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Scuba Forum / General / February 2004looking for underwater container storage dry for meds.
I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth that will hold a 2" x 4" object? > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? ziplock JT schrieb: > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? You may have a look at sewage pipes. Those used for fresh water transport. There are couplings, which may have end seals, rated for ( in Europe) 6/10/16 bars. "coupling" is a double ended short section of tubing, meant to receive to straight ( cut) pointed ends of same pipe. Matthias >Subject: looking for underwater container storage dry for meds. >From: "JT" x2020@prexar.comnospam >I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that >will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of >emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth >that will hold a 2" x 4" object? Otter makes dry boxes in a lot of sizes. http://www.youreq.com/protective-case/otter/otterbox.asp?bhcp=1 Dennis >>Subject: looking for underwater container storage dry for meds. >>From: "JT" x2020@prexar.comnospam [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Dennis I've taken a small otterbox to ~80fsw as a test and found that it flooded. You might want to give the particular box a try before carrying the inhaler down with you. A couple of additional thoughts: Chris' idea of a ziplock bag makes a lot of sense. The cannister itself is capable of withstanding the pressure, so as long as you evacuate the air from the bag, the inhaler itself won't crush and won't get wet. Inhaler dependant asthma is a strong contraindication to diving. If you need to use an inhaler at the surface immediately after a dive, you're putting yourself at risk of lung damage. You might want to think about finding another form of recreation, and you certainly need to alert any dive partners to your medical condition. Alan Alan Street schrieb: > If you need to > use an inhaler at the surface immediately after a dive, you're putting yourself > at risk of lung damage. You might want to think about finding another form of > recreation, and you certainly need to alert any dive partners to your medical > condition. Hi, can you extend on this ? I am curious because some years ago I took part in a study at our naval medicine institute, where lung function was measured in relation to prior executed decompression dives to 50m in a wet chamber, and in relation to provocation with different doses of histamine. To reset the effects of histamine, we got a dose of asthma spray. To my amazement, ventilated lung volume rose immediately afterwards by about 15%, if not more. Matthias > Hi, can you extend on this ? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > To my amazement, ventilated lung volume rose immediately afterwards by > about 15%, if not more. The risk is that internal passages in the lungs will close, isolating pockets of gas that can not equalize without damaging surrounding tissue. This risk exists during the ascent. No matter how effective the spray is, administering it at the surface is too late to avoid the problem. Lee Lee Bell schrieb: > > Hi, can you extend on this ? > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > This risk exists during the ascent. No matter how effective the spray is, > administering it at the surface is too late to avoid the problem. Absolutely clear. I was understanding that Alan meant application might be dangerous after an aneventful ascent. Matthias >Lee Bell schrieb: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Absolutely clear. I was understanding that Alan meant application might >be dangerous after an aneventful ascent. Lee answered before I had a chance, but he expressed my concerns exactly. For once, I was trying not to get too detailed, and didn't express myself clearly enough :-). It's not the use of the broncho-dilator per se, it's the physical condition of lungs that requires its use that causes problems. BTW, since you can't feel overexpansion injuries to the lung, an ascent might seem "uneventful" until you start coughing up bloody froth at the surface. Brian and Barb have mentioned that this is likely a troll. It may well be, but with the PADI mantra of "Diving is Safe and Fun for Everyone!" (regardless of any physical limitations) it could also be a case of terminal stupidity. If this isn't a troll, hopefully the OP will now understand why an inhaler dependant asthematic shouldn't dive. And if he does anyway, why he should write his old lady's telephone number and the location of his car keys on his tank. Alan Street schrieb: > Lee answered before I had a chance, but he expressed my concerns > exactly. For once, I was trying not to get too detailed, and didn't [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > he does anyway, why he should write his old lady's telephone number and > the location of his car keys on his tank. I think it's a mantra case...in need of demantrikation .. Matthias I use to dive four times a week until I came down with asthma. I was under the impression that one shouldn't dive with asthma. I recently had a physical with my new family doctor. I told him my situation of being very unhappy as a non-diver. I was told by my doctor ( which ran an asthma clinic for over 15 years in NY ) that if I took my regular meds and as an extra precautionary dose via my inhaler ( albuterol ) before a dive that it would insure I would have open airways and that diving would be safe. He even