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Scuba Forum / General / April 2007Scuba & Scouting
We just started working with our older Boy Scouts (Crew) with regard to them getting their Scuba Open Water certification. Here is a Scuba forum, that has an area for discussing Scouting & Scuba http://www.scubaboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204 For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board has to say. It's a strictly moderated forum that does not appeal to the kind of people found here. Lee > We just started working with our older Boy Scouts (Crew) > with regard to them getting their Scuba Open Water certification. > > Here is a Scuba forum, that has an area for discussing Scouting & Scuba > http://www.scubaboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204 > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board has > to say. It's a strictly moderated forum that does not appeal to the kind of > people found here. 'Nuff said. I been banned three times, and censored I dont know how many. I finally gave up. Membership seems to depend upon who's a.s you are willing to kiss. Now, as far as the Boy Scouts go, great organization, been a great beacon in the lives of many young men, me included. Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys Club? My mom was the receptionist for many years, I used to use off time and spend my money to go work with them to make the Christmas tree thing happen, among other things. Beats the sh.t out of Hitler-Jugend, Bund Deutscher Mädel , Hoover Folk, Aryan Nation, Crips, Bloods, Mara Salvatrucha and all the rest of the poison of youth. > Now, as far as the Boy Scouts go, great organization, been a great beacon > in > the lives of many young men, me included. > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? I was for a couple of years, and did a couple years as a cub committee member. Curtis > > Now, as far as the Boy Scouts go, great organization, been a great beacon > > in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I was for a couple of years, and did a couple years as a cub committee > member. Ah-oorah. >> Now, as far as the Boy Scouts go, great organization, been a great beacon >> in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I was for a couple of years, and did a couple years as a cub committee > member. Scout and Explorer. > > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > has [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Eagle Scout here. Currently, I volunteer at the "local" summer camp when I can, am an advisor for a venture crew (the summer camp staff crew), and am the camping committee chairman for my council. My wife (Gold Award recipient in Girl Scouts) runs the council summer camp high adventure program, is an advisor with the crew, and is also one of two certified climbing directors in our council. > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > recipient in Girl Scouts) runs the council summer camp high adventure program, is an advisor with > the crew, and is also one of two certified climbing directors in our council. First Calss here. Ah-oorah. >> Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? > > Eagle Scout here. I'm an Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow, and the Pro Deo et Patria. > > > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > > has [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > recipient in Girl Scouts) runs the council summer camp high adventure program, is an advisor with > the crew, and is also one of two certified climbing directors in our council. wonder what council ? we are in the suburbs of Chicago - As I look out the window at the slight covering of snow on the ground that fell last night it's hard to think about Scuba and the lucky folks around the warm waters vs the cold lakes & quarry locations around the midwest. oh yeah - Eagle here - and our 16yr old son is Life.... stalled at his Eagle project There is a Scuba award (for swimsuit) but no Scuba Merit Badge. Not sure why not - the Scuba award is pretty comprehensive compared to other Boy Scout Merit Badges... http://usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/scuba.html > > > > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > > > has [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > wonder what council ? Buffalo Trail Council Midland, TX We own four camps, but there's only one that's "our summer camp" right now. We're working on changing that. From what I understand, our council owns the third largest boy scout camp in the world (behind the Black Forest in Germany and Philmont) at nearly 10,000 acres. It's also billed as the largest council owned property. Our other two camps are considerably smaller with one of them being an aquatics camp and the other primarily being used for challenge course activities. The fourth rarely gets used any more and I don't think that many troops even know where it is. > we are in the suburbs of Chicago - > As I look out the window at the slight covering of snow on the ground that fell [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Badges... > http://usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/scuba.html As far as I've been able to tell, it's a liability thing. It was only a few years ago that scuba was basically a no-no in the boy scouts. Then they implemented