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Lee Bell - 28 Aug 2006 13:59 GMT
So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
putting up the storm shutters.

I don't know if this hurricane is going to be a problem or not.  The latest
discussion includes the possibility that it will emerge from Cuba early
enough to allow it to develop into as much as a category 2.  Regardless, the
shutters are safer up than being stacked on the side of my patio, where even
a category 1 storm could turn them into deadly missiles.  The shutters, I
can do unassisted, whenever.  Other preparations require more than two
hands.

Lee
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bluNOboxSPAMthief - 28 Aug 2006 14:15 GMT
> So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
> putting up the storm shutters.
>
> I don't know if this hurricane is going to be a problem or not.  The latest
> discussion includes the possibility that it will emerge from Cuba early
> enough to allow it to develop into as much as a category 2.  Regardless, the

From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems that
it has been downgraded to "storm" grade weather, which I am sure can still
cause enough damage, particularly if your shutters are sitting on the patio.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/115600.shtml?hwind120?large

If not Ernesto, which one?                    
bernard
Lee Bell - 28 Aug 2006 18:24 GMT
> From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems that
> it has been downgraded to "storm" grade weather, which I am sure can still
> cause enough damage, particularly if your shutters are sitting on the
> patio.

It's Ernesto.  It's only a tropical storm at the moment, but the discussion
includes the possibility that it will strengthen once it clears Cuba and may
increase to a category 1 or 2 before it gets here.  Normally, I don't do
anything for a tropical storm . . . provided I'm sure that's all it is.
Wilma was supposed to be a category 1 storm and some weather researchers
claim that's all it was.  If so, it was the biggest baddest category 1 we've
ever seen.  It tore the crap out of Browed County.

Lee
Limey - 28 Aug 2006 19:27 GMT
>> From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems
>> that
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> researchers claim that's all it was.  If so, it was the biggest baddest
> category 1 we've ever seen.  It tore the crap out of Browed County.

It was the worst I've seen by a stretch. I'm still missing windows and
convertible tops. We're better prepared this year than ever before. We
actually have a genny just for the two of us that always stay *on my floor*.

LD.
Grumman-581 - 28 Aug 2006 21:27 GMT
> It's Ernesto.  It's only a tropical storm at the moment, but the discussion
> includes the possibility that it will strengthen once it clears Cuba and may
> increase to a category 1 or 2 before it gets here.

The way that keep revising the track projections for Ernesto, you're
going to be on the clean side of it within one or two more
revisions... Right *now*, it is forcast to go pretty much directly
over the top of your house... A couple of days ago, it looked like it
was going to be hitting southern Texas... At this rate, the only
people who probably won't be able to avoid it is the Bahamas...
bluNOboxSPAMthief - 29 Aug 2006 00:49 GMT
>> From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems that
>> it has been downgraded to "storm" grade weather, which I am sure can still
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> increase to a category 1 or 2 before it gets here.  Normally, I don't do
> anything for a tropical storm . . . provided I'm sure that's all it is.

Well, for what its worth, I am interested in weather (onshore and offshore)
and normally track weather conditions. Since we are going to Guatemala and Belize
on this coming week, I have been interested in Central American weather for the
past month of so (ok, I may get the geographical references wrong, but I ain't
a local).

My hurricane "tracking" software (MegaTrack for Mac OS X) tells me the current
and predicted status of Ernesto. The below links are to screenshots of the current
to 5th predicted datapoint. So once you are not located north of Miami, you *should*
(legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, metreologist, or baptist preacher) be safe.

http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004096131196892142
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004034589126278278
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004099032177833102
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004030563724076658
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004074450476978073
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004074924953640063

This data comes directly from the US's NOAA Storm Prediction Centre.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/

Hope it's all blown out by the time it comes ashore.

bernard
dazed and confuzzed - 29 Aug 2006 01:24 GMT
>>>From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems that
>>>it has been downgraded to "storm" grade weather, which I am sure can still
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> bernard  

Funny, it most current plots predict it to go straight up the east coast
 of Florida.  Earlier today is was going up the center of Florida.

Probably a good thing that Lee is putting up storm shutters.

