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Scuba Forum / General / October 2006Dear John:
26 Bats short of a load? RCMP identify woman's DNA found on Pickton farm Last Updated: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 | 12:43 PM PT CBC News DNA evidence found on the Pickton farm in Port Coquiltlam has been linked to a woman from Victoria last seen alive in 1991, say the RCMP. Spokesman Corp. Pierre Lemaitre says police notified the family of Nancy Clark, who also went by the name Nancy Greek, about the positive identification on Tuesday. "Crown counsel will be getting a report in the near future in order to determine the next legal course of action," said Lemaitre. Clark was a 25-year-old sex-trade worker in Victoria when she went missing. Investigators with the Missing Women's Task Force are still examining evidence retrieved from the Pickton farm, but they are no longer working on the site. Robert William Pickton has been charged with 26 counts of first-degree murder involving women missing from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside. His first trial on six of those counts will start in January.  SignaturePopeye It was when Lucifer first congratulated himself upon his angelic behavior that he became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld www.finalprotectivefire.com > 26 Bats short of a load? > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > His first trial on six of those counts will start in January. It's not always apparent what you're trying to convey with the anecdotes you post but can I assume you are suggesting that all crack whores should be carrying handguns? Cam >> 26 Bats short of a load? >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > anecdotes you post but can I assume you are suggesting that all crack > whores should be carrying handguns? No, haven't you been paying attention? All crack whores should be carrying 14 yr olds. > > 26 Bats short of a load? > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Cam You should take awat the interpretaion that there are a lot of liars in teh media because these kinds of things don't happen in Canada. > > > 26 Bats short of a load? > > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > You should take awat the interpretaion that there are a lot of liars in teh media because these > kinds of things don't happen in Canada. Chris, No one has claimed that Canada is crime-free. Cam <Snip> > > You should take awat the interpretaion that there are a lot of liars in teh media because these > > kinds of things don't happen in Canada. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cam Having a hard time keeping up? I understand, things can get pretty confusing sometimes. I *know* that nobody has claimed that Canada is crime-free. It was claimed (or, at least insinuated) that crime in Canada is so rare that it's basically irrelevant and (I'm assuming here) Popeye is trying to show the person who made the claim/insinuation that there's probably more crime than he thought and that he needs to be aware that it's out there to be better prepared for it when (if) it hits. As far as my posted interpretation of what Popeye posted, look up the word facetious and get back to me. > <Snip> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I *know* that nobody has claimed that Canada is crime-free. If you know that why would you state that these things don't happen in Canada? > It was claimed (or, at least insinuated) that crime in Canada is so rare that it's basically > irrelevant and (I'm assuming here) Popeye is trying to show the person who made the > claim/insinuation that there's probably more crime than he thought and that he needs to be aware > that it's out there to be better prepared for it when (if) it hits. If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a nice change. Parading anecdotes as evidence of a trend is misleading. > As far as my posted interpretation of what Popeye posted, look up the word facetious and get back to > me. > If you know that why would you state that these things don't happen in > Canada? We're not the ones that do. Less than a week ago, Fuckin Francis claimed they didn't even happen in -Cleveland-. >> It was claimed (or, at least insinuated) that crime in Canada is so rare >> that it's basically [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a > nice change. We've done that too, ad nauseum. Try and keep up. >Parading anecdotes as evidence of a trend is misleading. Only if it's not evidence of a trend. >> As far as my posted interpretation of what Popeye posted, look up the >> word facetious and get back to >> me. > > If you know that why would you state that these things don't happen in > > Canada? > > We're not the ones that do. Popeye, You snipped the part where Chris made that exact claim. WTF? Cam >> > If you know that why would you state that these things don't happen in >> > Canada? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Popeye, > You snipped the part where Chris made that exact claim. WTF? Just following your leader, eh? Besides, we're we're talking, literally, -centuries- here, not minutes or hours. SignaturePopeye It was when Lucifer first congratulated himself upon his angelic behavior that he became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld www.finalprotectivefire.com > Less than a week ago, Fuckin Francis claimed they didn't even happen > in -Cleveland-. Apparently whatever happened was pretty much routine. That might explain why I didn't hear about it in the local news. > > If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data > > showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a > > nice change. > > We've done that too, ad nauseum. Ah - the operative word to describe your prattling. JF >> Less than a week ago, Fuckin Francis claimed they didn't even happen >> in -Cleveland-. > > Apparently whatever happened was pretty much routine. That would make it "normal" violence, eh? Dick. >That might explain why I didn't hear about it in the local news. Sure, we listed dozens of acts of profound violence that happened all around you that you didn't see, ergo they didn't "happen". And, probably, the people that it "didn't happen to" that weekend, it never happened to before, like Hotrod. SignaturePopeye It was when Lucifer first congratulated himself upon his angelic behavior that he became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld www.finalprotectivefire.com > If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data > showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a > nice change. Parading anecdotes as evidence of a trend is misleading. How about a comparison of the rate of increase as comapred to the gun control fiction you all embrace? >> If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data >> showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a >> nice change. Parading anecdotes as evidence of a trend is misleading. > > How about a comparison of the rate of increase as comapred to the gun > control fiction you all embrace? "The crime rate in 2002 was the lowest crime rate in twenty-five years with 7,590 reported incidents per 100,000 people." