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Greg Mossman - 16 Apr 2007 01:37 GMT
It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
finger, but she's learned her lesson now the hard way.

Yesterday, while diving off Lanai (at Lighthouse), Janna was trying to
point out an eel to me.  She reached in to stroke its tail, and
apparently the unseen head was nearby and pissed off or hungry or
both.  I heard the scream, saw the "green" blood start to flow, and
grabbed her hand to staunch the bleeding and get her back to the boat
OK.  When we surfaced, her hand was flowing red.  A visit to the hotel
doc, followed by a trip to the ER, and she's now bandaged and enjoying
the Vicodin.

She ended up with some pretty nasty lacerations to her 2nd and 3rd
fingers on the right hand.  ER Doc didn't want to put in too many
stitches as he feared that might increase the risk of infection.
Apparently moray mouths aren't too clean.  He put one stitch in each
of the six worst cuts, but if it heals the way it looks now, she'll
end up with nasty scars.  No nerve or tendon damage, though the doc
warned that she might end up needing some PT to gain full use of the
fingers and recommended we find a hand specialist when we get home.

I hated to say "I told you so" but did anyway.  Many times.  I think
she got the point.

I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.
Magilla - 16 Apr 2007 02:30 GMT
> It finally happened.

   A real gentleman would have blocked the offender, taking the bite
himself.   ;-)

   Anyways, hope Janna heals quickly and isn't in too much discomfort.

Curtis
Greg Mossman - 16 Apr 2007 03:00 GMT
> > It finally happened.
>
>     A real gentleman would have blocked the offender, taking the bite
> himself.   ;-)

That would have been tough, even for a real gentleman.  Had you been
around, though, you could have smashed open the coral head and we
could have beaten the eel to death.

>     Anyways, hope Janna heals quickly and isn't in too much discomfort.

Thanks.  I'll pass that on to her.  She was feeling more sorry than
anything, apologizing for ending my dive, apologizing for getting
blood all over the boat.  I asked, "what are you apologizing for,
you're the one with the shredded hand?"  She wanted me to go on the
second dive.  At least I was gentleman enough to pass on that
(besides, it was cold!).  Fortunately the captain thought it a bit
rough to do a second dive off Lanai and headed back to Maui, dropping
us off on the way to the second dive site.  I think he just didn't
want any more blood on his boat.

She also apologized to my cousin for missing her pre-wedding BBQ
yesterday afternoon, but her apologies were again quickly dismissed.
Even my family isn't selfish enough to hold that against her.  We'll
make the wedding today after I dress up Janna's hand with some stylish
gauze and tape.

I really just hope she'll reform her eel-poking ways.  She still
claims to love the evil elongated creatures and I have little doubt
that she'll go back to poking as soon as she heals.  Next time she
might not be lucky enough to retain all her fingers.  Maybe I'll get
her a chain mail glove.  I wonder what the Bonaire and Cayman dive
nazis would make of that!
bob crownfield - 17 Apr 2007 18:13 GMT
>> It finally happened.
>
>     A real gentleman would have blocked the offender, taking the bite
> himself.   ;-)

real gentleman liberal may well be an oxymoron.

>     Anyways, hope Janna heals quickly and isn't in too much discomfort.
>
> Curtis
Greg Mossman - 17 Apr 2007 20:08 GMT
> >> It finally happened.
>
> >     A real gentleman would have blocked the offender, taking the bite
> > himself.   ;-)
>
> real gentleman liberal may well be an oxymoron.

You have to be a gun-toting, war-mongering, death-penalizing
Republican to be gentle?
Lee Bell - 18 Apr 2007 04:26 GMT
> You have to be a gun-toting, war-mongering, death-penalizing
> Republican to be gentle?

No, but it helps.

I'm a gun toting, war mongering, death penalizing Democrat.
Greg Mossman - 18 Apr 2007 05:55 GMT
> > You have to be a gun-toting, war-mongering, death-penalizing
> > Republican to be gentle?
>
> No, but it helps.
>
> I'm a gun toting, war mongering, death penalizing Democrat.

