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Doctor's orders.  Make sense?

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Sheldon - 13 Apr 2007 16:29 GMT
This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
certification class and not to worry.  Just be very aware when equalizing
and don't let it happen again.)  As the books say, "Early and often."

Humidification protocol (it is very dry up here).

1:  Use saline solution on a regular basis.
2. Use humidifier (doesn't do much good as my place is fairly open (no
bedroom door).
3. Use Mucinex OTC and drink plenty of water.

Also use prescribed Nasonex to prevent Eustachian tube dysfunction.

Preparations before diving:

1. Continue to use saline spray and Nasonex.
2. One-half hour before diving use Afrin, but keep in mind if used
continuously it can be addictive.

I've already been through the additive route before taking up scuba, so I am
aware of what Afrin can do.  I still use it sparingly when I have a bad cold
with no problems or rebound.

Thanks.  And common, guys.  I don't need to hear "You shouldn't be diving at
all," or, "You're gonna die."  I have no problems flying or driving up and
down the mountain passes around here.
Jerome's Sock Puppet - 13 Apr 2007 20:28 GMT
> This is from my ENT who is a diver.

Your doctor is crazy.  You should bleed with leaches and then treat
with a dram of rum, or you're going to die.
Scott - 13 Apr 2007 20:46 GMT
> > This is from my ENT who is a diver.
>
> Your doctor is crazy.  You should bleed with leaches and then treat
> with a dram of rum, or you're going to die.

I think that would be a gulper of dram rum, swabbie.
Sheldon - 13 Apr 2007 21:27 GMT
>> > This is from my ENT who is a diver.
>>
>> Your doctor is crazy.  You should bleed with leaches and then treat
>> with a dram of rum, or you're going to die.
>
> I think that would be a gulper of dram rum, swabbie.

Well, except for the leaches I like your methods better.
nospam@all.please.net - 14 Apr 2007 02:05 GMT
>> This is from my ENT who is a diver.
>
> Your doctor is crazy.  You should bleed with leaches and then treat
> with a dram of rum, or you're going to die.

I don't know about leeches, but the rum can cure you.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 14 Apr 2007 21:57 GMT
On 13 Kwi, 21:28, "Jerome's Sock Puppet" <jerome.on...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > This is from my ENT who is a diver.
>
> Your doctor is crazy.  You should bleed with leaches and then treat
> with a dram of rum, or you're going to die.

You misspelled it - it should be a drum of rum ;-)
Medical leeches are a very good idea as they are FDA approved.Two
placed behind each earlobe should be OK.

Janusz
johnvonc - 14 Apr 2007 19:51 GMT
Contact DAN-Divers Alert Network at www.diversalertnetwork.org. They can
answer your questions.

John

> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
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> all," or, "You're gonna die."  I have no problems flying or driving up and
> down the mountain passes around here.
janusz_w@hotmail.com - 14 Apr 2007 21:50 GMT
> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> all," or, "You're gonna die."  I have no problems flying or driving up and
> down the mountain passes around here.

You'll survive a couple more days.
BTW how deep is your swimming pool?

Janusz
Sheldon - 15 Apr 2007 21:43 GMT
>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
>> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
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>
> Janusz

14'
JRE - 15 Apr 2007 01:41 GMT
> This is from my ENT who is a diver.
<chop>

Sheldon,

Listen...don't take this the wrong way...I do it too (I'm losing count
of books)...but:

You're over-thinking the whole Scuba thing.  Relax.  It's not that hard
at the level you'll be starting at.  Really.  If you have trouble
clearing, reverse direction and try again.  That's all.

I am happy to learn that you are taking it seriously because it will
help you build the right kind of foundation for later.  For now, though,
just go with the flow a bit.  It's harder to learn to ride a bicycle
well in traffic than to learn to dive, and perspective is important.

--
John Eells
Sheldon - 15 Apr 2007 21:44 GMT
>> This is from my ENT who is a diver.
> <chop>
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> --
> John Eells

Thanks a lot.
dechucka - 15 Apr 2007 04:09 GMT
> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Also use prescribed Nasonex to prevent Eustachian tube dysfunction.

Nasonex thickens mucus in some people . I wouldn't use it
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 15 Apr 2007 11:13 GMT
>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
>> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Nasonex thickens mucus in some people . I wouldn't use it

 -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about Christmas, to
the point I have a doctor's appointment about it.
Scott - 15 Apr 2007 17:41 GMT
>   -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about Christmas, to
> the point I have a doctor's appointment about it.

It's a virus.

Depending upon the factors such as age, smoking, drinking, autoimmune, it
can last 6 to 20 weeks.

We both have it too. Picked it up in Florida.