a "get-to-know" scuba program. Now, it's expanded to a special award. Someday, it may become a merit badge, but I wouldn't hold my breath (no pun intended). My Aquatic Director certification just expired and I won't be able to get it renewed this year. Ahhh well, maybe next time. > "Lee Bell" <pleebell@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 'Nuff said. I been banned three times, and censored I dont > know how many. Demonstrating once again that Scott is a pussy. > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys > Club? Eagle >> Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys >> Club? > >Eagle I wasn't in the scouts, but every summer when they had their jamboree near where I lived. Me and my firends would help the volunteer firemen put out the ensuing forest fire and help find lost scouts. > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys Club? I was a Chief Scout, the Canadian equivalent of Eagle Scout. Cam > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys Club? > > I was a Chief Scout, the Canadian equivalent of Eagle Scout. As if there could actually be such a thing. ;-) >> > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys >> > Club? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ;-) Damn. >> For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > has [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Aryan Nation, Crips, Bloods, Mara Salvatrucha and all the rest of the poison > of youth. Involved in the program since I was 5. Currently volunteering as a rover advisory (that section of scouting doesn't exist in the USA, unfortunately). Hands-down the organization with the single largest impact on my life. Bryan > > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > has [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys Club? I'm mom to two Eagles, and did my time as a merit badge counselor. * >> > For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board >> has [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > * The B.S. bring to mind the Hitler Youth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hitlerjugend_in_Colour.JPG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth The neo-cons among us love little brown shirts. > The B.S. bring to mind the Hitler Youth: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hitlerjugend_in_Colour.JPG > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth > The neo-cons among us love little brown shirts. What a stupid, arrogant, ignorant piece of sh.t. What were you? A junior fruitcake? The only fascists around here are you far left liberal moonbats. <plonk> > <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The only fascists around here are you far left liberal moonbats. Scotty, as usual you proved your idiocy. Fascism is extreme right wing ideology. With little effort you can read about it http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html to find out how close you are to it. Janusz > > <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Janusz I don't know much about Scott, but I can assure you that he is no fascist. > I don't know much about Scott, but I can assure you that he is no fascist. That's just Anusz looking for a rise. Cheap shots from the cheap seats. The liberal socialist left are fast, and blindly, becoming the newest definition of acceptable bigotry and fascism; http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson042602.asp for just one example. I am not the one trying to disarm the populace and muzzle people by constant attempts to justify the erosion of the bill of rights. > > I don't know much about Scott, but I can assure you that he is no fascist. > > That's just Anusz looking for a rise. Cheap shots from the cheap seats. > > The liberal socialist left are fast, and blindly, becoming the newest > definition of acceptable bigotry and fascism; give us your "definition of acceptable bigotry and fascism" or give up using terms which are too dificult for you to comprehend. to help you http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=9640 > http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson042602.aspfor just one example. Good example of neocon moonbat > I am not the one trying to disarm the populace and muzzle people by constant > attempts to justify the erosion of the bill of rights. FYI Bill of Rights is not only second amendment. Janusz > <janus...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1176460564.988264.68560@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > > <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I don't know much about Scott, but I can assure you that he is no fascist. Really? Janusz >> <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > With little effort you can read about it http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html > to find out how close you are to it. Indeed. > Janusz ...