Yeah.  You're Democrat like I'm NRA.
Lee Bell - 16 Apr 2007 02:31 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
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>
> I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.

Like PADI, you didn't provide her with sufficient risk assessment skills to
keep her safe.  Unlike PADI, you tried.

Sorry to hear about Janna's accident.  Hope she heals properly and
everything turns out fine.  Feel free to tell her I said so.

Lee
Greg Mossman - 17 Apr 2007 20:24 GMT
> Like PADI, you didn't provide her with sufficient risk assessment skills to
> keep her safe.  Unlike PADI, you tried.
>
> Sorry to hear about Janna's accident.  Hope she heals properly and
> everything turns out fine.  Feel free to tell her I said so.

Thanks.  It looks like she didn't get an infection, so now it's a
matter of deciding whether to let it heal as is, or get some more work
done to reduce the scarring.  The local they gave her at the ER,
several "ring block" injections right to the bone, hurt her much more
than the eel, and she's reluctant to have to get any more.
Rod - 17 Apr 2007 23:22 GMT
>> Like PADI, you didn't provide her with sufficient risk assessment skills to
>> keep her safe.  Unlike PADI, you tried.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>several "ring block" injections right to the bone, hurt her much more
>than the eel, and she's reluctant to have to get any more.

Let it scare, it will make a great story when she is a grand mom
Dan Bracuk - 16 Apr 2007 03:44 GMT
"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
:I hated to say "I told you so" but did anyway.  Many times.  I think
:she got the point.
:
:I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.

May as well enjoy your eel.  It's not as if you'll be getting any sex
to enjoy.

Dan Bracuk
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
Magilla - 16 Apr 2007 04:16 GMT
> :I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.
>
> May as well enjoy your eel.  It's not as if you'll be getting any sex
> to enjoy.

   You will be bringing me a new keyboard to Marathon?
Adam Helberg - 16 Apr 2007 04:27 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
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>
> I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.

I hope you're not serious about your anger at eels. It reminds me of a  woman I was
buddied up with on a dive to the Coronado Islands off San Diego. All of the sudden
she started killing sea urchins. Back on the boat I asked her why and she told me she
was injured once by running into some sea urchins. Needless to say I never dove with
her again. And the irony is she's a pediatric nurse at the Children's Hospital.

Adam
kimber - 16 Apr 2007 09:30 GMT
> I hope you're not serious about your anger at eels. It reminds me of a
> woman I was buddied up with on a dive to the Coronado Islands off San
> Diego. All of the sudden she started killing sea urchins. Back on the boat
> I asked her why and she told me she was injured once by running into some
> sea urchins. Needless to say I never dove with her again. And the irony is
> she's a pediatric nurse at the Children's Hospital.

Not the most politically correct thing to admit --- but when we would dive
down in the Coronado's Islands, we too would break open the urchins and feed
them to the Garibaldi and Seniority fish.  Urchin here are taking over and
killing off the kelp population in many areas --- so I feel no guilt in
crushing a few to feed the other guys!

Kimber

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Kula - 16 Apr 2007 14:21 GMT
> Not the most politically correct thing to admit --- but when we would dive
> down in the Coronado's Islands, we too would break open the urchins and
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>
> Kimber

Sea Urchins eat kelp?  Then what do they eat when they're in Hawaii?
JOF - 16 Apr 2007 15:54 GMT
> Sea Urchins eat kelp?  Then what do they eat when they're in Hawaii?

Californians?

JF
Dennis (Icarus) - 16 Apr 2007 18:41 GMT
> > Not the most politically correct thing to admit --- but when we would dive
> > down in the Coronado's Islands, we too would break open the urchins and
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>
> Sea Urchins eat kelp?  Then what do they eat when they're in Hawaii?

Other things?

