Even though I have not received my certification -- yet -- I found the book
to be far more educational than scary.
Taking lessons learned from others who have made really, really, stupid
mistakes, the author passes this info on to you so you don't make the same
dumb mistakes. I don't even dive yet, and even I'm reading this book
thinking what a bunch of idiots.
I would say diving is like marriage, or any relationship. All it takes is
two enthusiastic divers to team up and start a great dive. Unfortunately it
only takes one of those divers to end a dive, and if you are a good "buddy"
you will pay attention to your partner's wants and needs before tragedy
strikes. Fortunately in a marriage you always have a chance to go to
counseling. In diving you may wind up at a funeral.
It's a very fast read, and I recommend it to anyone who dives or is thinking
about diving. Virtually all the incidents in the book were preventable, so
nobody got eaten by a shark or anything like that.
Sheldon
dechucka - 01 Apr 2007 23:18 GMT
snip
Virtually all the incidents in the book were preventable, so
> nobody got eaten by a shark or anything like that.
stuffed if I'm going to read it than :-)
Dennis (Icarus) - 01 Apr 2007 23:39 GMT
<snip>
> It's a very fast read, and I recommend it to anyone who dives or is thinking
> about diving. Virtually all the incidents in the book were preventable, so
> nobody got eaten by a shark or anything like that.
You may want to look at Chowdhury's "The Last Dive" also. Shadow Divers
recounts one of the indicdents differently.
Dennis
chilly - 01 Apr 2007 23:46 GMT
> <snip>
> >
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> You may want to look at Chowdhury's "The Last Dive" also. Shadow Divers
> recounts one of the indicdents differently.
"The Last Dive" is the book that I found so poorly written.
Lee Bell - 02 Apr 2007 00:53 GMT
> "The Last Dive" is the book that I found so poorly written.
I noticed that too. It was not easy to read, but the topic was interesting
enough that I forced myself to complete it.
Lee
Dennis (Icarus) - 02 Apr 2007 19:08 GMT
> > <snip>
> > >
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>
> "The Last Dive" is the book that I found so poorly written.
<shrug> I didn't notice.
Dennis
Lee Bell - 02 Apr 2007 00:52 GMT
> I would say diving is like marriage, or any relationship. All it takes is
> two enthusiastic divers to team up and start a great dive.
Actually, it's more like sex. You can do it along, but it's more fun in
groups of two or more.
> Unfortunately it only takes one of those divers to end a dive . . .
That's no unfortunate, it's critical. Any diver can end a dive any time,
for any reason.
> . . . and if you are a good "buddy" you will pay attention to your
> partner's wants and needs before tragedy strikes.
Depends on the circumstances and prior arrangements. ESG and I have done a
lot of dives together, but we're not much better than SOBs at best. That's
Same Ocean Buddies for those new to the sport. If Mike's in the mood to
ascend, he tries to let me know he's going, but is not obligated to. I do
that same. If either of us needs assistance, a situation neither of us is
inclined to allow, the one with the problem either deals with it himself or,
if suitable, initiates contact with the buddy, or other diver, that he seeks
help from.
> Fortunately in a marriage you always have a chance to go to counseling.
> In diving you may wind up at a funeral.
The only marriage counselor I ever went to, suggested, to my wife when I
wasn't there, that she should give up and get a divorce, which she did.
Guess who paid his bill. I'd rather drown that pay another one.
> It's a very fast read, and I recommend it to anyone who dives or is
> thinking about diving. Virtually all the incidents in the book were
> preventable, so nobody got eaten by a shark or anything like that.
Getting eaten by a shark is preventable too.
Lee
Paul Foley - 02 Apr 2007 01:51 GMT
Give "Deep Descent" a try. It's about diving the Andrea Doria, a
fascinating story and well written too.
Le fantôme du Parc - 02 Apr 2007 03:30 GMT
Sheldon a écrit :
> Even though I have not received my certification -- yet -- I found the book
> to be far more educational than scary.
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> dumb mistakes. I don't even dive yet, and even I'm reading this book
> thinking what a bunch of idiots.
Just think about how vain is to use a couch reader standart when
appreciating a situation well below the sea surface.
> I would say diving is like marriage, or any relationship. All it takes is
> two enthusiastic divers to team up and start a great dive. Unfortunately it
> only takes one of those divers to end a dive, and if you are a good "buddy"
> you will pay attention to your partner's wants and needs before tragedy
> strikes. Fortunately in a marriage you always have a chance to go to
> counseling. In diving you may wind up at a funeral.