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada Also from that site: "One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in the United States are guns. Gun crimes are far more common in the United States. Only one third of Canadian murders involve firearms compared to two thirds in the States. Guns are more likely to be used in robberies in the United States. Gun ownership rates are significantly higher in the United States, especially handguns. Most Canadian weapons are rifles or shotguns owned by farmers, hunters and target shooters, and are less likely to be used in crimes. More types of weapons are banned or restricted in Canada than the United States. Canada also has a national gun registry. Even before the creation of the national gun registry, the two biggest provinces, Ontario and Quebec had a long history of strict gun controls." I love wikipedia. >>>If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data >>>showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I love wikipedia. They don't teach logic in attorney school? "One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in ^^^^^^^^^^^ the United States are guns" Explained by whom? Any real study or data to back it? Or is it just an opinion? Signature“TAANSTAFL” - Civilizations die from suicide, not murder Arnold Toynbee ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ "Look, I understand too little, too late. I realize there are things you say and do you can never take back. But what would you be if you didn't even try? You HAVE to try. So after a lot of thought, I'd like to reconsider. PLEASE. If it's not too late - Make it a CHEESE...burger." - Lyle Lovett, "Here I Am" > They don't teach logic in attorney school? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Or is it just an opinion? It's Wiki. You can go sign on and write whatever you like, fact, fiction or statistics. > You can go sign on and write whatever you like, fact, fiction or statistics. All this honesty in one night. Can we call you on this the next time one of your fellow gun nuts quotes wikipedia as a reliable source? JF > "One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > the United States are guns" Finally, a breakthrough. JF >>"One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in >> ^^^^^^^^^^^ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > JF For you? Nice snippage by the way. Signature“TAANSTAFL” - Civilizations die from suicide, not murder Arnold Toynbee ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ "Look, I understand too little, too late. I realize there are things you say and do you can never take back. But what would you be if you didn't even try? You HAVE to try. So after a lot of thought, I'd like to reconsider. PLEASE. If it's not too late - Make it a CHEESE...burger." - Lyle Lovett, "Here I Am" > JOF wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nice snippage by the way. "Quit clipping the stuff that's damaging to your argument. Makes it look like it has weaknesses. Mayhap it does?" -JOF > >>"One of the most common explanations of the higher violent crime rate in > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^ > >>the United States are guns" > > > > Finally, a breakthrough. > Nice snippage by the way. Mea culpa, but it was too good to pass up. Sorry. JF >>> If Popeye or anyone else wants to post camparitive per capita data >>> showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I love wikipedia. Me, too! But -not- as much as I. LOVE. STATCAN.!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://makeashorterlink.com/?S51F154FD "The overall crimerate dropped 5% in 2005. Decreases were seen in most crimes with the --->exception<--- of the: Serious crimes (is that like "abnormal violence"?) of homicide, attempted murder, assault with a weapon, aggravated assault and robbery." Following a 13% raise in 2004, Homicide rate increased by 4% in 2005. 2005 homicide rate highest since 1996 (BATTER UP!). Attempted murders up -->34<-- % since 2004 (Decaf!). > Me, too! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > 2005 homicide rate highest since 1996 (BATTER UP!). "It's out of the park! He took the hyde off that one!" > Attempted murders up -->34<-- % since 2004 (Decaf!). I wonder how many of those attempted murders were attempted with firearms. I guess that must be all the intellectually superior Canadians, unable to even pull off a simple murder, in spite of the help they get from the NRA. Waving shiny bangtoys just doesnt seem to work for them. We know they can swing a mean hakapik on baby seals though... > Following a 13% raise in 2004, Which is detailed in statcan's "Homicide in Canada, 2004" http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/85-002-XIE/0060585-002-XIE.pdf "As in previous years, most homicides reported in 2004 were committed by someone known to the victim. Among solved homicides, 50% were committed by an acquaintance, 35% by a family member and 15% by a stranger." Even the super-high 2005 homicide rate is only 2.0 per 100,000. 15% of that is 0.3 per 100,000. I'll takes my chances and roam around Canada unencumbered. Heck, I might not even wear underwear. >Heck, I might not even wear underwear. Put them on your head and your even safer. Notice everyone crossing to the other side of the street. > >Heck, I might not even wear underwear. > > Put them on your head and your even safer. Notice everyone crossing to the > other side of the street. Unless you were crossing the street with underwear over your head... >> Following a 13% raise in 2004, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > homicides, 50% were committed by an acquaintance, 35% by a family member > and 15% by a stranger." Is there a secret code point in there somewhere? The aquaintence/family member numbers are fairly common to -any- homicide statistics. > Even the super-high 2005 homicide rate is only 2.0 per 100,000. 