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Scuba Forum / General / April 2007PADI training CDrom crew pack
We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... Can it be used to install the software on multiple computers, and then just put on the shelf as a backup ? OR is it like protected PC video game software, and physically needs to be loaded into the PC while the training is used ? ie - can the software just be installed once, and the CDrom forgotten, or does it need to be physically passed around & shared for each learning session ? tnx - --> multimedia for pc --> this option allows for up to five people use the same study materials. these are available in what is called a crew pak. the product number for the book version is 60300. the product number for the multimedia version is 60316. they are available at any PADI dive shop as well as online. ok - I've seen this same product number - 60316 - listed as DVD and also as CDrom - Are there different product numbers for the DVD vs CDrom versions ? Is this just a video, ala watching the video tape ? If so, then what are the computer "reqs" to be able to either install or watch it ? disk space, CPU, memory, windows version XX and what "plays" the video - external mpeg player, or ?? > We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. > Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the product number for the multimedia version is 60316. > they are available at any PADI dive shop as well as online. > We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. > Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... > > Can it be used to install the software on multiple computers, All I can tell you is that the ones that originally cam out could be loaded on many computers. But that was some time ago. > hi - >we have a small group of older boy scouts interested in scuba. >have a question about PADI open water course crew pack # 60316. >how is the CDrom used ? what are the computer reqs, and is it >installed once on the HD, or do you physically need it to use it ? >How many PCs can it be installed on ? >What is the DVD # 70831, and how does it relate to # 60316 ? >Anything different between the DVD and CDrom versions ? >tnx for any info, could not find tech PC details on PADI site. >tnx - Phil >> hi - >>we have a small group of older boy scouts interested in scuba. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >>tnx - Phil All I know is the DVD version is newer than the CD version, and as for your other question: You are generally dealing with legal licensing (how many computers can the disc be loaded on -- legally). Most programs where the CD must be inserted to run can be overcome by loading the entire CD onto your hard drive and direct the program to that instead of the CD. On Mar 17, 11:40 am, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM...@interserv.com> wrote: > We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. > Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > or does it need to be physically passed around & shared for each learning > session ? What happened when you tried to install the software on multiple computers? > On Mar 17, 11:40 am, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM...@interserv.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > What happened when you tried to install the software on multiple > computers? I'm trying to figure out what needs to be purchased. My latest light bulb seems to indicate: text manual # 60300 + video DVD # 70831 or CDrom # 60316 that has text and video BUT I can't find out how to handle the logistics of each of the 5 students studying on their own, vs having a group session and watching the video or taking the reviews. ie - the question about what to do with the CDrom & can the entire thing be installed on EACH computer, or does the software "look" for the CDrom to show the video, run the software, or whatever.... The difference between having 5 students at a central classroom with 5 ID's, or having 5 students running the CDrom "installation" at home ? It's the logistics issue of "what will work" - so have not purchased anything yet.... On Mar 18, 9:05 pm, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM...@interserv.com> wrote: > The difference between having 5 students at a central classroom with 5 ID's, > or having 5 students running the CDrom "installation" at home ? > > It's the logistics issue of "what will work" - so have not purchased anything > yet....- Hide quoted text - Bearing in mind that this is diving, not computer stuff, have you considered 5 students in a central classroom with a an actual instructor? Assuming that one is available of course. On Mar 18, 8:05 pm, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM...@interserv.com> wrote: > <bra...