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Red Snapper limit
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GWB - 05 Nov 2006 20:10 GMT There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper limits. We need more signatures than the eco-freaks or we will lose our 4 fish per day red snapper limit. This catch reduction won't even slow down the commercial fishermen.
If your name isn't on that petition, don't complain when you go out into the gulf and can only catch 1 or 2 red snappers per day.
Not only does everyone need to sign it but you need to get as many people as you can to sign it.
Here is the link, https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/794820007
Below is the letter from Bobbi Walker and below that is another letter from her when she was asked if the signatures would get used for what they appear to be intended for.
Dear All, In order to counter the thousands of signatures from environmental groups requesting the NMFS to drop the red snapper TAC to 5.8 million pounds we have created a petition site that supports the council's decision to delay by 4 months any further action on red snapper and supports the voluntary buyout of commercial quota that would be transferred to the recreational sector upon purchase. PLEASE go to the site below by clicking on it or visit Orange Beach Fishing Association's web site www.gulffishing.net/home.htm and sign the petition there. We encourage you to forward this email to as many people as possible so that we can obtain thousands of signatures. CLICK ON LINK BELOW TO TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO PETITION https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/794820007
dechucka - 06 Nov 2006 03:00 GMT > There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the > eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper > limits. How is the red snapper population going as a matter of interest?
I've got interest one way or the other
GWB - 06 Nov 2006 04:52 GMT >> There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the >> eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I've got interest one way or the other There are a lot of spearfishermen on this group. I think they might find this a "matter of interest."
I do!!
https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/794820007
dechucka - 06 Nov 2006 21:49 GMT >>> There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the >>> eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/794820007 fantastic but having no personal interest in the matter:- " How is the red snapper population going?"
ps I am a fisherman and a diver
GWB - 07 Nov 2006 00:26 GMT >>>> There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the >>>> eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >ps I am a fisherman and a diver It's being decimated by shrimp trawlers. They kill almost all of the baby snappers. They also aren't imposing these severe limits on commercial fishermen. They think they can save the resource by limiting sport fishermen to two fish per day. A lot of charter boats aren't gonna make it. People won't pay for a trip if they can only keep two red snapper. They need to wake up to the fact that by-catch is the real problem.
dechucka - 07 Nov 2006 00:29 GMT >>>>> There are around 1900 signatures on the petition so far, the >>>>> eco-freaks have sent over 10,000 signatures to reduce red snapper [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > keep two red snapper. They need to wake up to the fact that by-catch > is the real problem. It seems based on the facts you have given is that the way to go is to stop the prawn trawlers.
Scott - 07 Nov 2006 01:58 GMT > It's being decimated by shrimp trawlers. They kill almost all of the > baby snappers. They also aren't imposing these severe limits on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > keep two red snapper. They need to wake up to the fact that by-catch > is the real problem. I hate to be cruel, but welcome to the world.
No one cares, especially in area's where you can take a boat ride and see a reef covered with fish for you to spear.
If they arent into boat rides, SCUBA or spear fishing, you all are invisible.
They claim rape of the sea by you, you claim rape of the sea by them.
The sea continues to be raped.
Boil it down to gravy.
mike gray - 07 Nov 2006 02:29 GMT >>It's being decimated by shrimp trawlers. They kill almost all of the >>baby snappers. They also aren't imposing these severe limits on [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Boil it down to gravy. mike gray - 07 Nov 2006 02:37 GMT >>It's being decimated by shrimp trawlers. They kill almost all of the >>baby snappers. They also aren't imposing these severe limits on [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Boil it down to gravy. I hate to be cruel, but no one cares, even in areas where you can take a boat ride and see a reef covered with fish for you to spear.
Those into boat rides, SCUBA or spear fishing, are a real hotbed of apathy.
Scott - 07 Nov 2006 18:38 GMT > I hate to be cruel, but no one cares, even in areas where you > can take a boat ride and see a reef covered with fish for you to > spear.
> Those into boat rides, SCUBA or spear fishing, are a real hotbed > of apathy. I know.
The "summer residents" around here are killing the canal, and couldn't care less. 30 year old septics that are meant to service a family of 3 for three months during the summer, servicing 6 year round and 15 for three months. Next is to raise their property taxes to pay for mandatory yearly septic inspections. It will be worth it just to hear them bitch and whine when they get the house condemned for occupancy until they fix the septic.
a.sholes like one of our 3-month-a-year "neighbors", who is fond of washing his 1.5 ton Dodge Club Cab Dually 4 wheel drive Diesel on the hill by his "cabin", and letting the runoff go straight into the canal, while there is a good carwash that treats and recycles water 12 miles away.
