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Scuba Forum / General / December 2006Murder in Austin
Had our 20th murder in Austin. A stomping. The two knew each other. In other news, we had a 65th traffic fatality.  Signaturedillon When I was a kid, I used to think the horse's name was Bob >Had our 20th murder in Austin. A stomping. The two knew each other. > >In other news, we had a 65th traffic fatality. This year that is? After all, I still recall the day (as a child) Charles Whitman did his thing. ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold >>Had our 20th murder in Austin. A stomping. The two knew each other. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > After all, I still recall the day (as a child) Charles Whitman did his > thing. Another accomplished Marine Corps rifleman, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. SignaturePopeye You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone www.finalprotectivefire.com >>>Had our 20th murder in Austin. A stomping. The two knew each other. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Another accomplished Marine Corps rifleman, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Ah, another fan of Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" (At least the first part anyway) :-) ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:39:00 -0500, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Ah, another fan of Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" (At least the first part > anyway) :-) Another former Marine meritorious marksman, actually. Kubrick was late on the bandwagon. :-) My rifle scores were significantly higher than Whitman or Oswald. >>> Another accomplished Marine Corps rifleman, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. >> >> Ah, another fan of Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" (At least the first part >> anyway) :-) > > Another former Marine meritorious marksman, actually. Oh, I knew that... I was thinking you might've recalled the film's direct reference to Whitman & Oswald: GySgt Hartman: "Do any of you know where these individuals learned how to shoot?" Pvt. Joker: "Sir, In the Marines, sir!" GySgt Hartman: "In the Marines... OUTSTANDING! Those individuals showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do.... And before you ladies leave my island, you will all be able to do the same thing!" > Kubrick was late on the bandwagon. :-) > > My rifle scores were significantly higher than Whitman or Oswald. Of that, I have no doubt. :-) Hey maybe you can answer a question for me. I understand the basic organizational structure of military units (ie. Squad ---> Platoon ---> Company ---> Batallion etc.) but the Marines also have something called a "Series," at least in Boot Camp. I was curious as to what a "series" is and how it fits into the structure. Apparently, the Army does not have this (my sister is a Maj. - soon to be Lt. Col. with the Natl. Guard). Thanks. BTW, were you Parris or SanDiego? (I assume Parris) ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 06:52:16 -0500, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Oh, I knew that... I was thinking you might've recalled the film's direct > reference to Whitman & Oswald: I have the whole thing memorized. :-) It just wasn't the first time I'd heard it. In boot camp, in '78, we had to name 3 battles from the Pacific Campaign, and I named 23 off the top of my head (as a 17 yr old). > GySgt Hartman: "Do any of you know where these individuals learned how to > shoot?" [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Thanks. BTW, were you Parris or SanDiego? (I assume Parris) Parris Island, and, IIRC, the Series is a "Training Series", 4 platoons assigned to a training company/ battalion. It's different from the Fleet Marine Force companies and battalions, because training platoons are always in some process of forming and disbanding. Also as IIRC, a rule of thumb, everyone east of the Mississippi goes to Parris Island, and west of, to Diego. IIRC, we get all the chicks, and they get all the reservists, but it's been 30 years. > ____________________________________________ > Regards, > > Arnold > Parris Island, and, IIRC, the Series is a "Training Series", 4 platoons >assigned to a training company/ battalion. > It's different from the Fleet Marine Force companies and battalions, >because training platoons are always in some process of forming and >disbanding. Ah, Thanks. > Also as IIRC, a rule of thumb, everyone east of the Mississippi goes to >Parris Island, and west of, to Diego. Yes, all females and all males east of the Mississippi (except Chicago area, which goes Diego). I use to work for a small firm in the Chicago suburbs and my boss said he was a "Hollywood Marine." Although I wonder how Gomer Pyle got sent to Diego instead of Parris (That's show biz for ya). BTW, I saw recently where Gomer received an honorary promotion to Lance Cpl. Jim Nabors accepted for him. > IIRC, we get all the chicks, and they get all the reservists, but it's >been 30 years. Back in 2001-2002, the Discovery Channel did two excellent documentaries on the Parris MCRD, following a complete series from the night they arrived at Receiving (midnight) to graduation day. As it so happens, it was the series being trained during 9-11. I have them in MPEG format. If you ever get to the northern NJ area......... ____________________________________________ Regards, Arnold > Parris Island, and, IIRC, the Series is a "Training Series", 4 platoons > assigned to a training company/ battalion. Affirmative. If memory serves. 