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/invertebrates/echinoderm/Seaurchin.shtml
Diet: Sea urchins eat plant and animal matter, including kelp, decaying
matter, algae, dead fish, sponges, mussels, and barnacles

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Grumman-581 - 16 Apr 2007 19:32 GMT
> Sea Urchins eat kelp?  Then what do they eat when they're in Hawaii?

Just like bears... Things that move slower than they do...
RayC - 16 Apr 2007 16:41 GMT
Adam Helberg wrote:>
> I hope you're not serious about your anger at eels. It reminds me of a  woman I was
> buddied up with on a dive to the Coronado Islands off San Diego. All of the sudden
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>
> Adam

Hmmm    Just kill urchins because one once hurt her!  Man ... I sure
hope a kid doesn't bite her!!

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Grumman-581 - 16 Apr 2007 19:29 GMT
> Hmmm    Just kill urchins because one once hurt her!  Man ... I sure
> hope a kid doesn't bite her!!

Well, I kill fireants because I was once bit by one...

OK, maybe more than just *once*...
Rod - 17 Apr 2007 23:19 GMT
>Adam Helberg wrote:>
>> I hope you're not serious about your anger at eels. It reminds me of a  woman I was
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Hmmm    Just kill urchins because one once hurt her!  Man ... I sure
>hope a kid doesn't bite her!!

Why ? you got a problem with veal ?
Grumman-581 - 18 Apr 2007 09:37 GMT
> Why ? you got a problem with veal ?

Nice try for a joke, but a "kid" is a goat... Veal is from a young
calf (i.e. bovine)... Oh well, what can one expect from a culture that
came up with Kapusniak, eh?
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 07:55 GMT
>> Why ? you got a problem with veal ?
>
> Nice try for a joke, but a "kid" is a goat... Veal is from a young
> calf (i.e. bovine)... Oh well, what can one expect from a culture that
> came up with Kapusniak, eh?

what's wrong with kapusniak done well it's lovely and really nice meal on a
cold winters night
Grumman-581 - 19 Apr 2007 09:29 GMT
> what's wrong with kapusniak done well it's lovely and really nice meal on a
> cold winters night

Awh, come on... Sour cabbage soup?  Hell, it just *sounds*
disgusting...

Cold winter nights are when you make some chili...
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 09:48 GMT
>> what's wrong with kapusniak done well it's lovely and really nice meal on
>> a
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>
> Cold winter nights are when you make some chili...

the Polish over on the Eastern border aren't into chilli afaik ( didn't see
it on the menu ). The kapusniak with dumplings was lovely after hiking
through the snow eaten in a little pub in front of an open fire wash down
with a few beers.

Atmosphere probably had a lot to do with it
Grumman-581 - 19 Apr 2007 10:03 GMT
> the Polish over on the Eastern border aren't into chilli afaik ( didn't see
> it on the menu ). The kapusniak with dumplings was lovely after hiking
> through the snow eaten in a little pub in front of an open fire wash down
> with a few beers.
>
> Atmosphere probably had a lot to do with it

I suspect that the 'atmosphere' created after eating sour cabbage is
similar to that created after eating chili with beans... <grin>
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 10:31 GMT
>> the Polish over on the Eastern border aren't into chilli afaik ( didn't
>> see
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> I suspect that the 'atmosphere' created after eating sour cabbage is
> similar to that created after eating chili with beans... <grin>

don't sit to close to the open fire
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 10:05 GMT
> >> what's wrong with kapusniak done well it's lovely and really nice meal on
> >> a
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> through the snow eaten in a little pub in front of an open fire wash down
> with a few beers.

??????????????  - just curious

> Atmosphere probably had a lot to do with it
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 10:31 GMT
>> >> what's wrong with kapusniak done well it's lovely and really nice meal
>> >> on
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>
> ??????????????  - just curious

about
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 10:54 GMT
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> about

your story.
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 11:21 GMT
>> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> your story.

