun control.
He said handguns are too accessible, as people can steal them from collectors in Toronto or smuggle them into Canada from the United States.
"We have to, I think, make a statement in Canada that handguns are not acceptable anymore," Miller told CBC News.
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Greg Mossman - 24 May 2007 06:40 GMT On May 23, 10:28 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> Toronto Mayor David Miller said the situation shows the need for stricter > gun control. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "We have to, I think, make a statement in Canada that handguns are not > acceptable anymore," Miller told CBC News. You're finally coming around?
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 May 2007 06:44 GMT > On May 23, 10:28 pm, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You're finally coming around? To what?
Scott - 24 May 2007 14:34 GMT > > You're finally coming around? > > To what? To the idea that Greg and the rest of the intellectuals are going to conjur up some kind of Martian death ray to remove all handguns from planet earth.
Scott - 24 May 2007 14:34 GMT > "It's shocking such a crime could take place in our schools," Chief Bill > Blair told reporters after the shooting. Head meet sand. It's right there in the hole next to Francis, Mighty Mouth and Mossman.
> Toronto Mayor David Miller said the situation shows the need for stricter > gun control.
> He said handguns are too accessible, as people can steal them from > collectors in Toronto or smuggle them into Canada from the United States.
> "We have to, I think, make a statement in Canada that handguns are not > acceptable anymore," Miller told CBC News. This guy is an opportunistic f.cking rocket surgeon.
It's not the handgun, dumbass.
Greg Mossman - 24 May 2007 15:59 GMT > > Toronto Mayor David Miller said the situation shows the need for stricter > > gun control. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's not the handgun, dumbass. Let's see:
Mayor of Toronto: graduated Harvard magna cum laude, LLB from U. of Toronto, mayor of a city of 2.5 million people
vs.
Scott Koplin: lives in trailer, graduated high school (?), has two daddies
Hmmm, whose opinion should a reasonable person rely on? That's a real tough choice.
Grumman-581 - 24 May 2007 16:29 GMT > Let's see: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hmmm, whose opinion should a reasonable person rely on? That's a real > tough choice. Nawh, more like:
Mayor of Toronto: Canadian
vs.
Scott Koplin: American
Not a tough choice at all...
Scott - 24 May 2007 18:06 GMT > > Mayor of Toronto: graduated Harvard magna cum laude, LLB from U. of > > Toronto, mayor of a city of 2.5 million people [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Scott Koplin: lives in trailer, graduated high school (?), has two > > daddies Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful socialist shitheads that are surrendering our nation and hard won freedoms to the Islamic Fascists. When they finally nuke LA, I hope his house is ground zero.
I not only graduated high school, got some college (AA degree), but scored in the 97th percentile on the ASVAB, and served my nation.
I dont live in a trailer, but see nothing wrong with people who do.
I leave that disgusting level of bigotry to the LA snotnosed like Mossman.
College education and wealth are hallmarks of some of the biggest thieving, lying, worthless pieces of sh.t ever to become criminals (Ken Lay for just one example). And Mister Bigot his ownself, Greg Mossman.
> > Hmmm, whose opinion should a reasonable person rely on? That's a real > > tough choice. Thats funny, because he assumes to be seen or held as a "reasonable person".
Another of those "self definition" hallucinations that brand the moonbats.
News flash.
Mossman is as reasonable and sane as Mussolini.
In fact, Mossman would be twice the tyrant Mussolini was; the only thing keeping him in check is the constitution and guns.
I guess that's where the fear comes from. He cant rule the world with so many of us law abiding, decent people armed.
> Nawh, more like:
> Mayor of Toronto: Canadian
> vs.
> Scott Koplin: American
> Not a tough choice at all... I aint trying to be a politician or suck the dicks of the far left socialist idiots that think the gun was the problem.
The Mayor of Toronto is, and this single incident shows how far wrong they are, have been and will always be.
I guess these rocket surgeons never heard of a zip gun powered by match heads.
Outlaw antennae, rubber bands, nails, door hinges and matches.
Greg Mossman - 24 May 2007 18:36 GMT > "Grumman-581" <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
> Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal > immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful socialist > shitheads that are surrendering our nation and hard won freedoms to the > Islamic Fascists. When they finally nuke LA, I hope his house is ground > zero. God I love it when a mere few lines can provoke such a long, head- spinning, bile-gushing rant. I haven't lost my touch at all.