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of ... Marxian Socialism http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html In his original article, "Fascism Anyone?", Laurence Britt compared the regimes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet and identified 14 characteristics common to those fascist regimes. http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm WORD HISTORY It is fitting that the name of an authoritarian political movement like Fascism, founded in 1919 by Benito Mussolini, should come from the name of a symbol of authority. The Italian name of the movement, fascismo, is derived from fascio, "bundle, (political) group," but also refers to the movement's emblem, the fasces, a bundle of rods bound around a projecting axe-head that was carried before an ancient Roman magistrate by an attendant as a symbol of authority and power. The name of Mussolini's group of revolutionaries was soon used for similar nationalistic movements in other countries that sought to gain power through violence and ruthlessness, such as National Socialism. http://www.answers.com/topic/fascism As usual, Scotty took a sh.t and fell back in it. On 14 Kwi, 03:22, nos...@all.please.net wrote: > >> <nos...@all.please.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > As usual, Scotty took a sh.t and fell back in it. LOL >> I'm mom to two Eagles, and did my time as a merit badge counselor. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The neo-cons among us love little brown shirts. Stunning. > > The B.S. bring to mind the Hitler Youth: > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Stunning. Typical. Predictable. >>For the most part, we're not particularly interested in what Scuba Board > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Really, how many here were Boy Scouts as kids? Involved with the Boys Club? Not me. I used to loathe anything that involved joining up, and the idea of spending my weekends in a uniform and following the rules positively made me itch. Still does. > My mom was the receptionist for many years, I used to use off time and spend > my money to go work with them to make the Christmas tree thing happen, among [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Aryan Nation, Crips, Bloods, Mara Salvatrucha and all the rest of the poison > of youth. Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with the English Fascists? > Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but > didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with > the English Fascists? I dont know, you'll have to ask a Limey. > Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but > didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with the > English Fascists? I joined the Scouts to hang out with my friends and go camping. If you can translate that, however remotely, into brown shirts or fascism, you might wanna casually mention it to your therapy team. :-) On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > I joined the Scouts to hang out with my friends and go camping. We always figured that Scouting was something those city boys did to make up for living in the sardine like crowded city hovels... > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: >> I joined the Scouts to hang out with my friends and go camping. > > We always figured that Scouting was something those city boys did to > make up for living in the sardine like crowded city hovels... I've only lived in a city once in my life, when I was 44. On the other hand, you -did- have to read and write to be in the Scouts...? :-) On 14 Kwi, 19:30, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > On the other hand, you -did- have to read and write to be in the > Scouts...? :-) and they accepted you ? Janusz > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > > I joined the Scouts to hang out with my friends and go camping. > > We always figured that Scouting was something those city boys did to > make up for living in the sardine like crowded city hovels... 40°55'49.25"N, 124° 7'10.45"W Yep, pretty crowded 30 years ago... > Yep, pretty crowded 30 years ago... Well, considering the quality of the satellite images from that location, it's definitely more inner city than where I grew up... Hell, even now, Google Maps just shows a level 6 overview of the area... Your location is close enough to civilization to get a level 2 image... Hell, we were so far back that we didn't get Monday Night Football until the following weekend... > > Yep, pretty crowded 30 years ago... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > image... Hell, we were so far back that we didn't get Monday Night > Football until the following weekend... My high school football team had 12 players. Our Scout Troop was run by the metal shop teacher. > My high school football team had 12 players. Damn... Ya'll even had a spare... > Our Scout Troop was run by the metal shop teacher. Our metal shop teacher was of Polish ancestry... Surprisingly, he still had all his fingers... > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:13:10 -0700, "Scott" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Our metal shop teacher was of Polish ancestry... Surprisingly, he > still had all his fingers... with kids like you he had to be very fast and ....... lucky ;-)))) Janusz > with kids like you he had to be very fast and ....... lucky ;-)))) It was easy to find our metal shop... Just follow the trail of welding rods stuck in the ceiling... > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:44:58 -0400, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yep, pretty crowded 30 years ago... Where exactly was your trailer park? > > Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but > > didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with the > > English