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Scuba Forum / General / August 2006Lee's Pet Got Out Again!
http://tinyurl.com/pswpl > http://tinyurl.com/pswpl Getting to be rather pesky. One turned up in Virginia in my neck of the woods the other day. Not in real good shape, but here none the less. http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/77783 > > http://tinyurl.com/pswpl > > http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/77783 Dang it, Lee! Don't you have a fence around that pond in back? http://tinyurl.com/hdcg9 -hh hh wrote > Dang it, Lee! Don't you have a fence around that pond in back? > http://tinyurl.com/hdcg9 Don't post things like this unless you're ready to have every waterway between Key West and Nova Scotia designated a no wake zone. Lee > http://tinyurl.com/pswpl That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are the exotic species. Lee > That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their > natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are the > exotic species. You mean "Damn Yankees". ;-) Curtis >> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are >> the exotic species. > > You mean "Damn Yankees". ;-) I was being politically correct. Lee >> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are >> the exotic species. > > You mean "Damn Yankees". ;-) Remember the difference. The yankees are the ones that went home. LD. >>> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >>> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >LD. I may have gone home but you can't refer to the clan as "Yankee's." All of my relatives fought with the Army of Northern Virginia under R.E. Lee. Rick Simms > I may have gone home but you can't refer to the clan as "Yankee's." > All of my relatives fought with the Army of Northern Virginia under > R.E. Lee. Northern? Lee >> I may have gone home but you can't refer to the clan as "Yankee's." >> All of my relatives fought with the Army of Northern Virginia under [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Lee I guess they wanted to distinguish it from the Army of Virginia which was a Union outfit under MG John Pope. It was eventually merged into the Army of the Potamac later in 1862. http://www.civilwarhome.com/armyofvirginia.htm Rick Simms >> I may have gone home but you can't refer to the clan as "Yankee's." >> All of my relatives fought with the Army of Northern Virginia under [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Lee Oh yeah, The Army of Northern Virginia name refers to its primary area of operations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_Northern_Virginia Two uncles and a dozen or so cousins in that generation served under Lee. Other relatives served in other CSA commands. Not one relative served under a "Yankee" commander. Not bad for a border state family. Rick Simms >>>> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >>>> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > All of my relatives fought with the Army of Northern Virginia under > R.E. Lee. Well, you're not my idea of either. You're close enough that you're an honorary. LD. >>>>> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >>>>> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that are [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >LD. Ah thank ya Suh and I hoist a pint to you and yours. BTW, I went to a local pub on Friday and the barkeep sid he could make a Black & Tan. He brought back a concoction made with Guiness & Harps.Didn't make the grade. Rick Simms >>>>>> That's not "getting out." Davie lakes and rivers are part of their >>>>>> natural habitat. It's the Yankees that had the gator removed that [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > a Black & Tan. He brought back a concoction made with Guiness & > Harps.Didn't make the grade. Yeah well. Did I tell you the story about me asking for a black and tan in the UK a few years ago? clue; I'd never had one until I was in the US and sorta came to enjoy them once in a while. It's a completely different mix of beers there. Not one I liked as much. When I was a kid, I think there were at least half a dozen different beer mixes with different names, a dozen more if you include cider/ beers. LD. >> http://tinyurl.com/pswpl > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lee Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a new pair of boots. > Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their > small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a > new pair of boots. Hopefully, they tan the hides first, otherwise those boots are gonna start stinking pretty quick... A stink a little foot powder is not exactly gonna fix... >>Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their >>small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > start stinking pretty quick... A stink a little foot powder is not > exactly gonna fix... Do manatee recipes work on Gators? > Do manatee recipes work on Gators? When in doubt, BBQ it... Now, if you were from East Texas, it would be, "When in doubt, deep fry it"... >>>Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their >>>small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Do manatee recipes work on Gators? Nope. Manatees don't cook. Rick Simms >> Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when >> their [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > start stinking pretty quick... A stink a little foot powder is not > exactly gonna fix... Of course. But I forgot the "gator tail for dinner" part. > > Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their > > small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > start stinking pretty quick... A stink a little foot powder is not > exactly gonna fix... Isn't that why they made "sink the stink"? > Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their > small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a > new pair of boots. I don't know what the guys down here do with the hides. I suspect they dispose of them