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Lee Bell - 21 Apr 2007 03:38 GMT
This is almost funny.
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In the wake of Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech in which a student killed
32 people, Dean of Student Affairs Betty Trachtenberg has limited the use of
stage weapons in theatrical productions.

Students involved in this weekend's production of "Red Noses" said they
first learned of the new rules on Thursday morning, the same day the show
was slated to open. They were subsequently forced to alter many of the
scenes by swapping more realistic-looking stage swords for wooden ones, a
change that many students said was neither a necessary nor a useful response
to the tragedy at Virginia Tech.

According to students involved in the production, Trachtenberg has banned
the use of some stage weapons in all of the University's theatrical
productions. While shows will be permitted to use obviously fake plastic
weapons, students said, those that hoped to stage more realistic scenes of
stage violence have had to make changes to their props.

Trachtenberg could not be reached for comment Thursday night.

"Red Noses" director Sarah Holdren '08 said she first heard about the
changes in a phone call from a friend as she arrived at the Off-Broadway
Theater on Thursday morning. At the theater, technical director Jim
Brewczynski told her about the new regulations. The pair then met with
Trachtenberg, who initially wanted no stage weapons to be used in the show,
Holdren said, though she later agreed to permit the use of obviously fake
weapons.

In a speech made before last night's opening show of "Red Noses," Holdren
said that Trachtenberg's decision to force the production to use wooden
swords instead of metal swords will do little to stem violence in the world.

"Calling for an end to violence onstage does not solve the world's
suffering: It merely sweeps it under the rug, turning theater - in the words
of this very play - into 'creamy bon-bons' instead of 'solid fare' for a
thinking, feeling audience," she said. "Here at Yale, sensitivity and
political correctness have become censorship in this time of vital need for
serious artistic expression."

Holdren said she is primarily worried about the University's decision to
place limitations on art, rather than the specific inconvenience to her
production.

"I completely understand that the University needs to respond to the
tragedy, but I think it is wrong to conflate sensitivity and censorship,"
she said in an interview. "It is wrong to assume that any theater that deals
with tragic matter is sort of on the side of those things or out to get
people; they're not - they're out to help people through things like this. I
want my show and all shows to be uplifting to people. That's why I'm upset
about this - it's not because my props were taken - it's about imposing
petty restrictions on art as the right way to solve the problems in the
world."

Brandon Berger '10, who plays a swordsman in the show, said the switch to an
obviously fake wooden sword has changed the nature of his part from an
"evil, errant knight to a petulant child."

"They're trying to make an appropriate gesture, but they did it in an
inappropriate way - they've neutered the play," he said. "The violence is
important to what it actually means. What these types of actions do is very
central - it is not gratuitous."

Susie Kemple '08, an actress in the show, said Trachtenberg's way of dealing
with the Virginia Tech massacre was not beneficial to the students' own
mourning process.

"It is problematic because all of us were incredibly shocked by the events
at Virginia Tech," Kemple said. "We turn to extracurriculars in our grief
[and] the Yale administration makes the healing more difficult. None of the
shows are about massive gun violence - this show is about showing and
explaining the human experience."

Berger also said he finds the ruling inconsistent because forms of stage
violence that do not involve weapons - such as hangings - are still
permitted.

"Red Noses" will end its run Saturday night.
chilly - 21 Apr 2007 10:36 GMT
> This is almost funny.
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> In the wake of Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech in which a student killed
> 32 people, Dean of Student Affairs Betty Trachtenberg has limited the use of
> stage weapons in theatrical productions.

(snip)

A silly knee-jerk reaction.  I can only think that Trachtenberg must be in
shock and therefore, not thinking clearly.

On the other hand, it is unfortunate that a scientist/engineer that spent 14
years at NASA just happened to have a gun, as was his right.
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 21 Apr 2007 12:20 GMT
>> This is almost funny.
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> 14
> years at NASA just happened to have a gun, as was his right.

 Or he coulda had a drink, as most of us do.

 It's our right, with an alcohol related traffic death every 31 minutes.
chilly - 21 Apr 2007 17:20 GMT
> > A silly knee-jerk reaction.  I can only think that Trachtenberg must be in
> > shock and therefore, not thinking clearly.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>   Or he coulda had a drink, as most of us do.

It was breaking news when I saw it last night on CNN.  Has it turned out
that he was drunk too?

>   It's our right, with an alcohol related traffic death every 31 minutes.

Interesting.  Good thing you are above that sort of thing.
Grumman-581 - 21 Apr 2007 18:32 GMT
> It was breaking news when I saw it last night on CNN.  Has it turned out
> that he was drunk too?

I heard that they had just got back from Heartbreakers and he was
pissed that their lunch period was too short for him to get a lap
dance...
Scott - 21 Apr 2007 21:05 GMT
> Interesting.  Good thing you are above that sort of thing.

From the Queen of the Cheap Shots.

We all know you are above that sort of thing, eh? Glass houses and all.

Just so you know how big an a.s you are being, the last two times Pops was
here none of us had a drink.

He hasn't been home in more than a month, and he cant drink within 24 hours
of operating his truck, by law.

Take another cheap shot, from a different angle.
Danlw - 23 Apr 2007 04:52 GMT
>> Interesting.  Good thing you are above that sort of thing.
>
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>
> Take another cheap shot, from a different angle.

I agree. While I could talk Popeye into a steak, no booze, though I tried,
as he had to drive. And, he is welcome back.
Dan
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick - 24 Apr 2007 11:50 GMT
>>> Interesting.  Good thing you are above that sort of thing.
>>
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> as he had to drive. And, he is welcome back.
> Dan

 It's just her nature. :-)
Scott - 21 Apr 2007 15:43 GMT
> A silly knee-jerk reaction.  I can only think that Trachtenberg must be in
> shock and therefore, not thinking clearly.
>
> On the other hand, it is unfortunate that a scientist/engineer that spent 14
> years at NASA just happened to have a gun, as was his right.

No, dumb a.s, it is unfortunate that he chose to kill, which anyone can do,
including you.

You are just stupid enough to blame the gun and try to simultaneously
slander 80 million free Americans.
Dennis (Icarus) - 23 Apr 2007 03:31 GMT
> > This is almost funny.
> > ------------------------------------------------
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> A silly knee-jerk reaction.  I can only think that Trachtenberg must be in
> shock and therefore, not thinking clearly.

Indeed.

> On the other hand, it is unfortunate that a scientist/engineer that spent 14
> years at NASA just happened to have a gun, as was his right.

And equally unfortunate that the police, NASA security, the FBI, National
Guard, etc were not there to prevent the shooting.
There were folks present but, sadly, unarmed, such that they could do
nothing to defend themselves.

Dennis
 
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