4 platoons to a series, 4 series to a company, 4 companies to a Recruit Training Regiment, 4 RTR's to a Battalion, up to 5 Battalions to a Division. Remember the 1st, 2nd and 3rd battalion bars for pullups and pushups? All this may have changed, as many of the unit and division structure has changed significantly since we were in. > It's different from the Fleet Marine Force companies and battalions, > because training platoons are always in some process of forming and > disbanding. And with much higher loss rates... > Also as IIRC, a rule of thumb, everyone east of the Mississippi goes to > Parris Island, and west of, to Diego. Used to be that way, but they changed that back in '77 or '78, as I was in basic in Dego with guys from New York and Detroit that had never seen a cow before. We were on the bus to Pendleton from Dego and guys were asking "What the f.ck is that?" "A cow." "Man, them f.ckers are *big*!" "No sh.t, dumbass, you think they get gallons of milk from mice?" <fistfight> > IIRC, we get all the chicks, and they get all the reservists, but it's > been 30 years. Reservists were last to chow, first to the swab, head duty and skullery, and offered to go full time at every turn. Scott napisal(a): > > Parris Island, and, IIRC, the Series is a "Training Series", 4 platoons > > assigned to a training company/ battalion. > > Affirmative. If memory serves. Scotty, it looks that memory doesn't serve you well. > 4 platoons to a series, 4 series to a company, 4 companies to a Recruit > Training Regiment, 4 RTR's to a Battalion, up to 5 Battalions to a Division. regiment is higher echelon than battalion. Where did you invent four marine corps recruit training regiments? Oh maybe you heve never been in the millitary? > Remember the 1st, 2nd and 3rd battalion bars for pullups and pushups? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > And with much higher loss rates... comparing to what? Iraq? > > Also as IIRC, a rule of thumb, everyone east of the Mississippi goes to > > Parris Island, and west of, to Diego. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > <fistfight> Does it mean that the Marines accepted idiots at the time? It would explain a lot. > > IIRC, we get all the chicks, and they get all the reservists, but it's > > been 30 years. > > Reservists were last to chow, first to the swab, head duty and skullery, and > offered to go full time at every turn. Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick napisal(a): > > On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:39:00 -0500, "Douglas W \"Popeye\" Frederick" > > <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > My rifle scores were significantly higher than Whitman or Oswald. Really? At the range or killing real people? Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick napisal(a): > >>Had our 20th murder in Austin. A stomping. The two knew each other. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Another accomplished Marine Corps rifleman, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Your hero? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald Oswald left school after the ninth grade and never received a high school diploma. Throughout his life he had trouble with spelling and writing coherently.[10] His letters, diary and other writings have led some to suggest he was dyslexic.[11] Nonetheless he read voraciously and as a result sometimes asserted he was better educated than those around him. Around the age of fifteen, he became an ardent Marxist solely from reading about the topic. He wrote in his diary, "I was looking for a key to my environment, and then I discovered socialist literature. I had to dig for my books in the back dusty shelves of libraries."[12] Even as a Marxist, Oswald wished to join the US Marines. He idolized his older brother Robert and wore Robert's US Marine ring. This relationship seems to have transcended any ideological conflict for Oswald, and enlisting in the Marines may have also been a way to escape from his overbearing mother.[13] He enlisted in the USMC in October 1956, a week after his 17th birthday.[14] > -- > > Popeye > You can get much further with a kind word and a gun > than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone > www.finalprotectivefire.com
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