somewhere in the Glades. The state takes legally caught gators, sells the hides and returns the meat. They don't make it easy to use the hides of illegally obtained ones. That doesn't make the meat any less tasty. Lee >>Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when their >>small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, and got a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lee I thought it tasted a like lot bald eagle > I thought it tasted a like lot bald eagle Nawh, bald eagle tastes like spotted owl... >>I thought it tasted a like lot bald eagle > > Nawh, bald eagle tastes like spotted owl... never had the spotted owl YET >> I don't know what the guys down here do with the hides. I suspect they >> dispose of them somewhere in the Glades. The state takes legally caught [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Lee > I thought it tasted a like lot bald eagle More like a cross between a Manatee and a Florida Panther. Lee >>>I don't know what the guys down here do with the hides. I suspect they >>>dispose of them somewhere in the Glades. The state takes legally caught [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Lee I'll have to try that - smoked or deep fried? >> Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when >> their small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gators, sells the hides and returns the meat. They don't make it easy to > use the hides of illegally obtained ones. They can have the hide tanned if they have the legal CITES tag on them from what I can tell, but it's a lengthy process to tan them and god awful expensive. But when a wallet costs $400, a ten foot gator can make a bunch of wallets; boots are about $500 and up. FWIW, the season opened Tuesday, and runs through November? on public property. They will take somewhere close to 9000 legally. Its estimated that there are about one million in Florida. I think they let the protection go a bit to far, and have a ways to go to reduce the population, seeing how we are their only predator.....next to the Florida Panther, and when was the last time you saw one of them? > That doesn't make the meat any less tasty. Tastes like chicken. At least that's what I thought. > Lee > Its estimated that there are about one million in > Florida. I think they let the protection go a bit > to far, and have a ways to go to reduce th > e population, seeing how we are their only > predator Maybe they're wanting them as a control for the Damn Yankees that retire down there... Let's see... You have a million gators... How many Yankee retirees are down there? What is the replinishment rate of the Yankees... Can the gators keep up? >> Its estimated that there are about one million in >> Florida. I think they let the protection go a bit >> to far, and have a ways to go to reduce th >> e population, seeing how we are their only >> predator > Maybe they're wanting them as a control for the Damn Yankees that > retire down there... Let's see... You have a million gators... How > many Yankee retirees are down there? What is the replinishment rate > of the Yankees... Can the gators keep up? Apparently not. It's probably because some other Yankees, Damned Yankees indeed, have made the more interesting "swimming" holes in the Everglades off limits to everyone. Lee > I think they let the protection go a bit to far, and have a ways to go to > reduce the population, seeing how we are their only predator... We re their only predator once they're more than about a foot long. Birds sometimes eat the small ones. > ..next to the Florida Panther, and when was the last time you saw one of > them? I've only seen a Florida Panther twice, but I see their tracks fairly often. Their having a bit of a problem with one of them in residential areas near Loop Road. The panther's grew up there and, while those of us that frequent that area knew he was there, he was never a problem until homes were built along the road. People are losing pets. >> That doesn't make the meat any less tasty. > Tastes like chicken. > At least that's what I thought. The gator tail I've had sometimes tasted a bit like chicken, sometimes more like beef and sometimes had a fishy flavor. I suspect it has a lot to do with what they grew up eating. Most gator available in restaurants comes from gator farms, where I think they are raised on chicken. It's not surprising that they taste like it. Lee > > I think they let the protection go a bit to far, and have a ways to go to > > reduce the population, seeing how we are their only predator... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > from gator farms, where I think they are raised on chicken. It's not > surprising that they taste like it. A lot of it has to do with how they're cooked also. > > The gator tail I've had sometimes tasted a bit like chicken, sometimes > more [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > A lot of it has to do with how they're cooked also. I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not eating lizard if I dont have to. > > > The gator tail I've had sometimes tasted a bit like chicken, sometimes > > more [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not eating > lizard if I dont have to. You're really missing out. I've had alligator before and it's actually pretty good. > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not eating > > lizard if I dont have to. > > You're really missing out. I've had alligator before and it's actually > pretty good. I have King Salmon and dungeness crab to worry about... > > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not eating > > > lizard if I dont have to. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I have King Salmon and dungeness crab to worry about... Yeah, but even they get old after a while. >> > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not >> > > eating [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yeah, but even they get old after a while. Hey! They have a Komodo Dragon infestation around Ft. Meyer's. I wonder................ > Hey! They have a Komodo Dragon infestation around Ft. Meyer's. I > wonder................ Komodo or Iguana? The Iguanas are running amuck around here. I'm thinking of looking up a recipe for them and publishing it. I can't think of a surer, or better, way to reduce their population than to convince someone that they're good to eat . . . and free. Lee >> Hey! They have a Komodo Dragon infestation around Ft. Meyer's. I >> wonder................ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of a surer, or better, way to reduce their population than to convince > someone that they're good to eat . . . and free. Guess they are Nile monitor lizards, not Komodo, but they said in this article they are hunted for food in Africa... http://www.sptimes.com/2003/09/26/Floridian/Enter_the_dragons.shtml Here's some recipes for iguana,......there are even a few for manatee. I guess if it moves, there's a way nto cook it. http://floridakeystreasures.com/keys-recipes/misc.shtml > Lee > > > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not eating > > > > lizard if I dont have to. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yeah, but even they get old after a while. I just put 60# of kings into the freezer and brine for smoking. I'll let you know when it gets old. >> > > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not >eating [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >I'll let you know when it gets old. What's the brine recipe you use? Here's one for you to try out.It works well on chicken/turkey and I've been told that it works well on fish. Hound's Citrus Brined Chicken Prepare the brine: 1 gallon water 1 cup Kosher salt or 1/2 cup table salt juice of 3 oranges juice of three limes juice of three lemons rinds from same 1 sliced white onion 1 head of garlic, crushed stems from a bunch of cilantro, chopped serranos to taste, minimum of 4 rough ground cumin and coriander 2 Tbsp each 1/4 cup chili powder or any ground chile you prefer (1/4 cup onion powder is optional) (1/4cup garlic powder is optional) Place the bird(s) and plenty of brine solution in a ziploc bag(s) and leave refrigerated overnight prior to cooking. A cooler works fine also. I use a 5 gal beverage cooler for all but the biggest turkeys. Frozen soda bottles, or ice can be used to keep the cold. {8 lbs of ice= 1 gallon of water} An hour before cooking take the bird out and thoroughly wash it down with cold water for at least 30 seconds. You can place aromatics like garlic heads, apples, citrus in the cavity of the bird for the cooking. I like also to place orange slices between skin and meat. Smoke rear end of chicken toward the fire for 45 minutes/lb @ 225°F until the thigh is about 170°F. You can rotate as necessary to avoid charring. Cooking this way will result in inedible skin, but juicy chicken. If you like the crispy skin then place the chicken near the firebox. This works for either chickens or turkeys. If you eliminate the brine (salt and water) the rest of the recipe makes an excellent marinade for grilled chicken. Rick Simms > >> > > > I dont care what it was raysed on or how it is cooked, I am not > >eating [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > What's the brine recipe you use? 4 cups dark brown sugar 1 cup raw sea salt (the rest is a closely guarded secret) You roll the cleaned, patted-dry salmon chunks in the mixture until it looks like a sugar cookie. Place them into gallon freezer bags, dump an extra 1/2 cup of the dry mix on top, seal the bags, get most of the air out, and put them in the vegetable drawer overnight. In the morning, the salmon will be swimming in brine made from the dry stuff, and the moisture pulled from the meat by the dry ingredients. The fish will almost feel rubbery, and will have taken a firmness. Rinse, dry, and then let it sit until the pellicle forms, then into the smoker with whatever you dig for smoke. For myself, I mix more ginger with real maple syrup and more cayenne and brush the chunks with that before it goes in. I like alder, cherry or apple for the smoke, equally, but never use mesquite. >> What's the brine recipe you use? > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >I like alder, cherry or apple for the smoke, equally, but never use >mesquite. Damn, that sounds good. Problem here is getting the Alder wood to do a proper smoke on Salmon. Cherry and Apple work well enough but Alder just seems to bring out a better taste in salmon. Rick Simms >> The gator tail I've had sometimes tasted a bit like chicken, sometimes >more [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >A lot of it has to do with how they're cooked also. Deep fried in Emge's Lard is tasty. Rick Simms >>> Yeah. When the "god o'l boys" around here get a little excited when >>> their small children and dogs go missing, they just shoot'em, skin'em, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Tastes like chicken. >At least that's what I thought. Interesting tidbit. Slow twitch muscles (breast meat) are white. Fast twitch muscles (legs & wings) are dark. Gators are mostly slow twitch, although I've seen them stand up and sprint, that's still slow twitch. If you want to see something awsome, got to Oz and check out a 20 foot saltwater croc. Gives me a good reason to avoid northern Australian waters. >> Lee >  Signaturedillon How much power does it take to run a server farm? A googlewatt. > If you want to see something awsome, got to Oz and check out a 20 foot > saltwater croc. Gives me a good reason to avoid northern Australian > waters. Florida has saltwater crocs too. Lee > > If you want to see something awsome, got to Oz and check out a 20 foot > > saltwater croc. Gives me a good reason to avoid northern Australian > > waters. > > Florida has saltwater crocs too. Think they'll be interested in some freshwater crocs from the Katuma River? close-up <http://tinyurl.com/qbkh9> full frame <http://tinyurl.com/sxauf> YMMV on what precisely chased them out of the water... <http://tinyurl.com/llk7e> -hh |
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