Fortunately I don't live in L.A., conveniently residing just outside the fallout zone, but it's nice to see that you're hoping for a nuclear terrorist attack against the U.S. in order to further support your President Monkey's self-made war on "terror".
> I not only graduated high school, got some college (AA degree), but scored > in the 97th percentile on the ASVAB, and served my nation. > I dont live in a trailer, but see nothing wrong with people who do. > I leave that disgusting level of bigotry to the LA snotnosed like Mossman. I bet you score in the 97th percentile of all trailer residents too. You should be proud. I bet your daddies are.
> College education and wealth are hallmarks of some of the biggest thieving, > lying, worthless pieces of sh.t ever to become criminals (Ken Lay for just > one example). And Mister Bigot his ownself, Greg Mossman. Don't forget George W. Bush. He has a fine college educashun.
It's quite amazing how you blame education for turning people into criminals, but you'll never blame a gun for killing people. I bet Ken Lay owned a gun or two, at least before he became a felon.
> Mossman is as reasonable and sane as Mussolini. Does that qualify to invoke Godwin's?
> In fact, Mossman would be twice the tyrant Mussolini was; the only thing > keeping him in check is the constitution and guns. Yeah, that and the power. But when I get elected President . . .
> I guess that's where the fear comes from. He cant rule the world with so > many of us law abiding, decent people armed. Don't give yourself all the credit. There are a few other barriers in my road to World Domination. But I'm working on it. First I need my very own nuke. Maybe you could help me build one since I'm not interested in the ugly DIY crap. I want a nicely machined streamlined nuke that will impress all the Republicans during the Breaking Bulletins on Fox News. In return, I'll name you my Ambassador to Trailer Land, the new quarantined territory I'm setting up by walling off certain southern states using the wall that currently separates us from Mexico. I'll hire illegals to do the wall relocation so it won't break our fragile budget.
Please help. I already have a monkey contracted to do the work, but he insists on making it look like a banana and I really want a torpedo shape.
> I guess these rocket surgeons never heard of a zip gun powered by match > heads. A zip gun powered by match heads? Methinks you watch too much MacGyver (a show that was produced in Canada, BTW).
> Outlaw antennae, rubber bands, nails, door hinges and matches. And don't forget the fully-automatic version, available at a black market near you.
Grumman-581 - 26 May 2007 05:49 GMT > Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal > immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful socialist > shitheads that are surrendering our nation and hard won freedoms to the > Islamic Fascists. I would have to take exception to that statement... I have seen no indication whatsoever that Greg is a faggot... (Not that I want to see any either)... As far as for the rest of your adjectives .... Well .... he's probably not 'perfect' .... at best, probably 'nearly perfect'...
Magilla - 26 May 2007 13:05 GMT >> Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal >> immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful >> socialist >> shitheads that are surrendering our nation and hard won freedoms to the >> Islamic Fascists.
> I would have to take exception to that statement... I have seen no > indication whatsoever that Greg is a faggot... The dude likes quiche.......
Scott - 26 May 2007 15:29 GMT > >> Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal > >> immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The dude likes quiche....... Prosecution rests.
Grumman-581 - 28 May 2007 19:41 GMT > The dude likes quiche....... Hmmm... I forgot about that... Still, it's possible that there might be *one* person out there who likes quiche and isn't gay... Maybe Greg's that person?
Circumstantial evidence, perhaps?
The defense's case doesn't look that good... Oh well...
JOF - 28 May 2007 19:47 GMT On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 12:05:13 GMT, "\"Magilla\"" <cavey_curtis@$$ > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The defense's case doesn't look that good... Oh well... C'mon. I know plenty of guys who aren't gay, and aren't afraid to admit they like quiche. Of course I'll bet if we looked around we could surely find more than a few gay fellers who carry a concealed handgun.
JF
dazed and confuzzed - 29 May 2007 01:48 GMT > On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > JF SO go and ask them if you can pat them down....
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JOF - 29 May 2007 17:54 GMT On May 28, 8:48 pm, dazed and confuzzed <dedmann@comcast_remove.net> wrote:
> > On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > > gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > SO go and ask them if you can pat them down.... I'll take them at their word that they're just happy to see me.