commented that it was rediculous that I didn't dive while taking meds. The reason I would like to carry the inhaler is for before the dive ( as an extra precaution ) and if a need arrised on a boat far from shore that I would have the meds with me for emergency use. Of course if I had problems breathing prior to a dive, I would not dive. This doctor also noted that he has numerous asthmatics that dive without incident by following his prescribed meds and taking the albuterol. He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths 40 ft or less, I would not recieve damage to lungs or orther health risk as long as I surfaced normally while breathing. He was even willing to provide a written note for me to supply to my planned dive vacation resort ( PADI Medical Statement form required at resort ). If anyone has professional medical studies that can contradict his experience and advice, please let me know. I don't see what he would gain by telling me it was safe to dive, but I don't want to run risks of health just for fun. > ?Lee Bell schrieb: > ?> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ?> > > ?> > I am curious because some years ago I took part in a study at our naval > ?> > medicine institute, where lung function was measured in relation to > ?> > prior executed decompression dives to 50m in a wet chamber, and in > ?> > relation to provocation with different doses of histamine. > ?> > To reset the effects of histamine, we got a dose of asthma spray. > ?> > To my amazement, ventilated lung volume rose immediately afterwards by > ?> > about 15%, if not more. > ?> > ?> The risk is that internal passages in the lungs will close, isolating > ?> pockets of gas that can not equalize without damaging surrounding tissue. > ?> This risk exists during the ascent. No matter how effective the spray is, > ?> administering it at the surface is too late to avoid the problem. > ?> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > he does anyway, why he should write his old lady's telephone number and > the location of his car keys on his tank. >I use to dive four times a week until I came down with asthma. I was under >the impression that one shouldn't dive with asthma. I recently had a >physical with my new family doctor. I told him my situation of being very >unhappy as a non-diver. I was told by my doctor ( which ran an asthma clinic >for over 15 years in NY ) JT - Your doctor may know lots about asthma, but that doesn't mean he knows anything about hyperbaric medicine. I strongly suspect he doesn't. Go here: http://www.diversalertnetwork.org and give them a call. They'll be able to refer you to a doctor in your area that understands the hyperbaric environment and can give you realistic advice about your specific condition and the real-world risks of diving. Alan I use to dive four times a week until I came down with asthma. I was under the impression that one shouldn't dive with asthma. I recently had a physical with my new family doctor. I told him my situation of being very unhappy as a non-diver. I was told by my doctor ( which ran an asthma clinic for over 15 years in NY ) that if I took my regular meds and as an extra precautionary dose via my inhaler ( albuterol ) before a dive that it would insure I would have open airways and that diving would be safe. He even commented that it was rediculous that I didn't dive while taking meds. The reason I would like to carry the inhaler is for before the dive ( as an extra precaution ) and if a need arrised on a boat far from shore that I would have the meds with me for emergency use. Of course if I had problems breathing prior to a dive, I would not dive. This doctor also noted that he has numerous asthmatics that dive without incident by following his prescribed meds and taking the albuterol. He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths 40 ft or less, I would not recieve damage to lungs or orther health risk as long as I surfaced normally while breathing. He was even willing to provide a written note for me to supply to my planned dive vacation resort ( PADI Medical Statement form required at resort ). If anyone has professional medical studies that can contradict his experience and advice, please let me know. I don't see what he would gain by telling me it was safe to dive, but I don't want to run risks of health just for fun. > ?Lee Bell schrieb: > ?> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ?> > > ?> > I am curious because some years ago I took part in a study at our naval > ?> > medicine institute, where lung function was measured in relation to > ?> > prior executed decompression dives to 50m in a wet chamber, and in > ?> > relation to provocation with different doses of histamine. > ?> > To reset the effects of histamine, we got a dose of asthma spray. > ?> > To my amazement, ventilated lung volume rose immediately afterwards by > ?> > about 15%, if not more. > ?> > ?> The risk is that internal passages in the lungs will close, isolating > ?> pockets of gas that can not equalize without damaging surrounding tissue. > ?> This risk exists during the ascent. No matter how effective the spray is, > ?> administering it at the surface is too late to avoid the problem. > ?> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > he does anyway, why he should write his old lady's telephone number and > the location of his car keys on his tank. ..snip.. He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths 40 ft or > less, I would not recieve damage to lungs or orther health risk as long as I > surfaced normally while breathing. ..snip.. Physiologically this makes no sense. The greatness changes occur during the first 33 feet. If you are air trapping due to an asthma attack at 40 feet, I guarantee you that you will have problems when you hit the surface. Has your family checked out his malpractice limits -- they may make a buck or two........ Buck > ..snip.. > He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths 40 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Physiologically this makes no sense. The greatness changes occur during the > first 33 feet. Are you paying attention Chris? (snip) My doctor says that during an asthma attack there is no air trapping going on. > ..snip.. > He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths 40 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Buck > My doctor says that during an asthma attack there is no air trapping going > on. Ask him to explain Reynolds number to you and ask him why, if there is no air trapping it is so difficult to exhale? > > ..snip.. > > He also stated that if I did have an asthma attack under water at depths [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I > > > surfaced normally while breathing. While trying to breath. My first attack were sudden onset and I had no drugs. It took me almost ten minutes to get my shoes on and walk the 30 feet to the car. Had it been parked across the street I don't think I would have made it. > > ..snip.. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Buck Ok, so now you guys have me really worried that this doctor is a nut, but he is still insisting that there is no danger of me diving with asthma. So, I will contact D.A.N. and see if I can get a doctor referral to speak with my doctor. I want to know the whole truth before I take the risk. Thanks for all the input and the pages on the DAN web site. Oh and by the way, I am not a troll ( some news group readers have their heads up their you know what ). I thought an experienced doctor that has had asthma patients diving safely for years and has run a NY city asthma clinic might know a little more than the average news group reader. Also the advancements in meds have come a long way. So now that you have me worried that he might be wrong, I'll look into this deeper ( diving with asthma ) by getting a couple of professional opinions and let you all know what I find out. Oh and by the way, DAN ( the "expert" ) isn't even sure if it is safe or not to dive if you have well controlled asthma. They say that there are not enough studies. > > My doctor says that during an asthma attack there is no air trapping going > > on. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > > > Buck > Oh and by the way, DAN ( the "expert" ) isn't even sure if it is safe or not > to dive if you have well controlled asthma. They say that there are not > enough studies. Basically, all known physiology regarding asthma tells us that asthmatic divers will all die. Fact is, however, that asthmatic divers dive all the time and continue to live. That's why there aren't enough studies. We haven't found any studies that find a good correlation between asthma and medical problems while diving. So the best advice you'll probably end up with (other than don't dive period) is that it's definitely a risk, but it's a risk that many asthmatics take into consideration and then continue to dive. All diving is risky, with the specter of an "undeserved hit" hanging over even the most religiously adherent safety stoppers and slow ascenders. Your diving will simply be more risky. The doctors can try to quantify the risk, but they'll all be making up numbers since "there are not enough studies". Good luck. Well, I'm a doctor of statistics so I can understand why DAN says there are not enough studies. There just aren't enough divers and asthma accidents to get a good biostatistical analysis going. The bottom line for you is the same as for me...I'm down there at 50 or 100 feet and if something goes wrong, I'm the one who has to find a way out. Let me add one other thought...do you have a regular dive buddy or like me do you go and pair up on the dive? The reason I ask is that if you have someone you dive with regularly and can depend on it could make a big difference. Unfortunately, my wife's scared of the ocean so I take pot luck. I'll add another thought...do stress and/or exertion bring on an asthma attack? The last thing you probably want to deal with is the complication of breathing when you're fighting the current or some other problem at 50 feet? On the other hand, if you can work out without any problem, that's a plus for diving. Dr. Yak > Ok, so now you guys have me really worried that this doctor is a nut, but he > is still insisting that there is no danger of me diving with asthma. So, I [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >>>> >>>>Buck > My doctor says that during an asthma attack there is no air trapping going > on. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Buck There are also no cruise ships in Cozumel -- it is just a vicious rumor. Buck Take a look at DAN's web site: http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=22 and the references there. You or your doctor can call DAN to discuss this in more detail. If your doctor is not trained in dive medicine, you might get a referral to one who is. Dr. Yak > I use to dive four times a week until I came down with asthma. I was under > the impression that one shouldn't dive with asthma. I recently had a [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >>he does anyway, why he should write his old lady's telephone number and >>the location of his car keys on his tank. > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? Why do you need to keep an athsma inhaler dry? It is a pressurized container encased in plastic, right? it should be fine if immersed to 60+ ft. -- An amateur built the ark ....professionals built the Titanic. Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Why do you need to keep an athsma inhaler dry? It is a pressurized container > encased in plastic, right? it should be fine if immersed to 60+ ft. Indeed. But aren't there some with a manual operated spray pump ? Matthias > Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Matthias perhaps. all the devices I have ever seen are pressurized. -- An amateur built the ark ....professionals built the Titanic. Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > > Why do you need to keep an athsma inhaler dry? It is a pressurized container > > > encased in plastic, right? it should be fine if immersed to 60+ ft. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > perhaps. all the devices I have ever seen are pressurized. So it depends on the balance between ambient pressure and internal pressure/stem diameter wether the button will be pushed. In built depth limit, it seems. Is this DIR ;-)? Matthias > Why do you need to keep an athsma inhaler dry? It is a pressurized container > encased in plastic, right? it should be fine if immersed to 60+ ft. Having recently gone through a battle with pneumonia, I can say that all the inhalers I used were pressurized as are all I've seen those with asthma use. > Indeed. But aren't there some with a manual operated spray pump ? Perhaps. If so, these would not seem to be a good choice to take along on a dive. They're not sealed. > So it depends on the balance between ambient pressure and internal > pressure/stem diameter wether the button will be pushed. In built depth > limit, it seems. Is this DIR ;-)? I would not think there would be an issue with the button getting pushed on a pressurized container any more than the button gets pushed on a power inflator. Lee > Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Matthias even if it were, it would only be "pushed" once at depth. these are metered sprays. one metered amount per "push". -- An amateur built the ark ....professionals built the Titanic. Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > Dazed and Confuzed schrieb: > > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > An amateur built the ark ....professionals built the Titanic. True. I forgot that. It's been so many years since I had to use this stuff as a relief for asthmatic hay fever. Matthias > perhaps. all the devices I have ever seen are pressurized. years ago I used to take cheezwizz to feed the fish just in my BC pocket up to 120ft emski > > perhaps. all the devices I have ever seen are pressurized. > years ago I used to take cheezwizz to feed the fish just in my BC pocket up > to 120ft Ohhh. So you were one of the idiots who made the fish at Bainbridge attack us innocent divers !! Right. You couldn't just take bologna, ham and cheese slices or crackers / bread with you in plastic baggies like the rest of us did. You had to take CheeseWiz. You a.s. LOL > > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Why do you need to keep an athsma inhaler dry? It is a pressurized container > encased in plastic, right? it should be fine if immersed to 60+ ft. getting water into the tube between the pressurised canister and the expansion chamber means the atshma medication blasts out a high pressure sray of water before the medication. Easy to fix, give the inhalere a shot in the air before you set to and inhale from the second. SO what if that wastes a shot of whatever is in the canister, Scuba is an expensive sport anyway, are you really going to miss a few shots of medicine? rhys > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? While diving with Asthma is a personal choice the percentage of fatalities with asthma medication in their blood stream seems to be far higher then the percentage of divers with asthma. (Maybe they didn't tell.) I choose to stop diving when mine took a bump for the worse. If an attack is triggered at depth there are any number of problems that might occur before you could reach the surface and use the medication. An air embolism is high on the list because air has trouble getting out of your lungs. Mike Painter schrieb: > While diving with Asthma is a personal choice the percentage of fatalities > with asthma medication in their blood stream seems to be far higher then the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > An air embolism is high on the list because air has trouble getting out of > your lungs. We may forget here that some rebreather divers may take a bottle of Auxiloson Spray or similar with them, just in case they get a cocktail. Matthias > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? Is it just me or does anyone else find this whole thing just wrong? Brian Edmonton, Alberta > > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? > Is it just me or does anyone else find this whole thing just wrong? It is not you at all. I simply didn't want to feed this troll. :) Happy holidays Brian. > Is it just me or does anyone else find this whole thing just wrong? The whole thing is just wrong.  