True if your buddy is not a diver (pretty unbelievable), but if you make
a real pair, you both are going to check the other's equipment before
diving and then know how to rescue each other with a safe emerging
speed. I know it sounds a bit formal just when you end a read on a couch
but that's the way we all do things down there and that's how you
explain how few accidents are in such "tragical" conditions.
> It's a very fast read, and I recommend it to anyone who dives or is thinking
> about diving. Virtually all the incidents in the book were preventable, so
> nobody got eaten by a shark or anything like that.
Thanks God, courses given by no matter who (Cmas, Padi, SSI...) are no
fast reading and sharks are so few that tey have plenty of better food
than human flesh.
Olivier
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 03 Apr 2007 00:47 GMT
> Sheldon a écrit :
>> Even though I have not received my certification -- yet -- I found the
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> Just think about how vain is to use a couch reader standart when
> appreciating a situation well below the sea surface.
The guy is working hard, asking all the right questions, and has his head
on his shoulders.
Already practicing in the pool.
He'll be a top notch Rec.scuba Diver when we get done with him.
Who are you to point out vanity on his part when we don't know how -you-
dive?
Le fantôme du Parc - 03 Apr 2007 01:29 GMT
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick a écrit :
>>Sheldon a écrit :
>>
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>
>
You're pretty right, I was the vain one this time. Sorry Sheldon.
But just think how little help you'll get from a book in a diving situation.
I just pointed the fact that no reading replaces an underwater repeated
experience.
I'm a Cmas 3 stars, N3 in France, entitled to dive 60 meters deep.
Nothing like a reliable buddy, far more important than a shared
certification.
Olivier
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 03 Apr 2007 02:13 GMT
> Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick a écrit :
>>
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> like a reliable buddy, far more important than a shared certification.
> Olivier
I apologize for my rudeness, and greatly appreciate your apology to
Sheldon.
There are divers here with 40 years and several thousand dives, and some
waiting on their qual dives, and everything in between.
As reliable buddies go, I have around 700 solo dives, so you'll find a
great variance in philosophies here as well. :-)
Welcome to Rec.scuba.
El Stroko Guapo - 03 Apr 2007 02:20 GMT
> As reliable buddies go, I have around 700 solo dives, so you'll find a
> great variance in philosophies here as well.
Personally, I find about 150 solo dives makes a guy a reliable buddy.
YMMV.
esg
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 03 Apr 2007 02:48 GMT
>> As reliable buddies go, I have around 700 solo dives, so you'll find a
>> great variance in philosophies here as well.
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>
> esg
I'm a slow learner...
Grumman-581 - 03 Apr 2007 07:12 GMT
> Personally, I find about 150 solo dives makes a guy a reliable buddy.
That depends upon what type of beer he keeps in his cooler for the
after dive libations...
Danlw - 03 Apr 2007 02:54 GMT
> There are divers here with 40 years and several thousand dives, and some
> waiting on their qual dives, and everything in between.
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>
> Welcome to Rec.scuba.
Got a batch of 2" steaks. Wanna solo dive on that? :-)
When you headed west? Dan
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 03 Apr 2007 03:26 GMT
>> There are divers here with 40 years and several thousand dives, and some
>> waiting on their qual dives, and everything in between.
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> Got a batch of 2" steaks. Wanna solo dive on that? :-)
> When you headed west? Dan
I'm sooo close, it's sad (Bozeman- Butte and I-15 north tomorrow.).
Weather and a brand new broken truck are kicking my butt.
Hopefully, there's a chance I may come thru there on my way south.
Scott - 03 Apr 2007 08:06 GMT
> > There are divers here with 40 years and several thousand dives, and some
> > waiting on their qual dives, and everything in between.
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> Got a batch of 2" steaks. Wanna solo dive on that? :-)
> When you headed west? Dan
Ribeye's I hope.
Danlw - 05 Apr 2007 04:27 GMT
>> > There are divers here with 40 years and several thousand dives, and
> some
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>
> Ribeye's I hope.
Filet Mignon :). You getting to the dry side of the state, call! Dan
dazed and confuzzed - 03 Apr 2007 02:50 GMT
> Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick a écrit :
>
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> certification.
> Olivier
"entitled"?
So am I.
I'm not certified, however.

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Sheldon - 04 Apr 2007 04:05 GMT
>> Sheldon a écrit :
>>> Even though I have not received my certification -- yet -- I found the
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> He'll be a top notch Rec.scuba Diver when we get done with him.
<snip>
Thanks,
Sheldon