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jou128@yahoo.com - 29 Aug 2006 01:15 GMT
hi all,

1. I live in SoCal., can anyone recommand some dive class providers in
L.A. and orange county area.  pacificwilderness seems pretty good from
their web site.

2.  is it a better to get a one-piece full suit or a two-piece farmer
john.  I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

thanks.

m e
Grumman-581 - 29 Aug 2006 08:52 GMT
> I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

Damn, I think my gear weighs more than you...
Lee Bell - 29 Aug 2006 12:55 GMT
Grumman-581wrote

>> I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

> Damn, I think my gear weighs more than you...

I think it does too.  There's a lesson in there somewhere.

Lee
Grumman-581 - 29 Aug 2006 17:39 GMT
> I think it does too.  There's a lesson in there somewhere.

Perhaps I don't need the bottle opener while underwater?
Chris Guynn - 29 Aug 2006 20:54 GMT
> > I think it does too.  There's a lesson in there somewhere.
>
> Perhaps I don't need the bottle opener while underwater?

How else do you expect to open all of those salvaged wine (or whiskey) bottles?
Grumman-581 - 29 Aug 2006 21:10 GMT
207.118.213.18On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:54:24 GMT, "Chris Guynn"
<chris.guynn@gmail.com> wrote:
> How else do you expect to open all of those salvaged wine (or whiskey) bottles?

Oh, that would be via the corkscrew... You're not implying that I
should leave it on the boat also, right?
Chris Guynn - 29 Aug 2006 22:18 GMT
> 207.118.213.18On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:54:24 GMT, "Chris Guynn"
> <chris.guynn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How else do you expect to open all of those salvaged wine (or whiskey) bottles?
>
> Oh, that would be via the corkscrew... You're not implying that I
> should leave it on the boat also, right?

If you left it on the boat, you couldn't exactly enjoy it at the depth it was meant to be enjoyed
now, could you?
El Mecky - 01 Sep 2006 02:06 GMT
I always open my bottles (double 7 carbon) befóre I leave the boat!

>> > I think it does too.  There's a lesson in there somewhere.
>>
>> Perhaps I don't need the bottle opener while underwater?
>
> How else do you expect to open all of those salvaged wine (or whiskey)
> bottles?
Chris Guynn - 01 Sep 2006 14:43 GMT
> I always open my bottles (double 7 carbon) befóre I leave the boat!

Do you tend to salvage the bottles on land?
El Mecky - 01 Sep 2006 02:04 GMT
Grumman, take him on your back instead of weight and give him your octo!

Saves the guy a class!

Frank

>> I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.
>
> Damn, I think my gear weighs more than you...
Grumman-581 - 01 Sep 2006 16:37 GMT
> Grumman, take him on your back instead of weight and give him your octo!
>
> Saves the guy a class!

At 5'7" and 120 lbs, it's quite possible that the poster is a girl...
dechucka - 29 Aug 2006 08:59 GMT
> hi all,
>
> 1. I live in SoCal., can anyone recommand some dive class providers in
> L.A. and orange county area.  pacificwilderness seems pretty good from
> their web site.

any PADI store will do :-)

> 2.  is it a better to get a one-piece full suit or a two-piece farmer
> john.  I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

I prefer a 2 peice (5mm)  because I find it more flexible, it is OK for most
winter diving ( with hood if it is really cold for me ) I do and I can
discard the jacket in summer or if I travel north.
longshot - 29 Aug 2006 10:57 GMT
>> hi all,
>>
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> most winter diving ( with hood if it is really cold for me ) I do and I
> can discard the jacket in summer or if I travel north.
I thought it wasn't possible to only wear the lower part of a farmer john
cus your feet would float much better than your upper section
dechucka - 29 Aug 2006 22:58 GMT
>>> hi all,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I thought it wasn't possible to only wear the lower part of a farmer john
> cus your feet would float much better than your upper section

in what I call a Farmer John the bottom  piece comes up to chest with straps
over the shoulders and you normally wear a jacket over it. I have never had
any problems just wearing the under section
dechucka - 30 Aug 2006 03:17 GMT
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> straps over the shoulders and you normally wear a jacket over it. I have
> never had any problems just wearing the under section

here for a picture of what I mean
http://www.aquanaut.com.au/catalogue/scuba/category/product.php/1/1/7/269
HotRod - 29 Aug 2006 13:52 GMT
Since I just started this process myself I'd do a little shopping around for
a good training course.