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Lee Bell - 29 Aug 2006 03:04 GMT
> So once you are not located north of Miami, you *should*
> (legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, metreologist, or baptist preacher)
> be safe.

I am located directly north of Miami.  I'm not particularly worried.  I'm
pretty much as ready as necessary.  I'll make decisions on what to do about
the boat, I have a 32 footer in the water, based on tomorrow's weather
reports.  At a minimum, I'll adjust lines.

Lee
David In NH - 29 Aug 2006 03:19 GMT
>> So once you are not located north of Miami, you *should*
>> (legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, metreologist, or baptist preacher)
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>
> Lee

Best of luck to all of you So-FL-ers. Hope nothing hits.
-hh - 29 Aug 2006 03:52 GMT
> I am located directly north of Miami.  I'm not particularly worried.  I'm
> pretty much as ready as necessary.  I'll make decisions on what to do about
> the boat, I have a 32 footer in the water, based on tomorrow's weather
> reports.  At a minimum, I'll adjust lines.

Be careful out there, along with the rest the Handsome Banana Gang :-)

-hh

PS:  things went well up here today.
bluNOboxSPAMthief - 29 Aug 2006 09:37 GMT
>> So once you are not located north of Miami, you *should*
>> (legal disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, metreologist, or baptist preacher)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the boat, I have a 32 footer in the water, based on tomorrow's weather
> reports.  At a minimum, I'll adjust lines.

I think thats probably the wisest, decide when you see it at your doorstep.
If its anything like Irish weather, it'll change by the time you turn off TV.

Megatrack is only as useful as its most recent update.

good luck anyway
Lee Bell - 29 Aug 2006 12:54 GMT
Bernard wrote:

> I think thats probably the wisest, decide when you see it at your
> doorstep.
> If its anything like Irish weather, it'll change by the time you turn off
> TV.

That really is the problem.  Hurricanes have a nasty habit of fooling
people.  Andrew, the worst hurricane ever to hit south Florida, was a
disorganized tropical storm up to about a day before it hit.  It went from
nothing, to at category 5 and turned directly toward Miami in no time at
all.  Until Andrew, even the most experienced Floridians, or perhaps
especially the most experienced Floridians, took hurricanes pretty casually.
Andrew changed all of that.  It blew down concrete block houses.  Most
impressive storm.

Last season, Wilma surprised us.  It came from the Gulf of Mexico as a
category 3 storm and crossed the state to hit Broward and Palm Beach
counties.  I was only expected to be a category 1 by the time it got here.
Crossing land almost always diminishes the power of hurricanes.  Wilma,
however, moved so fast that it was still a category 3 when it hit us.  It
did more property damage in this area than any hurricane since Andrew.
After the fact, some weather services reported that Wilma actually was only
a category 1.  They weren't saying that at the time, and anyone that went
through it doesn't believe a word of it.

Ernesto isn't expected to reach hurricane strength before it hits Florida
and, because it probably will hit in the upper Keys and move up the state,
will probably be even weaker by the time it gets here.  Key Largo is about
100 miles from Fort Lauderdale.  On the other hand, all of the most
populated areas in south Florida are on the east side of the storm, the side
that will have the strongest winds and higher rainfall.  Even if it's a
category 1 storm, it would not be a big deal except for one thing.  There
are still a lot of houses and apartment buildings that have not been able to
complete room repairs from last year.  Those people may have a problem.

Lee
Grumman-581 - 29 Aug 2006 18:13 GMT
> Those people may have a problem.

Think about the problem if this one was headed your way:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WEATHER/08/29/wake.island.evac.ap/index.html
Limey - 29 Aug 2006 04:57 GMT
>>> From what I have been following, it (if you mean storm ernesto) seems
>>> that
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> ain't
> a local).

Well, then you have more than one reason to keep an eye on this group.

> My hurricane "tracking" software (MegaTrack for Mac OS X) tells me the
> current
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Hope it's all blown out by the time it comes ashore.

Dump the software and read some aviation weather books for a start.

LD.
bluNOboxSPAMthief - 29 Aug 2006 09:35 GMT
> Dump the software and read some aviation weather books for a start.