Fascists? > I joined the Scouts to hang out with my friends and go camping. > If you can translate that, however remotely, into brown shirts or fascism, > you might wanna casually mention it to your therapy team. :-) Un-f.cking real, isnt it? Anything American or remotely conservative has to be demonized by the leftards. Still not a peep in the news about Feinstein, who's scandal is going to make Randy Cunningham's money look like pocket change. > Still not a peep in the news about Feinstein, who's scandal is going to make > Randy Cunningham's money look like pocket change. Sure it will. "Last year, in meeting the Senate's financial disclosure requirements, Feinstein needed 148 pages to detail the family's assets. Feinstein is one of the Senate's wealthiest members, with assets in 2005 valued from $45 million to $105 million. She sought "the advice of the Senate Ethics Committee on her own initiative about whether conflicts existed - and (is) following that guidance," Gerber said. "That guidance indicated that, given the facts, Senator Feinstein could fully consider, debate, and vote on appropriations bills, whether in the subcommittee, committee or full Senate." The Metro stories also contended that Feinstein had "resigned" from the military construction subcommittee, suggesting she departed under pressure. Senate Appropriations Committee spokesman Tom Gavin replied Thursday that seven other lawmakers had also flipped appropriations subcommittees this year. "This is a process that happens at the start of every Congress," Gavin said. Feinstein left the military panel to chair the subcommittee that handles the Forest Service, the National Park Service and other agencies crucial to California. "Frankly, for California, it's a better opportunity for the senator, and she took it," Gerber said, adding that the claim that Feinstein had resigned from the military subcommittee was "just not true." http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_5672472?source=rss&nclick_check=1 > > > Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but > > > didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Anything American or remotely conservative has to be demonized by the > leftards. What about the no gays and no atheists bit? That's kind of demonish isn't it? Any group should be able to include/exclude whoever they want... until they accept public money which the Scouts of America do. I was going to say I wouldn't let a kid of mine be in a discriminatory group like that in but I just looked and apparently in Canada the Boy Scouts will let in anyone, including, oddly enough, girls. I thought they had the Girl Guides for that. Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership regardless of gender, race, culture, religious belief, sexual orientation or economic circumstances. Youth members are strongly influenced by the behaviour of adults. We need to be sensitive to the traditions and beliefs of all people and to avoid words or actions which "put down" anybody." Although as the hypocrite I am I do find it too bad they can't be allowed to have all male troops still 8-) > Still not a peep in the news about Feinstein, who's scandal is going to make > Randy Cunningham's money look like pocket change. > > > > Not to be controversial or anything (on Usenet? Perish the thought!) but > > > > didn't Scouting--the Brit version at least--have something to do with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What about the no gays and no atheists bit? What about it? > Any group should be able to include/exclude whoever they > want... until they accept public money which the Scouts of America do. cite? My understanding was that the only "public support" that the Boy Scouts received was from public institutions that allowed them to conduct meetings on their premises. Considering that these premises are supposed to be available for use by all groups (or none), I don't see the problem. Outside of that, I thought that the BSA was funded primarily through not-for-profits (like United Way) and public donations. We do receive some tax breaks since we are a not-for-profit organization, but that's not the same as receiving public money. > I was going to say I wouldn't let a kid of mine be in a discriminatory > group like that in but I just looked and apparently in Canada the Boy > Scouts will let in anyone, including, oddly enough, girls. I thought > they had the Girl Guides for that. Girls can also join the BSA, but not until they turn 14 and they can't join a standard boy scout troop until they are 21 (or is it 18?). Thay can join Venture Crews and Explorer Posts at 14 though. They cannot earn the Eagle Scout award (because they can't join a troop), but can earn the ranger guide award (you could call it the venture crew equivalent, but it's MUCH harder to get). > Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a > worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > traditions and beliefs of all people and to avoid words or actions > which "put down" anybody." It must be the French heritage. > Although as the hypocrite I am I do find it too bad they can't be > allowed to have all male troops still 8-) I always wished we could have chicks in the troop. YMMV. > > Any group should be able to include/exclude whoever they > > want... until they accept public money which the Scouts of America