Lots of liquids, take multivitamins, and all the gatorade (or other soure of
electrolytes) you can stand.
Chris Guynn - 19 Apr 2007 15:23 GMT
> >   -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about Christmas,
> to
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> Lots of liquids, take multivitamins, and all the gatorade (or other soure of
> electrolytes) you can stand.

My mother in law caught a virus recently.  It basically turned off the electric impulses to half of
her face.  It kind of reminded me of that guy from the batman comics called two-face.  It scared the
crap out of us at first because we thought it was a stroke.  We took her to the emergency room and
the doctor prescribed some pills to help with the headaches and told her that it should clear up in
about 6 weeks.  Nobody has any clue where she may have gotten it because it's apparently very rare
and she hasn't really gone anywhere.  Fortunately, it's not an airborne strain.
dechucka - 19 Apr 2007 23:21 GMT
>> >   -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about
>> > Christmas,
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> and she hasn't really gone anywhere.  Fortunately, it's not an airborne
> strain.

sounds like classic Bells Palsy, inflammation of the 7th cranial nerve.
Herpes simplex 1 virus has ben implicated but there are also suggestion that
it may have a outo immune component. Hope she gor/gets better 90% do
Chris Guynn - 20 Apr 2007 14:57 GMT
> >> >   -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about
> >> > Christmas,
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> Herpes simplex 1 virus has ben implicated but there are also suggestion that
> it may have a outo immune component. Hope she gor/gets better 90% do

She's nearly over it already.  The left side of her face is beginning to respond again.  The doctor
is confident that she'll regain total facial mobility within a couple more weeks.
Joe English - 20 Apr 2007 03:25 GMT
>>>  -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about Christmas,
>>
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> about 6 weeks.  Nobody has any clue where she may have gotten it because it's apparently very rare
> and she hasn't really gone anywhere.  Fortunately, it's not an airborne strain.

Bell's Palsy??
Chris Guynn - 20 Apr 2007 14:58 GMT
> >>>  -Something- has turned mine into fuckin -epoxy- since about Christmas,
> >>
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> >
> Bell's Palsy??

I honestly couldn't tell you.  I just know it was some kind of virus.  I wasn't actually there when
they went to the doctor, so all I heard was that it was a virus she caught.
Sheldon - 15 Apr 2007 21:48 GMT
>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
>> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Nasonex thickens mucus in some people . I wouldn't use it
I've also seen mixed reviews on the Net with regards to Nasonex.  That's why
I'm looking for input from other divers.  Thanks.  Still hard to say no when
your ENT is a diver.  So is my pharmacist.
dechucka - 16 Apr 2007 00:06 GMT
>>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma from
>>> free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> why I'm looking for input from other divers.  Thanks.  Still hard to say
> no when your ENT is a diver.  So is my pharmacist.

give it ago and if this is the result consult again
Sheldon - 16 Apr 2007 07:05 GMT
>>>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma
>>>> from free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> give it ago and if this is the result consult again

So far it seems to be really drying out my sinuses so I'm using a lot of
"Simply Saline" spray.  I may use some Afrin before going in the pool
tomorrow.  My ENT says it's a good idea, and my instructor also likes it,
but says to make sure if you take any kind of decongestant to make sure you
take it so it doesn't wear off in the middle of a dive.
dechucka - 16 Apr 2007 07:49 GMT
>>>>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma
>>>>> from free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine in
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> but says to make sure if you take any kind of decongestant to make sure
> you take it so it doesn't wear off in the middle of a dive.

reverse blocks are a bastard. Get a block going down you can always come up.
Get them coming up and ... well your air runs out eventually. Having seen
someone with a blown sinus from getting a reverse block supposidly after a
decongestant ran out  ... not nice.
Sheldon - 16 Apr 2007 18:50 GMT
>>>>>> This is from my ENT who is a diver. (Saw him with a mild barotrauma
>>>>>> from free diving in a pool two weeks ago.  He said I should be fine
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> seen someone with a blown sinus from getting a reverse block supposidly
> after a decongestant ran out  ... not nice.
I hear ya.  I guess I'm freaking out a bit because I'm in the
learning/testing stage.  Once I'm on my own I can afford to try some things
at my own pace, in other words, try going down without the Afrin and other
crutches and see what happens.  As you say, I can always come back up if I
have problems, and I can go to a place like the Blue Hole to experiment
before I take an exotic vacation.

Right now my sinuses are clear, and I only suffered from rebound when I was
addicted, and it only happened at night.  Heck, if I'm willing to dive to
the bottom of the pool here I can test it.  Still suffering from ear fear
after the trauma I suffered.  Hopefully our instructor will get me through
that.  I just went to the bottom of the pool on my own assuming 14' isn't
very deep.  I know better now.
 
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