Spent some time doing day walks in the Promsel region of Poland. Stayed in
some local pubs Gasthof type accommodation and used to eat local sauerkraut
and dumpling soup. Cheap, filling and warming. Travel over in there winter
as my wife is a teacher and those are our long holidays
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 11:46 GMT
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> and dumpling soup. Cheap, filling and warming. Travel over in there winter
> as my wife is a teacher and those are our long holidays

still confused  Promsel????  There is no such region in Poland
Matthias Voss - 19 Apr 2007 12:09 GMT
>><janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> still confused  Promsel????  There is no such region in Poland

Pommern?
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 17:47 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> Pommern?

Are you kidding? In Polish it would be Pomorze and definitely it is
not in the Eastern part of the country.

BTW what is word origin of  Pommern?

Janusz
Matthias Voss - 19 Apr 2007 18:21 GMT
>>>>Spent some time doing day walks in the Promsel region of Poland. Stayed in
>>>>some local pubs Gasthof type accommodation and used to eat local sauerkraut
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> BTW what is word origin of  Pommern?

Don't know, just a quick draw.. Pomme de terre, because of
Huguenotte imigrants?

Matthias
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Apr 2007 08:24 GMT
> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> Don't know, just a quick draw.. Pomme de terre, because of
> Huguenotte imigrants?

Really long shot :-))))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomerania#Origin_and_meaning_of_the_name
In Polish and couple of other Slavic languages origin is quite obvious
and Latin version is derived from them.
I was only curious about German version of the name if it is distorted
thru centuries Slavic name or maybe has other roots.

Janusz
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 22:47 GMT
>> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
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>
> Janusz
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 22:54 GMT
>> janus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
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>>
>> > still confused  Promsel????  There is no such region in Poland

Sorry it is my German heritage ( and probably crook spelling ) coming out,
in polish I think it is Pryzemysl, know it? lovely C8th town, eastern border
near the Ukraine. SE of Krakow.

In the surrounding area there are some beautiful villages and great day
walks. Apparently excellent summer hiking in the Mtns as well

>> Pommern?
>
> Are you kidding? In Polish it would be Pomorze and definitely it is
> not in the Eastern part of the country.
>
> BTW what is word origin of  Pommern?

buggered if I know

> Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 20 Apr 2007 08:37 GMT
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> In the surrounding area there are some beautiful villages and great day
> walks. Apparently excellent summer hiking in the Mtns as well

So it was Przemysl.  Have you seen WWI fortifications?

Janusz
dechucka - 22 Apr 2007 10:24 GMT
>> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>>
> So it was Przemysl.  Have you seen WWI fortifications?

I understand some of the C19 fortification were converted and stopped the
Russians very very interesting iirc Lovely churches and nice walks by the
river
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 23 Apr 2007 13:15 GMT
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Russians very very interesting iirc Lovely churches and nice walks by the
> river8
Some? After Antwerp and Verdun it was 3rd largest stronghold of WWI.
The battles caused both sides approx.115 killed, wounded and MIA.
When  have you been there?

Janusz
dechucka - 23 Apr 2007 13:21 GMT
>> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>> river8
> Some? After Antwerp and Verdun it was 3rd largest stronghold of WWI.

very interesting, don't know to much about WW1 in the east as my
grandfathers served on the western front, one on each side

> The battles caused both sides approx.115 killed, wounded and MIA.

I assume you are missing a few zeros

> When  have you been there?

2002

> Janusz
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 23 Apr 2007 13:29 GMT
> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I assume you are missing a few zeros

thousands

> > When  have you been there?
>
> 2002
>
> > Janusz
dechucka - 23 Apr 2007 13:38 GMT
>> <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> thousands

must do a bit of research on it,  thanks
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 10:03 GMT
On 19 Kwi, 10:29, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:55:33 +1000, "dechucka"
>
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> Awh, come on... Sour cabbage soup?  Hell, it just *sounds*
> disgusting...

It looks that you don't know what good food means.

