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Scuba Forum / General / September 2006snorkel beginner, vomit feeling
hi, I've just started snorkeling and would like to eventually move on to scuba dive. My problem is after 15 or 20 minutes of snorkeling, I always start to develop a feeling of having to vomit. If I remove the snorkel and just breath normally (either thru mouth or nose), the vomit sensation is gone. is this normal for beginners or am I just more "prone" to something in my mouth than others? or could this be caused by anxiety in beginners? thanks t u jou...@yahoo.com wrote: > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > t u Most likely you are hyperventilating. Slow down, relax. Cam > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "prone" to something in my mouth than others? or could this be caused > by anxiety in beginners? thanks [NB: I am not an experienced diver, but I have been a beginner recently:) and so know all the beginner sensations are familiar and recent to me :)] Does this vomiting feeling happen at other times when you feel anxious? Probably the best thing to do is try a pool session with all the necessary equipment, with the reassurance of having an instructor their, and see how you feel. b >hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >t u Are you taking full breaths or breathing swallow through the snorkel? If breathing swallow, you may be experiencing CO2 buildup. You may not be clearing the snorkel during exhalation thus causing CO2 to accumulate in the snorkel as well has your airway. Next time breath deeply and see what happens. Nausea is a symptom of CO2 poisoning. SD >>hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > SD Yes. This is what I think I was doing when I started diving. We'd be doing shore dives which required reasonably long surface swims and would start out over-heated. (Gearing up in 80 degree air temps with 7mil full suit and hood was physically stressful for a newbie like myself, especially with the major scramble over the rocks.) Then, we'd have the swim and I would sometimes feel more stressed. I found that it didn't happen as much when I'd swim on my back (not using the snorkel) but with the snorkel, I'd feel more stressed and hyperventilating. I found that making deeper, more complete exhalations and inhalations helped. I think I was recycling my own air through the snorkel. >>>hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >I found that making deeper, more complete exhalations and inhalations >helped. I think I was recycling my own air through the snorkel. Yep. It's normal not trust the apparatus (snorkel, regulator) when folks first start diving or snorkeling. When I start new divers out, I begin very slowly. It's amazing what about five or ten minutes with mask on and face in the water; breathing through a snorkel or regulator will help establish ones comfort level. Relax, concentrate on breathing slowly and deeply. After all, breathing under water is abnormal. It looks so easy on TV. The "Wow", I can see under water excites folks and they forget all about proper breathing techniques. In our normal environment, breathing is usually never thought about. For me, when I dive, I've developed a technique where by, I inhale very deeply and slowly exhale; perhaps 10 seconds. Some folks have asked me if I breath at all. My exhaust does not form bursts, but rather a constan tstream of small bubbles . The human body only consumes a small amount of O2 when breathing. The rest is thrown away. SD > For me, when I dive, I've developed a technique where by, I inhale > very deeply and slowly exhale; perhaps 10 seconds. Some folks have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > SD I am a newbie. Technically, you are supposed to inhale slowly too, right ? As a swimmer I tend to inhale fast .. How do you modify this habit ? I don't have a problem exhaling slowly but I am very fast inhaling. > I am a newbie. Technically, you are supposed to inhale slowly too, right ? > As a swimmer I tend to inhale fast ..How do you > modify this habit ? I don't have a problem exhaling slowly but I am very > fast inhaling. If you're talking about snorkeling, don't worry about it. The activity itself will teach you. Each time you don't quite have all the water out of the snorkel and you breathe in fast, you'll get negative feedback in the form of coughing and choking on the water you inhale. If you're talking scuba, it's a bit different, and a bit harder to overcome a tendency to breathe quickly, either in or out. The trick is to breath more or less normally. As you learn to relax in the water, you will find it easier to breathe normally, just like you do on the surface. Lee >> For me, when I dive, I've developed a technique where by, I inhale >> very deeply and slowly exhale; perhaps 10 seconds. Some folks have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > How do you modify this habit ? > I don't have a problem exhaling slowly but I am very fast inhaling. I frequently make practice/training dives where I concentrate on learning, maintaining, or improving an individual skill. I seem to remember you're a new diver; apologize if I'm wrong, just concentrate on relaxed, normal breathing, like you were at home taking it easy. Do some yoga sh#t, easy in, easy out. Later, maybe, try counting while inhaling.1,2,3,4, out, 1,2,3,4 out, ect.  SignaturePopeye You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone www.finalprotectivefire.com > I frequently make practice/training dives where I concentrate on learning, > maintaining, or improving an individual skill. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -- Yes, scuba. I tend to inhale quickly like swimming. I guess the key is to relax which is more easy to say than to do. I even get bored with the yoga stuff. But I will try counting. It doesn'tsound a bad idea. Thank you guys. >> I frequently make practice/training dives where I concentrate on learning, >>maintaining, or improving an individual skill. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But I will try counting. It doesn'tsound a bad idea. > Thank you guys. >ou may throttle your throat voluntarily by at the glottis plane. Like when whispering "mmmmm". Matthias >> For me, when I dive, I've developed a technique where by, I inhale >> very deeply and slowly exhale; perhaps 10 seconds. Some folks have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >How do you modify this habit ? >I don't have a problem exhaling slowly but I am very fast inhaling. Stop thinking of it as swimming. Put you hands behind your back, under your tanks, for instance. Popeye has some good ideas. Try the counting trick. Signaturedillon If you can't figure out how to unmunge my address, email me and I'll explain it. >hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >t u Yes because basically snorkeling sucks Acid reflux? When you take the snorkel out of your mouth, I bet also you stop lying face-down in the water, so the reflux stops. I have that problem if I snorkel or dive too soon after eating a hevy meal. Becky > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > t u > I've just started snorkeling and would like to eventually move on to > scuba dive. My problem is after 15 or 20 minutes of snorkeling, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "prone" to something in my mouth than others? or could this be caused > by anxiety in beginners? thanks I have a strong gag reflex. Because of that, I have to be careful what kind of mouthpiece I use, whether it's on a snorkel or on a regulator. With a mouthpiece that does not extend far into my mouth, I don't usually have a problem. Some that have the thin flaps that go behind the teeth give me problems as do all of the ones that extend further into the mouth than normal. I've had no problem finding ones I can use. The combination of anxiety, thinking about something in your mouth and a strong gag reflex can be a tough combination to overcome, Each factor works to increase the effect of the others. If you're like me, as long as you have a regular old cheapo mouthpiece, you should be fine once the anxiety diminishes. Until that happens, find some really nice places to snorkel. Nothing takes your mind off your mouth like a colorful reef full of colorful fish, in warm clear salt water. Lee |
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