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thouse - 27 Feb 2007 09:59 GMT I will be far more careful with my punctuation as this group is very sharp, but since I received so many lovely replies to my yesterday's post, why not ask if anyone has a suggestion for a good, 1-2 star place to stay on the island with a nice view and good island ambiance, B&B or self-catering prefered. Snorkel spots? Anyone have a must-see?
Greg Mossman - 27 Feb 2007 18:14 GMT > I will be far more careful with my punctuation as this group is very > sharp, but since I received so many lovely replies to my yesterday's > post, why not ask if anyone has a suggestion for a good, 1-2 star > place to stay on the island with a nice view and good island ambiance, > B&B or self-catering prefered. > Snorkel spots? Anyone have a must-see? The main snorkel spot is Lover's Cove. I've never snorkeled there, 'cause I'm a diver. I did snorkel in Catalina when I was a kid, but only off the main Avalon beach. I remember getting inked by an octopus back then, but that's about it. I didn't use anything more than a bathing suit, but I was much more cold tolerant in my youth. There's also snorkeling at the dive park at Casino Point, with convenient stairs into the water, and you can watch the divers. The Casino Building itself is a historic landmark, so at least walk over that way. There's a little outdoors bar/cafe right next door that's pretty good, and if you continue around the point, you hit the beach club which also has a decent bar/cafe for lunch.
After Labor Day, prices get better and some of the hotels drop their multi-day requirements. Still, accomodations are pricey for what you get. There are plenty of basic places in Avalon. Here's one site that I found in a two-second Yahoo search: http://www.catalinahotels.com/Catalina_Hotels/catalina_hotels.htm
On that page, I've stayed at the Glenmore Plaza and the St. Lauren - both are OK, with clean small rooms, only a block up from the main drag. The Metropole looks like a real nice place, but they've always been more than what I wanted to spend. The last couple times I stayed on the island, I rented a condo - the first time, in the hills south of town and the next time, in Hamilton Cove to the north (unless I have my directions opposite). The beauty of renting a condo is that they throw in a golf cart, almost a necessity for diving during the off-season since the air fill trailer doesn't stay open during the week and the only other way to get tanks back and forth to Casino Point is with a cumbersome push cart (or you can "steal" a shopping cart for Vons, which works a whole lot better than the dive shop carts, though they're noisy). Here's a site for the condos: http://www.catalinavacations.com/. You really do need a golf cart if you stay in a condo since it's a pretty long uphill walk from town. There are a couple of high-end B&Bs that include golf carts as well. One is the old Wrigley Mansion (the entire island used to be owned by the Wrigley family), but it's really really pricey.
There's a supermarket in town so you can do your own cooking in a condo. I have yet to find a really good restaurant in town, but there are certainly some edible finds if you keeps your expectations low. The Busy Bee is great for lunch, since you're right on the water and they serve prime beef burgers, but their opening hours are pretty random in the off-season. El Galleon is good too, for steak, but they're always out of lobster for some reason. Nick's Fishmarket overcooks the mediocre fish. The pizza place next door is decent, and has outside seating on the water, but they finally took down the most exciting thing about the place: decorated dollar bills stuck everywhere on the walls and ceilings. My best dining experience was at the Portofino Restaurant in the hotel of the same name - it's also a nicer hotel like the Metropole where I'm likely to stay during a future visit because it's pretty close to Casino Point.
Other than the snorkeling and walking around town, there are island tours to see the buffalo, flying fish boat trips, glass-bottomed boats, and even a submarine you can try. There's not much nightlife other than a couple seedy bars and movies in the Casino. I've never spent more than two nights at a time on the island since I'd probably end up bored to death, but it's good for a weekend.
dechucka - 27 Feb 2007 21:37 GMT snip
did they name the Catalina flying boat after this area?
Greg Mossman - 28 Feb 2007 02:19 GMT > snip > > did they name the Catalina flying boat after this area? Since the Catalina was manufactured in Southern California (Douglas Aircraft, San Diego) it's almost certain.
