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Scuba Forum / General / October 2006Explain about Sting Rays
So, they have that long tail and a barb on top at the base of the tail? So, if you step on the tail and break it, their reflex is to back up and drive it into your foot/leg? So, if you swim or move behind them, in whipping the tail, the barb can be driven up into someone? The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? > So, they have that long tail and a barb on top at the base of the tail? The barb is part way out the tail rather than at the base. > So, if you step on the tail and break it, their reflex is to back up and > drive it into your foot/leg? You don't step on the tail. If you step on the ray, he arches, bringing his tail up and forward, driving the barb into whatever is directly above him. It's a purely defensive act, but is not limited to when someone steps on him. That is, however, how most stingray injuries occur. Recommended procedure is to shuffule your feat when you walk across sand, grass beds or other places where stingrays are likely to be. > So, if you swim or move behind them, in whipping the tail, the barb can be > driven up into someone? Above them, not behind. > The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? Apparently so. That's what reportedly happened to Steve Irwin. It would take a big ray to do that. The barbs are proportionate to the size of the ray. Lee >>So, they have that long tail and a barb on top at the base of the tail? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You don't step on the tail. If you step on the ray, he arches, bringing his > tail up and forward, driving the barb into whatever is directly above him. Not limited to. They can hit pretty much sideways, too. >>So, if you swim or move behind them, in whipping the tail, the barb can be >>driven up into someone? > > Above them, not behind. And sideways. >>The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? > > Apparently so. That's what reportedly happened to Steve Irwin. It would > take a big ray to do that. The barbs are proportionate to the size of the > ray. Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from above and behind, his engaged barb will hit from below right through your abdomen, into the heart. Matthias > Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the > heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from above > and behind, his engaged barb will hit from below right through your > abdomen, into the heart. Yeah, I hate when that happens. Talk about heartburn. I passed a ray from the side once and he stuck his barb through one of my ears and out the other. I thought that was pretty cool. >>Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the >>heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from above [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I passed a ray from the side once and he stuck his barb through one of my > ears and out the other. I thought that was pretty cool. Did it help equalizing? Matthias >>>Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the >>>heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Did it help equalizing? What? >>>>Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the >>>>heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What? Is this question being asked before, or after the hit? Answers may differ... Matthias >>>>Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the >>>>heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What? That's very funny. >>>>Not necessarily penetrating the ribcage. Towards a hit from below, the >>>>heart is not protected by the ribcage. Like when you pass a ray from [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >What? DID IT HELP EQUALIZING?  Signaturedillon If you can't figure out how to unmunge my address, email me and I'll explain it. > >>> I passed a ray from the side once and he stuck his barb through one of my > >>> ears and out the other. I thought that was pretty cool. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > DID IT HELP EQUALIZING? He doesn't have to equalize anymore. > I passed a ray from the side once and he stuck his barb through one of my > ears and out the other. There's your trouble. (c: > So, they have that long tail and a barb on top at the base of the tail? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? It's obviously a PADI training issue. >> The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? > > It's obviously a PADI training issue. Could be. At least this time we've got evidence of something they failed to cover adequately. > >> The barb can penetrate the ribcage to get to the heart? > > > > It's obviously a PADI training issue. > > Could be. At least this time we've got evidence of something they failed to > cover adequately. The problem is that PADI defined 'CYA' as covering their a.s, not your Abdomen. ;-) -hh
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