1) How much class time?
2) How much pool time?
3) Can you borrow gear for the closed water sessions (Fins, mask snorkel)
until you can figure out what works best for you? Or try different types of
gear to see what works best, different fins and masks...
4) Are there any discounts for being a student of that location?

> hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> m e
Al Wells - 29 Aug 2006 15:39 GMT
> hi all,
>
> 1. I live in SoCal., can anyone recommand some dive class providers in
> L.A. and orange county area.  pacificwilderness seems pretty good from
> their web site.

Try to find out if the instructor really dives or is just an advanced
pool and pond diver. I've found that instructors who regularly dive for
real bring a little more to the class. Extra points if he regularly
dives with former students for fun.

> 2.  is it a better to get a one-piece full suit or a two-piece farmer
> john.  I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

In the water that you'll be diving in out there, I would use a drysuit,
but if you want to go wet, I would prefer a one piece semi-dry, like an
Atlan or Mares.
mike gray - 29 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT
> hi all,

I don't know SoCal, but:

> 1. I live in SoCal., can anyone recommand some dive class providers in
> L.A. and orange county area.  pacificwilderness seems pretty good from
> their web site.

The most important thing is the instructor. Ask around for
recommendations, then talk to the instructors recommended.

> 2.  is it a better to get a one-piece full suit or a two-piece farmer
> john.  I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.

For yer lessons, borrow or rent. Try both. You may find that
diving out there is dry suit diving.

Remember that the most important thing in a wetsuit is fit. A
crappy thin wetsuit that fits will keep you warmer than an
expensive thick suit that does not fit.

Good luck and have fun.
Greg Mossman - 29 Aug 2006 22:40 GMT
> I don't know SoCal, but:
>>
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> The most important thing is the instructor. Ask around for
> recommendations, then talk to the instructors recommended.

I do know SoCal.  The most important thing is proximity to the shop.
"L.A./Orange County" is a huge area.  Taking the 405 from the north end of
L.A. to the south end of Orange County is about a 4-hour drive with traffic.
I've heard plenty of complaints about Pacific Wilderness, but I don't know
anyone who's actually taken a class from them.

Regardless, they all teach the same thing: RSTC standards.  Learn the basics
from anyone who has a card (and insurance) that qualifies them to teach you
and don't buy anything other than mask/snorkel/fins/boots until you're
certified and somewhat experienced.  If you survive your certification
dives, as almost everyone does, you'll be overqualified to dive most
warm-water locales.

>> 2.  is it a better to get a one-piece full suit or a two-piece farmer
>> john.  I'm about 5' 7 and 120 lb.
>
> For yer lessons, borrow or rent. Try both. You may find that diving out
> there is dry suit diving.

Diving out here is drysuit diving.  But a rental wetsuit is fine for class
and will help convince you of the need for a drysuit.  Or, if you're
comfortable in the wetsuit, you'll know what sort of wetsuit you'll need.
No one requires that you buy a wetsuit before taking a class, or if they do,
find another instructor.
bob crownfield - 30 Aug 2006 02:15 GMT
> Diving out here is drysuit diving.  But a rental wetsuit is fine for class
> and will help convince you of the need for a drysuit.  Or, if you're
> comfortable in the wetsuit, you'll know what sort of wetsuit you'll need.
> No one requires that you buy a wetsuit before taking a class, or if they do,
> find another instructor.

www!

a wetsuit is very comfortable at catalina in april.
Lee Bell - 30 Aug 2006 03:35 GMT
>> Diving out here is drysuit diving.  But a rental wetsuit is fine for
>> class and will help convince you of the need for a drysuit.  Or, if
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> a wetsuit is very comfortable at catalina in april.

Ahhh, but is the person wearing it comfortable?

Lee
Greg Mossman - 30 Aug 2006 03:38 GMT
>> Diving out here is drysuit diving.  But a rental wetsuit is fine for
>> class and will help convince you of the need for a drysuit.  Or, if
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> a wetsuit is very comfortable at catalina in april.

Exactly.  And Eskimos find sleeping in igloos warmer than outside in a
blizzard.  But we're not all Eskimos.

Brrr.  I'm braving my 3mm in the Turks & Caicos in a few days.  I hope it
will be warm enough.
Joe English - 31 Aug 2006 07:35 GMT
>>>Diving out here is drysuit diving.  But a rental wetsuit is fine for
>>>class and will help convince you of the need for a drysuit.  Or, if
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Brrr.  I'm braving my 3mm in the Turks & Caicos in a few days.  I hope it
> will be warm enough.

I'll bet a hurricane is brewing!
 
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