The day I pointed out to him that there was a really cool, ecologically friendly cash wash 12 miles away, and that his soap and grease and diesel were running straight onto the beach and across into the canal, he said "So what? It wont hurt nothin'."
His "cabin" is right above the beach that was closed by the health folks for e-coli contamination. The sign making public notice of the closure is directly across the road, facing my back as he says this;
As in he was seeing the sign directly behind me, as he was chatting with me, and his soapy diesel water was running across the road and onto the rocks at the base of the sign.
I was kind of stunned for a minute as I considered that here is a guy who is obviously smart and successful enough to own and drive the biggest, gas guzzlingest, crew cab 4 wheel drive truck, and own a "cabin" (which is like 6 bedrooms and 2.5 stories with a garage big enough for his boat and truck) on Hood Canal, besides where he usually lives (Oregon plates), but is just as dumb as sh.t on a stick.
Couldn't be bothered to care less.
dechucka - 08 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT >> I hate to be cruel, but no one cares, even in areas where you >> can take a boat ride and see a reef covered with fish for you to [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Couldn't be bothered to care less. you f.cking watermelon greenie. It is everybody's right to poor sh.t into our oceans, wash our cars so all the phosphorous goes into the canal and kill all the red snapper. You're probably a democrat voter who doesn't believe in the right of every American to own a machine gun and walk the streets with a SAM in each pocket. Commie bastard and you're probably Moslem
Carl Nisarel - 08 Nov 2006 13:56 GMT rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> whined:
> Couldn't be bothered to care less. And all you did was whine at him.
Everyone knows you lack the balls to actually do something effective about it.
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Nunya - 10 Nov 2006 23:53 GMT > rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> whined: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Everyone knows you lack the balls to actually do something effective about > it. So, what did Scott do, f.ck your wife?
He owns you.
Carl Nisarel - 10 Nov 2006 23:45 GMT rec.scuba's resident pussy, Scotty hiding behind the nym of "Nunya" <not@home.com>:
> He owns you. No, Scotty, I own you.
You're now trying to hide behind a lame sockpuppet.
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Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 11 Nov 2006 00:15 GMT >> rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> whined: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > He owns you. While Scott does own Carl, no f.cking of Carl's wife was involved.
Scott is a confirmed heterosexual.
Carl Nisarel - 10 Nov 2006 23:35 GMT Go gcreime na péisteoga do cheann "Douglas W \"Fatboy\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com>:
> While Scott does run like a pussy, you like having him keep his nose up your a.s.
Someone has to be there to lick away the santorum.
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Scott - 11 Nov 2006 03:49 GMT > > So, what did Scott do, f.ck your wife? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Scott is a confirmed heterosexual. Oh let him run.
Every time Nisarel "attacks" me he illustrates his considreable cowardice and sickness.
His "Peace Arch" thing is just a f.cking sophomoric joke.
The guy is the absolute *butt* of every newsgroup he infects.
And, everyone knows, he posts and hides his true identity because he is the definition of coward.
I have Nunya and every permutation thereof in my killfile, but I notice this is from Whidbey...
I know a couple jarheads, a pilot and two EOD guys up there...
As far as standing on my porch and saying hi to my wife, I *invite* him to come do just that.
f.ck this clown, every moment wasted on him is a moment wasted on him.
Happy USMC Birthday Brother!
Carl Nisarel - 11 Nov 2006 12:02 GMT rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> whined:
> His "Peace Arch" thing demonstrated that I own you, pussy.
and "Nunya" is your sockpuppet. You tried to hide by going to a local public Internet access point.
Try coming up to Canada for a visit, pussy.
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Carl Nisarel - 12 Nov 2006 18:04 GMT rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com>:
> I have Nunya and every permutation thereof in my killfile, but I > notice this is from Whidbey... "Nunya" posted from your local Hood Canal library, pussy.
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janusz_w@hotmail.com - 11 Nov 2006 20:23 GMT Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick napisal(a):
> >> rec.scuba's resident pussy "Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> whined: > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Scott is a confirmed heterosexual. And you are confirmed LIAR.
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 12 Nov 2006 00:17 GMT <snip>
Did anyone hear a Jew-hating Canadian lap-dog?
Scott - 12 Nov 2006 00:42 GMT > <snip> > > Did anyone hear a Jew-hating Canadian lap-dog? No.
But, try this;
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13648
Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick - 12 Nov 2006 13:51 GMT >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13648 Typical.
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