@axxent.ca> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > It's the logistics issue of "what will work" - so have not purchased anything > yet.... What comes in the pack is the Open Water DVDs. There are two of them; module 1 and module 2 are on the first, mods 3, 4 and 5 on the second. They're not software that you load, as such, but rather movies that cover the information in chapters 1 through 5 respectively. I'd recommend watching them together - as noted by the poster below, with an instructor if possible. If you are using them for self-study or pre-work that's fine - but everyone is likely to get more from them if you watch them as a group, IMO. kari Here's the answer from PADI tech support - I STRONGLY suggested they add this info to the course listings on the website. BTW - after contacting several PADI shops, none of them could tell me the info shared below... ----- FYI - >The current/latest version of the PADI Open Water Diver - Multimedia comes on a >single DVD. This isn't a DVD that you can play in a DVD player and view [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >computer's hard drive, and then the disc can be put away for safe >storage. >The program is a series of PDF files that open with Adobe >Reader. They have been enhanced with animations, video clips and >interactive quizzes. There is no physical limitation to how many can use >the program, but the desire is just one to use it as most like to have >it on hand for reference even after their studies. The balance of the >materials in the Crew Pak are for just one learner, as well. >The minimum computer requirements are: >PC running Windows XP-SP2 or Macintosh running OS 10.3, >and just over 1Gb of hard drive space. Software required: Adobe >Reader (free from www.adobe.com) and Apple QuickTime (free from >www.apple.com/quicktime). >The Multimedia version Crew Pak provides all >you need for the academic portion of scuba instruction. The DVD (70831) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Centre may be found from our Dive Centre Locator - >http://www.padi.com/padi/common/dcnr_distance/default.aspx I can't believe Lee Bell is still here.... Alive and well from the Flame wars of 10 years ago.... Your fave Oahu CD! > We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. > Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the product number for the multimedia version is 60316. > they are available at any PADI dive shop as well as online. > We have a group of 5 older Boy Scouts taking the course. > Just a clarification on the PADI training multimedia CDrom... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the product number for the multimedia version is 60316. > they are available at any PADI dive shop as well as online. REPLY FROM PADI - -- Yes, you can put the entire program onto a hard drive and shelve the discs. Everything from disc 1 is always installed; it contains the program and a few of the videos. Disc 2, the remaining videos, the install is optional. If you don't install it, you must have it in the drive when you run the program. When you install it, the disc is no longer required. -- Multimedia Programmer/Techsupport -- DSAT Corporation/International PADI, Inc. --- Question on the previous version of the Open Water multimedia pack... I'm guessing that the previous version was on CDrom format vs DVD format. Could you, with the CDrom version, install the entire package onto the PC, and then shelve the CDrom, or were the CDroms needed to be physically used to run the video, text, etc ? I'm just wondering, because every local PADI dive shop we asked, said that the CDrom disc needed to be present to be used. The reason we asked, is that we have 5 boys that want to study on their own, and only meet once a month for their check dives & reviews... I'm reasonably sure that PADI expects a ratio of one CD sale per student. While the software can be loaded onto a computer and then kept as backup, I doubt that's what they intended. Since it's Boy Scouts, might I suggest that software piracy probably doesn't set a real good example? As PADI if it's OK. If they agree, no problem. If they don't, do it legal. Lee > I'm reasonably sure that PADI expects a ratio of one CD sale per student.\ They *require* it - atleast here in Asia. The only exception is if it is all members of a family, all sharing the same address. Even then, they "strongly suggest" that each member be sold their own manual, as people like having their own copy. Vandit > I'm reasonably sure that PADI expects a ratio of one CD sale per student. > While the software can be loaded onto a computer and then kept as backup, I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Lee hmmm - I guess the 5 user IDs doesn't really make sense then. Guess it should be 1 user ID for computer record keeping. or maybe at a scuba shop classroom, it works well. >> I'm reasonably sure that PADI expects a ratio of one CD sale per student. >> While the software can be loaded onto a computer and then kept as backup, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> Ask PADI if it's OK. If they agree, no problem. If they don't, do it >> legal. > hmmm - I guess the 5 user IDs doesn't really make sense then. > Guess it should be 1 user ID for computer record keeping. > or maybe at a scuba shop classroom, it works well. Since you've said nothing about how those 5 user IDs are to be used, I don't know. My best guess is that they are either for multiple instructors in a single shop or, perhaps, for multiple students in a single shop. Neither entitles someone to make and distribute multiple copies. Like I said, ask PADI if it's OK. If they agree, no problem. If they don't, do it legally. Lee |
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