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Scuba Forum / General / April 2007Miss America has a gun
http://www.wkyt.com/wymtnews/headlines/7126591.html > http://www.wkyt.com/wymtnews/headlines/7126591.html So does my girlfriend, and she keeps telling me she knows how to use it. That is a great story, however. > So does my girlfriend, and she keeps telling me she knows how to use it. > That is a great story, however. So does mine, and she does know how and, more importantly, when to use it. >> So does my girlfriend, and she keeps telling me she knows how to use it. >> That is a great story, however. > So does mine, and she does know how and, more importantly, when to use it. My wife has an Italian made Beretta 92-F and has been taught to use it, but is not entirely proficient. It's time for her to take another trip to the range with me. I keep trying to get her to try USPSA shooting with me, where she'll really learn how to use her handgun effectively and safely. Lee > >> So does my girlfriend, and she keeps telling me she knows how to use it. > >> That is a great story, however. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Lee So guys, your ladies have handguns as Miss America 1944. What about walkers? ;-) Janusz > >> So does my girlfriend, and she keeps telling me she knows how to use it. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > range with me. I keep trying to get her to try USPSA shooting with me, > where she'll really learn how to use her handgun effectively and safely. Ade has been fortunate, one of our good buds is also the FTI for the State Patrol, so she has had quick action drills, offhand shooting, etc. > "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > Ade has been fortunate, one of our good buds is also the FTI for the State > Patrol, so she has had quick action drills, offhand shooting, etc. I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop as a graduation present. > > "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > Ade has been fortunate, one of our good buds is also the FTI for the State > > Patrol, so she has had quick action drills, offhand shooting, etc. > I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop > as a graduation present. She can always buy a new laptop. She did very well with the 1911, as I recall. > I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop > as a graduation present. Well, 10 years from now, the 1911 will be worth more than the laptop... I just got through trading some old laptops that I had cluttering up my closet for some spare cell phones that will work with my cell service provider... I had spare phones for Verizon, but I'm on T-Mobile these days and didn't have a spare phone... Plus, sometimes my primary Blackberry phone is not the best choice for the activity that I'm engaging in... > I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop > as a graduation present. Both would be a good idea. > > I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop > > as a graduation present. > > Both would be a good idea. I think her mom is gonna get her the laptop. She'll need that for school. Her mom will also have a complete coniption if she unwraps a shiny new .45, so that's another check in the "plus" column. I think that, and the full course schedule down at the range would be a nice graduation gift. > > > I'm thinking of giving the kid a choice between a 1911 or a new laptop > > > as a graduation present. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think that, and the full course schedule down at the range would be > a nice graduation gift. Take her to Gila; http://www.firearmsacademy.com/womens.htm http://www.firearmsacademy.com/CC101.htm > I think that, and the full course schedule down at the range would be > a nice graduation gift. You're the best judge of that, but it sounds like a plan to me. On the other hand, a full sized 1911 is a bit much to fit in a purse. Somebody makes a baby 1911, one they're advertising all the parts the had to redesign, that looks like it may be a winner. As I understand it, it's expected to be available in .40 before long. Of course, Kimber and other manufacturers make .45s small enough to fit in a purse too. I dearly love my Kimber 1911 .40. It shoots where I point it, has a great trigger, actually a bit sensitive for a carry gun, and is reliable as the day is long . . . but it's still a full sized 1911. I recently purchased a Springfield Armory XD-9 Sub Compact. It's the most accurate 3 inch gun I've ever owned, but it's not all that pleasant to shoot. Even a 9mm has significant recoil out of a gun this small. The next one up, either the compact or the service model, would be great. They're available in 9mm, a decent round that costs little to shoot, .40 caliber, an excellent defense round and still reasonable to shoot, .357 sig, which is too expensive to shoot for me to recommend it to anyone, and a .45 which is, of course the best defensive hand gun in history. I like the XDs better than the Glocks for a variety of reasons: 1. They have a grip safety, a firing pin block and a trigger safety. Glocks don't have a grip safety. 