JF
Chris Guynn - 29 May 2007 14:35 GMT > On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > JF I don't like quiche.
Now, an omelet with a pie crust occasionally is pretty good.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 29 May 2007 20:28 GMT > On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > could surely find more than a few gay fellers who carry a concealed > handgun. only if the pistols are pink http://www.pinkpistols.org/
Janusz
JOF - 30 May 2007 02:49 GMT On May 29, 3:28 pm, "janus...@hotmail.com" <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 28, 2:41 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > only if the pistols are pink http://www.pinkpistols.org/ 8)
JF
Scott - 26 May 2007 15:35 GMT > > Greg Mossman, lying bigot, LA faggot lawyer, exploiter of illegal > > immigrants, *perfect* respresentative of the far left, ungrateful socialist > > shitheads that are surrendering our nation and hard won freedoms to the > > Islamic Fascists.
> I would have to take exception to that statement... I have seen no > indication whatsoever that Greg is a faggot... (Not that I want to see > any either)... As far as for the rest of your adjectives .... Well > .... he's probably not 'perfect' .... at best, probably 'nearly > perfect'... The troops got their money, Obama and Hillary were finally exposed for who and what they are, and, as an added bonus, Obama got bitch slapped by McCain for running his lefty suck when he should have shut up.
Greg Mossman - 24 May 2007 18:17 GMT On May 24, 8:29 am, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- gmail.com> wrote:
> > Let's see: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Not a tough choice at all... Actually, the Mayor was born in the U.S. (San Francisco, which you'll claim is worse than Canada, but he was born American nonetheless)
Grumman-581 - 24 May 2007 18:28 GMT > Actually, the Mayor was born in the U.S. (San Francisco, which you'll > claim is worse than Canada, but he was born American nonetheless) Nawh, for that [being born in SF] to be the case, there would have to be some heterosexuals in there [SF]... They weren't doing artificial insemination back then, were they?
Matthias Voss - 24 May 2007 22:54 GMT > On May 24, 8:29 am, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- > gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Actually, the Mayor was born in the U.S. (San Francisco, which you'll > claim is worse than Canada, but he was born American nonetheless) Sounds like a draft dodger, hey? Matthias
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2007 00:20 GMT > Sounds like a draft dodger, hey? He was 10 in 1968, 17 in 1975 according to Wikipedia. But his British mother apparently predicted the war by moving him when he was 2, back to merry old England after his American father died. The war was over by the time he returned to go to Harvard, so unlike most of the U.S. Republican party, he didn't even have to get an educational deferment to dodge the war.
dazed and confuzzed - 24 May 2007 19:37 GMT >>>Toronto Mayor David Miller said the situation shows the need for stricter >>>gun control. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Hmmm, whose opinion should a reasonable person rely on? That's a real > tough choice. Goes to show how useless an education can be with the right person, that a Harvard magna cum laude does not bestow any sense, and that the people of Toronto are either stupid to vote for the guy or they got gypped.
Other than that...
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Scott - 24 May 2007 20:12 GMT > Goes to show how useless an education can be with the right person, that > a Harvard magna cum laude does not bestow any sense, and that the > people of Toronto are either stupid to vote for the guy or they got gypped. > > Other than that... Two racks of pork ribs about to go onto the grill, with bourbon spank-a.s sauce for finish.
Danlw - 25 May 2007 03:19 GMT "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
> Two racks of pork ribs about to go onto the grill, with bourbon spank-a.s > sauce for finish. I hope you have a good wine for that, none of that screw top stuff, you know, like trailer stuff. Wait, does my travel trailer count as "Trailer Park"? I better put the cork back in that Woodward Canyon cab then ;).
Scott - 25 May 2007 06:45 GMT > "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Wait, does my travel trailer count as "Trailer Park"? I better > put the cork back in that Woodward Canyon cab then ;). We dont waste good ribs on rotten grape juice.
We use beer and tequila.
Greg Mossman - 25 May 2007 07:46 GMT > > "Scott" <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We use beer and tequila. Scott likes sweet white wines, preferably under $5 a bottle. Just like a little girl. Ain't that cute?
Chris Guynn - 25 May 2007 14:16 GMT > > "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > We use beer and tequila. Yeah, rotten barley and rotten cactus are much better uses of good ribs. :-)
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