They used to fly seaplanes over to the island. My mom took me on one when I was kid. I think they gave up on them after too many accidents, since they were all vintage 1940s planes, IIRC, and the waters around the island aren't always that calm. The only other option at the time was the slow ferry, a 2+ hour trip. Nowadays they use fast twin-hulled ferries that make it in 45 minutes and for an additional $10 you can sit in the "Captain's Lounge" and get a couple "free" drinks on the way.
dechucka - 28 Feb 2007 02:33 GMT >> snip >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > additional $10 you can sit in the "Captain's Lounge" and get a couple > "free" drinks on the way. thanks for the info, didn't actually know where Catalina was so didn't realise it was near San Deigo
Greg Mossman - 28 Feb 2007 02:56 GMT > thanks for the info, didn't actually know where Catalina was so didn't > realise it was near San Deigo Twenty-six miles across the sea Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me Santa Catalina, the island of romance Romance, romance, romance
Water all around it everywhere Tropical trees and the salty air But for me the thing that's a-waitin' there, romance
It seems so distant, twenty-six miles away Restin' in the water serene I'd work for anyone, even the Navy Who would float me to my island dream
Twenty-six miles, so near yet far I'd swim with just some water-wings and my guitar I could leave the wings But I'll need the guitar for romance Romance, romance, romance
Twenty-six miles across the sea Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me Santa Catalina, the island of romance
A tropical heaven out in the ocean Covered with trees and girls If I have to swim, I'll do it forever 'Til I'm gazin' on those island pearls
Forty kilometers in a leaky old boat Any old thing that'll stay afloat When we arrive we'll all promote romance Romance, romance, romance
Twenty-six miles across the sea Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me Santa Catalina The island of romance Romance, romance, romance
Twenty-six miles across the sea Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me
-- The Four Preps
Grumman-581 - 28 Feb 2007 03:15 GMT > They used to fly seaplanes over to the island. My mom took me on one > when I was kid. I think they gave up on them after too many [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > additional $10 you can sit in the "Captain's Lounge" and get a couple > "free" drinks on the way. Or fly your own plane over there... About a 15-20 minute flight from SNA (John Wayne / Orange County Airport) in Irvine...
Greg Mossman - 28 Feb 2007 19:23 GMT On Feb 27, 7:15 pm, Grumman-581 <grumman...@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM- gmail.com> wrote:
> > They used to fly seaplanes over to the island. My mom took me on one > > when I was kid. I think they gave up on them after too many [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Or fly your own plane over there... About a 15-20 minute flight from SNA > (John Wayne / Orange County Airport) in Irvine... Have you done it? The "Airport in the Sky" is supposed to be one of the most difficult airports this side of Saba.
Plenty of people take their own boats over, which is yet another option (swimming works too, but there are sharks). I got the most seasick I've ever been sailing back from Catalina when I was a kid (my dad loved boats, but I somehow missed out on that gene), puking so hard I broke a blood vessel in my eye.
Grumman-581 - 28 Feb 2007 21:10 GMT > Have you done it? The "Airport in the Sky" is supposed to be one of > the most difficult airports this side of Saba. When I flew my plane to SoCal a few years back, I didn't think about going over there (for whatever reason)... I flew over to Death Valley and landed there... As such, I've landed at both the highest (Leadville, CO) and the lowest airports in the US...
> Plenty of people take their own boats over, which is yet another > option (swimming works too, but there are sharks). I got the most > seasick I've ever been sailing back from Catalina when I was a kid (my > dad loved boats, but I somehow missed out on that gene), puking so > hard I broke a blood vessel in my eye. Damn, that's a pretty good trick, puking that hard... I've had my share of being seasick and the subsequent chumming that went along with it, but the puking has never caused any actual physical damages afterwards... Congradulations on your accomplishment... <evil-grin>
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