Signature"We're going to rush the hijackers." -Jeremy Glick, aboard United Airlines flight 93, September 11, 2001 "JT" <x2020@prexar.comnospam> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that :will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of :emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth :that will hold a 2" x 4" object? I suggest a zip lock plastic bag. If you are worried about leaks, use two of them. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ Dan Bracuk wrote > :I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > :will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I suggest a zip lock plastic bag. If you are worried about leaks, use > two of them. I've tried ziplock bags, so far, with no success. Theoretically, if you get all the air out of them, they should work OK. Guess I've not gotten all the air out. Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :I've tried ziplock bags, so far, with no success. Theoretically, if you get :all the air out of them, they should work OK. Guess I've not gotten all the :air out. So what if there's a bit of air in them? All you are using them for is to keep the contents dry. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ "Dan Bracuk wrote: > :I've tried ziplock bags, so far, with no success. Theoretically, if you get > :all the air out of them, they should work OK. Guess I've not gotten all the > :air out. > > So what if there's a bit of air in them? All you are using them for > is to keep the contents dry. They leaked. Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :They leaked. Because there was a bit of air in them? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: > :They leaked. > > Because there was a bit of air in them? That was my conclusion. If there had been no air in them, there would have been no reason for water to enter. Messed my mints up something awful. Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :That was my conclusion. If there had been no air in them, there would have :been no reason for water to enter. Messed my mints up something awful. We are talking zip locks, right? How does air inside the bag cause it to leak? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > We are talking zip locks, right? How does air inside the bag cause it > to leak? Yes, we're talking about zip locks. I don't know. When they went into my pocket, the contents were dry. When they came out, the contents were a soggy mess. Beyond that, you'll have to do your own study. Lee "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: :Yes, we're talking about zip locks. I don't know. When they went into my :pocket, the contents were dry. When they came out, the contents were a :soggy mess. Beyond that, you'll have to do your own study. Study complete. Lee didn't zip the lock. Air inside was irrelevent. Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ "Dan Bracuk, wrote > :Yes, we're talking about zip locks. I don't know. When they went into my > :pocket, the contents were dry. When they came out, the contents were a > :soggy mess. Beyond that, you'll have to do your own study. > > Study complete. Lee didn't zip the lock. Air inside was irrelevent. Sounds like what I'd expect from your study. An absolute conclusion based on no observation or evidence, what is commonly referred to as a WAG. leak in the bag. double bag next time.... > > We are talking zip locks, right? How does air inside the bag cause it > > to leak? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Lee > > We are talking zip locks, right? How does air inside the bag cause it > > to leak? > > Yes, we're talking about zip locks. I don't know. When they went into my > pocket, the contents were dry. When they came out, the contents were a > soggy mess. Beyond that, you'll have to do your own study. Two possibilities (change that to three.) 1. Didn't get it closed. 2. cold caused condensation. 3. cold caused air pressure to drop and sucked in a bit of water. 4. (I lied) A bottom edge leaked. This seems to happen a lot with just a little use of the things. Otter Box, at your favorite dive store. Comes in a variety of sizes and colors. >I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that >will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of >emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth >that will hold a 2" x 4" object? > > > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). If you are asthmatic, you really should not be diving. I hope you warn everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to happen. Signaturejim frei http://stormwatergroup.com "jim frei" <jfreiXX@XXncSPAM.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in: : I hope you warn :everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to :happen. Why? If you were on a boat and one of the other passengers warned you that they were a fatality waiting to happen, what would you do? Dan Bracuk If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure. The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/ > If you were on a boat and one of the other passengers warned you that > they were a fatality waiting to happen, what would you do? Is this a shark feeding dive or not? > "jim frei" <jfreiXX@XXncSPAM.