I'm reading my way thru seafarer's met books first..

bernard
Limey - 29 Aug 2006 11:43 GMT
>> Dump the software and read some aviation weather books for a start.
>
> I'm reading my way thru seafarer's met books first..

yup, but seriously, I used to teach aviation stuff. If you get a basic book,
then just flip past all the different types of charts (that you really don't
need, or want to learn) there's really good, well laid out weather
information in them. Pilots basically need a more 'general' version of
weather knowledge than mariners, so you might like what you find. Then
again, mebbe not.  ;]

LD.
Dillon Pyron - 28 Aug 2006 22:43 GMT
Thus spake bluNOboxSPAMthief
<newsgroups-spambaiter@runningIHATEwithSPAMbulls.com> :

>> So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
>> putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>If not Ernesto, which one?                    
>bernard

There's 90 miles of warm water between Cuba and Key West
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Art Greenberg - 28 Aug 2006 18:23 GMT
>  So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
>  putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>  Lee

Good luck with this one, Lee. And everyone else in the storm's path ...

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JOF - 28 Aug 2006 19:04 GMT
> Good luck with this one, Lee. And everyone else in the storm's path ...

Same here. I sincerely hope all your work is in vain.

JF
Limey - 28 Aug 2006 19:27 GMT
>> Good luck with this one, Lee. And everyone else in the storm's path ...
>
> Same here. I sincerely hope all your work is in vain.

not me....  ;0)

LD.
Limey - 28 Aug 2006 19:10 GMT
> So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
> putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The shutters, I can do unassisted, whenever.  Other preparations require
> more than two hands.

I have two more. You have my number.

LD.
Nomen Nescio - 28 Aug 2006 20:50 GMT
> So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
> putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> can do unassisted, whenever.  Other preparations require more than two
> hands.

It is ongoing divine retribution for helping W steal the election.
Capt. Bill - 28 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT
>So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
>putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
>O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Looks like those of us on the West Coast are going to dodge another
one. Hope it dies out some before it gets to you.
RSimms - 29 Aug 2006 00:11 GMT
>So much for working today.  She who must be obeyed just gave the OK for
>putting up the storm shutters.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Lee

I do hope that you were able to get those other containers for the gas
and get them filled recently.

Rick Simms
Lee Bell - 29 Aug 2006 03:00 GMT
> I do hope that you were able to get those other containers for the gas
> and get them filled recently.

I have a bit over 100 gallons for the generator.  The tanks on the boat and
all four working cars are full.  Good thing, too.  Things have been crazy
all day.  It's been a while since we've seen lines like this at gas
stations, particularly before the hurricane hits.

Depending on weather reports tomorrow, I'll probably go over and double the
lines on the boat, take the canvas down and put anything that might blow
away, down below.  The expensive rods and electronics will come home.  I may
bring the collapsible 5 gallon water containers home as well.  It just
depends.

I still hope to spend Labor Day weekend on the boat in Biscayne bay, but
there are no guarantees.

Lee
Rick Simms - 30 Aug 2006 13:33 GMT
>> I do hope that you were able to get those other containers for the gas
>> and get them filled recently.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Lee

From all reports it appears that the Labor Day excursion is a go.

Rick Simms
Lee Bell - 30 Aug 2006 14:27 GMT
> From all reports it appears that the Labor Day excursion is a go.

Labor day does, in fact, look likely.  The government goes back to work at
noon.  I already have the shutters down and stored and the stuff that takes
two of us to move back in place.  There's a bunch of stuff that needs to go
back out on the patio, but it's all light stuff.

The boat is presently the biggest issue.  I need to take the instruments,
rods and reels, etc. back, put them away, put the canvas back up, the
icemaker and ice chest back on the deck and the carpets back on the deck
before I'm back to where I was before this somewhat over rated weather
scare.

Then we start worrying about food, liquor, etc.  It'll be a busy week.

Lee
Chris Guynn - 30 Aug 2006 21:24 GMT
> > From all reports it appears that the Labor Day excursion is a go.
>
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>
> Lee

I'll keep you in my prayers.  :-)
 
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