> Cold winter nights are when you make some chili...

chili? disgusting. It looks like digested once

Janusz
Grumman-581 - 19 Apr 2007 10:22 GMT
> chili? disgusting. It looks like digested once

Nawh, refried beans are what look like they have been previously
digested...
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 10:50 GMT
On 19 Kwi, 11:22, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 19 Apr 2007 02:03:05 -0700, "janus...@hotmail.com"
>
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> Nawh, refried beans are what look like they have been previously
> digested...

No. I has to be chili. Once when I was seasick guys forced me to eat
some and as I remember on the both ways it looked and tasted the
same ;-)

Janusz
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 11:22 GMT
>> chili? disgusting. It looks like digested once
>
> Nawh, refried beans are what look like they have been previously
> digested...

good chilli warms you up that night and than the next morning but at
different ends
Greg Mossman - 16 Apr 2007 20:43 GMT
> > It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> > going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> was injured once by running into some sea urchins. Needless to say I never dove with
> her again. And the irony is she's a pediatric nurse at the Children's Hospital.

No, I do like eels.  Still.  Sergeant majors and other pesky
damselfish are another story.  I try to smack them whenever I get a
chance.
Dennis (Icarus) - 16 Apr 2007 05:00 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.

Best wishes to Janna. Hope she heals quickly, and remembers the adage "look,
but don't touch!"

And if I know women (and lets face it, I probably don't) she's even now
figuring a way to make this your fault.
;)

Dennis
chilly - 16 Apr 2007 07:15 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
> finger, but she's learned her lesson now the hard way.

I'm sorry she's hurt and will have lots to go through.  Please give her my
best and I hope she can enjoy the rest of the trip anyway.

She is lucky that it wasn't worse.  A Belizean friend of mine, almost lost
his whole arm.  He's got some pretty nasty scars.

I must say, you are being charitable considering you are a sharkbite victim.

(snip)
Greg Mossman - 17 Apr 2007 20:19 GMT
> I'm sorry she's hurt and will have lots to go through.  Please give her my
> best and I hope she can enjoy the rest of the trip anyway.

Will do.

She had fun showing it off at the wedding (one of the guests was an ER
doc, so we also got a free consult).  Champagne and Vicodin is
apparently a good combination.

> She is lucky that it wasn't worse.  A Belizean friend of mine, almost lost
> his whole arm.  He's got some pretty nasty scars.

They have bigger eels in Belize.  It's colder water in Hawaii, so
they're all little and shriveled up.

> I must say, you are being charitable considering you are a sharkbite victim.

Being invulnerable, the shark bite didn't even break the skin.  And
I'm sure I've teased as many eels as she has, but my fierce visage
cows them into submission.

I almost got my hand munched by a spotted eagle ray on Friday.  Those
guys have plates much nastier than the stingrays of Stingray City.  I
was always afraid of feeding horses when I was a kid, so I have no
idea why I let the winged beastie munch a few mussels out of my hand.
Fortunately, probably again due to invulnerability, it didn't munch
any muscles.
Grumman-581 - 16 Apr 2007 07:19 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
> finger, but she's learned her lesson now the hard way.

Of course, she'll blame you for it... According to them, it's our
fault if they do stupid things and they get to take the credit for
when us guys *do not* do stupid things... So, is her new nickname
going to be "Lefty"?
Kula - 16 Apr 2007 14:08 GMT
Lana'i is nice, isn't it?  But where did you find a sushi bar?  Next time
rent a Jeep.  (Just kidding, I know you're staying on Maui..)

kula
barnegatdx@aol.com - 18 Apr 2007 12:16 GMT
> It finally happened.  I don't know how many times I told her she was
> going to get bitten if she continued to tease moray eels with her
> finger, but she's learned her lesson now the hard way.

- Saw a video of some guy who grabbed hold of a sharks tail.. -- and
( Yes..)

> I'm ordering eel tonight at the sushi bar.  Evil bastards.

- No need for helmets or seat belts;

- can't happen here..!

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