do. > cite? http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-506.html > > > Any group should be able to include/exclude whoever they > > > want... until they accept public money which the Scouts of America do. > > cite? > > http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-506.html Part of United Way funds used to go to boy scouts. Not any more; as I recall it occurred over either the scouts decisions on either relicion or homosexual leaders or both. * > > > Any group should be able to include/exclude whoever they > > > want... until they accept public money which the Scouts of America do. > > > cite? > > http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-506.html So, pretty much, he was just full of crap. That's what I thought. > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > I always wished we could have chicks in the troop. YMMV. I wanted to be a boy scout - I joined girl scouts. We did a cake decorating badge and a self-directed badge on skin care and make-up. I knew that I could purchase a nicely decorated cake, and at age 12 or so I was not allowed to wear make-up. Argh. * > I wanted to be a boy scout - I joined girl scouts. > > We did a cake decorating badge and a self-directed badge on skin care > and make-up. > I knew that I could purchase a nicely decorated cake, and at age 12 or > so I was not allowed to wear make-up. Argh. My wife was a girl scout until she got fed up with the organization in our area. Now, she runs the High Adventure program for our Boy Scout Council's summer camp. She's a certified climbing instructor, she's implemented 3 new climbing programs at the summer camp, and she spends her afternoons in the summer trekking over the 9000 acres the council owns. She can out-hike, out-climb, and out-survive most of the guys I've ever met through the boy scouts. Plus, she's a lot better looking. She is exactly the kind of chick I always wished we could get in our troop. > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > cite? Episode 4-01 of Penn & Teller: Bullshit! The show is being used in a current gun thread so I'm thinking it should be ok 8-) > My understanding was that the only "public support" that the Boy Scouts received was from public > institutions that allowed them to conduct meetings on their premises. Considering that these > premises are supposed to be available for use by all groups (or none), I don't see the problem. > Outside of that, I thought that the BSA was funded primarily through not-for-profits (like United > Way) and public donations. We do receive some tax breaks since we are a not-for-profit > organization, but that's not the same as receiving public money. My understanding may be flawed, like I said I'm going with Penn and Teller here. > > I was going to say I wouldn't let a kid of mine be in a discriminatory > > group like that in but I just looked and apparently in Canada the Boy [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > though. They cannot earn the Eagle Scout award (because they can't join a troop), but can earn the > ranger guide award (you could call it the venture crew equivalent, but it's MUCH harder to get). So they're second class citizens? I say the atheist/gay thing is too discriminatory for me to have anything to do with. To each their own. > > Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a > > worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It must be the French heritage. Not discriminating is more of a Canadian thing then a French thing I'm thinking. > > Although as the hypocrite I am I do find it too bad they can't be > > allowed to have all male troops still 8-) > > I always wished we could have chicks in the troop. YMMV. I see what you did there 8-) Sorry I always picture really young kids when I think of Scouting, And don't be saying anything about me picturing young kids! - Hide quoted text - > - Show quoted text - >> It must be the French heritage. > > Not discriminating is more of a Canadian thing then a French thing I'm > thinking. Have you ever been to Canada? >> It must be the French heritage. > > Not discriminating is more of a Canadian thing then a French thing I'm > thinking. Have you ever been to Canada? On Apr 17, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Have you ever been to Canada? Over 29 years now but I've stuck almost exclusively to Newfoundland, I think our public policies are very non discriminatory.... you think otherwise? > On Apr 17, 5:02 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > think our public policies are very non discriminatory.... you think > otherwise? I was just in Grand Falls-Windsor, we coulda hung out. I'm on my way to P.E.I. now. I dunno about -government- policies, but especially from Quebec east, discrimination of various kinds is blatant. When I got off the ferry on Newfoundland, all the American trucks were being pulled into the first scale house. The guys looked at my NF permit, said it was the wrong one, and charged me $150 bucks for a 5 day permit. Not having any choice, I paid it. My permit department later said it was a rip-off. Only American trucks were being pulled in. http://www.freealberta.com/anti_americanism.html I was looking for a recent article about people from Quebec unapologetically voted themselves 80% racist, but this one will do. On Apr 18, 10:47 am, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I was just in Grand Falls-Windsor, we coulda hung out. I'm east of the overpass so that's a 5 hour haul for me.... didn't get to do any diving did you? I hope otherwise you had a good time here, get any seal flipper pie into you? > I'm on my way to P.E.I. now. > > I dunno about -government- policies, but especially from Quebec east, > discrimination of various kinds is blatant. Oh yeah there are a.sholes everywhere, I was thinking more along the lines of PCness in public policy. And Quebec doesn't count, it's full of French people 8-) > When I got off the ferry on Newfoundland, all the American trucks were > being pulled into the first scale house. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Only American trucks were being pulled in. That sucks, but that's not discrimination. That's bureaucratic douche baggery which knows no race. No way to get it back? > http://www.freealberta.com/anti_americanism.html > > I was looking for a recent article about people from Quebec > unapologetically voted themselves 80% racist, but this one will do. Well FreeAlberta got a pretty big hard on for the states so I'll take that with a grain of salt. Although I must say for all the things that the United States is rightfully challenged on I really hate the popularity of blindly opposing all US policy has in Canada. I think our current PM is doing alot to help get along with the States while charting our own course. Hopefully after Bush is gone we'll be closer to being on the same page... or at least in the same genre. That poll one was pretty embarrassing tho.... thank goodness it was just Quebec and your numbers were a little high: in Quebec 15 per cent of respondents describe themselves as either "moderately" racist, and 43 per cent say they are "faintly" so. Another 1 per cent admit to being "strongly" racist. > On Apr 18, 10:47 am, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: <snip> > > The guys looked at my NF permit, said it was the wrong one, and charged me > > $150 bucks for a 5 day permit. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That sucks, but that's not discrimination. That's bureaucratic douche > baggery which knows no race. How exactly is only pulling over American trucks not discrimination again? >> On Apr 18, 10:47 am, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" >> <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > How exactly is only pulling over American trucks not discrimination again? It's a Canadian standard. :-) Long established and repetitively cited. > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > How exactly is only pulling over American trucks not discrimination again? Well as we don't get many trucks from Mexico or Spain the American trucks would be the only foreign ones so it would not be discrimination.... it would just be all foreign trucks get checked. > > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > trucks would be the only foreign ones so it would not be > discrimination.... it would just be all foreign trucks get checked. What about Canadian trucks who are returning? I guess you probably don't get many of those either. > Well as we don't get many trucks from Mexico or Spain the American > trucks would be the only foreign ones so it would not be > discrimination.... it would just be all foreign trucks get checked. Pulling foreign trucks over but not Canadian ones is not discrimination in Canada? It is everyplace else. I presume, then, you don't mind if we pull over all the cars in S. Florida with Canadian tags just to make sure that they're not doing anything illegal, right? Lee > > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > when I think of Scouting, And don't be saying anything about me > picturing young kids! Ahhh... the really young kids here don't belong to troops. They belong to dens and packs. You don't get to join a troop (even as a guy) until you're ten 1/2 or entering the fifth grade. IIRC, that's just about the time that guys start noticing that chicks aren't just cool dudes with frilly clothes. > > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > > Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a > > > worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Not discriminating is more of a Canadian thing then a French thing I'm > thinking. Whatever. I was actually talking about the surrendering so that you don't have to acutally fight for what you believe thing. > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Whatever. I was actually talking about the surrendering so that you don't have to acutally fight > for what you believe thing. Ah, sorry for being dumb. You are of course full of sh.t saying Canada does not fight for what it believes in (we're getting more then our share of body bags from Afghanistan thanks) but mocking the french is always good. Quebec is odd for being full of surrender monkeys against the military in most polls yet it gets the bulk of our defense contracts so that the feds can provide a nice big tit for them to suckle at and stay in Canada for a while longer. > > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > share of body bags from Afghanistan thanks) but mocking the french is > always good. I wasn't mocking Canada. I was mocking France. I was also, to some degree, mocking the Canadian Boy Scouts. Mayhap next time, before allowing your