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Back to the BC - Or, How I learned to stop worrying about trim and came to love the Poodle Jacket

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Alan Street - 29 Nov 2006 08:38 GMT
Or not :-)

I've been spending some time in Asia, but didn't expect to have time to
dive. As luck would have it, Fearless Leader (tm) decided to tour SE
Asia, making it impossible to get hotel rooms in Singapore for the week
of November 13th. Since I was supposed to fly back to S'pore that week
and couldn't find a place to stay, I figured I'd take a small detour
and visit Phuket once again.

The diving was as I remembered it - warm, easy, with so-so visibility
(20~30ft). A school of lionfish, several morays and a seriously big sea
snake were all on display, and I happily remembered how much I enjoyed
diving in this part of the world. What wasn't the same this time was
the gear - I had to rent everything, including a "regular" jacket style
BC. I hadn't used one of these in ~200 dives and had forgotten what
it's like to dive with one. Wow. I hadn't realized just how badly out
of trim you could be with one of these, and how hard it is to get all
the air out of them. I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no
weight and no air cell, but it was still quite an eye opener to dive
with one of these again. Next trip (late January), my own gear comes
with me.

Alan
Lee Bell - 29 Nov 2006 11:10 GMT
> I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no weight and no air cell. . .

Mike has very good trim and buoyancy control, but I'm the one that dives
with no weights and no gas in the wing . . . no matter how many times Bob
says it's not possible.  I think Mike respects my diving, but I doubt he
considers it "ideal."

Lee
Alan Street - 29 Nov 2006 13:13 GMT
> > I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no weight and no air cell. . .
>
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>
> Lee

I stand corrected. All the more reason for me to make it out there and
dive with you guys.

Alan
mike gray - 29 Nov 2006 13:54 GMT
>>>I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no weight and no air cell. . .
>>
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>
> Alan

Too late, the water's getting too damned cold.
RSimms - 29 Nov 2006 14:18 GMT
>>>>I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no weight and no air cell. . .
>>>
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>>
>Too late, the water's getting too damned cold.

I'll drop the dry suit at Lee's and you'll be good to go!

Rick Simms
Magilla - 30 Nov 2006 03:40 GMT
> I stand corrected. All the more reason for me to make it out there and
> dive with you guys.

   We're gonna send a big trucking Marine on a retrieval mission to drag
you to South Florida.
Lee Bell - 30 Nov 2006 04:06 GMT
>> I stand corrected. All the more reason for me to make it out there and
>> dive with you guys.
>
>    We're gonna send a big trucking Marine on a retrieval mission to drag
> you to South Florida.

To do us any good, we have to get the trucking Marine to actually come back
to Florida, well, our part of Florida.

Lee
Magilla - 30 Nov 2006 04:10 GMT
>>    We're gonna send a big trucking Marine on a retrieval mission to drag
>> you to South Florida.
>
> To do us any good, we have to get the trucking Marine to actually come
> back to Florida, well, our part of Florida.

   That's a fact.......
Grumman-581 - 30 Nov 2006 05:11 GMT
> To do us any good, we have to get the trucking Marine to actually come
> back to Florida, well, our part of Florida.

He hasn't figured out that there is something other than I-10 in Florida?
Lee Bell - 30 Nov 2006 12:23 GMT
>> To do us any good, we have to get the trucking Marine to actually come
>> back to Florida, well, our part of Florida.
>
> He hasn't figured out that there is something other than I-10 in Florida?

He knows, but a trip to S. Florida is a 300 mile ride in both directions.
There are longer/wider states, but few, if any, that force you to drive that
far and leave you with no option but to turn around and retrace your path.

On the few occasions when Doug gets down this way for work, he's usually on
a tight schedule requiring him to haul something back again.

Guess that's just the price I pay for living in paradise.

Lee
Scott - 30 Nov 2006 12:57 GMT
> Guess that's just the price I pay for living in paradise.

News flash;

Ft. Lauderdale isn't paradise.

You cant even see paradise from there.
Lee Bell - 30 Nov 2006 13:43 GMT
>> Guess that's just the price I pay for living in paradise.

> News flash;
> Ft. Lauderdale isn't paradise.
> You cant even see paradise from there.

News flash.

I live in Davie.  Davie is paradise.

Ft. Lauderdale is where we keep all the tourists.
mike gray - 30 Nov 2006 14:28 GMT
>>>Guess that's just the price I pay for living in paradise.
>
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>
> I live in Davie.  Davie is paradise.

Davie is redneck country.
Lee Bell - 02 Dec 2006 02:28 GMT
>> I live in Davie.  Davie is paradise.

> Davie is redneck country.

Yes.  Like I said, paradise.
mike gray - 30 Nov 2006 14:27 GMT
>>Guess that's just the price I pay for living in paradise.
>
> News flash;
>
> Ft. Lauderdale isn't paradise.

But Boca is.
mike gray - 29 Nov 2006 13:53 GMT
>>I'm a long ways from Mike Gray's ideal of no weight and no air cell. . .
>
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>
> Lee

Awww, ya do alright for an old guy.
Lee Bell - 29 Nov 2006 15:38 GMT
> Awww, ya do alright for an old guy.

Look who's talking.
mike gray - 29 Nov 2006 13:52 GMT
(snip)

 I had to rent everything, including a "regular" jacket style
> BC. I hadn't used one of these in ~200 dives and had forgotten what
> it's like to dive with one. Wow. I hadn't realized just how badly out
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> with one of these again. Next trip (late January), my own gear comes
> with me.

Sounds like some great dives.

Hanging in my closet is a nearly mint condition 1985ish SeaTec Manta,
probably the best jacket style BC ever made (aside from the crappy tank
band buckles).

I think I may get it out and dive it, just to remind myself how right
you are.

m

p.s. Anyone want to buy a nearly mint SeaTec Manta?
Scott - 29 Nov 2006 16:35 GMT
> Hanging in my closet is a nearly mint condition 1985ish SeaTec Manta,
> probably the best jacket style BC ever made (aside from the crappy tank
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>
> p.s. Anyone want to buy a nearly mint SeaTec Manta?

No thanks, I have an ATPAC and a Fenzy.
mike gray - 29 Nov 2006 19:11 GMT
>>Hanging in my closet is a nearly mint condition 1985ish SeaTec Manta,
>>probably the best jacket style BC ever made (aside from the crappy tank
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>
> No thanks, I have an ATPAC and a Fenzy.

Trade?
Scott - 29 Nov 2006 19:14 GMT
> > No thanks, I have an ATPAC and a Fenzy.

> Trade?

No chance, we keep them hanging around so that people ask.

The Fenzy still works (but the bottle is out of hydro).
-hh - 30 Nov 2006 12:42 GMT
> p.s. Anyone want to buy a nearly mint SeaTec Manta?

How close is it to a similar vintage TUSA Liberator?

-hh
mike gray - 30 Nov 2006 14:27 GMT
>>p.s. Anyone want to buy a nearly mint SeaTec Manta?
>
> How close is it to a similar vintage TUSA Liberator?

The Seatec was prettier but the TUSA had better tank band buckles, if my
failing memory serves me right.

m
 
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