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you were on a boat and one of the other passengers warned you that > they were a fatality waiting to happen, what would you do? Not dive with him. and wait on the boat to scarf his gear when he doesn't surface. A diver with asthma, epilepsey, or other medical conditions that are contraindicative for diving has a duty to warn other divers that may be in the water with him, and anyone on the boat who may have to act as a rescuer. > "jim frei" <jfreiXX@XXncSPAM.rr.com> pounded away at his keyboard > resulting in: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you were on a boat and one of the other passengers warned you that > they were a fatality waiting to happen, what would you do? It depends on the person in question. I'd either pick another buddy and be sure to stay away from them... or I'd be right up close and personal to them. > If you are asthmatic, you really should not be diving. I hope you warn > everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to > happen. Ah, but what if you are an asthmatic and are also wearing split fins? Do you even live long enough to get in the water? <snicker> > > If you are asthmatic, you really should not be diving. I hope you warn > > everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to > > happen. > > Ah, but what if you are an asthmatic and are also wearing split fins? Do > you even live long enough to get in the water? <snicker> i believe PADI has a cert for asthmatic divers. > > If you are asthmatic, you really should not be diving. I hope you warn > > everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to > > happen. > > Ah, but what if you are an asthmatic and are also wearing split fins? Do > you even live long enough to get in the water? <snicker> Only if you can counteract the effects with your spare air... :-) > > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > everyone on the diveboat with you, that you are a fatality waiting to > happen. :-) I'm not an asthmatic, and I do that anyway. Aren't we all just fatalities waiting to happen? > :-) I'm not an asthmatic, and I do that anyway. Aren't we all just > fatalities waiting to happen? Absolutely, but some of us are in a bigger hurry than others. :) Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273 "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of what we know." -- Richard Wilbur > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? Baby's milk bottle. Take a look at a small Otter Box. Wayne www.springdiver.com > I am looking for a small water proof container to take while diving that > will hold my asthma inhaler ( meds used at the surface in case of > emergency ). Is there anything that seals and is good for up to 60 ft. depth > that will hold a 2" x 4" object? The Otter boxes claim to be good to 100 feet (www.otterbox.com). I bought one last week big enough to hold my digital camera and passports, although I'm not sure I'm actually going to be diving with it. Pelican also has small cases in that size range as well, but I can't find any specs as to how waterproof they are. Jerry > Take a look at a small Otter Box. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >>that will hold a 2" x 4" object? > The Otter boxes claim to be good to 100 feet (www.otterbox.com). I > bought one last week big enough to hold my digital camera and passports, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > >>that will hold a 2" x 4" object? I wouldn't trust an Otter box much less a Pelican unless I had siliconed the o-rings and tested it. Pelicans will work handily, but you'll need some counterweight. It begs the question- why would one take a passport diving- much less a digital camera. Leave 'em with the front desk or hidden in your room. (or pick better destinations) Back to the subject at hand- Is it necessary to waterproof a pressurized inhaler? Maybe not. It might just be oky-doky as it is- toss it in a baggie and find out! Ikelite probably has a ready made "bottle" of that dimension that they could sell you. They have many "blanks" that are modified by drilling and mounting of levers to fit specific products- kind of a one-size-fits-all product. They made them for light meters, flash meters, heads, etc. Try calling them to inquire- prolly not on the website. How about an olive jar? Worked for me when I was building my own u/w laser pointers. Toss this one over to rec.scuba.equipment Doc. "Robert "Doc" Adelman, C.I.D." wrote ... > It begs the question- why would one take a passport diving Oh ye of little imagination... Never heard of a "drift dive"? <grin> > "Robert "Doc" Adelman, C.I.D." wrote ... > > It begs the question- why would one take a passport diving > > Oh ye of little imagination... Never heard of a "drift dive"? <grin> Yah... but do you wanna drift into Cuban waters when diving the carribean? you might be able to get some cheap cigars :) rhys > Yah... but do you wanna drift into Cuban waters when > diving the carribean? you might be able to get some > cheap cigars :) Once Castro is gone and a democratic government is in power, I'll consider it... Although I won't need the cigars -- I don't smoke... If looking for something you can take IN the water, find a small backup divelight, remove batteries and use it as a pill container/mini drybox. Find the size that will let you store your inhaler You could also take a length of 2in id PVC pipe, and cap one end, and oring seal the other end with a turned cap Most dry boxes are NOT rated to 60ft, the PVC solution or a dive light without batteries would easily go much deeper, well beyond the 60ft you want However, most folks consider Asthma requiring inhaler treatment to be a absolute contraindication to diving. The risk of air trapping at depth and subsequent rupture of that trapped air to be a risk of sudden death or stroke if it causes an air embolism John >Take a look at a small Otter Box. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >depth >> that will hold a 2" x 4" object? |
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