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Scuba Forum / General / May 2007Cure for contact lenses and you still can't read your gauges
I just found those Stick-On Optx 20/20 bifocal stick-on lenses for $9.99 a pair on eBay. Just type in "stick on lenses" in the search box. I just got new contact lenses for diving but now seeing close is a problem. These are not the larger ones for diving masks, but they are large. I had to cut them down to fit my sunglasses. They are also only $10 a pair and work like a charm. Not sure yet what will happen if your mask fills up with water, but they seem pretty stuck to me (they stick on with water and are removable and reusable). When positioned properly they work just fine, and you have plenty of time to position them. I have no connection with the company or the guy who sells them. Just wanted to pass along an interesting product I found at a substantial discount. They are new in retail packaging, and if you buy 4 pair you get even more of a discount. Happy diving. I'll be starting my second shot at certification early next month. Should be easy after what I've been though with my previous instructor, to all who were following my threads. Sheldon > I just found those Stick-On Optx 20/20 bifocal stick-on lenses for $9.99 a > pair on eBay. Just type in "stick on lenses" in the search box. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Sheldon I may check these out. I too have trouble reading gauges... I can see the position of the needle, and the markings, but reading the numbers on the SPG requires eyes younger than mine. I know what the numbers are of course (and I can see the red zone!) but it's probably not a good idea to be playing Mr. Magoo underwater. >> I just found those Stick-On Optx 20/20 bifocal stick-on lenses for >> $9.99 a pair on eBay. Just type in "stick on lenses" in the search box. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> discount. They are new in retail packaging, and if you buy 4 pair you >> get even more of a discount. if they are the half lenses I got, you can make bifocals with them. just pick the powers you want for distance, and for instrument viewing. they never came loose in the water. rarely in washing the mask. >> I just found those Stick-On Optx 20/20 bifocal stick-on lenses for $9.99 >> a pair on eBay. Just type in "stick on lenses" in the search box. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > course (and I can see the red zone!) but it's probably not a good idea to > be playing Mr. Magoo underwater. I was thinking, I do that sometimes, if you have two masks and really want to save money you can use one lens in each mask. Just pick your dominant side or I guess the left side (I assume most gauges come around the left side). > "Paul Foley" <paulfxfoley@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> I may check these out. I too have trouble reading gauges... I can see >> the position of the needle, and the markings, but reading the numbers on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > side or I guess the left side (I assume most gauges come around the left > side). When you want to get rid of all that stuff, try Lasic with slight mono vision, usually with the left eye only corrected to about 20/30 for decent near vision. It's really nice to be able to get rid of contacts and glasses and wear non-prescription sunglasses. Also, I think it pays in the long run as the cost for glasses and contacts really adds up in a few years. >> "Paul Foley" <paulfxfoley@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > non-prescription sunglasses. Also, I think it pays in the long run as the > cost for glasses and contacts really adds up in a few years. I've been reading about having surgery for my vision problems, and with far-sightedness, astigmatism and getting older (near-sightedness), the success rate for surgery just doesn't sound good enough for me -- yet. I have a pair of those no line progressive bifocals that work perfectly for me, and use the contacts mostly for sports. I already have a pair of RGP contacts corrected to monovision, and they really suck when the weather is bad (read - "On a dark and stormy night"). Many people with surgery have to wear glasses when they drive or at night. You might be one of the lucky ones I will agree with you that the cost of surgery is not an issue when you compare it to the cost of glasses and contacts, except with RGP lenses and designer glasses. A pair of RGP lenses can last you years, and designer glasses just cost too damn much but look oh so good. Why do cheap frames always look like crap? "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I've been reading about having surgery for my vision problems, and with :far-sightedness, astigmatism and getting older (near-sightedness), the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :wear glasses when they drive or at night. You might be one of the lucky :ones Everything they told me was true. They said I would be able to see off in the distance with no problem whatsoever, but would need reading glasses. Since I had reached the stage where I neeeded reading glasses with contacts, it was worth it. I had heard rumours of the night vision thing and checked it out. It didn't seem to happen with the current surgical techniques and did not happen to me or anyone else I know who has "had their eyes done". Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- The night vision problems are actually quite rare. I have had the surgery and know of at least 20 others - no one has had the problem - the screening for the surgery is quite comprehensive ( at least mine was) Your corneas need to be large enough so that when you are cut and the cornea lifted back the surgical isn't in your field of vision. I am very pleased with my results (hasn't helped my typing, tho) "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :When you want to get rid of all that stuff, try Lasic with slight mono :vision, usually with the left eye only corrected to about 20/30 for decent :near vision. :It's really nice to be able to get rid of contacts and glasses and wear :non-prescription sunglasses. Also, I think it pays in the long run as the :cost for glasses and contacts really adds up in a few years. I got lasik this year and I don't agree with the last sentence. It was an expense, plain and simple. A worthwhile expense, but still an expense. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in > :When you want to get rid of all that stuff, try Lasic with slight mono > :vision, usually with the left eye only corrected to about 20/30 for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Dan Bracuk > If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. While the newest version of lasic "wavefront" is a bit more expensive, lasic for both eyes is available around here for less than $2,500. More where you are? "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :While the newest version of lasic "wavefront" is a bit more expensive, :lasic for both eyes is available around here for less than $2,500. More :where you are? I paid more. There is a place that advertises 500 bucks an eye or something like that, but I wasn't really looking for the bargain basement. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk@pathcom.com> wrote in message > :where you are? > > I paid more. There is a place that advertises 500 bucks an eye or > something like that, but I wasn't really looking for the bargain > basement. I agree, would not want the low bidder working on my eyes. But, one of the highest rated lasic centers here is also very reasonable. I think it is worth the price to be rid of glasses/contacts. Would do it again in a second if necessary. > "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message > > :where you are? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > worth the price to be rid of glasses/contacts. Would do it again in a > second if necessary. Yee-haw. I totally agree. Dave's Lasix & Worm shop is the best place in Idaho to get your laser surgery and your bait worms in one easy convenient location. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Yee-haw. I totally agree. Dave's Lasix & Worm shop is the best place :in Idaho to get your laser surgery and your bait worms in one easy :convenient location. The place that did my eyes also does cosmetic laser surgery. Probably not enough people out there to stay in business doing nothing but lasik. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > The place that did my eyes also does cosmetic laser surgery. Probably > not enough people out there to stay in business doing nothing but > lasik. Not at the prices they charge, apparently. I hadn't realized the surgery got so cheap. Didn't it used to cost $10K or so? Here's a place in Toronto that will operate on Americans for as low as $390 an eye: http://www.lasikmd.ca/ctoronto-downtown/price/us-international-patients/cost-us- international-toronto-downtown.en.html You can practically spend that on a decent pair of glasses. Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Here's a place in Toronto that will operate on Americans for as low as :$390 an eye: :http://www.lasikmd.ca/ctoronto-downtown/price/us-international-patients/cost-us- international-toronto-downtown.en.html : :You can practically spend that on a decent pair of glasses. My wife knows some people who had their eyes done there and were happy with the results. I know a guy that went there for an assessment and, notwithstanding the advertised prices, his surgery would have cost $4000. That's still $1000 less than what my clinic normally charges, but a lot more than what was adveritsed. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting > in: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > $4000. That's still $1000 less than what my clinic normally charges, > but a lot more than what was adveritsed. Yeah, I noticed the "starting from" in the fine print. Apparently there are all sorts of options they can add on, like power windows and floor mats. Me, I'll stick with my contacts for now. I'm not real big on voluntary surgery, but then I'm also not yet far-sighted. When I have to switch to bifocals or reading glasses + contacts, maybe I'll change my mind. By that time the price will have dropped so much I'll be able to get both eyes done for $9.99 at WalMart. >> Greg Mossman <moss...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting >> in: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > my mind. By that time the price will have dropped so much I'll be > able to get both eyes done for $9.99 at WalMart. You can always get your contacts set up for "monovision." This is where they set one lens for distance and take some strength off the other lens for closer vision. You brain will adjust, but many people notice problems when they drive at night. Some even do their surgery in monovision. IMHO not a great idea. > You can always get your contacts set up for "monovision." This is where > they set one lens for distance and take some strength off the other lens for > closer vision. You brain will adjust, but many people notice problems when > they drive at night. Some even do their surgery in monovision. IMHO not a > great idea. My uncle has been doing this for a long time, claiming it's for the reason you suggest, but I believe it's really because he's saving money wearing contacts in only one eye. (Before the gun nuts jump on my "uncle", let me clarify that I'm not talking about my dead great- uncle here, who I believe wore reading glasses). I thought my uncle was just being weird, as he often tends to be, but my optometrist mentioned the possibility during my last visit. Supposedly the brain eventually adjusts, but I don't think it could be very healthy rewiring the neurons like that, and in the meantime it would seem to make vision very confusing. >> You can always get your contacts set up for "monovision." This is where >> they set one lens for distance and take some strength off the other lens [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > very healthy rewiring the neurons like that, and in the meantime it > would seem to make vision very confusing. You can, in fact, get used to anything. They did an experiment at some college where they gave some students glasses that made everything upside down. It took them quite awhile to adjust, but they did. Everything was fine until they had to give the glasses back and the students started bumping into walls trying to adjust back. I've worn, and still to at times, RGP lenses set to monovision. If you just forget about them they work and you adjust. If you concentrate on them you do notice the difference. At night, however, often the eye that's set to close will cause lights to blur and the other eye just can't compensate -- I should probably say your brain can't compensate. This can not only be very irritating but it can be dangerous. I've done it, but the irritation and blurred lights overtake any adjustments my brain is making. Currently