15% of > that is 0.3 per 100,000. I'll takes my chances and roam around Canada > unencumbered. Heck, I might not even wear underwear. That was a nice Two-step for a city boy, but "going up" is english for "going up". SignaturePopeye It was when Lucifer first congratulated himself upon his angelic behavior that he became the tool of evil. -Hammarskjöld www.finalprotectivefire.com >> Following a 13% raise in 2004, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > homicides, 50% were committed by an acquaintance, 35% by a family member and > 15% by a stranger." Do you figure in Homicides by 'Someone known by the victim' in the stats you state, Greg? >>> Following a 13% raise in 2004, >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Do you figure in Homicides by 'Someone known by the victim' in the stats > you state, Greg? Huh? >><Snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > showing violent crimes, gun offences, or murder rates that would be a > nice change. Parading anecdotes as evidence of a trend is misleading. Not to the victims. >>As far as my posted interpretation of what Popeye posted, look up the word facetious and get back to >>me. Signature“TAANSTAFL” - Civilizations die from suicide, not murder Arnold Toynbee ____________________________________________________________________________ "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ____________________________________________________________________________ "Look, I understand too little, too late. I realize there are things you say and do you can never take back. But what would you be if you didn't even try? You HAVE to try. So after a lot of thought, I'd like to reconsider. PLEASE. If it's not too late - Make it a CHEESE...burger." - Lyle Lovett, "Here I Am" >><Snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If you know that why would you state that these things don't happen in > Canada? sh.t, Cam according to JOF it doesn't happen in Cleveland either >>It was claimed (or, at least insinuated) that crime in Canada is so rare that it's basically >>irrelevant and (I'm assuming here) Popeye is trying to show the person who made the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>As far as my posted interpretation of what Popeye posted, look up the word facetious and get back to >>me. > It was claimed (or, at least insinuated) that crime in Canada is so rare > that it's basically [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that he needs to be aware > that it's out there to be better prepared for it when (if) it hits. Since when do a few scattered anecdotes stand up to factual statistics? I can post isolated reports of PADI-trained people dying on scuba. I guess that would mean that PADI is an extremely dangerous training agency and anyone PADI-trained should stay out of the water, or, at the least, carry a SpareAir - the diver's equivalent to the handgun-for-protection, i.e. something expensive that's a pain in the a.s to carry, which won't be of much help when you really need it. in message news:1160657369.040762.312000@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > It's not always apparent what you're trying to convey with the > anecdotes you post but can I assume you are suggesting that all crack > whores should be carrying handguns? I can see why it's not apparent to you. You have a reading disability. I reread Popeye's post carefully and I didn't find the words "crack" or "whore" anywhere in them. I did see that one of the 26 women was identified as a "sex trade worker" in Victoria. I'm not sure what that means, but it has the ring of a legal profession. If they meant, crack whore, I assume they would have said crack whore. I didn't see anything describing the occupation of the other 25 women. Do you have information you're not sharing? Lee > in message news:1160657369.040762.312000@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Lee There was some of the required info in the parts you snipped. But you know that, don't you? Cam >> I can see why it's not apparent to you. You have a reading disability. >> I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> whore. I didn't see anything describing the occupation of the other 25 >> women. Do you have information you're not sharing? > There was some of the required info in the parts you snipped. But you > know that, don't you? If you say so. I went back and read your message and I can't find anything like what you're talking about. Here's the entire message, just so you don't have to look it up too. Feel free to point out the references to "crack whore" and the occupation of the other 25 women you claim is there. Lee -------------------------------------------------------------- Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick wrote: > 26 Bats short of a load? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > His first trial on six of those counts will start in January. It's not always apparent what you're trying to convey with the anecdotes you post but can I assume you are suggesting that all crack whores should be carrying handguns? Cam > >> I can see why it's not apparent to you. You have a reading disability. > >> I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Lee The reference you're looking for is the location, Vancouvers downtown eastside. It's a shithole. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/1.html Cam > -------------------------------------------------------------- > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Cam > The reference you're looking for is the location, Vancouvers downtown > eastside. It's a shithole. So that makes all 26 of them crack whores? >> >> I can see why it's not apparent to you. You have a reading >> >> disability. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Cam So, where is the part that you say that Lee snipped? >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >> Cam > >> >> I can see why it's not apparent to you. You have a reading > >> >> disability. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > So, where is the part that you say that Lee snipped? Lee snipped your post. Hope that helps. Cam > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >> > >> Cam >> So, where is the part that you say that Lee snipped? > > Lee snipped your post. Hope that helps. Nice to see Francis has a Kelly for his Astaire. > >> So, where is the part that you say that Lee snipped? > > > > Lee snipped your post. Hope that helps. > > Nice to see Francis has a Kelly for his Astaire. 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