stereotypes to cloud your judgement, you'll actually try to figure out what the hell is being discussed before calling someone "full of sh.t." I won't be holding my breath. > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > I won't be holding my breath. Sorry, I keep thinking your bashing Canada as often happens in here and you keep making me look like an idiot. It is funny that we're both talking about stereotypes but can agree that mocking the french is good times. As Doc says in Tombstone "my hypocrisy knows no bounds" 8-) Again sorry for getting my back up. > > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > > > I wasn't mocking Canada. I was mocking France. I was also, to some degree, mocking the CanadianBoyScouts. Mayhap next time, before allowing your stereotypes to cloud your judgement, you'll > > actually try to figure out what the hell is being discussed before calling someone "full of sh.t." > > > > I won't be holding my breath. > > Sorry, I keep thinking your bashing Canada as often happens in here > and you keep making me look like an idiot. Well... if the shoe fits. ;-) > <SeanMartinFarrell@gmail.com> wrote in message >> Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a >> worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It must be the French heritage. That was bitter. >> Although as the hypocrite I am I do find it too bad they can't be >> allowed to have all male troops still 8-) > > I always wished we could have chicks in the troop. YMMV. Half the fun of camp was stealing canoes at night to go to the girl scout camp. <snip> > Half the fun of camp was stealing canoes at night to go to the girl scout > camp. I've been to the local girl scout camp. I wasn't impressed with 99.99% of the chicks I've seen there. I married the other .01%. > <SeanMartinFarrell@gmail.com> wrote in message >> Scouts Canada's new non-discrimination code reads: "Scouting is a >> worldwide, multicultural movement. We welcome people to membership [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It must be the French heritage. That was bitter. >> Although as the hypocrite I am I do find it too bad they can't be >> allowed to have all male troops still 8-) > > I always wished we could have chicks in the troop. YMMV. Half the fun of camp was stealing canoes at night to go to the girl scout camp. > What about the no gays and no atheists bit? Cite. On Apr 17, 4:53 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: > <SeanMartinFarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cite. I thought that was public knowledge but here you go from the horses mouth http://www.bsalegal.org/faqs-195.asp > On Apr 17, 4:53 pm, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I thought that was public knowledge Ahhhh...I got out of the Scouts -30- years ago... They don't send a newsletter or anything... > but here you go from the horses > mouth > http://www.bsalegal.org/faqs-195.asp And I do stand corrected. P. Schuman, If you would like to discuss Scouting/Venturing and SCUBA, please feel free to contract me. For three years I served as the Advisor for a Venture Crew whose main focus was SCUBA. We dived along the Gulf of Mexico in Louisiana, Florida, and off the coast of Texas (Flower Gardens). In addition, several boys in a Boy Scout for our District decided to try SCUBA and did several trips with us. Regards, Greg > P. Schuman, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Greg I've been in scouts and was a venturer leader for a while. I was surprised to see Scouts here in Lae, as when I was in Australia scouting was usually trying to educate about bushcraft, the other activities were great like canoeing and abseiling but it was the live in the wild that seemed to show through. Most people here build houses from bush materials and nails are only in a small way becoming used at all. Sawn timber is used for interior doors when available. Vines are used as ropes and I am still amazed at the strength of the construction. My house in the highlands has used nails but still has the grass roof and woven walls. Scouts here start with kids that have grown up families that have been totally self reliant in the areas they come. The whole survival in the bush is a moot subject. Money is short so they don't have much equipment to do many of the traditional adventure activities. Beats me what they do for activities, I should check it out. Homosexuality is illegal here, as is witchcraft and adultery. You can have 6 wives (you have to buy each separately) but you can't play up on them or you are taken to jail. Witches are usually killed by villagers and burnt or some are buried upright in a latrine pit after their eyes are removed to prevent them haunting the killers. Poofters are jailed for up to 15 years and dykes for about the same time. A playboy found at the airport or anywhere else is a go directly to jail, do not pass go situation. Play up with another mans wife and get caught, you must pay the husband about US$ 5,000 The government here receive US Government support and aid.  SignatureBrad Leyden 6° 43.5816' S 146° 59.3097' E WGS84 You haven't seen a stolen election yet, just wait for PNG in 2007. Correction it won't be stolen, it will be purchased wholesale. To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit (or laugh at my mistakes) |
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