2. They are single action. Glocks are double action only, sort of. 3. They point and shoot more like a 1911 than any similar gun I've tried. At any rate. Good luck on the graduation presents. A computer and a handgun sounds like the perfect combination to send a child off to college. Lee > At any rate. Good luck on the graduation presents. A computer and a > handgun sounds like the perfect combination to send a child off to college. http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/ http://www.charlesdaly.com/HTML/Details/dynamic_details.asp?ModLink=CDGR8372 > On the other hand, a full sized 1911 is a bit much to fit in a > purse. Hmmmm... The way I see it, the age of a women tends to be directly proportional to the size of their purse... They start out with the itsy bitsy little things that aren't much larger than a wallet and soon enough progress to the point where we can call 'em "bag ladies"... Big enough for a laptop, a full frame M1911, and who knows what else... >I dearly love my Kimber 1911 .40. It shoots where I point it, has a great >trigger, actually a bit sensitive for a carry gun, and is reliable as the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >accurate 3 inch gun I've ever owned, but it's not all that pleasant to >shoot. [SNIP] >I like the XDs better than the Glocks for a variety of reasons: >1. They have a grip safety, a firing pin block and a trigger safety. Glocks >don't have a grip safety. >2. They are single action. Glocks are double action only, sort of. >3. They point and shoot more like a 1911 than any similar gun I've tried. Just out of curiosity, have you had any experience with SIG/Sauer's and if so, your opinion? They seem to be getting a lot of publicity lately (a lot of TV Ad placements etc.). Is it just that (ie. ad $$$) or are they actually worth something? ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > Just out of curiosity, have you had any experience with SIG/Sauer's and > if so, > your opinion? They seem to be getting a lot of publicity lately (a lot of > TV Ad > placements etc.). Is it just that (ie. ad $$$) or are they actually worth > something? Not much direct experience. When I first considered a 9mm, back when the US Government picked the Beretta 92F/M9 as it's issue weapon, I looked at both the Beretta and the Sig Sauer. They were the first and second most respected guns in that market. As I recall, the Sig had a slight edge. Interestingly, even back then, they were the blocky gun design that's so common today. The Beretta, on the other hand, was an open top design, smooth and rounded. I chose the Beretta and still have that gun today. I recently purchased another one, this time a stainless 92FS Vertec, which has a grip more like that on a 1911. It's not as good a gun as my original Italian made Beretta is. I know people with Sigs, several of whom are part of this group. The all seem quite pleased with their choice of weapons. I know of no reason they shouldn't be. Sigs still have a very good reputation. It's hard to compare a Sig with Glocks and XDs with better known guns. As I recall, my last Beretta cost around $700. I assume the Sigs are similarly priced. My Colt Gold Cup was closer to $1,000 and my Kimber .40 was well over $1,000, even my Colt Government Model .380 is supposedly worth something around $6 or 700 used. The XDs were $460 each, new in the box, including a two mag holder, tow mags, a mag loading device, holster, cleaning brush and hard case. Lee >It's hard to compare a Sig with Glocks and XDs with better known guns. As I >recall, my last Beretta cost around $700. I assume the Sigs are similarly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >including a two mag holder, tow mags, a mag loading device, holster, >cleaning brush and hard case. Thanks much. I was curious because as I said, I see a lot of "product placements" Ads for SIGs on TV these days (NCIS etc.), and I know of a few local agencies which are going to them. ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > >It's hard to compare a Sig with Glocks and XDs with better known guns. As I > >recall, my last Beretta cost around $700. I assume the Sigs are similarly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Ads for SIGs on TV these days (NCIS etc.), and I know of a few local agencies which > are going to them. The State Patrol here just dumped all their 92 Beretta's (much to the joy of the troopers) and bought SIG P220's. A couple other cops I know also spent their own money to buy them. Expect to pay between $850 and $1200 depending upon the model. You can spend more and less, but I don't think you can do better for a DA semiauto .45. But, I am a hard corps 1911 fan... >The State Patrol here just dumped all their 92 Beretta's (much to the joy of >the troopers) and bought SIG P220's. Back when I was an EMT, I recall trhe NJ State Troopers at the time were packing H & K's. Not sure what they have now but I recall them wanting to dump them at the time due to problems with the grip mechanism. >A couple other cops I know also spent their own money to buy them. > >Expect to pay between $850 and $1200 depending upon the model. Their website lists the P226 series and similar models at $853.00 and up. >You can spend more and less, but I don't think you can do better for a DA >semiauto .45. > >But, I am a hard corps 1911 fan... But of course. :-) I have to ask my sister (just appointed Lt. Col. in the NJ guard) what she's packing. ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > > I think that, and the full course schedule down at the range would be > > a nice graduation gift. > > You're the best judge of that, but it sounds like a plan to me. On the > other hand, a full sized 1911 is a bit much to fit in a purse. She's not looking for a carry piece. She's got her dad's fetish for big bores, and wants to go blow sh.t up. |
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