I think I have the best of all worlds. RGP monovision. Comfortable, soft Toric lenses set to 20/20. Reading glasses, and graduated no line bifocals (my favorites). "Sheldon" <sheldon@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :You can always get your contacts set up for "monovision." This is where :they set one lens for distance and take some strength off the other lens for :closer vision. You brain will adjust, but many people notice problems when :they drive at night. Some even do their surgery in monovision. IMHO not a :great idea. I experimented with that by only wearing one contact. Everything was ok, but nothing was all that great. After half a day or so, I said, "to heck with this nonsense" and put the other contact back in. A freind of mine only got one eye lasiked. She said that it took about a week to adjust and that had I persevered, I would have gotten better results with my experiment. The bottom line is that she is happy with her results and I am happy with mine. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. >> "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message >> > :where you are? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in Idaho to get your laser surgery and your bait worms in one easy > convenient location. They used to be good. But, a California company, Crystal Kleer Vision and Meth shop bought them out. By the way, you seem to have the impression that I live in Idaho. I live in Idaho no more than you live *in* LA. Now, if you were to get out, say Upland way, I could introduce you to my cousin and family. And, I would have to introduce you because you would be looking for a redneck and he is a retired aerospace engineer. > >> "Dan Bracuk" <NOTbra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message > >> > :where you are? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > introduce you because you would be looking for a redneck and he is a retired > aerospace engineer. Upland, California? I'm familiar with the area. Whereabouts (major cross streets)? Does he dive? (I know lots of diving rednecks) > Upland, California? I'm familiar with the area. Whereabouts (major > cross streets)? Does he dive? (I know lots of diving rednecks) Not too far from the Upland Hills Country Club. Have not been there in awhile, so I'm sure it's a slum now, right? > Not too far from the Upland Hills Country Club. Have not been there in > awhile, so I'm sure it's a slum now, right? I hope not, since I'm about a mile away. Probably one of the least redneck areas of redneck San Bernardino County. Lots of Republicans, though, which is practically the same. I doubt I'm the only NRA member in the area. Maybe you're due for a visit. Let me know, so I can collect some roadkill for the grill. "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message > Maybe you're due for a visit. Let me know, so I can collect some > roadkill for the grill. Missed my chance on the way home from the boat this week-end. Three fresh grilled deer, make that grill and bumper, maybe even a fender. > "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Missed my chance on the way home from the boat this week-end. Three fresh > grilled deer, make that grill and bumper, maybe even a fender. You're spoiled. Out here it's mainly possum and house cat, with the occasional coon to add a little spice to the stew. Someone tried for a bear up the hill a couple years ago, but it managed to get away before the driver could back up and take another shot. If they'd only legalize pistol hunting in the streets around here, it would make life a lot easier. > Missed my chance on the way home from the boat this week-end. Three fresh > grilled deer, make that grill and bumper, maybe even a fender. I know an area out in eastern Oregon where the road is paved with ground squirrels and jack rabbits. Oddly, shooting the critters is encouraged there, and there are no limits or license requirements. "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message > I know an area out in eastern Oregon where the road is paved with ground > squirrels and jack rabbits. > > Oddly, shooting the critters is encouraged there, and there are no limits > or > license requirements. True statement. But, they don't taste worth a sh.t. ;) > "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message > > I know an area out in eastern Oregon where the road is paved with ground > > squirrels and jack rabbits. > > Oddly, shooting the critters is encouraged there, and there are no limits > > or > > license requirements. > True statement. But, they don't taste worth a sh.t. ;) Oddly, no one I know out there would even try to eat either. Easier to hang out on an LA offramp with a "Will work for food" sign. "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : And, I would have to :introduce you because you would be looking for a redneck and he is a retired :aerospace engineer. I'm not sure how the two groups are mutually exclusive. Dan Bracuk If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. > "Danlw" <danlw7@nospamcomcast.net> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Dan Bracuk > If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. Guess it depends on your idea of a redneck--the people in Idaho that get accused of being one by a lot of Kalifornians, and other *city* folk, or the people they themselves feel are rednecks. Big difference. > Guess it depends on your idea of a redneck--the people in Idaho that get > accused of being one by a lot of Kalifornians, and other *city* folk, or the > people they themselves feel are rednecks. Big difference. It's all perspective. I was born in the sophisticated "westside" of an Alpha World City. Just about anywhere more provincial is therefore "redneck" to me, which is basically 99% of the world. > And, I would have to > introduce you because you would be looking for a redneck and he is a retired > aerospace engineer. What makes you think that the two groups are mutually exclusive? ;-) > > And, I would have to > > introduce you because you would be looking for a redneck and he is a retired > > aerospace engineer. > > What makes you think that the two groups are mutually exclusive? ;-) "Houston, this is mission control..." Meaning it isn't said; "Los Angeles, this is Berkley control." Plus, no one but a redneck could comment on the TLI burn with "Man, they are really hauling the mail outta here." in reference to the speed feedback from telemetry.
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